Dutchware Chameleon VS. Warbonnet Blackbird XLC

Dutchware Chameleon VS. Warbonnet Blackbird XLC - Comparing/Contrasting

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7 жыл бұрын

*UPDATE (10/9/17) - Warbonnet has redesigned the XLC, it now comes with SEVERAL new features. Check it out:
www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/pro...
*UPDATE (8/28/17) - The Chameleon now comes in a double layer!
We are spoiled to have owned and used both the DW chameleon, as well as the Warbonnet blackbird XLC. A lot of people ask us to compare the two, as they are some of the most popular cottage vendor hammocks on the market.
Make no mistake, you can't go wrong with either of these hammocks. However, there are some stark differences to the two that may cater to different types. There are also a lot of similarities. Check them out!
Warbonnet Blackbird XLC:
www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/pro...
DW Chameleon:
dutchwaregear.com/chameleon-h...
Our in-depth review on the DW Chameleon (Warbonnet review coming shortly!)
• Dutchware Chameleon Ha...

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@Michael-zh2cu 4 жыл бұрын

As of 2020 you can buy the winter topcover separately for the warbonnet blackbird XLC (and Eldorado). Also you can change lay direction now.

@xdmkii 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks for taking the time to explain this. I've been going to both companies for years.

@BrianSniatkowski 6 жыл бұрын

Good video. I currently have the Warbonnet XLC and love it. I started hearing so many good things about the Chamelion that I was wondering what I was missing and thinking about buying one to see. Your video saved me $200, because the few advantages are things that are of limited or no importance to me. BTW, with the latest version of the XLC, you can buy the winter cover later. You no longer have to buy it at the same time as the hammock

@valentinoaustin4433 2 жыл бұрын

InstaBlaster.

@keithpederson3629 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, I've been looking at both of these for awhile now, do you notice any calve ridge in either one? My current hammock is terrible for a calve ridge down the middle. Nice shirt, I have the same one.

@allemander 6 жыл бұрын

You mentioned that the short, dangling outer ribbon strip on the XLC is for the Wooki UQ (how?), but isn’t it intended to be used just for tying up the bug net when it’s unzipped along one side and rolled back out of the way?

@pyromaniac1491 7 жыл бұрын

Great comparison. I might have to grab one! I love my WBBB XLC too. Been using it for few years and never wanted anything else. I got an Amok Draumr 3.0 for my birthday and have to say I love it just as much! The Dutch chameleon looks interesting.

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 7 жыл бұрын

How does the XLC compare to the Draumr? Those things have always interested me.

@pyromaniac1491 7 жыл бұрын

SBOutdoors Well that's a hard question. I don't really compare them as they are both completely different from each other. Personally I like using the Draumr and been using it often. I should do a side by side comparison video. The XLC has been my go to hammock so don't think either one could replace the other. The attention to detail on the Amok is top class. So I like both of them but the Draumr is quickly becoming my favorite. Hope that helps.

@johngreen8641 6 жыл бұрын

Some other "major" differences include the new beetle buckle bling and straps. You can customize the Chameleon with the pole to hang two hammocks together on just two trees. Dutch also offers a bugnet called the "Double Dutch to cover two hammocks now on the site. :)

@randystrom2163 6 жыл бұрын

Helpful, thx!

@Billy-jn6gx 5 жыл бұрын

Witch hammock gives you a flatter lay black bird or chameleon

@Macdivers1 6 жыл бұрын

I don't recall it mentioned but the newest XLC now has a zippered exit on the footbox side. Additionally, I saw a video that showed that if the bugnet is turned completely over and reattached the lay is reversed. Please advise if this is misstated. Note: I don't think I'd ever remove a bugnet. In cooler temps it holds in heat. That and I like my WB winter sock that can be closed completely if needed and over the bugnet. I'd freeze in the Cameleon as the top cover has way too much mesh. I understand the need for ventilation but this goes too far IMHO.

@georgerosado5194 5 жыл бұрын

Can thoes ridgeline lofts be hooked up on either end...foot or the head?

@scottburleson7215 5 жыл бұрын

Sorry - dumb question here! What is a "double layer" and why is it required to use with a pad?

@briancuprisin4571 5 жыл бұрын

They're exactly the same, yet totally different!

@freethinker5225 Жыл бұрын

I just ordered the xlc. I guess they've done some updates and I definitely like things about both of them but the xlc just has a lot less fuss and I started with an eno system and I still had much better sleep than a tent and upgrading is just for a few more conveniences and I wanted my gf to have a set up with the eno

@chrisrondeau9912 6 жыл бұрын

What kind of suspension systems do you guys prefer? My WBBB uses whoopie slings but the chameleon doesn't offer that as an option. I like use the tree straps with toggles and a marlin hitch knot.

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын

The beetle (cinch) buckle I think might get you a little more versatility, but I think the whoopie slings are easier to deal with, and a little bit lighter. We loved the whoopies on our WBBB.

@donwanthemagicma 5 жыл бұрын

i would like to see this again but with the new XLC

@adrianmacklin418 4 жыл бұрын

I have the new xlc its crazy comfortable but for long trails i prefer the halfwit hammock almost the same comfort for almost a pound lighter

@uptrail7169 7 жыл бұрын

Good Review! I use the Warbonnet Blackbird and Dutchware Half-Wit hammocks. I'm debating between a Chameleon or Dream Hammock for my next one.

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 7 жыл бұрын

We really want to get our hands on a dream hammock...

@MstrRo 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry, if I missed it, but I did not hear you say anything about comfort of the two you are comparing? Can you comment on that?

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын

The Hexon 1.0 material is much more comfortable (for us) than the WBBB 1.7. It will depend on your weight range. NOW if there was a WBBB in Hexon 1.0, I'm not sure what the difference would be, but for now we find the chameleon (mainly because of the fabric) much more comfortable.

@HanaleiSurfrider1 5 жыл бұрын

My only "irke", if I have this correct, is that the WBBb comes with a bug net and the Cameleon bug net, is an "option" on purchase.

@Kobe29261 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought that was pretty lame and nickle-dimey - and for a 200$ product the fact that they charge shipping is a bit off-putting.

@voo8165 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's just me, but it looks like the War bonnet is roomier in the shoulders than the Chameleon. Is the Chameleon more cacoon like?

@CB42 6 жыл бұрын

Voo I noticed that too.

@rickturner2757 6 жыл бұрын

I'm 6ft 325lbs senior, any suggestions? any thoughts on the kammock roo?

@BrianSniatkowski 6 жыл бұрын

At your weight the double layer WB XLC in the heaviest material should handle you easily

@johngreen8641 6 жыл бұрын

edit: Dutch's Chameleon is a gathered end hammock, not Asym so no footbox, but you can lay in one of 5 positions. This hammock is very modular as Dutch is coming up with new accessories to accommodate his fanbase.

@arcana1973 6 жыл бұрын

Did you guys see Dutch has the new side car attachment?? Almost like the shelf

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын

JUST PURCHASED

@arcana1973 6 жыл бұрын

SBOutdoors I'm on the fence. I will await your video review. Did you guys and frozen reschedule your trip??

@alf3553 6 жыл бұрын

Dutch just released the double layer Chameleon.

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын

That is awesome. Last time out in mine the bugs rocked us :(

@AlexGashShellHammocks 6 жыл бұрын

SBOutdoors do some research on the effectiveness of two layers preventing/deflecting bugs biting through.... you'll find that that's a myth.

@DerFunkeDesLebens 6 жыл бұрын

Warbonnet has a new XLC version by now, allowing to reverse the lay, and ordering a winter top later on.

@alexwbanks70 7 жыл бұрын

I see a clippers shirt. I guess you guys are.

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 7 жыл бұрын

Yep! Go Bucks

@alexwbanks70 7 жыл бұрын

Question for you. Yesterday I ordered a 11' tarp. Is that going to be to small for this 11' hammock? Go Bucks!

@mattycakesSSs 7 жыл бұрын

Although the fabric length is 11', the hammock's ridgeline should shorten the overall length of the hammock to about 10'. So you'll be fine under an 11' tarp.

@SchillBrothersOutdoors 7 жыл бұрын

Alex Banks 11 ft tarp will be just fine. When you are in the hammock the length is much less than 11 ft.

@alexwbanks70 7 жыл бұрын

I actually picked up the tarp today. I got the 12' so I'll have some extra space. Thanks

@b.nitsch2228 3 жыл бұрын

As of today's Black Friday, the complete Chameleon is only $100. If I was on the fence before, isn't this kind of a no-brainer? dutchwaregear.com/product/chameleon-hammock/#suspension

@reneecase8678 2 жыл бұрын

Does it bother anyone else that Warbonnet has a logo of a Native American with a Native American head dress and it's owned by a white man? I bought an underquilt from this company and when I saw the logo I had to send it back and they changed me a 20% restocking fee but I could not stomach the cultural appropriation by this company.

@thenae8572 2 жыл бұрын

😂 This comment has been on almost every Warbonnet video I've watched recently, you are on a mission.

@SubZero-pi4jr 11 ай бұрын

🤡

@ORflycaster 11 ай бұрын

Nope, doesn't bother me at all. And it didn't bother you at the time you ordered it, or you wouldn't also be complaining about the restocking fee. Go stir the pot elsewhere. Hammocks are about relaxing, not drumming up stupid drama.