ohmygosh yes pls. Was Kishimoto answering that stuff on twitter or where do you got his answers from?

it's a shame the chao garden just dissapeared. it was beloved in SA1 and 2, especially 2, then heroes got rid of it because it would break the pacing? kinda a weird way of thinking, you'd want something to break up the monotiny that is going fast and holding forward. i liked Frontier as a concept, never finished it since it just became an "go here, collect this, go there, collect this, go there, collect this, hand in collectables to the character, get story bit, go there, collect this" and it became boring real fast, i would honestly be more compelled to play it if i had an alternative goal than just collecting these collectables and unlocking more of Sonics "natural" abilities. kinda wish we could get an actual SA3 at some point, with how smooth it feels and without the need of an "press to go fast" button. the level design lends itself to that button, granted, but it isn't like the adventure or heroes style levels, where getting speed and maintaining said speed was satisfying. can't exactly feel good about pressing a button to go to top speed, hit a wall, jump and just press that button again.

That actually makes a ton of sense, as Frontiers definitely feels like an extension of the Adventure games with some Modern Sonic sensibilities

Ew, not more "open zone" crap...

@@MrJoeyWheeler A lot of people liked it. We’ll get more.

Dreamcast games in general just have that feel to them. Such a unique few years of gaming history.

That and listening to 90s albums

@@Ivegotsomewater81Yeah. Honestly those were wildly different times than today.

@@MrChipathenIsMyDoggo yup they were more free

@@JR-mr1tw Was talking about this with some friends today looking at the clouds. It's a whole subject that could be deep dove into.

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Not really.

This reeks of the Sonic Passion forums.

Yeah I don't get that. Shadow is one of the most shallow characters in the entire franchise.

​@E☠️-SOLDIER On an analytical basis, I agree. Shadow is a color by number emo. But in a world of happy, bright 90s tropes? Shadow is a breath of fresh air, a questioning angst we could all relate to back in the day. Shadow felt grown up, the same way a 2nd grader sees a teen. He is not complex or deep, but he has more pain and morality and dedication in him than Knuckles ever displayed toward the Master Emerald. Shadow feels relatable, because he took his responsibilities seriously, in a world where they blew up the moon as a fle

it's an odd decision to exclude the chao garden because it would break the gameplay loop according to them. if you're going fast all the time, you kinda want a breather every now and then, that's why SA2's chao garden was the best of the 2, if you didn't want to go to the chao garden, then don't pick up the key, if you did, just quickly exit afterwards, no biggie. SA1s was also nice since you can visit at your own leisure at any point in time, granted you had adventure fields to break the high speed action. but for them to go "it would break the gameplay loop too much" is just a really shitty line of thinking, that shows to me they have no idea what players really want and need. you need a moment to process what just happens, that's generally why stories don't go hard on the plot at all times, generally you see a major plot reveal, followed by some relaxing or calming setup for the next part.

@@DarkDyllon to be fair i literally only played the sa2 FOR the chao garden. i really only was interested in the garden and the time spent in the levels was just grinding for rings and upgrades, i think like pumpkin hills was the only level i even liked in the game X''D

@@DarkDyllon It's clearly BS

​@@technopoptart playing sa2 rn for same reason

When I was little, I actually believed buying Sonic shoes would make me run faster. So my mom bought me Sonic shoes. No idea what brand. They just had Sonic on the side and were blue. Best part... totally worked. 😎

At the time, it made sense. Soap shoes were specifically designed for rail grinding, and SA2 had already introduced rail grinding as a mechanic. Sega was hurting for money at the time, and the sponsorship would only help both parties.

Captain Price somewhere in another Universe, his ears prick up: "SOOOOOOOOOOOAP!!!!!!!!!!!"

So poglings is getting a playground and a library then, right? Right? Please?

The game does seem pretty adorable! Wish I had some kind of funds to assist.

I didnt know someone was making a chao-like game. Weird. I tweeted out the kickstarter to some people who would love it

Thank God for Chadtronic. I've been dying for a new Chao Garden game.

I think the Poglings have a visual similarity to a certain baby dragon from a once-popular 2010's cartoon that pretty much faded into obscurity following the series finale.

Shows how much they have changed, considering this is the topic they chose right after their account was hijacked by coiners. Which in turn, surprisingly makes the stories as told by Sega Employees just as relatable as their former rival's.

"As a kid." You know how to make everyone feel old, don't you?

10 years ago i watched these videos at a job lmao

Yup. I've been watching DYKG since I was a kid!

Yes

​@@VongolaXZaxprofile pic checks out

@@RobotnikPlngas I love to salute. XD

@@VongolaXZax did you like Sonic Frontiers?

this is what made me always smiles in old devlogs, since theres so many thing we can learn of their thought process

I, unfortunately, am also guilty of accidentally spreading false info about games. I'm not at all tied to dykg, but I've accidentally spread false info of gaming that I believed was true. Such as, for example, believing the false rumor of Megaman Battle Network 3's Serenade being female in the JP version, when in truth the Japanese version refrains from referring to them by gender. I'm also guilty of further spreading false info of the cut Omochao line of the mustache being fake, me assuming they meant Eggman, when in truth, they're referring to the chao doctor.

Same here - I really used to hate this channel, it was so sloppy and had a lot of very well-known "facts" if you knew the subject they were talking about at even a surface level. The stuff they have been putting out the past few years is a huge step up and I love it.

What the heck is GVMERS?

​@@HoraceInkling a youtube channel that collects easily available information on a given topic and combines it with a very soothing narration.

@@HoraceInkling It is a gaming documentary channel. Their stuff always feels high quality to me.

As much as I love SA2, I cannot deny the fact I prefer SA1's exploration methods over SA2's stage select

I would pick Knuckles and just glide around the pyramid digging up random stuff, too bad there wasn’t much anything valuable but I liked doing it anyway so I would fo that for hours some days

the adventure field wasn't as popular as you'd think, people wanted a more linear style sonic game at that point, they experimented and honestly, the adventure fields worked. (except the maze in mystic ruins, screw that area) it was a common censensus between me and my friends back then that we just wanted to get to the next stage and go fast, i don't doubt that my opinion wasn't that far fetched either since in SA2 they did just that, stage after stage with no adventure field.

@@DarkDyllon My friends and I felt the exact opposite. Loved the Adventure stages. But finished them quickly to go explore the hub worlds. And lately nonlinear gameplay has increased in popularity. But people still loved concepts like Spyro.

I'd say the open zone of sonic frontiers is an evolution of the adventure field concept

Yikes 😬

@@atre5763 ok bro

@@atre5763 your favourite game doesnt need to be perfect, everyone has different relationships and opinions towards games

@@atre5763 ratio + THUNDER RAIN AND LIGHTNING

So true

Too bad they abandoned it in the very next game.

@@GabePuratekuta Yup; ever since being a kid I was torn when I had to decide which one I want to play. The wacky but funny different playstyles and exploration or the smoother gameplay with less variety but "more" replay value with the missions. Also the Chaoworld was soo much better in SA2 although I liked the animals in SA1 more.

SA1 was the better one, hands down.

Maybe, but I prefer the method in the second game where you get power-ups and emblems by playing the levels themselves in certain ways.

@@GabePuratekuta Almost like reviewers complained about the adventure field being pointless wastes of time that padded out the game time. Personally, I liked the adventure fields and was disappointed when 2 didn't have them. Hate the chao stuff, though.

I was obsessed with SA as a kid

I think it's also just because the Chao Garden was part of the goal to show off everything the Dreamcast could do, which included having a minigame that took advantage of the VMU. When the games were ported to GameCube, it was fortunate that the console had an approximation of that connectivity (with the GBA Link Cable). But from Sonic Heroes on, Sonic games had to be more homogenized to be able to be released as multi-platform titles, and there was also just no incentive for Sega to "show off" the secondary features of consoles that weren't theirs.

Too much work plus it's not "Sonic". Not just an "in-character" context, but I mean the "gameplay" of going fast and smacking robots with his body.

i always jested with the idea that they looked at sa2B's garden and went "this is peak chao garden, we can never top this" but the idea that it might be true is kinda sad

Everyone can just read your comment instead of watching the vid lol

@@cannonfodder4000 It wasn't the reason given for its exclusion

I mean, even if you point the camera in a direction and say "go here, idiot", it's still not the same thing as being able to fix stupid. That's it's own affliction, entirely.

@@the-NightStar I was about to say something along those lines. Glad someone beat me to it.

Arin: "WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO?!" Game: "This way" Arin: "It has to be spelt out for you. That's bad game design."

Arin is a sad excuse nowadays, dude should've stayed as Egoraptor animating funny shit instead of whining and crying about being bad at a game and claiming the game is bad instead

It boggles my mind they never thought to make a chao garden mobile game.

Well their oldest content was 100% user-submitted. I myself made a mistake on there, I wasn't aware that "pika pika" was based on the sound of sparking, not sparkling. In hindsight, I should have known better.

I prefer the old videos over Did You Know Gaming, because making their videos documentary themed just didn’t fit them.

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It doesn't help that the port for Sonic Adventure 1 had a huge drop in quality. People need to play the original version of a game before critiquing, ports of games rarely match the quality of the original release

And yet despite, it continues to this day

@@Eminster either incredibly good luck, or some voodoo magic

​@@Eminster Because many people understand the potential of Sonic. Sonic 06 is a game that some people understand in terms of potential.

​@@atre5763 I like Sonic as a character. Even if I dont fully enjoy the gameplay of a particular game, Sonic himself is cool

never forget: since adventure, not a single sonic game has gotten a complete development in terms of time or budget.

I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS

Our boi Chapstick finally made it

*Akinori Nishiyama

I think you need to be a little less impressed with yourself for this.

lmao

Tbf if they did it, it would be a microtransaction hell, like the mobile tamagotchi games

Why would you think that? How is that able to be taken out of context?

I can think of a multiple reasons why that's the case. But mostly the fact that in the Adventure games, the Chao Garden was meant to work ALONGSIDE the main game. They would have to rework it so you can farm the cores and animals without the main levels if it's an only phone game. Second, they already don't have the time to properly finish their games so to develop something as complex as the Chao Garden as a time waster that doesn't add that much to the main gameplay? Yeah I can see why it never came back into the main serie.

@@SoraKingdom3 The first point is true. The Chao Garden was suppose to help newcomers to action platformers get better at them by endearing the player to take care of them. And the only way to do so is by playing action stages. It's a gameplay loop that's suppose to entourage improvement at the main game that is otherwise very ignorable to those already good at the game..

I'd rather they keep it out until it isn't required for 100%

why do you want chao garden? there is team rose in sonic heroes duh

I wouldn't mind if it was brought back as a mobile game, or a standalone PC game.

It's a perfectly valid reason. Get over your entitlement, after you learn to get over yourself.

It was still very interesting information

I hate everything they talked about in this video. lol Way to push aside your previous audience for another.

It probably wasn’t Anime enough for him back then Sonic had his own identity now everyone is comparing him to Anime wannabe

He didn't have one, for starters.

@@Skye2993 Implying that japanese people writing stories ain't gonna feel like an anime because that's all westerners know... Sonic wasn't popular in his home country not helped with the Sonic media there being non-existent outside of a short weird superhero manga. He was still just a bunch of sprites with little going on in comparison to now. Now his world is a lot more exciting to go through in comparison with him feeling like a more realized character.

He was like an impatient cartoon with attitude, like Woody Woodpecker or Donald Duck, instead of impatient Shonen protagonist with attitude, like Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho. The difference is less slapstick (but still some), more acting smooth and collected, less selfishness like "I'm outta here" from CD or annoyed at the player in idle animations, more trying to help everyone including your enemies. His temper and attitude, like getting angry at shadow, remain the same, just more subdued. Sonic only lost his attitude and became purely nice in 06 and Unleashed and he didn't write those outside of Shadow's story.

I'm still playing Sonic Frontiers, yet the game itself has some Adventure vibes. Pretty sure the sequel could have a Chao Garden.

You do realize it was described that way to avoid spoilers, right?

Sorry for replying to such an old comment but, dude, for real LOL I spent more time as a grown ass adult trying to figure out where tf to go on the mystic ruins after every stage than I did in the entirety of the castle when i was like, 9. I was flabbergasted when I got to that quote

*indie devs

Don’t you mean “kings”?

Meakawa I get not knowing, but everyone else should have said "Oh we did that already" or something

Most of the Sonic 2 staff wasn't with Sega anymore by that point.

Objectively untrue statement.

Ok I'm as big a sonic fan as the next guy but this is just massive copium, like it's genuinely not even close

I just remembered to come back to this video and check out the link, and yoooo!! I'm looking forward to this!