Dura Ace Disc brake Installation and bleeding How-to | Road to Dura Ace 9170 Ep.3

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Rides of Japan

Rides of Japan

7 жыл бұрын

A walkthrough of installing and bleeding the Dura Ace R9170 disc brakes.
Shifter and Caliper unboxing video here:
• Dura Ace 9170 Disc bra...
Tools used for the install (Calipers, Shifters and Disc Rotors)
Cutter knife
Vise
Hammer
7mm Open ended wrench/spanner
8mm Open ended wrench/spanner
5mm Allan key
4mm Allan key
Shimano "Bleed Funnel” (Included in a bleed kit) amzn.to/2HGMDz5
Bleed funnel adapter for r9170/r8070 amzn.to/2HxCaae
Syringe (Included in a bleed kit) amzn.to/2HGMDz5
Shimano Cassette tool
Electrical tape
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Front Brake Caliper: amzn.to/2HKPneX
Rear Brake Caliper: amzn.to/2G6BDxO
Rotors: amzn.to/2FNQ9eg
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@dwaynepedals
@dwaynepedals 4 ай бұрын
Dude! I still come to this video when I need to bleed my own brakes. This is what I call evergreen content lol. Thanks bud.
@jarydanderson1400
@jarydanderson1400 3 ай бұрын
yup, back here for the third time myself!
@trialmx
@trialmx 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered you recently and have been binge watching your videos. They really resonant with me as a recreational rider and mechanic. You've talked of naps on occasion during a ride, when I go out on a hike I usually get a nap in along the way in a hammock. I may adapt naps to my rides. Enjoyed the jazz!
@jbratt
@jbratt 5 жыл бұрын
@ 3:24 ...I have been a mechanic/bike racer/bike nerd for years and never thought of this one. That is an awesome tip and will use it. Thanks for a great video.
@ecky23q
@ecky23q 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is building their first bike, this is a life saver. Thank you!
@danharrisdesign
@danharrisdesign 3 жыл бұрын
Simply the best "how to" on brake installation/bleeding! Thank you!
@khazza930
@khazza930 4 жыл бұрын
I've just gone through ~15 vids on disc brakes setup... this one by far the best! Thank you so much!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@PeakTorque
@PeakTorque 4 жыл бұрын
Mate your videos are so complete and clear. Invaluable. Thanks!
@backpacker3421
@backpacker3421 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. Not enough "top to bottom" videos on KZfaq (yours was the only one I could find) for this procedure. Very clear, very thorough. I'm building my first disc bike now, and I'll probably be installing the brakes in a few days after my wheels arrive. After watching your video I feel much more confident to tackle the job.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
+Christopher Cornette thanks man! Happy to read you comment. I was myself looking for thorough instructions before I started messing with disc brakes but couldn't find any so decided I would make one myself. Glad someone find it useful!
@ashtonmalakai8674
@ashtonmalakai8674 2 жыл бұрын
instablaster
@raneksi
@raneksi Жыл бұрын
Park Tool's video on Shimano drop bar brake bleeding has top to bottom procedure starting at around 6:15
@tewaewae
@tewaewae 6 жыл бұрын
Adam, this is a real help for so many people. Brilliant.
@haidau3936
@haidau3936 4 жыл бұрын
Great job on this very thorough beginning to end installation, bravo!
@ilyapo
@ilyapo 3 жыл бұрын
I wish every tutorial would be like this one - stylish and clear
@RixterNow
@RixterNow 6 жыл бұрын
Clear and concise. No wasted fluff
@anthonygittins506
@anthonygittins506 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Some really useful tips, like removing the caliper/lever to make installing the hose easier. Cheers fella!
@Xiusepe
@Xiusepe 2 жыл бұрын
Helped by this video on 2022! And that jazzy background music…always with class.
@winnowsports
@winnowsports 3 жыл бұрын
Related to hydraulic brake, this is the best video I've ever seen! TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@markbrown9803
@markbrown9803 4 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful “how to” video I’ve ever watched!
@eliotroberts3184
@eliotroberts3184 5 жыл бұрын
About to do the transition from RS785 to R9170, this video is super helpful, love your content. Many thanks!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
Eliot Roberts super happy to hear that! Good luck with the transition!
@ryant75
@ryant75 5 жыл бұрын
Hello. Will you be using the R9170 with r785 calipers? Bh59 hoses?
@SirFartsAlot1
@SirFartsAlot1 2 жыл бұрын
All other videos only do the first part and I would wonder why my lever wouldn't get any firmer, thanks to you now it's great thank you so much!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Brenton Collas Sorry mate, I was going to reply to your comment, and accidentally pressed the delete button! Anyway, you don't need the funnel adapter with the 785 STI levers! They do however use the BH50 hose (bh90 used on the new 9170/8070)
@nikveldkamp8630
@nikveldkamp8630 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Well shot and edited. More importantly, I could manage my shift from mechanical to hydraulic for the first time without any flaws. Thanks for the help!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, happy you found it helpful 🙏
@Outdoorsyfella
@Outdoorsyfella 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, just what I needed for fitting some GRX levers 👍🏼
@U.s.e.r.3493
@U.s.e.r.3493 4 жыл бұрын
Came across your build series....about to start my own little build. Following all your guidance! 👍👍
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
R Xie good luck mate!
@gregjanikian190
@gregjanikian190 7 жыл бұрын
That was super helpful. Excellent video production quality too! Thank you!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 7 жыл бұрын
+Greg Janikian thank you for those kind words. Very happy you found it helpful!
@tommanos2596
@tommanos2596 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great instructional video. This was super helpful and enabled me to do this for the first.
@durtsurferr
@durtsurferr 4 жыл бұрын
You were the only vid I could find for a dry bleed. Thanks! If you have GRX I’d love to see that specifically
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from the bleed port location the method should be exactly the same. Cheers!
@Knud451
@Knud451 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Now I have something to go by for my next bike :)
@wql1
@wql1 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome and very detailed! Just what I needed. Thank you so much!!!
@richardm9688
@richardm9688 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Watching it now in July 2020. Very useful and helpful as I am bleeding brakes for the first time and am having trouble because air has obviously got trapped in the cable. I will go and try again!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Richard M good luck mate! Cheers!
@garysladek9110
@garysladek9110 Жыл бұрын
Just wat I was looking for, thanks, cheers, happy riding.
@anyonecanbicycle4438
@anyonecanbicycle4438 2 жыл бұрын
Trace Velo recommended your video. Great tutorial!
@soderkultalahti
@soderkultalahti 3 жыл бұрын
This video about this subject is awesome!
@rudycxr4527
@rudycxr4527 6 жыл бұрын
Belle vidéo, clair et efficace, merci.
@havefunandbikestuff
@havefunandbikestuff 6 жыл бұрын
chill and relaxing vid. enjoyed it 4 sure
@vincem5
@vincem5 5 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for the info and links in this vid. i have been searching every where to find the right set to bleed these brakes.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
vincem5 don’t forget that you need that funnel adapter as well if you don’t already have it.
@vincem5
@vincem5 5 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan that’s exactly the part I was looking for everywhere. Wondering how do I screw the cup on🤔 thanks again 👍🏼
@arthurmcneal6421
@arthurmcneal6421 4 жыл бұрын
I will bet bike shop mechanics are making a fortune installing and maintaining these braking systems.I for one will stick with my standard sidepull caliper brakes.I applaud the guy who did this video though.
@nathansharp3193
@nathansharp3193 2 ай бұрын
This is a REALLY GOOD video!! Thanks for sharing!
@rosskline
@rosskline 3 жыл бұрын
I like the bag idea! Thanks.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That was helpful!
@djgarrett21
@djgarrett21 6 жыл бұрын
If you're not getting paid to do this kind of thing you should. Amazing work. I haven't searched but I hope you have a video on how to setup/route the Di2 cables and derailleurs.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! During the last 5 months the ads on my videos has generated about $10 haha. Luckily I make videos for fun not for money, so it's all good. Much more rewarding to hear that you guys find the videos helpful. I have not done any Di2 routing video apart from the handlebar junction unfortunately but that's a good idea, will remember it for next time I'm messing around with Di2 or building up a new frame. Thanks again!
@DavidJKM
@DavidJKM 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and the music certainly helps with what is quite a stressful process the first time done. I just wish I'd seen it earlier: I over-tightened the bleed screw and stripped it... It's much too easy to do this with such a tiny aluminium hex bolt, so I assume it really does not need to be fastened tight at all. Fortunately there is enough 'outside' of the screw-head clear of the lever body for a small pair of pliers to get sufficient grip on it. But it took a lot of profanity before I realised this. I'd also advise against using a ball-headed allen key on the bleed screw, it seems to make the slipping/ stripping problem worse. Flat-sided, and inserted as straight and deep as possible.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
100% agree! I can add that even my "expensive" hex set has a slight curve on the non-ball end side that can cause trouble. Now I always use a really cheap set of small hex keys that at totally flat on both ends. Like you say, it doesn't need to be that tight at all, it's probably the rubber O-ring that keeps it sealed rater than the actual screw. Cheers!
@hberlin836
@hberlin836 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Helped me so much! 👌🏻thanks
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
H Berlin happy to hear you found it helpful! Cheers!
@jurrenawijn119
@jurrenawijn119 4 жыл бұрын
Superb video!!! Gave me confidence that I can install this myself
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck👍
@jurrenawijn119
@jurrenawijn119 4 жыл бұрын
@@ridesofjapan thanks a lot!
@danielcrabbe
@danielcrabbe 4 жыл бұрын
Great help! I have the Ultegra version which have the bolts already in the levers with a yellow stopping valve. I'm presuming there's liquid in them already. The cables are already attached to the callipers and sealed. I'm not really sure how to approach getting the stopper and bolts out of the levers and attaching to the cables?
@SatrioYuliawan
@SatrioYuliawan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro for this amazing video👍👍
@TommyShlong
@TommyShlong 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! Thanks!
@pballasiotes
@pballasiotes 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid! and i like the vid style
@dennisertandy
@dennisertandy 5 жыл бұрын
how you not get a million subs congratulation you got a new subscriber
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙏
@epicsiege8508
@epicsiege8508 Жыл бұрын
We use them. Excellent.
@fast4four
@fast4four 5 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video...subscribed🤘🚴‍♂️🤘
@dominicshipsey607
@dominicshipsey607 2 жыл бұрын
great video and I like the music too
@massionmassii
@massionmassii 6 жыл бұрын
Shimano has great tool for cutting brake hoses and installing inserts (TL-BH62). It makes that job easy. btw, you making great videos =)
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
+massionmassii thank you! yes, I've seen it as well. Did not really feel it was necessary as I do this once or twice per year. But good to know that it is an option! Thanks for sharing!
@MrMilanboy7
@MrMilanboy7 3 жыл бұрын
im gonna do it tommorow , after this video it looks like to make a tea :) very nice :)
@lmc333
@lmc333 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Jazz background music too !!
@Smoovebert
@Smoovebert 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you!!
@jamesthecow
@jamesthecow 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Any tips on how to bleed the Rear Brake to avoid sponginess? do I simply tilt the front of the bike upward on the bike stand to position the Rear Brake to the Lowest Point possible during the bleed? Thank you in advance!
@doddyadipermana2934
@doddyadipermana2934 3 жыл бұрын
love your video, it is awsome
@MTBY0uTube
@MTBY0uTube 5 жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you
@Zclmjhi35
@Zclmjhi35 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you!
@jamos169
@jamos169 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thank you.
@baronvonhoughton
@baronvonhoughton 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I'd found this video earlier! Especially before I did round off the bleed screw head. Looks like its a really common problem, they are ssssooo soft its madness.
@BrenoReis_dk
@BrenoReis_dk 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Now I'm not afraid to buy a new STI hydraulic lever :)
@grandjaguar
@grandjaguar 4 жыл бұрын
Great great great video.👍🏼
@tahevol
@tahevol 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thanks
@nickg8579
@nickg8579 5 жыл бұрын
very nice video!
@joncasey6421
@joncasey6421 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@frederikmejlby3053
@frederikmejlby3053 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Thanks!😀
@elorz007
@elorz007 4 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this after watching the rotor installation video from Park Tools and they recommend to not put grease for the rotor and centerlock lockring. But as long as you are careful to not contaminate the rotors, I don't see why not to put grease there as explained in this video
@alebart2493
@alebart2493 3 жыл бұрын
The axles that are pretty much at the same distance from the rotor as the centerlock are, are full of grease. I agree, if you're careful when applying the grease and when cleaning it isn't a problem
@LaughingSaint66
@LaughingSaint66 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows always grease any connecting bike parts!!
@marcuswong1797
@marcuswong1797 4 жыл бұрын
Most important tip of this video.. do now overtighten. You are better off checking your brakes for leaking over the next few days than over tighten it. I had to buy a new shifter because of this problem. the threads inside the shifter is made of cheap plastic/alum or whatever the crap it is. I wish shimano made the fill port like their older models with real metal and very hard to strip
@cccpkingu
@cccpkingu 5 жыл бұрын
Lighten up on the shifter screw, it is only an o-ring that is compressed. ~0.7Nm
@JanB12Bikes
@JanB12Bikes 4 жыл бұрын
brilliant and soothing! :-)
@ioannidesalex
@ioannidesalex 6 жыл бұрын
i would like to replace the brake calipers only. should i use new "olive" ring and hose insert at the existing brake line? or should i also change the brake line with a new one?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Ioannides To be sure that it will be a tight seal I would cut of the old insert/olive and install a new one. No need to change the hose as long as it is long enough and the new caliper can use the same hose (In Shimano’s case SM-HB90 and SM-HB59)
@manupollet
@manupollet 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice & instructive video - as always. @1:40, the bolts provided with Ultegra R8070 are way too long for my bokeh frame. Should I look for shorter bolts or work with spacers? Thanks and keep up the good work!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
MaPo depends on how long they are? I I used spacers in my Bokeh as well, maybe 5mm or there about. You don’t really want to have them stick out too far underneath. You can also buy those bolts on amazon, this is the one for 15mm stays amzn.to/2FettUE Don’t remember exactly which length the Bokeh required. Cheers!
@j.k2869
@j.k2869 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, love your videos. Do you know how to adjust the new 105 disc STI to get the breakting point earlyer? At the moment I can pull the lever to far to the handlebar...
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Sound like you still need to bleed the brakes a bit more if you can pull the lever all the way to the handle bar. Put an extra drop of mineral oil into the bleed port on the lever once you have removed the bleed funnel, just to make sure not air sneaks in when putting back the bleed screw.
@TonyFlexPromo
@TonyFlexPromo 4 жыл бұрын
How does Canyon feels compared to Open UP?
@Digi20
@Digi20 5 жыл бұрын
Someone got an idea if and how i could rescue an ultegra 8070 shifter that has an olive pressed into the thread? mistakenly had one in there while screwing in the cable with another. now the first one is completly stuck in there and cracked. it doesnt seem you can take apart the shifter to better maybe pry it out from the bottom?
@Dinge4
@Dinge4 5 жыл бұрын
Old post and video I know, but did you find a solution for this? Someone who is building my new bike has unfortunately made the same mistake and he's not sure how to solve it.
@pierantonip
@pierantonip 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know the code ore where is possible to buy the adapter for the bleed funne? Thanks for this useful video
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like you can buy it on amazon now amzn.to/2HxCaae
@aaronl1402
@aaronl1402 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Just curious if I do take out the hydraulic hose from levers after installation do I need to rebleed etc? I am only asking cause I dont have a bleed kit and would like to change bars.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Most likely you need to rebleed as air might sneak in to the system. You will know once you connect everything again... when you disconnect make sure you don't squeeze the levers. If the lever feel "spongey" when reconnected, then it's probably best to rebleed. Btw, unless you're handlebars are internally routed you shouldn’t have to disconnect the hoses.
@aaronl1402
@aaronl1402 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah I am taking out the internally routed ready bars for a custom paint job and figure I try to do it myself without bringing it to the shop. Guess I best buy the bleed kit.. Btw are Sram bleed kit and shimano bleeding systems compatible other then using diff oils
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
The way you bleed them are quite different... you could probably hack your way using sram syringes with Shimano, but not the other way around. Shimano are way simpler to bleed as you don't really need syringes.
@jacobmortensen3875
@jacobmortensen3875 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for you time, what is the model nr on the yellow bleed block ?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
+jacob mortensen I can’t find any part number in it unfortunately. But it’s a smaller version for the flat mount calipers than for the post mount. There’s a better picture of it in the unboxing video as well.
@briansmith2125
@briansmith2125 6 жыл бұрын
How much lever movement did you turn out with before the brakes grabbed? I know you can adjust the reach and free stroke on these levers but mine seem to have a lot more "distance travel" toward the handlebar than my old 785 levers did?! The brakes work fine, but there is just a lot of travel. Do yours feel like they have a longer pull as well?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Smith, hmmm no, I think it was about the same feel if not a tad better... was a while ago now I used the 785 so can’t say for sure. I always liked a lot of travel on my levers though. Check my reach and free stroke video, I have mine set to minimum free stroke and about middle reach.... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7qbqMeYvsuUdY0.html maybe you can compare yours to the travel in that video.
@marcwinther4704
@marcwinther4704 5 жыл бұрын
Swapping out ST-R785 shifters and BR-RS805 calibers for ST-R9170 and BR-R9170, would the same hydraulic cables be re-usable?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
According to Shimano, they say you should use the BH90 cables with 9170/8070 rather than the BH59 that are specced for the 785/805. I haven't tried using any other combination so can't confirm or deny if it will cause any problems. One thing to keep in mind though, is that the Hose nut you need for the 9170/8070 levers only comes with the BH90 road hose kit.
@Digi20
@Digi20 5 жыл бұрын
From what i know the BH90 have a bigger diameter to push more/easier fluid. shimano adopted the MTB stuff to road here. in theorey it should work with the old cable, too, but you need to buy the new hose nut seperatly then.
@highfived
@highfived 4 жыл бұрын
This is the reason I am sticking with rim brakes
@azbikerider49
@azbikerider49 4 жыл бұрын
Since when is Tom Boonen doing how to videos??? :)
@liteningpedals9432
@liteningpedals9432 6 жыл бұрын
11:21 What is the torque requirement for tightening the front break mounting bolts on a carbon fork. According to Shimano manual 6-8 Nm is needed but i think that's too much. Great Video, thanks.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Litening Pedals you should be okay with the Shimano specs unless the framemaker specifically states something else. I’m usually in the 5-7 range.
@liteningpedals9432
@liteningpedals9432 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jovianpesik
@jovianpesik 6 жыл бұрын
I just want to replace my rear caliper due to cosmetic scratches. Everything works fine. Do I need to bleed after the installation?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Jovian Pesik most likely yes.
@raptor7547
@raptor7547 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Great video, just got one question. I'm building a bike from scratch with Ultegra R8070. How do you recommend me to measure hydraulic cable lengths since I don't have the old ones to compare? Thanks.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
I would thread the full length hose through the frame, then secure it at the point where it would be at the rear brake caliper. Take the other end and hold it against the handlebar (or even tape it down if necessary) then turn the handlebar in both directions and make sure you have enough slack so the bars can turn freely. Like I do @ 0:27 in this video. Hope that helps
@raptor7547
@raptor7547 5 жыл бұрын
@@ridesofjapan Thank you!!!! I'm really excited about the build!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
Jernej Markovc Nice mate, nothing like building up your own bike 👍Good luck!
@stuarthenderson3903
@stuarthenderson3903 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for this video, super useful and easy to follow! Managed my first brake bleed without issue. Noticed my pads are getting a bit lower (nothing dire), so started searching for new pads. Couldn't find Shimano lo3a pads anywhere (or basically any Shimano pads). I live in Japan, and in Tokyo, but that doesn't seem to help. Any thoughts on suitable replacements for the lo3a pads?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 2 жыл бұрын
I got word from my LBS that Shimano is replacing L03A with a new pad L04a (probably look exactly the same) but probably still be a while before it’s out I reckon. Any pad that fit the Shimano flat mount is better than nothing, but I haven’t personally tested any of them so can’t give you a recommendation sorry.
@stuarthenderson3903
@stuarthenderson3903 2 жыл бұрын
@@ridesofjapan much appreciated. Will see what the LBS suggests…
@jlee622
@jlee622 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great instruction. Now.. what should I do if I actually overtightened bleed screw and messed it up?; help plz.. TIA
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Did you totally strip the head? If you still have some edges left, find a hex-key that don't have a rounded tip.... that rounded tip on the more expansive ones did almost destroyed my screw. I found non rounded ones in one of those "cheap" multi-tool kits... Another tip would be to find a small enough torx key witch is also a common tip for damaged hex crews.... wonder if they make em that small though.
@jlee622
@jlee622 6 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan tnx for the tip. I think i totally stripped the tip. Since i had bh59 with rs 685? And replaced with bh90 with r8070, i opened and closed bleed screw at least 4 times during the learning curve. I mean replacing is one thing but how do i close it after final bleeding? It seems inevitable that i need to go get a new screw huh? Do u think normal bike shops in the us will have replaceable screws? Since r8070 parts r really hard to find due to low supply, i ordered from uk and germany and US shops. Smh about my dumbness and lack of skillset...
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would get a new screw just to be sure. If your LSB don'T have them in stock they can surly order them. The part number is Y0C698030. (Did a quick google search and there seem to be a few sites selling them) As I learned too, you don't actually need to close it that tight, the O-ring is what is keeping it from leaking. I mess up all the time, that's what we learn from :P I semi-striped one of my bleed screws, and order two new just to be safe. They are available online here in Japan.
@jlee622
@jlee622 6 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan tnx again for ur prompt answer. Just subscribed as well :) plz keep uploading DIY videos so i can learn more-!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathon Lee thanks man! Got a few tips to share in the pipeline :)
@theodoroschatzis6101
@theodoroschatzis6101 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! thanks for the video!! I get a firm leaver after bleeding but when I put the wheel back the leaver becomes loose again, how can I fix this?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Was it still firm directly after the bleed? and then got loose again? If it's loose right after bleeding there's probably still air in the system, so try blending again. If it was feeling ok but then got loose after a few hours check so that the hose connections are dry (no leaking) also check the caliper pistons if you see any leaking oil.
@theodoroschatzis6101
@theodoroschatzis6101 4 жыл бұрын
​@@ridesofjapan It was firm straight after the bleed when I removed the brake block and installed the wheel the leaver became a lot looser. is that normal?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Theodoros Chatzis yes, that is normal. once you remove the blocks and put the brake pads in and the wheel, you will need to pump the brake lever a few times to push the pistons out to the correct position. If you just keep pumping the lever you should feel them firm up again once the brake pads hits the rotors 👍
@AdamQueen
@AdamQueen 6 жыл бұрын
Did you found the hood a little loose? Or I'm just an unlucky guy? My R8070 right hood get loose just after I rolled the hood from front. Replaced with a new hood and everything is fine. Same happened for my old RS685 while it takes several months to happen.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Queen yeah, they tend to not be as tight after you pull it back the first time... not a big issue for me, they seem to “pop back” in to place one you start riding I’ve found. Not had the need to replace one yet.
@AdamQueen
@AdamQueen 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to know that, I'd ride hundreds kilos to see if it get better.
@shlongboy21
@shlongboy21 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful. Get rid if your speed/ cadence sensor though...looks cack.
@grosmorisse
@grosmorisse 6 жыл бұрын
did you use the full two bottles of fluid for the install? I'm starting with a dry system like you (with used parts) and I'm wondering how much fluid I should buy, and I still haven't found info on the volume of fluid the system contains
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Jean-François Morissette if you’re lucky you could get away with just one bottle, but I wouldn’t risk it... get two just in case, you will need it eventually when re-bleeding. Not very expensive either. Personally I got one of the big bottles, should last me a good couple of years :)
@grosmorisse
@grosmorisse 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the answer! I'll go with the bigger bottle then. cheers!
@Dust2dust02
@Dust2dust02 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of fluid?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Dust2dust02 Shimano only uses mineral oil
@truebaemiliano
@truebaemiliano 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, great videos! Do you know the size of the bolts for the rear caliper you use here? Im building the same canyon bike and I have the calper bolts from an older bike and I dont know if they will work! thanks in advance!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
EmiTT thanks! I don’t have that frame anymore, but I want to say the bolt where 30mm, not 100% sure though.... if they are too long you can always use shims.
@truebaemiliano
@truebaemiliano 6 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan Yes, shims could work indeed! I'm too in a road to Dura ace :) one last question, I'm using 9170 shifters but 805 calipers, any experience on that? Bh90 hose, olive and instert on caliper and shifters? Keep up with the videos, really good!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
+EmiTT I went all dura ace 9170 so have not tried that particular combination. A friend of mine use the 9170 shifters with non-series calipers and bh90 hoses, and I have not heard any complaints. Just make sure you have the correct inserts and olives for the hose.
@truebaemiliano
@truebaemiliano 6 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan yes, I'll put bh90 hose, insert and olives. Let's see. My worry was using bh90 olive in a bh59 caliper. Thanks!
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
EmiTT asked my friend again and he said it works no problem 👍
@Mackeem1
@Mackeem1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Why not wiping any fluid before putting the bleed screw back in? I always did that, whats wrong with it? Thanks in advance.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan Жыл бұрын
You basically want to have it overflowing as you close the bleed screw to prevent any air getting trapped.
@roghax85
@roghax85 5 жыл бұрын
Hello friend, I have a question: it's possible to install this levers hydro internal route handlebar aero?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
roghax85 it all depends on the handlebars. Check my latest video where I installed these in internal routed gravel bars for reference. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMtkid1zp9XSm3U.html
@roghax85
@roghax85 5 жыл бұрын
@@ridesofjapan awesome video, thanks man, I hope can copy your job with mine levers, hydro and mechanical shifter speed. Regards
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 5 жыл бұрын
roghax85 as long as you can fit both the hose and the shifter cable hosing through the openings it should be doable. Good luck!
@cuales1234
@cuales1234 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Beside Amazon, what online store do you recommend to buy the parts? (DURA-ACE DI2 9170)
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 3 жыл бұрын
You're local bike store :) Shimano is Geo blocked so I can't get any shimano products shipped from any online store outside of Japan.
@Horstelin
@Horstelin 6 жыл бұрын
Did you fit the Di2 cable through the same opening as the brake hoses? Thinking about converting a mechanical canyon endurance to Di2 ... I won't think the cable will fit through the gear cable openings.
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Horstelin This frame was di2 specific and was made to take the brake hose and the di2 cable through the same hole with a combo-insert.
@Horstelin
@Horstelin 6 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan ah ok I guess I will have to solder to make it fit... Too bad those R8020 STIs are so damn bulky
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Horstelin oh wait a minute! I confused this with another frame I had! There was a separate port for the di2 on this endurace, but I manage to get both the hose and the di2 cable through the same hole by modifying the frame insert... just needed to make the “slit” in the inserts big enough to squeeze the di2 cable in. Unfortunately I don’t have this frame anymore so can’t show exactly how I did it.
@Horstelin
@Horstelin 6 жыл бұрын
That are great news, thank you! I guess I need to start saving for the new groupset.. :)
@dansotelo228
@dansotelo228 5 жыл бұрын
Don't mean to cut down di2 I think their shifting system is great. But if you have an older bike with out the wire plumbing ports, just go Sram wireless e-tap, and while you're at it go WiFli. No wires no battery containers "NADA PINATA", just clean as a whistle.
@alebart2493
@alebart2493 4 жыл бұрын
Do you really need to fill the system with oil to the top ? With the older génération (R785) if you did this the oil would leak somewhere to prevent overfilling
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 4 жыл бұрын
Yes to avoid having air in the system you need to fill it to the top (into the funnel)
@alebart2493
@alebart2493 4 жыл бұрын
@@ridesofjapan okay thank you !
@whogotthepropz
@whogotthepropz 7 жыл бұрын
とてもわかりやすいです!!ブレーキホースを変えたらキャリパーだけsaint820っていうのも可能ですよね??
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 7 жыл бұрын
+Ride Lines ありがとうございました! 自分は試したことないから、可能と言えないですが、Saint820もsm-bh90のホースを使ってるので、多分大丈夫だと思います。
@whogotthepropz
@whogotthepropz 7 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan 返信ありがとうございます!この動画でも同じブレーキホース使ってるのですか? ロードバイクの油圧ホースってガツンと効かないように柔らかめのブレーキホースを使ってると聞いたのですが、本当ですか?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 7 жыл бұрын
そうですね。ホース自体は同じですがSaint820のコネクターが違いますね。
@whogotthepropz
@whogotthepropz 6 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan 色々詳しく教えていただきありがとうございます! とても参考になりました!
@jacobmortensen3875
@jacobmortensen3875 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, how often do you change brake hose when first installed ?
@ridesofjapan
@ridesofjapan 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Unless I'm changing shifters or calipers, I would never change the brake hoses. I would however bleed the brakes about once per year or if the lever starts feeling weird.
@adamkubiak1933
@adamkubiak1933 4 жыл бұрын
Rides of Japan great video. My question: I’m upgrading my levers&calipers. Would you change hoses in this instance? They are ca. Year old and in perfect condition. What say you?
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