anyone who says you both are just disgruntled Vets, is either brainwashed or has a bad moral compass as well. Thank you both for speaking truth and uncovering corruption. Semper Fi

As an 0331 and fellow AMGLC graduate that deployed to Al-Anbar in 2007. I have heard similar stories to this for years. I appreciate you giving these men a platform.

Sounds more like task force "Pigeon". They flew in, knocked over the chess pieces, shit all over the battle space, strutted around like they won, then flew away.

The Naval Special Bookfare community isn’t going to like this.

They need to have Jocko on or Jocko have them on. If one party declines we know the truth. If they both agree we can finally hear the truth. But Jocko deleting comments is sus

Reminds me of life. The good guys get no recognition, but the bad ones do

I’m an old Marine, but more importantly in this context, I’m the father of an 0311 infantry Marine who served in Ramadi. If there were operators killing innocent civilians in order to gain some military credibility and get some medals or ribbons, you have my attention. Did you create unnecessary conflict that resulted in the deaths of multiple Marinies so you could wear some stupid ribbon?! You have no idea the contempt I have for you if that is the case!

Edit: The more I read and the more I research, the more holes appear in this narrative. I can't in good conscience pretend that this is a reliable video anymore. This video purports that Bruiser was operating without oversight and that's just not how that works. This feels completely fabricated. I'll leave my original post up for anyone else who might want to see it. I have some issues with this. These things aren't slams against the people on this show, or the people who put all this together but just a couple thoughts to keep in mind. This is a serious topic, so pardon the length of the reply but I feel it deserves me being thorough. The first is that Ryan, the guy who's letter kicked off a lot of this debate, is basing everything he's saying purely off conjecture. He didn't witness any of the stuff he's talking about personally and doesn't say any of his men saw any of these things take place personally either, save for meeting with a member of the Bruiser unit (which I also have some issues with). In the day and age we're talking about, even in the mid to late 2000's, if Bruiser was just rolling out and murdering people for no reason there is no way that isn't caught by somebody. A camera, a cell phone, satellite imaging even. Other units, etc. I've read a ton of comments regarding this and not once have I ever seen a single comment from someone saying "I saw this personally". It's all conjecture, and if you're going to impugn a respected reputation you just need more than that. "I heard this from x" is just not good enough, if you ask me. Especially if some of the people who they are bringing up are local leadership which to anyone who was there should ring some bells. It was common knowledge that there were good and bad actors in that region from day one. It was definitely not uncommon to have local authorities misleading American forces and making some wild claims. Am I saying all tragedies didn't happen? Absolutely not. Things definitely happen in war. If you're going to say "This group committed war crimes", you need more than that. As an aside the enemy absolutely operated in neighborhoods, caused collateral damage, and then blamed it on Americans. That was VERY common. To say that the insurgents did not have reason to operate in neighborhoods and that it gave them no tactical advantage is just wrong. IEDs were often not tactically placed by insurgents. Some were, a lot were not. Stirring up unrest and blaming Americans for that unrest was part of the insurgency game plan to weaken our alliances with local leadership. It's very surprising to me to hear an XO say otherwise. The other issues I have are with the meeting with the Bruiser that Ryan speaks about. I get that every organization is different and operate differently. I'm not saying it's impossible that misconduct or lack of respect occurred. It can happen. What bothers me is that Ryan is saying it was 'unprofessional' to have an insignia on their equipment, the punisher skull. Insignias and identification markings have been core critical across every branch of service since inception, and the punisher skull is -far and away- not the most insensitive marking there has been in the military. To say that they are unprofessional because of that makes me wonder if this even happened. That sounds made up to me, because in my eyes and from experience that is not a reason to discredit an entire organization. As far as the war crimes not being reported thing, I get that we were very busy during that time in Ramadi. I just don't buy it that there was no way to run that stuff up the ladder. As busy as our forces were in that region, and they were definitely busy, the military makes time to investigate war crimes and take action. I have a hard time believing that it wasn't something that they would have acted on. It just does not pass for me. The last issue I have doesn't concern this broadcast itself but more the comments being deleted on Jocko's video and the like. I've seen a lot of those comments as I've tried my best to stay apprised of this topic. While some might have caught strays and were deleted unnecessarily (I won't pretend there aren't some of those), there were a ton of comments that weren't just being critical. They were threats, attacks, slurs, just plain rage. You can be outraged at allegations, but if you go on a massive rant where you are personally insulting someone... Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if that gets deleted. Freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence. It's just like if I talk trash in a bar, I can't be mad if I get leveled for it. There's a right and wrong way to discuss this kind of thing. I'm not saying in any concrete way that these events didn't happen, but the facts presented just don't get me over that ledge. If new things come out, I'll gladly eat my own shoe and take the hit. For now though, it doesn't really pass my litmus test. Just my thoughts. Stay safe out there everyone.

The weakest part of Jocko’s defense podcast was that 90% of it was based on the official record. The whole point behind the whistleblower push is that the official record is wrong. The same thing happened in WWII, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and so on. After reviewing both sides, I will say that the most truthful side has been the whistleblowers. Now, we can all recognize that Iraq in 05/06 was known as the “Wild West,” because ROEs were lax. But that makes the accusations against Jocko even more convincing because they would have to be flagrant violations. More so, there’s a whole-ass book AND movie that overblows who Chris Kyle was and what he did. Final point - Jocko is incredibly successful. Dude makes hundreds of thousands PER SEMINAR. Plus consulting, plus books, plus supplements, plus his MMA gym… what I’m saying is, the dude has lawyers, the fact that this went on for over a month without a cease and desist or lawsuit is pretty telling.

I didn't have any opinions about this matter beforehand, I liked Jocko. But after listening to both him and Eric, and now these Marines, I can truthfully say I believe there really is some real substane in to the criticism of Jocko. Not only that, there's a lot of proven times when SEAL command covered up botched SEAL operations, so the fact that Jocko said "Why would management allow us to do these things" - well, we all know that Navy like to cover up these things.

Katt Williams did say that 2024 is the year that everything will be exposed.

I was one of the Americans that believed ever word of American sniper, lone survivor. I wish that shit was true. I wish these guys were these American super soldiers. Unfortunately that’s not the world we live in. Thank you guys for your service and for the truth. I know it’s not easy to do what you’re doing. God bless

It's awesome to see fellow Marines living the corps values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment

Ryan perfectly explains why the war took 20 years. In the end, it was nothing but a benefit to the military industrial complex and officers who played along moved up.

We had the same issues with Seal team 3 on Camp Habbaniyah in 04-05. Kyle bragged about it in his book. Shot an unarmed civilian front of a mosque, the CO of the Tank Company that was assigned to task force 506 witnessed it and pushed up. Kyle skated free and clear of those charges and continued it in Ramadi.

Don’t idolize these men. Worry about god, yourself, and your family

Jocko not bringing Kyle up made me weary and suspicious as well

@GreenBeretChronicles 1st sgt, I am a former marine with 3/8 Lima. I would like the opportunity to talk with you privately about some of the content in this particular video. I was there in Ramadi and like the XO I was with this unit during secure tomorrow all the way into Ramadi. There are quite a few pieces missing from these guys takes. Neither of these Marines are wrong about anything per se but when they started talking about Tomci I think someone from Lima needs to speak up. I request a few minutes of your time.

This channel is a breath of fresh air. It's also refreshing to see people in the comments not buying into the SEAL hype.

I am so glad that you take pride in your regiment while also policing the malfeasance to preserve it's sacred nature.

Kudos to these three gentlemen for having the guts to speak out - they are completely credible and are gaining nothing from their disclosure. Remembering what Edmund Burke said "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." These good men are doing something.

"That letter was fake and generated by AI" Dude who wrote the letter: "okay, BET"

Time for Jocko to show some "extreme ownership". But nah, don't think that'll ever happen.

As you all know whistleblowers face a harsh road of scrutiny,but the truth always prevails. Best wishes and support on this arduous journey!

40:15 Those Punisher skulls on the gear not helping the cause with the population is about the same as a lot of these police departments trying to get the support of communities going around dressed up in a costume looking like they’re the ones getting ready to get dropped into Ramadi. Think about it.

Army Ranger Eric Edstrom wrote an amazing book called “Un-American: a soldier’s reckoning of America’s longest war” and his story lines up with what you guys are discussing here

Thank you all for stepping up. I’m a former Marine with 1/8 & 2/2 pre 10 year war.

I guess congrats to the channel for actually getting Jocko to respond. I would have never expected him to give any of this attention. I suppose based on the accusations being as serious as they are he was compelled to do so. My recap of this video: The Marine XO who wrote the letter clearly wanted everyone to think TU Bruiser killed 36 of "his" Marines. Jocko responded in a podcast addendum, and now here the XO walked his comments back to acknowledge that 17 Marines died in Ramadi (not 36) and around the time TU Bruiser was in theater-- which also happened to be when the most intense fighting was occurring... but he didn't elaborate that the Marine deaths were the direct result of anything TU Bruiser did like he framed in his letter. He contradicts himself in this video compared to what he wrote in that letter and how this channel presented the XO's letter in the original video about all of this. It's clearly misinformation or disinformation and if I owned this channel I would want that error on my part corrected for the record. Obviously we aren't going to see that happen because it won't fit their narrative. The XO goes on to say that HE DID NOT witness any innocent killings perpetrated by TU Bruiser, but people he knows told him about it. When asked what he did with those reports he responds saying he was too busy at the time to do anything about it. He expresses disgust with the Punisher patches the SEAL TU was wearing... and in my opinion, is the one thing in this video I would say is actually verifiable and they are justified in calling out. As a Marine and Iraq Veteran myself, I do get this perception of a lack of professionalism and still remain surprised TU Bruiser was allowed to "decorate" their uniforms in this manner. I wouldn't make as much of a stink about it as these guys are doing, but I do actually agree it's weird for an elite military unit to do that. Similar to the XO, the former enlisted Marine from 3/8 they have on here basically peddles an identical story. People in his company told him TU Bruiser killed innocent people... but he clearly says he saw nothing himself and did nothing himself about the reports he received. He goes on to talk about how intense the fighting was in and around the government center that led to the civilian population moving entirely out the area... but then also contradicts himself by saying the TU Bruiser guys who showed up to the government center shot noncombatants... that weren't in the area? But he didn't see it... people just told him they saw it. So were there civilians in the area to be shot or not? It just doesn't compute. He also says that if a Lance Corporal or PFC in a Marine unit were to shoot a civilian they'd be fried... but seems to think for some reason the SEALs had zero accountability and could shoot whomever they pleased however they pleased with no ROE. He also seemed to take exception that the SEALs operating in the area weren't briefing him on their missions and movements in the AO. He said he was a Corporal at the time. I doubt a SEAL Commander in Ramadi would be compelled to make sure a Corporal machine gunner in 3/8 was tipped off as to when they'd be appearing at the government center, their objectives while there, and when to expect them again. He also said something about how TU Bruiser would go up on the roof and shoot random people so they could get combat action ribbons. Again, after saying there was no civilian presence in the area and that he never saw them shooting random people even though he literally lived at the building throughout the deployment. So we've got SEALs clipping randoms from the rooftop of the building you live in but you never saw it? You never did anything about it? Just people you know told you about it? Well holy shit it sounds Biblical then, doesn't it? Listen, I don't think Jocko can part the Red Sea... I don't think SEALs or any military community is perfect. But I hope the people watching these videos can understand the frame here this very tiny and small group of people no one has ever heard of before is pushing versus the more likely reality that TU Bruiser wasn't a murderous bunch of unchecked cowboys. My read is that these folks don't like the punisher patches (agreed), don't like the fact that a SEAL has gone so public with their experiences and persona (understood), but to call them fraudulent murderers is quite the fucking stretch. Just my $0.02.

Listening to the part about lending out/borrowing weapons/guns is absolutely hilarious. Being from SF, the same as Jay. I can say our teams would never in a million years do this. If I dared lend out our weapons/guns and or borrowed them. My ass would be finished for good. Not saying it’s never happened, I’m sure it has somewhere by someone. I’m starting to think and realize Jocko is full of shit and is everything opposite of what he preaches now. Which is very sad to say.

Man, your channel must get a lot of hate, so I just want to say, thanks for having the fortitude and honor to bring this out. Jock and Lief are probably multimillionaires at this point, so hope the truth gets out and we can hold people to account and train the next batch of leaders to never sacrifice their honor.

David Goggins has been saying this for years

Im a Ramadi vet from 2006, and Ryan speaks the truth of what actually occurred..

Pretty soon Shipley is gonna have a business of verifying former seals who are trying to claim they were just marines or infantry lol

If Eric Demming is lying, then Jocko would of sued Mattew Cole for writing Code Over Counrty. Eric Demings recommends it. It came out over 2 years ago. Jocko is on pgs 153-160. 2 members of Seal Team Six were on an observation mission to see if Team Six could help Task Unit Bruiser. After witnessing warcrimes after contact, Chris Kyle in particular. They declined to help Jocko. They saw no need for it. Nor did they make a former complaint. It does provide a reason for the endless paperwork that Jocko complains about. They were trying to slow him down.

The truth is always important, no matter how long after. “If a lie can destroy it, then let it be destroyed”.

For the ill-informed, no, this isn’t my real name. I have a family and don’t want to be messed with. When men face life in prison, they will silence anyone by any means. However, I am a real former SEAL. I was with SEAL Team Two from 2004 to 2011, in the Navy from 2002 to 2013, with three tours to Iraq, South America, Africa, and Afghanistan. There’s always been a rift between the East and West Coast, so take this with a grain of salt. At Team Two, we all thought Jocko Willink wasn’t doing a good job. So much so that we didn’t use any of their tactics, which is a fact. Was it in direct response to Jocko? Not sure, as I was only an E-5 when tactics changed. We operated only at night and made sure not to stand out with patches and such. In response to Michael Monsoor, I presume, we began to dog-ear our grenades with rubber bands and wear them in pouches instead of draping them on the pin and spoon. We also put tape on the pin and double wrapped it. One drunken night, I heard that Monsoor had pulled his own pin by accident because it got caught on something. That part is just hearsay. But the fact is, after Monsoor died, we changed TTPs on grenades. Why? Not sure. Bottom line is, on the East Coast, TRADET was teaching none of the tactics deployed by Jocko. We got up at 4 PM not 4 AM on deployments to conduct nighttime OPs. I know several SEALs, including Mike Day, who didn’t like Jocko. Now, as far as murder being involved, I wasn’t there. But I can say the enemy doesn’t wear uniforms, so identifying enemies is tough. And just because they don’t have guns doesn’t mean they are allies. At that time, cell phones, kids' toys, walkie-talkies, etc., were being used to detonate bombs. This included women, children, and men of all ages. So, on that front, that’s a hard case to prove some 20 years later. Now, as far as Jocko being some great leader, I’ve seen no proof of any great leadership in the military, period, as the war in the Middle East has been lost, and we are on the brink of WW3, and we have more laws in America than before 9/11. Here’s how the award system works in the military: Only screw-ups get high awards. If a group of SEALs does a mission with no shots fired and arrests the guy and gets him convicted in court, you get some low-level award. If you do daytime ops, use explosive breaching, alert everyone, Americans get shot and killed, and you survive, you get the highest awards. That’s a fact. The military awards failure. So did Jocko use terrible tactics? Yes. Is that a crime? I don’t believe so. Did he kill civilians? Hard to say. Is a he great leader? We lost the war and guys got killed on his deployment. No one was using his tactics as of 2013. Now, the martial arts thing. I can’t say if he was making money on the deal but a forensic accountant could figure that out quickly. But the Deter System was not widely loved. We all wanted some MMA-type training but due to contracts with Duane Deter it was difficult.

If a Marine loses a suppressor in the field, that's his ass. But if Uncle Sam leaves 10,000 serialized rifles in Afghanistan? Meh, no biggie. That's peak big government.

Takes King KONG size balls to open this door and talk like men about something as sensitive as this subject matter, Jay you quarterbacking the essence of real mentorship. Outstanding job gentlemen

Listen….. I was Alpha 1/5, and we had the gov center AO in March-Oct 2005. We were operating out of Hurricane Point and doing mounted security patrols/ QRF/ and government center security, on a rotating basis. I did not stay the whole deployment as 1/5 was undermanned and I was short timing. I was there til about mid June. I will attest that Ramadi was a very busy place and especially at the gov center. We were always taking shit there. I stood post at the police station at first, but then moved over to the roof top overlooking the entry control point. At that post, I was in it a couple times a week. At least! One night, we spotted some armed hadjis moving through buildings to our north. We called it in and were about to light them up. Same story…. Our leadership ran it up the chain looking for adjacent units or SOF units…. They came back with the go ahead to shoot if we’ve positively identified them. Which we were certain that we had. They were wearing local attire and moving with ak’s Whatever seal team that was present in that time, skylined themselves and decided it was not a good idea to let anyone know they were going to be in our area moving around in local attire with local weapons. They were a split second away from being killed by us, for it. At the last second, my platoon sergeant stopped us, AFTER giving us the go ahead to shoot. That was my only interaction with the Seals. From afar. Don’t be stupid, talk to the units in the area and let them know you’re there so they can back you rather than shoot at you.

Remember this always, Jocko sells a BRAND. Hes a marketer with a SEAL background.

These interviews have been eye-opening

Finally! The good fight. I’m former USAF 822nd and 824th SFS joined active duty March 2000 my second deployment was 6 Oct 2001 and was part of Task Force Dagger. Listen. The damage goes further than just the obvious. I have younger siblings and peers from high school who think only veterans with high body counts are the only real vets. In my Squadron, we took the term “quiet professionalism” very serious. Having the discipline to do your job and protect personnel and resources was the stand up troop. Intelligence and integrity is what we viewed as honorable not a comic book vigilante. My point is this shit also affects the culture we come home to after the culture we became accustomed to and that is difficult. I’d like to collaborate. I’m currently a volunteer peer support advocate and the good guys have to stick together. I feel this kind of shit hurts us, our country and national security. The romance between actors and mass ignorance also affects veteran suicide. I have witnessed that firsthand aswell. Thank you gentlemen for everything. I can relate in my own way as an active duty member immediately after the attacks. Thank you. Contact me. Too much to type. 2024 is year of truth.

Jocko just did a two part rebuttal where he sites (but doesn't show) all the documentation & internal reviews that are done & the process a spec ops team has to do to operate in someone elses' battle space or whenever a SEAL team member has to shoot someone & the investigations to make sure it was a good kill. But all that is fine & dandy but it means nothing because all these documents & internal investigations also gave us the Navy SEALS' stamp of approval on ALL the lies being told about Rodger's Ridge with the stolen valor & botched planning that were covered up & Marcus Luttrell's complete fabrication of what happened at Op Redwings & that cover up. Honestly, I would be more willing to believe these Marines that are risking their reputations, with nothing to gain, to tell the truth instead of a bunch of narcissistic glory hounds that the SEAL community has allowed themselves to become.

You guys are true American. Thanks for serving with honor. God bless.

I'm a Marine. Wearing a punisher skull doesn't make you a bad guy, and it is not un-professional. To think that everything that a military person does is exactly by the book is ridiculous. You really think that I can't carry an extra weapon that I borrowed, without getting my superior's permission? Gimme a break. Rules are bent all the time. This behavior is prominent among ALL ranks, all the way up to the Commander in Chief. Obviously, killing the innocent in a gratuitous fashion is horrendous. IF there is proof beyond "they said", or "I heard", please provide it. Until then, I will 100% support Jocko.

Not a vet here. But I 100% have always thought something was too perfect about all these cats and am happy to hear that nobody is as perfect as they are in their own comic books. I don’t think you’re angry vets! You guys and the antihero podcast dudes are the real deal exposing truths! Thank you from just an athletic electrician! The Blue Collar Way!

This Marine is right though. I was an Army infantryman in Iraq from May 2005 to May 2006. After 8 of our Soldiers were kia in two separate attacks, we wrote their names on the outer cloth of our kevlars as a way to honor them before going on missions... But our company 1st Sgt went APE SHIT because of it looking "unprofessional". The Delta and Seal teams we ran across during our deployment were professional and wore mixed desert bdu's without unit any patches. Any personalized patches like "The Punisher" would have been considered inappropriate, atleast within my company. But much respect for their service....

“That rah rah…always motivated… I’m not buying it.” Shawn Ryan talking about Jocko.

You can always count on a Marine to have integrity and do what's right. It's a shame it occurred but it's definitely overdue this has been called out publicly. Definitely wasn't conduct becoming a US serviceman. Thank you to the Marines and Seal who came forward to tell the truth on this matter.

From Chris Kyles Hurricane Katrina sniper stories, to the Lone Survivor Movie, where Kris Kyle leads young starstruck Marines, who affectionately referred to him as the living "Legend" while clearing houses with his sniper rifle, to the trapped U.S Army Infantrymen on top of the roof, who he singlehandedly saved at the end of the movie, to knocking out Jesse Ventura, the whole story seems suspect, if not the main parts.

Jocko is such a disappointment for diverting instead of owning it.

Ryan seemed very believable. I didn't see any reason to doubt him.i appreciate getting to see another witness to talk about what happened.

I respect these Marines' perspectives/experience and enjoyed listening to them. However, as far as the specific accusations of war crimes and cover up, at the end of the day it's still hearsay and assumptions (albeit, seemingly pretty reasonable assumptions from their perspective), rather than direct evidence. I have to hand it to Jocko... he knows how to talk. His rebuttal videos sounded pretty eloquent and convincing to a general audience. Unless much more specific testimony of Bruiser SEAL crimes/incompetence and Jocko directly sweeping it under the rug emerges, I don't see any of this affecting Jocko too much at this point. For those of you commenting that Jocko should come onto this channel or have guys like Deming etc on his channel to hash this out, come on!! There's no way in hell he's gonna do that. He is not going to use his platform to give these accusations or the people making them anymore attention than absolutely necessary. Outside of veterans and a niche of people who are interested enough in military and GWOT to follow this shit closely, nobody in the general public is really paying attention to this. And for Jocko's fans, his response was probably more than convincing enough to satisfy them to not look further into it. I'll give Jocko the benefit of the doubt and say that I'm not convinced that he was necessarily intentionally nefarious or a horrible guy. In light of all this, I definitely don't think he was anything close to the great battlefield commander that he makes himself out to be. It seems that he did demonstrate a level of incompetence by not deconflicting battlespace and failing due diligence to manage potentially trigger happy psychos like Chris Kyle. But at the end of the day, it seems to me that Jocko just kinda did what careerist officers tend to do: shine shit and write it up as gold. Make sure X number of ops are planned and executed, let your guys shoot enough to justify and validate what you're doing, write it up nice... and "mission accomplished." Then he got out and marketed himself well. And thanks to the Navy PR machine, the SEAL brand made it all the easier for him. Chris Kyle always seemed like a bad dude to me. At face value, the idea that he was getting that many legit kills compared to other snipers working the same battlefield never made any sense. Some snipers are better than others, sure. But this wasn't Carlos fucking Hathcock mastering the art of stalking and remaining unseen in the jungles. Kyle was manning the same urban sniper posts as all the other Marine/Army/SEAL snipers operating out there at the time. How the hell was he seeing all these legit targets that the others apparently couldn't? Bullshit.

Skulls on the uniform... reminds me of that British sketch about a certain historical military unit: "Have you looked at the symbol on our cap? It's a skull... Hans, are we the baddies?"

Powerful stuff. All four individuals speaking out are, in my opinion, credible. Appreciate your service then AND NOW!

The marines are absolutely right.i was army infantry in that same area and patrolled route Michigan between ramadi and fallujah for a year and only saw 2 dead insurgents.I guess Kyle and jocko were fighting and killing an enemy that was invisible to me

The truth is the truth, thanks for exposing it

Dude, I thought I was crazy when I noticed that comments on jocko videos were deleted! Thank god someone else noticing it!

The SEAL command has some serious, SERIOUS explaining to do

Jockos new operation is called “Operation damage control”

THANK YOU for giving these Marines the opportunity to set the record straight! Civilians might not completely understand how unusual service members airing dirty laundry in public really is

I’m proud of these two Marines for coming forward. I’m proud of Deming for being honest about some of his fellow SEALs. I’m proud of the Green Beret who put all of this together and got the truth out. Thanks fellas. Much respect and thank you for your service.

I'm glad this is coming out. Semper Fidelis.

Further validates my decision to not associate myself with the military anymore. I was just a run of the mill, one tour 8404 Corpsman, mind you. The "needs of the Navy" kept me bored and/or behind a desk, which is why I left. And when I see guys like Willink, Kyle, Marcinko, who had careers that were orders of magnitude more significant than mine, mucking things up ... I just don't have the words. Thanks for the podcast. Oorah.

I am impressed how these vets express themselves. Thank you for setting the record straight. Very disappointed in the zeros that supervised this unsupervised group. Thank you for standing up for the truth.

Very impressive episode.. That you assembled all of these guys, 20 years later, to shed light on some unpleasant moments in US Mil/GWoT history is truly impressive and admirable. I'm hoping it helps provide lessons for future generations of service personnel and leadership.

As A business owner I like a lot of Jockos leadership ideas. But as a regular Army vet I always thought it was weird he has an amazing deployment in Ramadi "the way he talks about it." but then got put in charge of training later. Which as just a normal Army guy that usually means they were a shit war leader or got in trouble so they stick them in spot they cant get in anymore trouble. Then when he got out close to 20 years. Usually awesome leaders stay in longer not always but the way he talks about his seal carrier I would of thought he would stick around for 30. But I didn't think much more until now. Now I feel lied to lol

Jocko: well, of course someone said something and made some claims. They just want clicks and fame. They don’t know anything. Those things didn’t happen. Go buy my stuff.

I don’t know…I’m already suspicious of a senior officer starting out the conversation with “uniforms, discipline, etc.” I had Marines ask me if I stopped to render aid after vehicle mishaps in downtown Ramadi. There is no way I’m hanging out downtown in a gunfight. You have to put it in perspective. At the end of the day I just want AJ Pasciuti to get credit for killing Juba, it was NOT Chris Kyle. I’ll be glad when Lee Decklelman does your show. He can give more info on who I am and what I did if it helps with anything. I’m not calling out individuals publicly but am happy to hold leaders accountable.

Man, I am speechless after listening to these past few episodes. I even watched most of Jocko's just to hear his take. I was a Scout Sniper with 2/7 in the early 90's (No combat for me) and I followed The Chris Kyle story along with that of Jocko and others. Now, I really am questioning everything..One thing I do know is that, I respect these men who are speaking their truth the way they have seen it. I wish them well, they have emotional scars that need healing. SF

I was in Ramadi with 1/16 INF from 2003-2004 ; great podcast !

Who ever is calling you guys disgruntled vets has something to hide imo. Thank you guys for bringing the truth into the light. edit I liked at the end when you got a complement about Army Engineers you had big old grin. Be Proud.

Nothing is more important than the truth. Thank you gentlemen. Shame we were lied to for so many years.

I smelled Bullshit on Kyle from the beginning when I first heard about him. After he got caught lying about other things, it just solidified my belief in that assessment. I heard he was reporting his own kills with no confirmation from anyone else needed. I've brought this fact up to VERY few people because of the blind hero worship so many people are engaged in when it comes to him. I also wonder if his nickname "legend" wasn't actually a reverse pun. Kind of how a 300lb guy gets the nickname "tiny". I think a LOT of his fellow SEALS felt he was utterly full of shit, and a psycho, and laid that handle on him as a backhanded way of saying it.

You can't lend out seralized gear, he's right. With weapons especially because they have to go on the unit's account through Crane. Doing it interservice is illegal, I did the books for my unit. No way a Marine Unit would accept weapons from the Navy.

Once again, thank you Eric Deming, Ryan and Graham for their courage and bravery in speaking out. When I first came out publicly, I thought I was going to do it alone. But Eric came forward and joined me. He legitimized my allegations and has taken the role of leader in this quest. I am eternally thankful for that. Time for more whistleblowers to come forward. Let’s do this!!

Read Matthew Cole's book "Code before Country" about the corruption and coverups within DevGru and the SEAL Teams. So bad that they tried to prevent the Medal of Honor to a fellow warrior Combat Air Controller named John Chapman who sacrificed it all on Robert's Ridge.

If this stuff is documented and provable, I feel like some warcrime tribunals should be happening. We are the US and we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard.

I appreciate you guys bringing this to light. Hopefully you can get more guys to come forward. And as far as loaning other units weapons, it will never happen

What really makes this an absolutely HORRIFIC story is that some of these people become law enforcement officers here at home

I want to thank each of you for your service and sacrifice. I am simply a civilian who has been intrigued by the movies and the books. And that's all I've ever had to go on until now. I'm starting to see a little more clearly, I believe. Whatever the truth is, it will eventually prevail.

I am so glad you guys are doing this. I am extremely saddened by the disillusionment and this needs to be covered by investigative journalism

Wow, powerful stuff. The truth is of the utmost importance when it comes morale. Lies and coverups crushes morale.

Thanks for sharing these events.

It’s an honor to hear these men on the podcast. Wow

Love this. Jocko removed my comment from his video too. Btw: there’s another Marine offering up his critique of the XO in a separate video. I think both of these guys are sincere and honest. Read “Code Over Country” The email from Jocko to Chris Kyle said everything I needed to know about Jocko. Jocko sat quietly by while Kyle smeared Jessie Ventura, all while knowing that Kyle was a sociopathic liar. That’s how much respect Jocko has for his senior frogmen and tradition. Are we to believe that Jocko wasn’t there when Monsoor’s CMH was awarded? He knew that Ventura never said anything like what Kyle alleged and he knew Kyle never hit Ventura, but he sat quietly and let the country crap on Ventura. Screw Jocko.

Fire! Keep it coming y’all! This is exactly what our country is dying for literally right now. We need truth and accountability. Eric Demming god bless you sir. Sincerely a thankful patriot

British Army vet here (not SF). Thank you for ensuring you have both undertaken and displayed your due diligence. I can only hope that you have already reached out to Jocko to engage in honest discussion. If you have and Jocko declines honest scrutiny then I can only assume that it's for a reason. I watched both of his episodes made in response and there's little to no revelation from his perspective; rather he focused on joint command operation situations which do not address the specific incidents involved barring him saying it's a poorly constructed lie. I hope you have specific dates of events that can be reviewed in full by eye witnesses and civilian statements from the area at that time. This is probably the only way to get TFB to take stock and address the issue in full. Ubique

I’m not sure they are going to meet in a podcast. They are accusing him and his unit of war crimes. He’s probably talking to lawyers instead.

I am not an American but I read Kyle's book and he describes the enemy as savages and dehumanizes them in every chapter so I stopped reading it and right from there and knew that he has shot some innocents in his service

Greetings fellow Warrior. As a Marine Raider I can say the SEAL Platoons I deployed with were 99% all professional fighters. A few were Unsat. As for the Army SF , 100% of the Green Berets I've worked with and known they are all quiet professionals and men of honor, integrity and high moral character. Maybe I was just lucky. It was a honor to serve with these men. 1989-2005.

Thank you for the truth and for your service and honest leadership.

I'm really glad that people are talking about this.

My boy was with 3/8, we went through SOI, I was with 1/2, my first 4, reupped and went to 3/1, he reupped and went to 3/8. He said the same thing, talked about almost lighting up SEAL guys when they bumped into them and I don't understand the exact situation bumped there was no one supposed to be there but some how they almost lit them up. He lost alot of respect for the teams after that. There were alot of Marines that were there that have said the same thing

I was with 1/8 when we went to Ramadi in 2007, and we would have SEALs pass through our lines in the battlespace, and they would always let us know either by radio or Blue Force Tracker that they were passing through. On more than one occasion it was in civilian SUVs and wearing local dress, all of which they described. Stark contrast to TF Bruiser. 3/8 had an incredibly hard deployment in Ramadi. I spent significant time during our workup watching all the combat footage I could of 3/8 to get an idea of what lay ahead of us. Our Battalion Gunner had been with 3/8 and he was a wealth of knowledge. The Anbar Awakening occurred just as we got in country and it went from kinetic operations to security operations. I am glad I got to play a small part in ensuring the sacrifices of the prior Army and Marine units in Ramadi weren't wasted on my watch. Obama fucked all that up losing the city to the Islamic State, but that's another story.

Chris Kyle wrote a book admitting to hundreds of murders, and it got published, Ie the navy read the book and said yea that works. Think about that. The Navy has to review and OK every book.

Hey Green Beret, you have my utmost respect. A British Vet. Salutations from Belfast Northern Ireland 🇬🇧

In Australia we have a few SAS soldiers who killed innocent ppl and are facing jail and war crimes.

Just want to say, if any of those three men are reading this. Ya'll are doing the right thing, and I hope you are able to continue your existence without the weight of knowing what you know. I have always been anti-war to a certain extent and it it has hardened much much more compared to when i was younger, but I have never hated or held contempt over the service men/women of the military. Over the years though, after taking all in the information and I'm always learning more. I have grew bitter and formed a hatred and distrust for the Military as an institution. However, when American Sniper came out and Lone Survivor came out, and when I got older and more suspicious of stories (happens with age to everyone). After all the reports of immaturity of the seals and the my research of Chris Kyle as a human being (because at the time, I never doubted his story. I only despised him as a person, but respected his service) when I came back to those events and read into them with an open mind. My entire perspective of the Seals went from thinking that there is some bad actors, but its not a culture problem. To, most of the Seals are people I should not trust at all and I off the bat don't like them and assume the worst. To hear from all 3 of you, that this isn't your experience with other Seals but also pointing out the bad actors, I feel that I can look at Seal Units with more sympathy and respect. That there is a way to solve the issue, and that it's finally being acknowledged. I don't like the idea of real personal and intimate stories of war being sold as a way for people to experience heroism, and live through those who have actually put their life at risk (but its also impossible to prevent, and might serve a greater purpose despite it). However to have people live through those who are nothing more then living ghosts of a person they know they aren't, while most of those who have died in combat never lied about who they were, showed their vulnerability in death, but despite that faced death head on and looked it in the eye. Those people are dead, and their stories haven't been told, and most likely never will. While those who have built a lie to serve their own fabricated legacy are writing books and spewing words that might as well be considered empty and meaningless are living lives of luxury and success. Its despicable, and all 3 of you despite the faults that come with being human. Are the few that carry true integrity that actually weighs something.

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