Yea that shit would've pissed me off

I mean that’s foreshadowing for the final mission and in Dutch’s eyes, he’s not wrong.

"You're the type," that really gets me there. It's like, how does he see the world to say that about the first kid he took in and kept around and raised like a son for 20 years, and still want him around AFTER admitting that thought?

@@jessicamaccabe7051 Honestly, that shocked me the first time he said it to me on my first play through. It made me wonder if that was foreshadowing or not and it ended up being foreshadowing. Dutch’s mind wasn’t exactly the most stable after the Blackwater Massacre is the reason why he said that as well.

@@-lumbago-3102 yeah, I was lucky enough to hear it the first playthrough too and by that point you knew he was going down hill

@Mr. Obunga disconnected? Rockstar choosing big voice actors doesnt mean it would be woree

@Mr. Obunga ohhhh yh that does make sense. I like how R* choose not very well known actors

Shouldnta liked it cos then it would be 69

Its like a life in a game

"Okay catch you later then"

He tried everything he can he started very angry on everthing he cannot let nothinf stand on his way to his plans

Don’t worry, he’s got a plan

@@StinkyPerfume69 yeah thats the promblem he got a plan but not brains

But he said, was.

In my opinion Dutch lost his mind after Saint Denis robbery because hosea died and after the robbery he thinks arthur and John told Pinkertons about robbery

He has tb

joku animsツ ah my bad i meant dutch😅

@@Sifolw oh cuz hes gone crazy mb

joku animsツ Ayeeeee!!! Didn’t think i’d see you here lmao

@@Jc-587 Ayy wassup 😂lmao

Genius

The chapters also seem to represent different stages of grief from denial to acceptance.

Also in each camp Arthur tent gets further away

@@nomnom9992 why

@@nomnom9992 Well no exacly, in shadybelle he doesn't even have tent. I think you are looking for something that just isn't there, although the degradation of the camp is and I noticed that too and it's not any hidden knowledge, everybody notices that, even gang members in the game.

Noise, my friend, noise

I remember that aswell I was confused of why he said it

@@thomasstanley3344 yeah,i didnt understand why he said this,maybe he realy are crazy.

@@cssbr3191 suppose it was just a clue of what would happen at the end idk

@@thomasstanley3344 yeah it is more problably. But it is very strange.

@@thomasstanley3344 funny it was dutch who betrayed arthur

I preferred chapter 4 coz it’s a house and there was a glitch to get to new Austin with Arthur in that chapter

@@pcs6905 but Sean is dead

I think I ended up doing more optional things as the chapters went on and the camp got more and more depressing. I started to dread going back and wanted to just let Arthur ride around and do things for other people before his inevitable end.

Arthur seems to just follow Durch since he trust him, he also doesn't want to get on his bad side.

Actually, if you donate $600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, to camp in one day you can.

@@chiefchief2871 I literally donated 5000 dollars and he said he needed more money

@@siradmin6791 5000 dollars isn't enough to buy a Mango farm, you fool

so random and quirky 5000$ with today’s inflation is about 155299$ so it’s plenty enough and even back then when Tahiti was just a poor French colony I’m sure a piece land would set back you back 50-10 dollars maybe

@@tahamohammad1741 just like 600 dollars is 600 dollars today 5 dollars is 5 dollars back then

fira weheart after the last train robbery I got nothing no money all or it was when we attacked the Cornwall kerosene and tar and we stole the bonds I really firget

@@Toviyah it's the bonds. I remember because the game insultingly reminded me that gang members get paid for contributing in the heists yet Arthur got nothing.

Blueleaf sorry for my miss spelling in the last comment but could explain what your trying to say to what I comment

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@@Toviyah the raid on the Cornwall place where the gang gets the bonds is where Arthur doesn't get paid his cut.

Lmao

This is underrated in a good way.

I agree Dutch didn't really care about Arthur as a son.

@@bonniemacfarlane6709 At least not until it was FAAAAR too late.

Arthur says in his diary he loved Hosea a little more than Dutch.

I interpreted that as Dutch merely parodying the facade.

@Bonnie MacFarlane I don't think that's it. I think Dutch just isn't as smart as he thinks he is. He's all intellect no wisdom. He memorises philosophy and high fallutin rhetoric, but doesn't really understand it. He takes it all on surface level. A man whose mind is as wide as a lake but as shallow as a puddle. Jim Milton matches him in an argument, something I doubt he's ever had happen before. Bronte sees right through him and immediately knows how to manipulate him. Dutch is a charismatic con man, and not much more. For a long time, I think even he bought into his con. When that con failed, he had a crisis of identity, and of confidence.

ORTHOR

....he specifically never told Micah about where the money was.

Yeah brother

well if you didn't betray me!..and john didn't betray me just cause he wanted to have a little life with his family..cause his son is more important than say..bill!..and that dog probaly betrayed me also cain

@@dutchvanderlinde2488 You hurt me a lot, Dutch. But Micah was the rat of the band , almost everyone died because of him , and yet you prefer him to Arthur and me

What did I walk into?

@@dutchvanderlinde2488 after all them years ya think I betrayed ya Hell the dog was more loyal than that rat Micah

She was actually one of the best characters in the game. Better than half the Gang

@GTA and Apple channel they dont have the hidden dialogue gta 5 has

@@mikemiter6088 well the one of the devs said there are still secrets in gta 5 still not found

Rockstar are well known for these kind of stuff, that's why their games are one of the best of all time

Not really all that secret tbh

I know it should have been a tie

@@moe9451 not even close don't get me wrong RDR2 is fcking awsome and etc but game of the year? Yea nah their r drastically better games out their then just RDR2

@@missfortunez3737 lol god of war 4 and rdr2 tied but rdr2 lose sadly

@David Green why do you think that, may I ask?

@@soggybiscuito1505 he thinks that because kratos wasn't a bloodthirsty psychopath in the new game.

what tahiti does to a mf

Evelyn Miller even says to John when he mentions that Dutch was a huge lover of his books that “your friend was deceived.” Miller sees himself as a con artist, I wonder if Dutch felt the same way about himself. Maybe he did have genuine and noble goals to begin with, but his entire worldview got more and more pessimistic as he began to realise that he was a man in a world that had no use for him.

Man this is *Deep*

Got that convo then passed by Duth again after 10 min he says "You gonna betray me"...

Maybe he was always crazy but he was good at repressing it until he became more and more desperate.

I think he is mostly decent, to the gang at least, at the beginning of the game. But Arthur and Hosea do chat about Dutch not being himself from even before the beginning of the game, he shoots an innocent woman during the Blackwater heist and no matter how it was dressed up, Dutch went and started on the O'Driscolls first after they attack their camp at lake Isobella. Arthur and Hosea agree its abnormal to the way Dutch usually acted.

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

What do you mean?

(Sorry guys I’ve been super busy😅) I’m specifically talking about 7:01. I don’t get why Dutch would say that. Especially at such an early part in the game. To me, in chapters 1-3, I felt like Dutch and Arthur were tight. When things when to shit I can see why Dutch kinda went crazy. But things were kind of good at 7:01.

For DutchI just never saw Dutch saying something like that at his prime

Hey, i used watch your asmr video

Dutch was never good. He was a bad man that did good things and he fooled everyone into thinking he was good. In the end he just became more of his true self

@@josephstalin2606 Ah, says Joseph Stalin.

@@phillipwalling7470 It takes a bad man to know one

@@josephstalin2606 Whatever you say.

@@josephstalin2606 Yes Dutch Is Bad, He Was Using Arthur But In The End When Arthur Become Weak Than Dutch Left Him To Die

😂

He’s very interesting. If you’ve ever seen point break he reminds me alot of the leader of that gang. They rob banks to maintain their “free” lifestyle and believe the ones in power are corrupted and that man should live free and do what he wants. Dutch is the same way. He’s a true believer of his cause but knows that if he can’t leave the country he’ll die in it but not before causing as much chaos and destruction before he goes out. As he said in the first game, it’s in his nature to fight and rebel against everything. Also, Dutch is the only one in the gang that actively chose to be an outlaw when he had the opportunity to be anything else, whereas everyone else joined Dutch because they were at rock bottom and were either going to die miserably like that or go with Dutch and become an outlaw. It’s funny too because John and Arthur always wanted to be something other than outlaws but that life chose them, but Dutch was the one that actually made the choice and chose to be an outlaw

Yeah, that's when it went from Dutch might be crazy to Dutch just doesn't care about us anymore.

Arthur's delivery was golden too, this clearly isn't the first time they've had this conversation 😂

this is what makes this game so special , this game is not just another game about heroes or something , its a game about facing reality , people dont act badass or tough in this game , you can actually feel characters in this game are not rambo , this game is a philosophical thinking about life

He wants blind followers, the people in his camp were independent thinkers who actually wanted what was best, even if it went against Dutch's deluded orders.

Dutch was never stable... He just pretended he was. That kind behaviour and thinking everyone will betray him makes sense - even as early as Chapter 3. He always told people what they wanted to hear - or tried. Him saying that to Arthur was a moment when he said what he really felt.

JW Makes I don’t think so... I feel as though Dutch, when everything is not going his way is when he breaks down and becomes unstable. But as Dutch is a confident leader, this usually never happens. Even though Dutch had another gang in RDR1 I feel as though that was himself grasping at what he once had, and his increase in murders was simply due to his unstableness. Chapter 1,2,3 he is always confident in his ability to escape, but chapter 4 he BEGINS to become afraid of the idea he will let his family down, and be abandoned. Dutch attempts to justify every bad action he does, as that is his coping mechanism, so that he still believes he is a good man. I don’t think this is unstable, but human. When he loses everything, he doesn’t care about trying to be a good man who does bad things for the right reasons, he only cares about surviving, and yet is when everyone’s true “monster” comes out. I think type beauty of this message by rockstar, is that Dutch had his own laws and morals, and was therefore in his own right “civilised” as was the whole gang (other than Micah) and those whom where the defenders of civilisation drove Dutch to becoming the animal he is in RDR1. This is amazing, as Dutch said that the world he no longer free, and since himself and his gang did not fit in the norms of the ideal civilised person, Dutch had to die, and therefore his freedom is taken away to be who he wants to be, or live how he wants to live. This is also his downfall, his stubbornness toward change. Dutch, to me, his story is a tragedy.

No I think he is more intriguing this way.

I really Love ♥️ it. Dutch is a sneaky manipulative bastard. I love him for it. ♥️🖤

No not really you don't really get to speak to Javier in guarma you break him out and pretty much go back to America after that

@@jackbrsf I always felt like that part was so short

@@boringperson-zb8vy I see what you mean but I think it's perfect because there isn't much more they could of done to guarma

>:( ew a rat

toilet paper STOP EVERYBODY THAT I AM A FUCKING RAT

ew a rat

Dutch: " *Do you have the money?* " Arthur: "We got it sir" Dutch: "Good that's one less loose end" 🔫 *Bang* *bang*

_Hella Sarcastic_ :))))))

Kinda like me

I had a stroke trying to read this

Leviticus Cornwall me too

Is this supposed to be English?