You may want to check out the early access releasing today. There are a ton of changes that is coming with the release. customizable ability selection for each class to fine tune how you want to play, as well as the dev's taking the decision to be a buy to play, and switching to fully free to play (Outside being able to post items on the marketplace in order to make sure items posted are more meaningful and not congested with useless listings) with the option to pay for a "Supporter edition" for roughly $10USD but translated to specific regional pricing based on your location and in no way hinders the gameplay loop whatsoever.. as well as a ton of QoL changes in general that are welcomed changes.

umm. not even quite getting the question at hand. clearly the teamwork aspect gets hella boosted by this, because you have to actually wait for your mates to extract and help them even tho you could just bail. its not bad design. people are trash :D i play with friends tho. its always great communicating who is willing to maybe be left behind if were not too kitted. or look together for more portals and then backtrack and extract strategically

its like asking whole genre to change not gonna happen in this game or dad they need to make whole game about it just to be enjoyable + its not gonna be as profitable like pvp

@@unknown_zz No problem! I appreciate that :)

No problem! Glad I could help and I appreciate the compliment :D

Amazing well said brother! Ive been saying the same thing over and over on stream and even in some of these comments that comparing this game to Dark and Darker is like comparing League to Dota or comparing Call of Duty to Battlefield. Same genre, completely different game and feeling. Ive been really enjoying dungeonborne though and I agree with what you said about the melee combat :D

@@VinisKitchen22that doesn’t mean we can’t compare these games. Competition between games is good and needed for this gerne. But this game is definitely some time behind in development. I hope the best for the future

@@mbeh420 Yep, I dont disagree! I think its fine to compare the games but I dont think its wise to compare them from a "which game is better" standpoint which is what the vast vast majority of people are trying to do. In reality if you want to compare them you need to go system by system or compare certain aspects in my opinion, but I dont disagree with you :D

well dark and darker wouldnt be compared to league, league is goofier and more accessible than dota which is probably why you enjoyed it more, dungeonborne is probably more like LoL in that sense, however people get it wrong when they say the game is easier than dark and darker, it definitely isn't and it gets sweaty in the high roller room

Yooo! Thanks so much :D Shoutout to you guys for making a great and super fun game

@Dungeonborne it's only going tp get better I believe in you guys!

You should be able to buy short swords for extremely cheap from the merchant they added that in a patch during the last playtest :)

@@j.j.410 correct but Dark and darker doesn’t have that currently either I don’t believe, the maps in DungeonBorne though are miles ahead of the ones in DaD though I’ll just say that 😅

@@VinisKitchen22 Dungeonborne in it's entirety i'd say feels that way. But overall; I recall that being the main reason I wanted to play dark and darker, but i was dissapointed by the gameplay loop when it came out. That said, I'll be trying dungeonborne today; gotta say thanks for putting it on my radar :)

@@j.j.410 No problem brotha! Good luck in your games, I hope you enjoy it as much as I have! It should also just get better from here since its still pretty early in development :)

Oh god I'm waiting to die to this combo 😂😂😂

Ill raise you one - Petrify + perfectly timed Thunderclap into Crossbow shot 👀

Same, if nothing is done about this, DaD will still be king I think

Interesting, it hasnt really felt that way to me while playing it but maybe its because Im just used to having only two skills from other similar games. Its important to keep in mind that all of the weapons have special combos or special heavy attacks that sort of feel like abilities themselves. :)

@@VinisKitchen22 i swear i saw a rogue with a dagger throw ability instead of the petrify. even saw it while checking his stuff while spectating. how do you unlock different abilities?

@@IAmSpazGaming that was not a rogue it was the mithril version

@@IAmSpazGaming Yeah as the other guy said thats the mithril order version of the rogue :)

Its a lot worse than Dark and Darker because its less complex. It has only 2 skills per class. The combat is less precise in general. As he stated on stream yesterday, it is more "arcadey". I wanted to like this game but was disappointed. It might become better over time depending on the developer.

@@warlockCommitteeMeeting tbh Dark and Darker is way too slow paced for my liking

@@warlockCommitteeMeetingthat doesn’t make it worse It’s like Tarkov and ABi DaD is more hardcore and slower paced While this is chill but still same loop and vibe which can kinda help DaD if they like this style a game they’ll prob check dark and darker out

@@warlockCommitteeMeeting I definitely didnt say this game was more arcadey than Dark and Darker. Also Dark and Darker only has two skills per class as well, at least two skills that you can have active at any time but to be honest most of the classes only have two to three good skills to choose from. I personally think Dungeonborne is probably more complex at least when it comes to melee combat, stats, gear and consumables.

I like both games a lot but personally have really been enjoying Dungeonborne, I really like the Melee combat additions of light attacks, heavy attacks, parries and being able to block with all weapons + shields. Not to mention that blocking is ACTUALLY useful in this game where is in DaD its literally just shooting yourself in the foot if you ever decide to block even when using a shield which is meant for it whereas blocking in this game at the right time with any weapon actually feels impactful and good. I also enjoy the fact that its not just ranged vs ranged in every single fight and its actually the opposite, almost every single fight I get into quickly moves into melee, even against or while playing as a caster its not just permanently kiting. The combat is a bit more slow paced and decision based but that honestly feels pretty good to me it has resulted in a longer time to kill and opens up a ton of opportunities for outplaying opponents even if they are much more geared than you which Dark and Darker is severely lacking in currently for both the time to kill and the ability to outplay opponents that are more geared than you. As I said before, I think both games are good but are quite different, personally I think there is more skill expression in combat in Dungeonborne than Dark and Darker and it also gnerally has a slower paced feeling which leads to a lot less of people just holding W, stat checking and holding M1 on their opponents because if you do just W key and hold M1 on a good player in dungeonborne you will get smoked 100% but that never happens in Dark and Darker. All in all though Im probably going to be playing mostly dungeonborne if not exclusively dungeonborne while the playtest is active if that gives you an idea of how Im feeling. The last thing Ill say is that the solos meta of Dark and Darker feels a lot like rock paper scissors where this build beats that build and that build beats this build, so on and so forth. As of yet I havent really felt that in Dungeonborne which is another thing I really like, every fight feels relatively fair and typically comes down to who plays their class better, uses consumables properly, positions properly etc.

They left that class out intentionally at least for the time being to my understanding, they dont want the game to turn into a ranged vs ranged fiesta in every single fight and want to stay focused on keeping the melee combat the core of the PVP experience. :)

Ranger ruined dark and darker

@@gabrielvernikov6394 such as? Like what other info would you have liked to see?

Supposed to be fully releasing shortly after this playtest is complete according to the Official Discord Server :)

Yessir :D

no

I think the answer to that question is going to be different for every individual but dont listen to this other guy that just said no. Both games are great in their own ways and incredibly different, I genuinely believe its like asking if league of legends is better than Dota 2 or Vice Versa or if Call of Duty is better than Battlefield or Vice Versa. They are just too different of games to really compare in a "which is better" sense, even though they are in the same genre. I will just say though that I am having a ton of fun playing dungeonborne and dont really plan to go back to playing DaD while the dungeonborne playtest remains active, Im just having too much fun in dungeonborne lmao. Annnndddd Im kind of sick and tired of the whole repetitive cycle thats been going on in DaD recently where there is a new OP build every week because the Devs are making drastic changes to class balance every week and then that OP build is just running around in solos literally holding W at people with their eyes closed while they roll their face on their keyboard and wipe the lobby *Cough* No Spell Cleric Currently *Cough*.

@@VinisKitchen22 league of legends > dota 2 & cod > battlefield, confirmed by me

@@MrRawrgers GG

@@MrRawrgers if you put LoL above dota you can't be taken seriously dude Dota is a much more difficult and complex game than LoL and if you claim DnD is much more difficult and complex than dungeonborne than you would prefer dota over LoL

Yep, red portals spawn on Sinners end towards the end of the match. Each red portal is actually a triple portal as well so all 3 members of a team can use it together :)

@@bilbobeenus69 to each their own. I’ve played over 1500 hours of DaD but I’m still really enjoying DungeonBorne and I’ve played with other people that feel similarly :)

ay, game is kinda fire I cant even lie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@@VinisKitchen22 its definitely interesting. cryomancer with the fire staff seems pretty strong, the range is soo long on that thing.

@@MarvinGunkle True im also just a little tired of the repetitive cycle that DaD has been in recently where every week or every other week the Devs make major Class balance changes out of nowhere and just create some monstrosity of an OP build that then as a result starts showing up in waves in every single solos game and then proceeds to just close their eyes, hold W at enemy players and roll their face on their keyboard while they wipe the whole lobby @Cleric atm. Just as an example though look at the Warlock changes from a week ago or whatever, genuinely what were the devolopers thinking when they made those changes...?

@@VinisKitchen22 yeah adapting to a new build every week because of something being rotated into S+ tier can suck, having everything that isnt meta be pushed to the wayside is not fun. for the warlock changes do you mean tm health costs or the demonform turbo upgrade>completely dead?

@@MarvinGunkle The demonform stuff haha 😂