Dualtron City build update 20220731

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EV Components Review (De-bodgery)

EV Components Review (De-bodgery)

2 жыл бұрын

Latest in my build/upgrade series on my Dualtron City project.
I have a controller and motor running on the scooter now!
All the lighting issues are resolved. Sealing up the deck area is effectively doneh. All the wiring is in place. Both throttles work. I'm predicting that next weekend it will be fully running and ready for a test ride.

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@frendikdjojo2869
@frendikdjojo2869 Жыл бұрын
I had dualtron city but I did not know the position of the speed sensor .Could you inform me ? Thanks
@de-bodgery
@de-bodgery Жыл бұрын
There isn't one. Speed measurement is based on motor RPM.
@frendikdjojo2869
@frendikdjojo2869 Жыл бұрын
No wonder I could not fine.thanks for your replay.
@Evicted170
@Evicted170 2 жыл бұрын
How much $ do you have in it so far? Minus the stock City. Badass regardless!!!
@de-bodgery
@de-bodgery 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how to answer that. I bought a mini lathe so I could machine parts as needed. I then bought or made a couple of add-ons for it so I could do the motor venting work. Is that part of the "cost"? If so, that's stuff added about $3000 to the City. I used Panasonic 18650B cells that I bought in 2019. I believe I paid $3.40 per cell or $925 for the cells in the scooter. Controllers were $100 each. Davega LCD, $120. Other stuff...screws, connectors, wire, nickel, bms, LEDs, etc...another $200 to $250.
@BOOSTEDLASER
@BOOSTEDLASER 2 жыл бұрын
@@de-bodgery BRIEFLY :THIS IS NEW AND"THE BEST" WHY MESS WITH IT SO MUCH?
@de-bodgery
@de-bodgery 2 жыл бұрын
@@BOOSTEDLASER You really ought to consider writing with UPPER and lower case letters instead of ALL IN CAPS. Perhaps you don't know about the CAPS lock key being on? Anyway, just a thought... *** I never said the City was "the best". It is newly released this year...so that at least is accurate. Your questions have been answered in my first 2 videos I ever made on the City. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ir-ph85zrdm2eac.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bZ1mnqR0182Wm30.html
@carstoniu
@carstoniu 2 жыл бұрын
@@de-bodgery just for fun may i ask? mine broke before i started upgrading lol urs had 40miles or something like that you said haha why didnt you get a weped. could have gotten the 40,000watt cyberscoot. my buddy has one and it make my FF look like a baby lol once you go over 100kmh you cant go back imo ps.gotta get ur hands on one.. im so closing on pulling the trigger on number 2 lol
@de-bodgery
@de-bodgery 2 жыл бұрын
@@carstoniu I didn't upgrade becasue something went wrong. I bought it knowing I'd upgrade it. I generally have low expectations of most EV's. The City was not impressive and I did 2 videos about that. I bet if I did get a cyberscoot, I'd be looking to upgrade/mod it too! I'm sure there are things about it that I'd want to improve. *** There are 2 mindsets about EV's. I buy stuff for the platform so I can build what I want out of it. The other mindset is to buy something and use it as is. That second mindset is simply not me. There's no creativity in it, no challenge, nothing more than laying down a credit card and riding away on a scooter. This is a lot like bragging about having a fast Tesla. Well great, what exactly did you do? Oh right...made car payments. The guy with a conversion project that he built in his garage, he has something to brag about! He did the work and built something that didn't exist before. I'm that second kind of person. Hence the massive rework of my Dualtron City.
@carstoniu
@carstoniu 2 жыл бұрын
can u do a vid of the set up on vesc tool.. im doing the same thiing but on a spider but i cant get the motors to spin with any load .. they just make sounds (alot)and jerks forward and back.. the FOc setup works and i set the flux linkage etc.. rear motor can spin with no load front nothing.. lol ill give u my ## if ur willing to help out a homie lmk
@carstoniu
@carstoniu 2 жыл бұрын
ive spent the past two nights try to get it to run changing setting etc but only got the back under no load and im almost at the point to just spend the money and get another weped(thats wht im trying to make it like) its my gfs and im sick of changing the stock controllers (had 3 now in 2yrs) noway you are in canada are you? im literally doing everything the same as you but i didnt make my batt lol samsung makes tesla ones so they are good enough imo if you need to wait till urs is done to help me i understand but we are at similar stages. ps are any of ur lights on the vesc or all seperate now? dualtron specs are like non existance and they dont even get back to there dealers.. fun scooter till its just a eye sore (while down, due to minimotors trying to make every dime possible) the difference when you open the deck on a dualtron and a weped is crazy. dualtron looks like a 5yr wired it lol
@de-bodgery
@de-bodgery 2 жыл бұрын
That's quite doable. I haven't done one yet, but it's on the list...just do a full walk through of VESCtool in several videos.
@carstoniu
@carstoniu 2 жыл бұрын
@@de-bodgery id be very grateful since im using a 75100 also. i cant find any of the dualtron motor specs witch is making it very hard i can get it spining at 5amps (going to 160kph) but as soon as u put load on it. it doesnt move// when i put more amps to it the motor just makes sounds and twitches do u know how many poles ur motor is? i have a fully custom spider lmt so i know how u feel and feel the same. i like to make my things unique and one off too or if u could send me ur setup for UUID id be head over heals lol
@de-bodgery
@de-bodgery Жыл бұрын
@@carstoniu you will never find Dualtron motor specs anywhere. They don't publish this info and best you will get is the wattage specs for the scooter from them! My City hub motors are 15 pole pairs. No idea if that is true for other motors from Dualtron. They don't make the motors, just buy them from some other source. Your motor issue sounds like a setup problem, but what exactly, that I can't say. *** It's much too late now, but it would have made for a good video back when I had my City motors taken apart to record everything about them in a video. I'd have to take apart far too much stuff to do it now.
@carstoniu
@carstoniu Жыл бұрын
@@de-bodgery to count the poles you count the mag strips on the outside correct? mine has 20 so 40 poles.. and i didnt mean your wiriing setup as much as your config in vesc tool im so close.. the wheel spins at 5amp the speedo says its doing 160, but as soon as loas is applied it stops.. any suggestions? if i increase the current the motor just shakes and makes horrible sounds is there a way i can send u a pic?
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