The heretic Vasel has referred to our sacred desert mouse, the Muad'Dib from which our god-emperor and messiah took his name, as a rabbit. Holy war will be declared on the children of the Florida chapterhouse.

Joey's foot on Chris's knee is driving me crazy.

I am so lucky that I started looking into Dune Imperium just after they released uprising. Bought the game and my wife and I have played it twice. We’ve won 1 game each. It’s a fantastic game and we don’t have any games like it. Apart from the obvious stuff(theme, worker placement) the thing that made me look into it was the small amount of victory points needed to win. Each point feels really important and well earned. Most of my games require a score of above 50 to win so this is a nice change. Great video guys

Wish they just made a double sided board. Then I could still fit everything in the upgraded box lol

We need a follow up video with frankestein setups from the original game and the Uprising one.

Looking forward to this one a lot, glad you touched on if we *need* both but I knew I'd own both and keep both, though we'll see which gets more play as time goes on

Great review guys, it would be good if you could reinforce how the expansions work with the new base, do you have to take any cards out, for example? Thx

Awesome, now we all gotta sell off Dune Imperium and its expansions because Dune Uprising made them obsolete, kinda like how Clank! Catacombs did with Clank! and Clank! in Space.

I’ll admit, I didn’t buy the original but wanted to. Expansions came out and made it more difficult. Bought Uprising hearing all the news and reading designer diaries on BGG. Bought the base game to have those leaders and cards… They got me.

Chris's commentary comparing this and TI3/4 was spot on.

Looks amazing can’t wait for release!

Really helpful review. Thank you, gentlemen.

I would have appreciated clearer answers and opinions on whether you need this one if you have the original one. The idea that I got was that they wanted to say "no" but didn't want to hurt sales. You don't need to spend a big amount of money for what is, at best, a small upgrade to an amazing game.

Man that's so lucky for me. I've wanted this game for an age, so having a complete package to buy off the shelf sounds just right

Is it possible to make an explanation video or a playthrough in connection with the 6 player variant?

Curious what their thoughts are in terms of adding the other expansions. Like what’s their favorite combo of things to play.

My solution is to wait a few months before buying to see how well expansions and base game cards are implemented. I guess people will try all sorts of combinations and maybe the most optimal one will emerge. I truly hope so....

Roy, I was happy that I got to play the game with you at Mr.Beast's Dune tournament and thanks for teaching me your game, Last Light, which is awesome by the way!!!

Let's not kid ourselves, this version is going to get its own sleight of expansions. It'll have one next year I guarantee it.

You compared this to the original Dune Imperium but how do you compare uprising vs Imperium with expansions?

I will keep and happily play both

So what about original+expansions vs Uprising?

OK, Joey's joke about seeing Tremors has officially cemented his place now. 🤣

Came for the review but stayed for the food!

So will they keep the first one in print ? If not it’s a direct replacement!

Have they released the houseblend info yet?

I'm with Roy, i loved DI with ix and immo and i have played a lot of games on TTsclub. But I am so excited to get this to the table. I even imported a storage solution for the original dune, but im not even that upset because it looks like it fixes so many things from the og.

I want to see a metalist or one from the designer, which details the home brew mega version, x cards from base, y cards from IX, z cards from Immortality; and something like “if using base and IX also use these cards” which wouldn’t be used unless you combine expansions. Like you can have a list of just Immortality cards to add but you may add more Immortality cards if you also add IX in the mix.

the "spies" must flow... :3

"I've seen Tremors" got me so good.

Roy Kennedy - I'm so with you. It's amazing. 10/10 minimum.

So this is movie two? Does that mean we are getting a third Dune Imperium game in a couple of years?

Thanks for rev.

“I’ve seen Tremors”😂 laughed my head off.

November retail release?

That’s not a rabbit! Paul himself is coming for you for THAT slip up :)))

The 6 player version is SOOOOO good! We play it every week. The length is not that bad if everyone k ows what they're doing and if you limit table talk.

If I own neither then should I just buy this one?

I like the game. The only thing I would add, is a double sided turn track overlay that like turn 10 is presented, the turn ends on turn 11 or turn 12 or turn 13.😊

I bet they are going to start expanding it with something that buffs the factions they haven't made expansions for yet (emperor, maybe this was already the fremen expansion)

Dune Imperium needed Rise of Ix to open up and fix some issues with the base game. Is this one going to be sufficient on its own??

Another question. I used to own but didn't love the original Dune Imperium; I personally felt like too much of the mid- to end-game rotated around winning conflicts. Do you feel like with the changes to combat: matching cards, reduction in combat related points, potential catch-up with the sand worms, and more openness in the board with spies, etc., that it's worth investing in now or again given that I had mixed feeling before?

The new spies and mechanics around the combat cards clearly add complexity, but they also look like they open up the game alot more! I'll probably get and keep this and the original, where the original seems more combat-focused by comparison.

I haven’t played the first one. You mentioned characters that were held back for this version. Are there any characters missing from this version that were in the first? If so, is that disappointing to someone really into the theme?

My most burning question is: which is the best combination of Dune Imperium with Ix or Immortality, or the new Uprising with Ix or Immortality, or some other combination?

I don’t personally see Uprising as replacing what exists. As an avid DI fan there are some things I prefer about either version. After the initial binge of Uprising, I see myself regularly going back and forth between both modes, depending on the flavor of the day.

Rabbits? Rabbits?! Those are muad'dibs!

So I have the original and all expansion is it better than uprising?

To me, this is an overhaul expansion of one of my favorite games. So I am satisfied.

I completely agree with Chris. I love Dune Imperium BUT have only played it 13 times (over a little bit more than a year) and that's not enough to invest in this one. I even haven't bought the expansions for the first one because of that. I ' m going to up the playing rate of the first game before buying anything alse;-)

This game is SO getting an Ultimate Edition at some point Frankensteining together all the bits from both editions and expansions.

It's so weird what they did with this release. Is it too soon for what could be considered a Second Edition? It does just feel like a giant patch for the original game, which was already highly rated and praised.

I wish you would have mentioned the two player variant. Anyone tried it? I mostly play with my husband.

This game is fantastic. I've played it with 4 players and solo and its so much fun. This game is big improvement over Imperium.

Is it just me or do Sandworms feel like power crept Dreadnoughts? I still want them though lol

Indeed that is a weird way to release a product. I am very hyped for it (after playing the base one at least couple hundred times) - and I have everything imaginable for it (apart from overblown Premium upgrade - I use my own, self-made agents, acrylic custom made markers). The biggest annoyance is that my neoprene mat is now useless for it. So, all things considered it is Dune 2.0 is many, many ways. Rise of IX expansion is not THAT compatible with it at all, Immortality is totally fine, alternating Research Station may actually be better for the game (otherwise there's too many troop generating areas - ESPECIALLY Uprising's research station can lead to both combat VP and Spice Must Flow VP in a single turn.

I think of this more akin to TTR and TTR Europe as opposed to Dune 2.0. Looking forward to it!

I wish they had made an upgrade pack since this is like a V1.1 o 2.0 patch

"What do you think about the spice mechanic..." ?? OH.... "SPIES"....

The Immorality expansion was reviewed here less than a year ago, and it hasn't even been released in my country yet. Despite this, Uprising is already hitting stores. Since it's the same game with improved mechanics, I don't see how Standard Imperium and Uprising can share the shelf. If I want to play the better Dune Imperium experience, why would I play the first one? It doesn't make any sense to me. Right now, I don't think I will buy the Immorality expansion because without Uprising, I am not going to have the best Dune Imperium experience possible. I think it's just a matter of time. Releasing a Dune Imperium 1.5 less than a year after an expansion and only three years after the first game looks like a bad move because it doesn't seem different enough.

If i hadn’t the original Dune Imperium with expansions i would buy this but…no reason to spend more money on a game which is almost identical.

Table conversation: Do you mean spice or spies? Spice, I said spies!!!

This really feels like a 2nd edition. For gimmicks Uprising includes spies, contracts, and worms, while the base board has foldspace. I don't know if I'm going to return to the base board. Maybe if some parts of the first two expansions don't mix well with uprising or if I get nostalgic for carthag/hardy warriors or heighliner giving two water.

I personally would probably be frustrated if I had bought the first one and the expansions. But I didn’t so… I’m excited for this one and will skip the first lol. I think there was a better way to release this though. Maybe just call it 2.0 and offer a conversion kit (even in the box like mansions of madness did) for first edition stuff that works with it.

"How often can you say "spot" in one minute?" Tom - "Challenge accepted!" 😂

So, it's basically DI 2nd edition. I'm ok with that. Looks fun.

I have the original and no expansions but i have the deluxe box..im tempted to wait and find this on sale andnthen swap out the original for the new but use the nicer box/minis

I am one of those people who wasn't a big fan of Imperium. I Iiked it less and less with every play. Some spaces we're pretty useless or used once a game and money/spice also had very limited use. Pretty random conflict cards that might grant you VP or Just some Ressources..and some other Points. Thus sounds like it would fix some of my issues.

These sorts of things frustrate me more than excite me. Dune is my #2 all time, I have all the expansions and it’s my #2 played game as well. I want to get this but I just feel like it muddles my experience a bit. I know the expansions dont work as well, but the base game is “better”. Overall it just feels like a bit of a disappointment EVEN THOUGH I’m sure I will love the game.

The spies must flow.

Firstly, the MASSES have spoken… about their strong unhappiness with Dire Wolf. Secondly, to assume that Dire Wolf didn’t plan these releases is ________. Competent companies PLAN their projects, budgets, deadlines. *So this company planned & published the 1st edition, the 2 expansions, the deluxe upgrade, & the dreadnoughts upgrade… & then now published this 2nd edition (?!!) *. Dire Wolf really one up their loyal customers. (I also think how much time they spent to play test) Thirdly, even in this 2nd edition, there are alot of nooks & crannies in the rules & iconography that can be improved. Eg warrior icon is still the cube… (but in this 2nd edition, they decided to provide miniature & wooden Sandworm???) Lastly, thematics.. so of it doesnt make sense. Eg the Sandworm, given its such a gigantic creature is only worth strength 3?? But can give you double the combat rewards?? From where?

Sold

Someone explain to me why this and the last version gets rated so high? I find i just get flarked by the terrible cards i get which reveals better cards for others to get...

the other question is that what if i love dune imperium and ive got all expansions for it and playing it a few times each month?! ... i see this and i like what i see but im not convinced i can leave all the cool stuff in the original dune with expansion out ... its like dire wolf is doing the same thing they did with clank ... im still confused about this one tho ... can i mix most of the thing from other dune game or no just a few things ...

That's not a rabbit, that a gerbil, the symbol for -Muadib- Richard Gere.

TI3->4 is an interesting comparison, but at least those had many years between them. This feels too soon.

Honestly... If you still have to change basic worker placement spots after 2 expansions, you're not doing it right or you just want to get more money out of it every time and I'm actually tired of that. If your game is super popular and has been in the BGG top 50 in no time, I might be able to understand 1 expansion to fine-tune, but more is not necessary and has an adverse effect for me. But that's just me :-)

I hate that this is different enough, but still overly similar, since I just picked up Dune Imperium and an expansion not long ago. Sure I can own both, but why milk it so. Oh because publishers love to feed into the fetish of board gamers needing everything and deluxe-ifying every component in some way shape or form. I hate it cause I fall into that trap… uhh this hobby requires short term loans at this point. I wonder if this is a similar situation to King of Tokyo and New York. New York was an improved game, but the simplicity of Tokyo is what winded up being the better experience and most supported

How am i going to sell my copies of DI with both expansions when I only have the deluxe upgrade pack and threw away all the other boxes? My copy of uprising is on preorder.

I have 2 questions : -I feel that solari are rarest, do you feel the same ? before there were 4 places to pick some solari, now there is only 2, and one is with a condition :o -I feel that water will be rarest with ix, since we have to cover "gather support" with ix !

This is an expansion, it has Dune Imperium in the name. Direwolf could have simply excluded player pieces requiring the original and making this a new board expansion. There is no reason not to treat it as an expansion that now give you 2 boards to choose from. Uprising does not have everything D:I + expansions have. So I think TI3 vs TI4 comparison is invalid. Uprising doesnt take everything and then adds some. It removes plenty of stuff, and adds its own stuff. Think of this as a big board expansion for something like Ticket to Ride or Power Grid.

Come on Chris, you never go full Shatner

I will just implement into Dune Imperium the 2+ visits to High Council. 5 solari -> council seat (1st usage) and 2 spice + 1 intrigue + 3 troops (afterwards) I will buy Uprising ONLY for the 6-Players mode which seems to me quite interesting! For 4 or less players at my table I will go on playing Dune Imperium with Rise of Ix and Immortality in Epic Mode with my 73 Leaders and my variant " Strategic Deckbuilding Start: Upgrade Your Starting Deck! " I am wondering though if it is a good idea to play with both expansions Uprising in 6-players mode? Uprising has not convinced me at all with the Worms and the Wall and the Conflict Symbols to collect. To me it adds too much unpredictability and therefore randomness, so I'd rather play Dune Imperium if not for the 6-Players mode.

I think the Dice Tower did a disservice to the viewers by not trying the expansions and then stating that the expansions would probably make it even better. I get the clear impression that, since the expansions were made for Dune Imperium, they will not work as well with Uprising. Testing that would be important since, in my opinion, it should detract from the score, especially because it would mislead buyers into buying suboptimal expansions.

Gonna lead with this has no shade whatsoever towards the Dice Tower. In fact, they're among the few reviewers and Dune: Imperium crowd pointing out what needs to be said. 20:08 This. This is why myself and all my D:I buddies got so ticked off the moment Direwolf announced this "stand-alone expansion." This is not a stand-alone expansion. It's clear from a 5-second glance at the announcement page that this game does not "expand" onto the base game - *it replaces it.* The components are the same with new pieces for balancing (or "lore" with the shield wall), the board makes changes to accommodate new pieces and more balancing, and they released a pack of new characters to fit the upcoming movie release (oh and for balancing). If they announced this along-side an upgrade pack for all the loyal fans, I'd have no complaints at all. Uprising could be the entry point for new players and the upgrade pack would be a show of good faith to everyone who already loves the original game. Let me clarify - if you've never gotten into Dune: Imperium before, now is the time to do so. This version is the only one you'll need unless you join the hardcore crowd in which case you'd truly only need the character mats. But if you got the original game with the expansions? Congrats, you bought into the test run. Time to buy the full release. Roy's right, people won't go back to the old one anymore. "Thanks for supporting us! We'll be back for a chunk out of your savings account in 3 years with the Ultimate Edition." - Direwolf, probably

10:20 that's not a knockoff of Sir Duke at all...

Are we going to get a third game with the third movie?

This will be voted best game of. The year😊.

lol at you guys talking about all the times you have played a freaking game that isn't out yet for us plebs.

Hmm. Sounds much more of a mixed bag to me than the review suggests: - The spies sound like a great addition - The set collecting with the combat cards sounds awful. Likely too much luck and not thematic at all - Adding the sand worms is great in principle. But double combat rewards ? Why ? No thematic justification for that and basically obliges everyone to use sandworms. Also, it brakes with the overall Dune theme as I don’t recollect that the various houses controlled sandworms - And the shield wall sounds like an unnecessary complication The biggest issue is why did they do it in such a convoluted way ? Many games have little flaws. Live with it, Dune in its initial form is still an awesome game and now they somehow created a mess.

This feels like Dune: Imperium 2nd edition to me more than a true expansion

I get why so many people hate the idea of a second basegame which is not really a sequel. But I feel like they had no other choice. Dune: Imperium with both expansions already was somewhat cluttered. The Imperium deck was so bloated by the first expansion, that they had to implement an alternative deck for deck building. So a third expansion would either overkill the Imperium deck making it even harder to build a cohesive deck or introduce yet another deck. And dont even get me started on the overlay tiles for the basic board. With Uprising they have the chance to streamline the game again and they probably already have plans for expansions in order to implement them in a smoother way. Either way, one of the games will absolutely be obsolete (which is a shame) for every given group simply because they are basically the same game with minor differences.

Joey--"I've seen Tremors." 😅

"No, but I've seen Tremors" Hahaha

I guess I’ll wait to watch this review until I’ve seen the 2nd movie…? No spoilers 😂 🤷‍♂️

Waiting for Dune Imperium - God Emperor.

Couldn't stop thinking about how you called it a rabbit. The tiny creature is a muad'dib, where Paul gets his Fremen name. It was also hilarious listening to y'all try to pronounce CHOAM.

Why not address the obvious question? Not just "If you have original", but "what if you have original and all expansions?"

Maybe they made it a module cause they want it to be usable in a third game.

I'm glad they made it a stand-alone since the original required expansions to be great so I never got it. This one seems like the perfect edition which I already preordered and can't wait to dive into. Standalone expansions are sometimes the better option, especially for audience that doesn't already own the base game.