"Immortal L" pretty much describes my FPV career 😂
@DuckyRC5 жыл бұрын
But do you still have fun???
@LandonCramer5 жыл бұрын
@@DuckyRC heck yeah I do, there's a lot of hiccups in FPV, but it's super fun and super useful for what I do.
@DuckyRC5 жыл бұрын
@@LandonCramer That's all that matters ;)
@randomperson77484 жыл бұрын
Haha. One of the better comments on yt.
@2strokeme645 жыл бұрын
A peice of heat shrink over the stand off before you mount gives the zip ties more bite, keeps them from sliding up or down the stand off
@DOOMRiderfpv5 жыл бұрын
I set my tbs source ones like this and I’ve gone 1.5miles out on 100mw no problem 👍🏼👍🏼
@jacobdimick70705 жыл бұрын
What FC are you using? I have the same setup, using the micro TX and my rssi seems to randomly drop and come back when I'm only a few hundred feet away. It's never lost signal, but my OSD and taranis qx7 always whines about signal being weak.
@DOOMRiderfpv5 жыл бұрын
Make sure rssi is set to lq on crossfire. And aux is on 8
@jacobdimick70705 жыл бұрын
@@DOOMRiderfpv already have that done (I'll double check though) . It seems to be reading it correctly, it just seems to fluctuate when close a lot more than I would expect
@feelmyola5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobdimick7070 did you mod your QX7?
@jacobdimick70705 жыл бұрын
@@feelmyola yes
@danlangston40745 жыл бұрын
Been mounting my antennas this way ever sense I saw you do it back before crossfire. Never had a problem.
@88Nikoli5 жыл бұрын
10mm c'mon Steele you can do better than that more like 4mm , there's 25.4 mm per inch so 1/32 is just a tiny bit under 1mm ! Nice work though ! 😎
@whereverimayroam742 жыл бұрын
lol. Steel is an American. I give him mad props for even acknowledging metric.
@Aantisocial805 жыл бұрын
I use the L for long range and works perfectly 👌👌👌 I was driving in the 400 hwy yesterday night an a lotus pass me over and I memorized the license plate number after that I checked the Instagram and yep that was you
@MSR.5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing your way, it really helps even if it’s something simple, your build formula has made my Fpv experience so much easier and just flies amazing. Thank you 👍
@Jydotix5 жыл бұрын
I also use the immortal L configuration and have gone pretty far (1km in the city) and had no issues behind buildings :) Immortal L FTW!
@mxp64665 жыл бұрын
Thanks for what youre doing with your setups in FPV. I built a full kiss'd out setup, and everything is just so simple. I don't see a reason to really fly anything else when this just works.
@elis515015 жыл бұрын
Dude Your the MJ (showing my age, but still relevant) of fpv, any thing that you have tried and works is good enough for all of us novice pilots:) 👊🏽
@MrSteeleFPV5 жыл бұрын
👊🏼
@elis515015 жыл бұрын
I suppose it would be the same for the frsky R9m receiver antennas. And have you been given an impulserc Apex frame to try out? Or do they (Impulserc) even bother because your an Alien guy? (I have 4 Aliens:)
@Jamesn-js1zp5 жыл бұрын
Been using the "L" ever since TBS was introduced in the market and have never had an issue. Only use an Immortal "T" on my long range and it's mounted high and vertical. I think too many over think something that's so simple, it's not rocket science how the two types of antennas work best.
@AnthonyTeasdale5 жыл бұрын
I do this method on my Acrobrat frame. Works very well!
@cyclopsfpv79695 жыл бұрын
I used to do this all the time..Worked fantastic. I Should start doing it again..
@Mikechin5175 жыл бұрын
less than 90* will hurt the signal, just a heads up, so you want 90*+ if youre going to use this route. but i use it on my steez
@ContagiousIdeal5 жыл бұрын
Love you longtime, spread the good word
@riggermortisfpv5265 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this when looking at the T, I thought "there has to be a better setup for FS than the T" thanks for the video, I already mount rx antenna with zip ties and heat shrink, this should come naturally.
@dronimik5 жыл бұрын
I broke mine a lot of times mounted at the back similar to this. I like the antennas out of the side, protected by the arms. It doesn't give you the best reception, but is pretty robust that way.
@lutchorfpv18715 жыл бұрын
Flying "Immortal L" for over a year now and had zero issues
@MrSteeleFPV5 жыл бұрын
👊🏼
@angrykiwi63605 жыл бұрын
I just had some of these weird servo tubes lying around from an old plane. Just put the antennas in them and zip tied and taped them to my frame. Never chopped an antenna since.
@jackdaniels79135 жыл бұрын
Well thank you for addressing this particular predicament, so simple but hearing it from a "prow" means a lot and I hope to see a TBS or VAS version with the stiff wire the original immortal T is made of. 🥃cheers🍻
@WildpixFPV5 жыл бұрын
Tried it several times, but you gave me the missing link to perfection: The upright ziptie being "unzipped"! Thanks, Steele! :)
@MrSteeleFPV5 жыл бұрын
Haha. Missing link :). I had a sweet mental image
@WildpixFPV5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSteeleFPV Yep, I am that nice, big guy sitting in front of his favorite toy (now don't get the wrong one here lol) that you saw there! That FPT(hought) reiception works good, Mr. Steele! xD
@rhinosaur61005 жыл бұрын
I've been doing this since your first video, with sbus receivers. I continued to do it when I switched all my receivers to crossfire. I flew in between one and one and a half miles away, with no issues . I couldn't go any farther out, because I was only using a 1300 mah lipo.
@HDgodfrey5 жыл бұрын
Damn Steele, looking beast! Just super grateful for all your hard work making this easier for us all! Keep up the great work and if ever in VA near Virginia Tech come fly the farm!
@brokemechanicfpv14205 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks Steele 👍
@lukekellyfpv14645 жыл бұрын
Started doing that method when everybody was running XSR, I remember you and finalglide sharing that zip tie technique as a little special sauce for durability. I seem to use immortal t’s when I can but this is good for those frames where it just doesn’t make sense. Great vid
@feelmyola5 жыл бұрын
Steele! Why couldn't you have uploaded this 3 days ago! I just got my Crossfire tx. I have the Immortal T on a vertical 3d printed mount but once I get back to more close range flying I'm definitely using this setup. Thanks dude!
@moidfpv5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, Steele! I am upgrading to CRSF as well and was just pondering how to mount the antenna! Perfect timing, and super helpful!!
@PIDtoolbox5 жыл бұрын
I think the L works better for mid-range flying where your copter might be at many different orientations relative to the transmitter.
@boratsagdiyev15865 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, i get 99% Rssi and 60 when i make a turn, reason: T-antenna horizontal, but vertical mounting would give the same problem but then on another axis XD
@james_brooke5 жыл бұрын
Thanks just made one after chopping up the immortal T today.
@Dav21125 жыл бұрын
Nice tip Steele, two of my Immortal T antennas have been chewed up by my props, I was just going to replace them for new ones but I have a bunch of stock Crossfire antennas so I’m just going to do what you’ve done here. Thanks man. 🙂
@MrVopt2 жыл бұрын
I’d call that “ground plane” a “counterpoise”. Solid design from a ham radio perspective.
@connormullan5 жыл бұрын
I find that sometimes when i crash one of the antennas sometimes gets thrown into the props and the antenna gets cut - i put a straw around the antenna and then heat shrink that to a fat cable tie - haven’t had any issues since with prop strike
@davidgeemuthafuka5 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking of this the other day. Thanks for figuring it out for me Steele 🤗
@ARI3S5 жыл бұрын
Sweet explanation for new people getting into the hobby ✌️😎
@maxiemusfpv1985 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaaayyyym Steele is working out hard
@1988gellertgal5 жыл бұрын
More precisely the heat shrink is a 4mm->1mm :D thanks for the video 👍
@dannyfpv61565 жыл бұрын
Great Tips Thanks!!
@oldcrowfpv5 жыл бұрын
I have mine set up very similar , mine runs out the top of the bottom plate and is laying horizontal Immortal L style straight out the back, angled just slightly down . not enough to effect how the quad sits on the ground. I haven't had problems with it. But i don't fly long range . Thanks for sharing your Technic.
@gregstewart46925 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr Steele
@nara44205 жыл бұрын
The flat dipole from the Immortal-T is also not perfect (if not couppled right) because it has more like 75ohms and the L-shape could be even better because closer to 50ohms. I think L-shape is a good idea.
@pavawarez88255 жыл бұрын
Until you realise he made a directional vertical. Perfect for flying away, not so great flying towards yourself.
Pretty much the only sensible antenna placement, crossfire or not. Been doing it this way since the beginning of my builds.
@taterchipfpv91625 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@nom4dmkd5 жыл бұрын
Why you don't ask for any money or support/patreon whatever, only a thumbs up. Here you go ! :)
@railinrob5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Props to your cameraman lol
@railinrob5 жыл бұрын
@@smooth_ops2942 not me, I've never met steele in person.
@TheBer7y5 жыл бұрын
Been doing an L config myself didn't know you run it too , a very nice
@thorstenferstl23665 жыл бұрын
Yep yep... it just works that way! 👍
@xgoodvibesx5 жыл бұрын
If you use clear heat shrink it lets you see any damage that might occur to the antenna. I've had them break in the heatshrink before and been wondering why I was getting such shitty reception while I was running an active element a couple of mm's long 😁
@ThatViralspot5 жыл бұрын
Monday I had my first fail safe and broke an arm im finally sold.
@prrcpor5 жыл бұрын
I make 915 transmitter antennas and reciever antennas
@prrcpor5 жыл бұрын
I'll tell ya what I didn't get good range with was the tbs crossfire diamond antenna. My homade antennas work better. I do full range tests as well
@Catiadr5 жыл бұрын
You said head shrink and I imagined a shrunken head on your kwad... Thanks for the laugh!
@accordkilla92445 жыл бұрын
I don't got crossfire just a flysky and I put my antennas the same way out the back and I've gone 2 1/2 miles it works for me
@minkorrh4 жыл бұрын
I have mine mounted in the common way under one rear arm and I tend to get failsafes at what would be considered relatively short distances. I think this is a better configuration as the antenna will be visible to the transmitter whatever angle it's at. Inline with the body is too easy to be blocked in certain positions.
@boratsagdiyev15865 жыл бұрын
I have this on my whoop and never had issues with a cheap FLI14+. I made my dipole antenna from Frsky on another quad with "diy" T made of tubes, mounted horizontally under the back arms. Whenenver i turn 90 degree left or right it dips drastically, now i've mounted it in an L-shape like this just a few hours ago coincidentally because of the same reasons and landing also. But my friend had a trauma today with his fli14+ and a cygnet, failsafe with 53% Rssi. Seems like i'm lucky with the whoop and got it down to 20's and not failsafed so far. I shouldnt say this but if you wanna see his crash i just uploaded it.
@KeumbitDaddy5 жыл бұрын
I recommend use the polyurethane tube. it's safe from your prop. :)
@TheJayLeHol5 жыл бұрын
That doormat workbench is tight
@crstfr63905 жыл бұрын
Your word is IMMORTAL 👌👍
@stouthearttrt11795 жыл бұрын
Awesome info man!
@stouthearttrt11795 жыл бұрын
John Hoover I always scan through videos first. Lol.
@Lylelee124 жыл бұрын
Do you run your transmitter antenna vertically with this setup?
@rid3withthewindvaj1315 жыл бұрын
TBS needs to make it. I'll buy!
@UnrulyRotors5 жыл бұрын
They do. Look for Micro Vee, I think it was, on their website
@rid3withthewindvaj1315 жыл бұрын
@@UnrulyRotors ok thanks
@rid3withthewindvaj1315 жыл бұрын
@@UnrulyRotors Yeah but I like it to be 90 degrees vee lol
@juggalizzle755 жыл бұрын
Isn't that antenna a dipole? Which is supposed to be straight? I guess crossfire is good enough to handle the reduction in link quality. I'm sure trappy is extremely happy right about now fielding questions about making this. They already have a "micro V" which might produce better results and is a premade option.
@LivyuFPV5 жыл бұрын
ahahah I told Trappy long ago to make an L shaped Immortal :P I do mines like this also cause i feel that vertical helps more in my flying.
@MCsCreations5 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice, dude! 😃 I hope TBS hears you!
@allennickles39705 жыл бұрын
I actually copied the Imortal 'L' off you a long time ago. Watching your video's over a year ago...when i first started running crossfire. And it has worked beautifully so far. I also use the Imortal 'T' as well. But cant tell any difference range wise? Both configuration's have flown the same distance. Cool little set up video😀
@boratsagdiyev15865 жыл бұрын
Hej dont you notice more drops in RSSI with Immortal T when you're turning and facing the antenna ends.
@ThatFlyinRyan5 жыл бұрын
Daaaayyyyyaaaaaammmmmmm all that climbing is paying off looking buff 💪 af there yoo!
@FAB11505 жыл бұрын
15mm heatshrink is quite big
@slipperysebastian5 жыл бұрын
Can you not just use a immortal t and mount it in the same way and bend up the part sticking down to make a actual immortal t “L”? That what I did with a Brocken t antenna worked good
@boogiefpv19825 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 4 this vlog
@mrzon93445 жыл бұрын
Thanks - for us metric people 3/32" = 2.4mm
@joehamon95705 жыл бұрын
I’ve always done the exact same stock antenna is RF wise it’s just as good if Steele would just drop his stand-off height To 25mm an go mini cam it helps with cg an brings the alien up to par with all present day quads it’s still one of the best flyin quad
@ZylonFPV5 жыл бұрын
Does the L compared to T cause any signal loss? I know with FrSky it is recommended to use antennas at 90 degrees to each other and I thought that a T shape was the recommended setup for crossfire. I know you say that you’ve not had any issues which is cool, but it would be good to know the official response 🙂
@twistedsocal5 жыл бұрын
according to trappy and also everything known about how rf works, yes it will effectively reduce range and reception quality, however, crossfire is nothing short of bad ass and is self healing and able to identify and adjust to noise and interference ( that's what they say and I haven't been able to prove otherwise) so unless you are flying something a bit larger than a 5 inch or are trying to get some crazy penetration beyond what Steel does(I don't dare try to do half the shit he does regularly for fear of failsafe) you would be hard pressed to ever notice any loss of range.
@WillyFPV3 жыл бұрын
Thanksman !
@TheVonny775 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’m just wondering... when u were a fpv beginner.. how many quads did you go through, to get to being good?
@TheVonny775 жыл бұрын
I was thinking on getting one of ur quads. But being a high school student, and the fact that it’s not cheap, not sure weather I should grab a $100 practice quad first?
@MrStronggMusic5 жыл бұрын
TheVonny77 watch his how to fpv series playlist and that’ll get you going fast while being efficient with your money
@twistedsocal5 жыл бұрын
@@TheVonny77 Dude, get a bnf micro(2 or 3 inch) like an Emax babyhawk r pro or even just the babyhawk r, or diatone r90 or even something like an et115 cause they will still fly 3s packs and the et115 v2 is pretty durable short of getting caught in a tree, trying to spin it out will toast motors and can cook the 4 in 1 esc but crashes be damned, the thing doesn't want to break. The babyhawk r 3 inch is quite the beast, hauls major ass and is great fun to fly, the r pro flys better probably cause of the f4 FC. Plus any of the smaller quads that weigh in at less than 250 grams don't need to be registered with the FAA and you don't have to notify air traffic control as long as you don't fly above 400 feet or directly in the line of the runway for a mile or so either direction, I live near a major airport so when I fly my smaller quads I don't bother making the call since they told me I didn't need to, when I fly my 5 inch I do make the call before to let them know when and where and for how long and what celling height and then have to call after to let them know I'm done. Needless to say, I tend to fly my sub 250 gram quads more often cause not that calling is a pain but sometimes I just want to fly right then and it's easier plus if a cop tried to give me shit I can pull up the airports web site which I have saved and also the FAA regulations and pretty much tell him that I have gotten the ok from anyone in the vacinity and basically tell him to go fuck himself as I am doing nothing wrong and am not required by any law or regulation to do anything differently. Not in those words but the meaning is always loud and clear
@snfn78475 жыл бұрын
Any chance of an Ethix motor sold with a white stator and black bell combo? Would be nice they fly great
@MrSteeleFPV5 жыл бұрын
I can look into that
@gmivisualsjason37294 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@ruffy2k35 жыл бұрын
Destroyed my immortal-t, so i will try this! :) Thanks! Steele, i've build your 4S quad back in nov '18 and chose your PIDs in the KISS dropdown menu and it flew just awesome, wow! Now, a few months later, i picked your PIDs in the dropdown again and saved..without saving my prior PIDs. -.- Stupid me, since it seems like most values changed and my quad doesn't feel that reliable any more. In addition my motors get warm (which they never didn't with the old pids) and the batteries warmer than before. Which PIDs are actually the best for your 4S setup? ^^ Thanks in advance!
@axelfischer3765 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gr52qKZnqZ7de6c.html That are steeles PIDs :)
@MrSteeleFPV5 жыл бұрын
Yeah man. Grab my PIDs online :). They aren’t a secret Enjoy :)
@ugpfpv3615 жыл бұрын
@@MrSteeleFPV where are your latest rates, though... I see them in this pids video but thought you used to have your current setting listed somewhere before....
@ruffy2k35 жыл бұрын
Thank you two!
@ceasarswain45305 жыл бұрын
Top spot..I am the man...give my girl heather a shout out...
@divingfalconfpv46023 жыл бұрын
trying to decide keep diversity crossfire receiver micro antennas or swap for immortal T v2. for a long range quad
@renegadefpv33465 жыл бұрын
Bro you got everyone asking trappy for one now lmao
@jcgandiaga5 жыл бұрын
You got that Puerto Rican glow!!!
@glytch5 Жыл бұрын
once you make this antenna and hold it... there is a very close similarity to what TBS is selling called micro vee...
@osunacampeon5 жыл бұрын
Hi steele!!! How would you Mount a Second antenna if you had a diversity reciever? I run r9 and they have 2 antenna. Thanks man
@twistedsocal5 жыл бұрын
there is a diversity Rx for crsf as well, since you have 2 just make 2 of these and mount them out each side, the only place the antenna has a null is directly out of the tip, if you have one out each side the times when you are in one antenna null the other antenna is in a prime angle for reception.
@MrSteeleFPV5 жыл бұрын
Same way just sideways
@garylawrence4youtub5 жыл бұрын
Always a problem, trying it 👍👍😎🤙
@dronereaper7725 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! Me Steele putting on muscle 💪keep up the Great work 💯
@kastyh-fpv5 жыл бұрын
You will never change the frame?
@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO5 жыл бұрын
i leave a comment mr steeve ....not cause i use corssfire , but just cause i did not comment in a long time ...just say hi !!!
@DangerDavefpv5 жыл бұрын
I would like to have just crossfire for my tarantis x9d lol..oh well xm+ best I can afford
@UnrulyRotors5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the micro vee or whatever? Basically the same thing but already made this way.
@Jronesfpv5 жыл бұрын
set mine up like that a few times
@NotJustinFPV5 жыл бұрын
Ground plane?!? Cut that off, We don’t need no stinkin ground plane, we are flipping in the air!
@shatterpointgames3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@DeanChapmanFPV5 жыл бұрын
Will you fly 1 mile away with immortal L ?
@mikebergman18175 жыл бұрын
Hey Steele, like many, you’ve inspired me to start flying fpv. I kind of stopped flying line of sight around 5 years ago, when I started my business and didn’t have any time fly. I was excited and motivated until a few days ago when I heard about new laws being put into place for drone flying. For us guys who are on the edge, ready to drop some money into a good setup, do you have any insight into how any of the new laws would effect us? If you have any insight, it would be great to hear it from the legend, Mr Steele..
@twistedsocal5 жыл бұрын
like fpvtutor said, it's all about the sub 250 gram (pretty much all 3 inch and smaller quads) if you don't want to have to register or get permission to fly, still have to be mindful of any actual full size air traffic and can't be flying over people or stadium while people are going to be there or have just left and need to stay under 400 feet etc but the micro quads have next to no other rules aside from common sense and courtesy basics that anything jamming through the air with spinning blades that can injure others or yourself should have.
@Braindog5 жыл бұрын
Like i do with my 2.3" and 3" Quads in Germany. Same here everything under 250grams can be flown without license. But respect "No Flightzones" like near an Airport or Nature Reserve.
@DavidHanniganJr3 жыл бұрын
Actually, would you still be bugging him about them, if you were not using Tracer?
@vizzuleyes5 жыл бұрын
Awesome info. Thanks
@Mark-pb6nq5 жыл бұрын
So I got the Taranis QX7S with the r9m module. Now lower frequencies are better at penetratring objects, so I think that using it for freestyle would benefit you if you fly around a lot of objects. But when I google around nobody really mentions that and only uses it for longer ranges. Is it worth switching to a r9m receiver even if you don't fly that far out but you're just flying in and around a lot of objects?
@SiNFPVGUAM5 жыл бұрын
I also run immoral "L". But my method was a bit different.
@rival64155 жыл бұрын
Ive been settin up my antennas like this since the beginning lol, just askin where are the Silk V2's? kinda burnt one out a couple of days ago
@MrSteeleFPV5 жыл бұрын
Soon :)).
@MichaelBeckerMusic3 жыл бұрын
With this antenna orientation on the quad what would be the best transmitter antenna orientation? Horizonal? Vertical? Thanks in advance.
@doncunningham31242 жыл бұрын
I currently have the same question in mind. Did you find the answer yet? Please advise if you have. Many thanks
@sully48753 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@stickboyfpv47425 жыл бұрын
Just put it strait under an arm.. easy peasy and you can either rip the bandos OR take er out 2km.. You still the man though🤙
@twistedsocal5 жыл бұрын
much more likely to have a random failsafe having it running along the arm since the arm is carbon fiber and causes issues with RF. I use bottom mount batteries so I run an immortal T but have it almost an inch below my arm and the actual antenna is running perpendicular to the arm so the cross of the t is the only spot near the arm and still spaced far enough I don't ever have issues.
@stickboyfpv47425 жыл бұрын
@@twistedsocal yeah my bad perpendicular under the arm I meant!
@twistedsocal5 жыл бұрын
@@stickboyfpv4742 lol alright, was curious how you were doing it and not getting some sort of decreased range otherwise