DUNE Science: Arsenic and Old SPICE

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2 ай бұрын

Astrophysicist Andy Howell looks at Spice Melange in Dune and how it affects the Fremen, comparing it to the people of the Atacama and their unusual tolerance of Arsenic. #dune #dune2 #science

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@austink4712 2 ай бұрын

Dune was actually written while the author was high on shrooms, so while spice does have a lot of similarities to coke, the entire story is loosely based around psychedelic mushrooms

@genericyoutubeuser8957 2 ай бұрын

Spice is an allegory for oil.

@mattalex2113 Ай бұрын

@@genericyoutubeuser8957multiple things can be true at once

@brainwrongbarf Ай бұрын

Um... spice has practically zero similarities to cocaine. What are you talking about?

@EllissDee4you4me Ай бұрын

good luck even writing your name while “high on mushrooms”

@aesra1185 Ай бұрын

@@EllissDee4you4medepends on the dosage bucko

@OdiVonDobi22 2 ай бұрын

Space coke is a helluva drug...

@minifeebas8911 Ай бұрын

more paddos than coke, as other comments also pointed out

@joshuasplural 28 күн бұрын

I"M RICK JAMES BITCH

@j-bob_oreo 28 күн бұрын

the next movie ? cheech and chong

@bl3748 Ай бұрын

If youve watched the movie i dont blame you for thinking spice isnt at the center of the conflict, but it definitely is. Spice is the ultimate product in that time. Herbert even says that often in history wars arise from the environment, for control over a pivotal resource which is most scarce. On Dune that is water. For the empire it is spice

@rob98000 Ай бұрын

I had to curb my spice addiction after it ruined my run in Enter The Gungeon.

@mrbuttocks6772 29 күн бұрын

Glad to see someone else who plays that glorious game!

@Anonymoose862 23 күн бұрын

this is a very niche crossover, and i had to comment to let you know you're not the only one

@scp-2348 14 күн бұрын

Spice spamming on rainbow run plus a clone or two was one of my most satisfying games ever.

@johnathanflannagan2407 Ай бұрын

So when Stilgar meets the Atreides for the first time and tells Paul “I recognize you”, is it possibly some vision he had thru the psychotropics of spice?

@Jachammer93 Ай бұрын

Paul hadn't taken the spice before meeting Stilgar. But he did have prescient dreams before coming to Arrakis. The spice filled atmosphere and food really unlocked his prescience

@xanderbucher9625 16 күн бұрын

@@Jachammer93 he questioned whether stilgar had a vision, not paul.

@rikospostmodernlife 27 күн бұрын

More than psichotropic, the spice might deserve the classification of nootropic, since it enhances the brain's natural ability to create predictive models rather than simply give delusional visions or alter actual perceptions. It's like the difference between soberly aiming the throw of a ball and being the tripped up guy that tries to catch it 1 minute after it already fell. You wouldn't prefer the second one over the first to pilot your spaceship, and you surely wouldn't drug the first so that he becomes like the second.

@aproxy7263 Ай бұрын

The arsenic must flow!

@Z1lj1n Ай бұрын

CHILE MENTIONED

@catchphase 9 күн бұрын

Anyone who has played Spore knows that spice is the most important thing in the universe.

@user-fi5vx8cl3b 2 ай бұрын

Mushrooms.

@dathomirpizzagirl9686 17 күн бұрын

Actually spice just makes you really good at math, im not joking, look it up Since they dont use computers, the guild navigators are the one doing all the space travel math using spice

@cko- Ай бұрын

Spice is actually also extends life.

@marcsles Ай бұрын

At the center of the conflict of dune, is not the spice. It is the Throne.

@E44792 Ай бұрын

the throne would allow that empire to extract the spice. theyre after the spice as well

@ZamsTheTank 27 күн бұрын

Tell me you only watched the movies. Spice makes the universe go round.

@WordsOfARaven 28 күн бұрын

So, not the trail of the grasses

@DragonballZDeep215 Ай бұрын

So their eyes are blue because theyre spice addicts?

@TheDemanour Ай бұрын

Sounds odd hearing someone say you mine spice, given the harvesters don't have any drills and such, and all the characters say harvest, like one would a crop.

@poetato5331 Ай бұрын

Spice of life is dmt

@predx13 28 күн бұрын

It's not really mined, it's an organic substance.

@LGH666 Ай бұрын

Yeah I make spice mélange from things I get out of my back yard, looks exactly like that stuff. It wont make your eyes turn blue, but it will damn sure make make your asshole turn bright red.

@Hjaelteomslag Ай бұрын

South Park has their own spice melange.

@gardenlifelove9815 Ай бұрын

I thinks its funny that many humans call any mind opening effects " psychotropic effects "

@asnaghall Ай бұрын

Because that's what those words mean.

@jamessalas7324 26 күн бұрын

so it's just weed with bule eyes instead. lol

@nobodycares6633 Ай бұрын

Spice is not the reason for the fude

@TrexCreative Ай бұрын

Erm jus use the warp 🤓

@spearhead5053 27 күн бұрын

WRONG. It allows PAUL to tap into the experiences of every person and fremen that has ever lived thus giving him the ability to predict the future based on past events and outcomes.

@jkhcu 26 күн бұрын

If prescience was only predictive power taken to the extreme, it wouldn't be limited by other prescients, tarot cards, no-globes and no-ships, and people (i.e. Siona and her descendants) wouldn't be able to be genetically engineered to be "invisible" to it. Take a no-room for example. Suppose someone in the past is using prescience to search for them. A person is outside of the no-room, and the prescient searcher can use super-math to predict what they are thinking and doing and what colour clothing they are wearing. The person walks into the no-room, and suddenly they are invisible to the prescient searcher. By walking into the room they have become... less predictable? They walk out of the no-room and are more predictable again? Especially since the prescient searcher could be active hundreds (or thousands) of years before the person goes in and out of the no-room. How could that action affect their predictability to someone in the past?

@jkhcu 26 күн бұрын

If prescience was only predictive power, it wouldn't be disrupted by other prescients, tarot cards, no-globes and no-ships, and people wouldn't be able to be genetically engineered to be "invisible" to it.

@jkhcu 26 күн бұрын

If prescience was only predictive power, it wouldn't be disrupted by other prescient people, tarot cards, no-globes and no-ships, and people wouldn't be able to be engineered to become invisible to it.

@jkhcu 26 күн бұрын

If prescience was just predictive power, it wouldn't be disrupted by other prescient people, no-globes and no-ships, and people (i.e. Siona and her descendants) couldn't be genetically engineered to become invisible to it

@jkhcu 26 күн бұрын

If I understood correctly, what you are saying is that prescience is simply predictive power taken to the extreme? If so I don't think that's the case. (note that the below is copied from the Dune subreddit) Take a no-room for example. Suppose someone in the past is using prescience to search for another person. That person is outside of the no-room, and at the moment the prescient searcher can use super-math to predict what they are thinking and doing and what colour clothing they are wearing. The person walks into the no-room, and suddenly they are invisible to the prescient searcher. By walking into the room they have somehow become... completely unpredictable? They could then walk out of the no-room after 1000 years of having given zero information and are immediately predictable again? Especially since the prescient searcher could be active hundreds (or thousands) of years before the person goes in and out of the no-room. How could that action affect their predictability to someone in the past?

@davidreinker5600 Ай бұрын

Are the Atacama resistant to arsenic because only they have the mutation (what are the odds?), or are they resistant because the genetic trait is present in some people but only Atacama people without the gene died off because of the arsenic in the water?

@ythegameritaisthebest 27 күн бұрын

Natural selection, people who were more resistant to arsenic had higher odds of multiplying

@davidreinker5600 27 күн бұрын

@@ythegameritaisthebest So the second one. Natural selection doesn't explain the existence of the trait, it only explains the high level of occurrence.

@ythegameritaisthebest 27 күн бұрын

@@davidreinker5600 it probably started with someone having a slightly higher resistance to arsenic, that allowed them to drink more water, so the gene was passed on because it gave a higher chance to reproduce, and they just kept getting more and more resistant

@davidreinker5600 27 күн бұрын

@@ythegameritaisthebest Yes. And what are the odds that one person lived in a place that had high levels of arsenic in the water?

@ythegameritaisthebest 27 күн бұрын

@@davidreinker5600 because you don't really notice that you're resistant to arsenic if there isn't any arsenic