Dynamic-braked SW1200RSs on Canfor Englewood Logging Railway Nimpkish June 1997

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10 жыл бұрын

Canfor (now Western Forest Products) operates four rare dynamic-braked SW1200s (three have now been re-engined with CAT 3612 prime movers. Note the shops are at Nimpkish NOT Nimkish as the video captions say. Sorry!
This video, taken in June 1997, shows empty logging trains, the log cars being loaded and loaded logging trains with both one and two locomotives. My wife & I then took a ride from Woss to Beaver Cove with a loaded logging train in the cab of 302 and then, after changing locomotives and crew, in the cab of 303. Our sincere thanks to Canfor and their employees who made us so welcome. Without their help this video would not have been possible.
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@user-wu1ds2sz3w 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for preserving this piece of history. This was late in the game for the logging railroads but fortunately the technology had improved so we could go out and record these fast fading things in relatively good quality. Excellent video !!!

@RonStanek Жыл бұрын

Nice sounding engines with the dynamics. Seems alot quiter in the cab than I would imagine. Dynamics; option "premium" trucks nice sounding horn to scare bears with. Would be nice to see this video enhanced. Cheers!

@denisgray9639 3 жыл бұрын

#303 looks and sounds so good here. Sorry to see it yrs later after sitting out in weather and windows and doors left open. Was rusted and sad sight but was saved to go on display there finally. Rails all gone too now. Was a good rail operation for long time.

@HMSHOOD1920 Ай бұрын

It was all torn down because of an accident. And then switched to shitty fucking trucks. Trucks that ruin the roads.

@joebarbjb6668 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! I never worked around logging trains, but I did a lot of mountain logging in Idaho, and Washington, I loved every minute, and every memory.

@LowLightMike 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you David. Now, more than ever, this video is so important. (because of the railway's removal, in summer 2020)

@bigpapa8152 3 жыл бұрын

So true. The tracks are all ripped up, nothing left but these videos.

@danielfantino1714 Жыл бұрын

Well you where lucky enough to see and record it. In Québec we lost the Thurso & Nation Valley (T&NV RR) 1926-1986 that was 56 miles long. Only the first 26 were in use in the last years behind GE 70 tons. Some log cars with truss rods and arch bars trucks dated back from the begining and used as idlers betwen two loaded ones. Trees were longer than flat cars needing those idlers. Some had K brake valves. All cars had hand brakes removed. One had even an axle wheel with rivets for tire replacing. May be from a tender, i don´t know. 1 scrapped GE unit was transformed in a crane with fuel tank reused in Duhamel for speeders. Their GE 45 tons and Office car 27, a short 35 feet long former CPR business car builted in 1907 was purchased in 1929. Both are preserved by Bytown Railway Society in Science &Technology museum in Ottawa ON. Original rails were 60 pounds, replaced by 80 later on. Connecting with CPR, they purchased a lot of things from them, including 2 wood cabooses. If you Google Collin Churcher you´ll find history, sort of log book, photos, etc... Funny notes. In the last week of planned railroad operation, 2 loaded flats derailed while leaving loading point 26 and fall on embakment. Delays for trying to salvaged them and failed on soft ground, made the last train on saturday instead of friday. When the last one left for good, the flashing signal stayed on long after train departure. The.T&NV RR ghost tryied its best to keep it alive refusing to die ! Really miss that line.

@jamesstuart3346 2 жыл бұрын

For those of you who have never been to Canada, this is a typical urban downtown area. Wait till you get to the outback!

@hanksenkow7313 11 күн бұрын

EXCELLENT HISTORICAL VIDEO. THANKS!

@gordonvincent731 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a retired engineer. I noticed at 27:10 he made a brake application, and his independent brake handle has a wedge in it!! That's a no no really, only if the road foreman saw it. I wonder why he is stretch braking, and not using his dynamic brake?

@gangesexcavating 4 жыл бұрын

All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

@dh-_1011 4 жыл бұрын

Well I can’t imagine the dynos are that great on an SW1200, it seems he’s going uphill so I wouldn’t want to bunch up my train going uphill, and maybe he is one of those old heads that uses air and that’s it. As for that “automatic actuation feature”, the newer GE’s will dump the train (or suppress, I can’t remember) if the actuator is held down for more than 90 seconds. I’ve never had it happen to me, but I know someone that has! That’s on the ES/ET 44AC’s. Not sure about the new EMD’s, haven’t ran one yet (SD-70ace-t4).

@robertmielke1753 6 жыл бұрын

EXellent vid TY. ! The last logging RR on Van.Isle from a vast network that once existed. I studied the Comox Valley R.R ; they even had Shay locies that would climb hills in a sort of 4 wheel drive steam mode. TY! good stuff.

@metalmicky 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video David , giving me lots of information to build my HO gauge model railroad logging line.

@catslave776 8 жыл бұрын

David thank you for the memories l drove up there many times from Campbell River and watch them onload at Beaver Cove to make booms to towe them down to the mills. Love all your vids good job.

@david-othen 8 жыл бұрын

Many thanks. Glad the videos brought back good memories.

@davidpoor8638 9 жыл бұрын

Another super one David!!! Thank you!

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome

@allanegleston13 8 жыл бұрын

this would have been my neck of the woods in the 1960s both steamies and deisels working together .. in the end ,, all were replaced by trucks that couldnt go on standard highways and later regular trucks.

@david-othen 8 жыл бұрын

+allan egleston I thought that some of the SW1200s had been rebuilt and were still in operation.

@allanegleston13 8 жыл бұрын

this would have been the old pickering and west side lumnber co in tuolumne california 60 years ago

@david-othen 8 жыл бұрын

+allan egleston Not quite Vancouver Island British Columbia Canada!!!

@alanhardman2447 5 жыл бұрын

@@david-othen - Yup! Obviously, these are CanFor trains.

@alanhardman2447 5 жыл бұрын

@@allanegleston13 - I do hope you meant this is what it would have looked like in California sixty years ago... This is a Canadian railroad - CanFor.

@rjl110919581 5 жыл бұрын

thank you for great detail real operation on short line railroad and share this other

@vegasfordguy 8 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed watching this! Very cool train and beautiful scenery.

@david-othen 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes unusual locomotives and a well run railway operation that has successfully survived for many years.

@ragedaddy397 8 жыл бұрын

I've seen better locomotives, but the scenery is breath taking

@robertjackson6932 5 жыл бұрын

Wonderful video great job

@elonmust7470 4 жыл бұрын

This is really really cool!

@robertjackson8905 8 жыл бұрын

great video have a good day

@david-othen 8 жыл бұрын

To Mykhaylo Slobodyan: Glad you enjoyed it. There is a similar bridge at gypsum mine in Milford, here in Nova Scotia. I guess they are more common on industrial properties.

@christuttle3980 4 жыл бұрын

Just was up at Ida lake noticed they started ripping up the tracks by hyw19 To bad they closed this rail line down going to miss it

@PGE564 6 жыл бұрын

Nice job, would like to see more of this railway!

@gangesexcavating 4 жыл бұрын

All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

@markmcc78 7 жыл бұрын

at the first crossing, I counted 30 log cars, plus the caboose, with one midsized locomotive!? wow, can that haul all those cars fully loaded?!?! that's amazing

@francoislepine4698 3 жыл бұрын

well.....it's all downhill !!!....Vernon Lake sits at about 1000' elevation....Beaver Cove is, of course, at sea level

@mykhayloslobodyan1250 8 жыл бұрын

I guess a shared bridge at 30:27 is pretty unique. Good video, thanks.

@tolovesophia 9 жыл бұрын

i thoroughly enjoyed this.

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

Great. Glad you did!

@TOPWOP999 9 жыл бұрын

Not much has changed. There are about a 3 hour drive from me. Still going strong.

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

Nick A Thanks Nick. There were rebuilding one of the units (304 IIRC). Have the other units been rebuilt?

@hwoods01 3 жыл бұрын

3612?! That's a huge motor. I'm guessing it was a 3512. The 3512 is about 1500HP's. The 3612 is just too massive in physical size and its around 5000HP.

@VancouverIsland1 9 жыл бұрын

Speeder Cars Leaving Duncan,Vancouver Island Canada

@baronlocal8569 7 жыл бұрын

Interesting image in this movie from min : 29:07 30:15 - bridge for car and train like trams

@100_blackrock7 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, really enjoyed that thanks. I've been to Vancouver Island and traveled on the Via Rail RDC. Long time ago now. Really sad to see that this railway is abandoned. What will happen to it? What will happen to the locos? Sad to see trucks taking over with all the concerns about carbon footprints etc. etc.

@HMSHOOD1920 2 жыл бұрын

The entire strain system was ripped up. There’s nothing there anymore.

@BNforever2009 9 жыл бұрын

wow!! This is interesting !!

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

BNforever2009 This railroad is still operating.

@mikeb4261 7 жыл бұрын

Nice spark arresters

@dorothyfishbaugh4728 4 жыл бұрын

I thought this was an awesome train action video!

@gangesexcavating 4 жыл бұрын

All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

@indonesiaincamera6196 8 жыл бұрын

nice video

@david-othen 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@pjcroziersmith 10 жыл бұрын

David, nice video!! I have not been up there since the 1980's. I think though you will find that it is Nimpkish not Nimkish

@david-othen 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul. You are of course correct. Another senior moment.

@kylewalker2160 4 жыл бұрын

Was this narrow gauge track? The ties were very close together in some places so wanted to ask.

@SgtMaj22 6 жыл бұрын

A shame they are shutting this down, very sad.

@alanhardman2447 5 жыл бұрын

So, what is the small "car" behind the locomotive(s) or sometimes at the caboose end? Is that for loading/unloading crew or some such?

@rich-wg5lb 4 жыл бұрын

It appears to be a transfer caboose commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CR_18065_IN_Porter.jpg#mw-jump-to-license

@JohnNyren65 9 жыл бұрын

Is that near Port Hardy?

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

Yes It is about 100 Km South East

@rjl110919581 7 жыл бұрын

THANKS VIDEO AS GREAT SEE HOW LOGGING RAILROAD WORKING LINE

@captainrogergcam 9 жыл бұрын

The caption at 1:47 is wrong. They were en-route to Woss Reload, not Siding 4. They are just going past the "Junction" switch. The through route would have them going up "K-Line" to Maquilla or Vernon.

@captainrogergcam 9 жыл бұрын

captainrogergcam Crossing Gold Creek Bridge caption should be Ann Creek Over Pass.

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

captainrogergcam Thank you for the corrections. I am afraid I do not know the area and I had to rely on maps for the captions.

@captainrogergcam 9 жыл бұрын

David Othen Sorry for the delay. Hi. I am one of the engineers on this railway. Unless we are shut down for heat, or they set me RTC-ing. You should check us out. We are friendly and a ride can be arranged. Let me know if you are interested in coming this way. Summers are sketchy, as dry weather shuts the woods down and we have nothing to haul. Already lost last week due to the weather, though we are back again this week. Day by day.

@LRF152 4 жыл бұрын

What is the horn at 2:00

@kisavage7531 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like it's some kind of Nathan M5.

@CNR-pw1rj 9 жыл бұрын

Could you tell me .What does that place look like today? After 18yrs...Are they still logging.And is it by rail...When I see something like this,it's new to me.Like it was just filmed the other day....lol It's so beautiful.

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

C.N.R. 42032 I live about 3000 miles away so I have no direct observations! However I believe the company is still logging on that part of Vancouver Island and that a few trains still operate.

@captainrogergcam 9 жыл бұрын

C.N.R. 42032 Yes. We are still in operation. I am off of the Night shift, and in 4 hours the Day shifts will be working. Today! Now.

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update. Great to know that the railway is still doing what it was built to do.

@gangesexcavating 4 жыл бұрын

All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

@gwr1475 10 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if there are still in operation?

@david-othen 10 жыл бұрын

As far as I know they still are in use and at least three of the four now have CAT engines

@ian.whaley 10 жыл бұрын

David Othen Yes, 303 is the parted out spares unit. The other 3 have CAT rebuilds.

@david-othen 10 жыл бұрын

CarolinaRailWorks Thanks for the update.

@gangesexcavating 4 жыл бұрын

All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

@KTrainz 10 жыл бұрын

David Othen what was the schedule for these trains

@captainrogergcam 9 жыл бұрын

K Trainz We ( I work here ) don't have a schedule. Though arguably the third largest railway in Canada, we have to be flexible to the woods operations. This includes weather. Road construction ( blasts ). Helicopters ( Yeah, that one catches a few by surprise..they log with them and sometime carry the logs over the tracks ) and a whole bunch of other surprises that we don't even know of yet.

@StumpjumperVideosPA 9 жыл бұрын

very good!!!

@david-othen 9 жыл бұрын

StumpjumperVideos Thank you - glad you enjoyed it.

@fredericksorrell1534 6 жыл бұрын

Nice

@gangesexcavating 4 жыл бұрын

All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

@bobaustralia3 8 жыл бұрын

Those cylinders on top of the diesels are they gas cylinders?.

@david-othen 8 жыл бұрын

+bob hoswell They are the air reservoirs for the braking system.

@gordonvincent731 5 жыл бұрын

Air reservoirs

@jamesshanks2614 8 жыл бұрын

Why did they rebuild the locos with cats? The EMD 567 could easily be rebuilt with 645 liners heads and Pistons Emissions?. I have nothing against cats but just curious? Retired Boston & Albany railroad engineer Thanks

@gangesexcavating 5 жыл бұрын

Loggers like Caterpillar. Finning is strong on North Island.

@als1023 5 жыл бұрын

@@gangesexcavating true that Finning has always had a large presence on Vanc island, I remember when i started at island Copper in 72, Finning was very big there. Many other suppliers too, but they owned the tracked dozer market until Alice Chalmers brought in the HD 41. The haul trucks came with Jimmies, but were being replaced with Cat engines quickly. The new 170T trucks came with cat engines.

@alanhardman2447 5 жыл бұрын

@@als1023 - Hey, fella, that's "Allis-Chalmers"! No girlie-boy names on that orange stuff...

@devernepersonal3636 6 жыл бұрын

This is amazing! man I wish they hadn't killed this railroad.

@gangesexcavating 5 жыл бұрын

I wish the railroad didn’t kill the work crew!

@jamesd2128 4 жыл бұрын

@@gangesexcavating Deferred maintenance by WFP helped in no small part creating the conditions at the reload that caused the tragedy. WFP wanted the railway dead, and they got their wish.

@elonmust7470 4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesd2128 what happened?

@jamesd2128 4 жыл бұрын

@@elonmust7470 Runaway loaded log cars at the reload site ran downgrade and killed three railway workers a short distance down the tracks. WFP immediately shut down the railway after the incident, first calling it an indefinite closure and then dropping the bomb months later, saying they were switching solely to truck hauling for economic reasons. I call bullshit on WFP's decision making process, but that's what they wanted and thats what they got.