The cast of "Dynasty" accepts the 1986 award for Favorite Drama.
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@meetrajput8932 жыл бұрын
Who came here after watching The Graham Norton Show?
@Davy.J.Y2 жыл бұрын
Me !
@Chicoandtheman2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahah me!!
@shacks292 жыл бұрын
Me too LMAO
@sluttyforjake87002 жыл бұрын
lmao me
@chrismozer7022 жыл бұрын
I did
@IsaiahCarroll952 жыл бұрын
John was FUMING, you can see it in his face... what a Diva he was 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@shaunwakefield9793 Жыл бұрын
Obviously not the Gentleman we all thought he was.
@ntg198011 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Harry-fk5of2 ай бұрын
He didn't seem angry at all haha what an over exaggeration
@JoezBro16 күн бұрын
Overexaggeration indeed. In other words, a Dynasty style comment 😜
@jeh5002 жыл бұрын
Great that Joan had the presence of mind & professionalism to rise to the occasion & be gracious. Someone inadvertently handed the award to her first. Forsythe took offense & then "refused" to speak after Joan treated him with respect & professionalism. Linda & Diahann just stood there - and stood there. The show would have been cancelled if not for what Joan Collins brought to it.
@anthonybiggs65562 жыл бұрын
Have just seen Dame Joan on the Graham Norton chat show talking about this moment. Apparently when they all went up on stage the girl handed the award to Joan, she looked over to John to come and make the speech but he wouldn’t as he’d already taken offence that they had handed the award to Joan. She said a few words, being the professional she was and then tried again to get Forsythe to speak but he refused and said “you’ve already said enough”… After this awards show he sulked for months and wouldn’t speak to Dame Joan for nearly a year! Jealous Prima Donna springs to mind.
@matthewhess35492 жыл бұрын
Same I just saw that too
@leighewinson94732 жыл бұрын
Me too
@meganbecker2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@PandaPowerable2 жыл бұрын
I had to search for this clip after I saw that interview and she did nothing wrong at all....he was the diva!
@winny84202 жыл бұрын
Just seen that on Graham Norton
@TheTaodee6 жыл бұрын
That was so cring-worthy. Joan did call On John, but he just stood there. She knew someone had to speak, so why not her. I think it was more than alright that she did, considering her impact on the show/
@mhand002 жыл бұрын
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@sittingbull6372 жыл бұрын
@@mhand00 haha, I’ve done exactly the same as you! Needed to see it and how he responded. 😄
@nanaberry41202 жыл бұрын
It is so cringey. What a colossal jerk… well done, Joan Collins.
@user-od5pz6im9s Жыл бұрын
indeed the first season without Alexis was boring
@Mexicobeanpole2 жыл бұрын
That was awkward AF. Joan called on John to step up. When he didn’t. She spoke. Then she even tried to “ego stroke” him by calling him the big boss. But, he still acted like a big baby. Any woman over 50 has experienced this with more than one man. Lol. He was ridiculous.
@nomik4568 Жыл бұрын
THE PROBLEM MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE. Joan was taught that every man was at her beck and call, Forshyte wasn't like that. Maybe he really did not like her, and this aroused in her aggression resulting from the rejection of her as a woman? Then out of frustration she would say after he died that he was a misogynist and stuff like that.
@tbec3011 Жыл бұрын
@@nomik4568 Darn you Joan! You should let the "man" handle business. -Lol So what if your character Alexis helped save the show from early cancellation, stay in your lane! -Lol Now moving on to our next presenters, Ozzie and Harriett.
@CBoapinta9 ай бұрын
@@nomik4568 please take your sexist BS somewhere else
@rah17218 ай бұрын
Actually, she deserved what she created in that moment. Always up first to grab at the award and try to have her say when John had been asked to accept the award. That was her egocentric personality addicted to the spot light, being first and being clapped. It is pathetic.
@keenahansel91042 ай бұрын
There's nothing like the big, bad male ego. How dare Joan, a mere woman, accept the award. Never mind that she had more talent than all of them combined and she single-handedly saved Dynasty from certain cancellation and saved all of their jobs.
@tjames96989 жыл бұрын
Forsythe was always accepting. Collins deserved her chance to speak.
@user-ih9it5bu4i2 ай бұрын
she deserved to speak . She made Dynasty a big success , not John
@rain73ful5 жыл бұрын
All the more proof that Joan Collins was that show.
@latinguy675 жыл бұрын
agreed
@antoniocarminati96943 жыл бұрын
"And how much we love each other" 🤣
@erin21492 жыл бұрын
Graham Norton brought me here! Lol
@tomislavb.54702 жыл бұрын
She's been telling this story for over 30 years now and Norton brought you here?
@DynastyMoments12 жыл бұрын
It was definately Joan Collins who made the show work - without her it lacked so many vital primetime ingredients!
@SFBenjaminK3 ай бұрын
remember show was close to cancel and then move it up and down to different nights till brought her in and show hit number one week after everything jacked up, but they asked first Sophia Loren but she turned it down, she wants a lot of money
@DynastyMoments12 жыл бұрын
He did the acceptance speech a couple of years before! Why on Earth wasn't it OK for Joan to do it?!
@AnasSyriano2 жыл бұрын
Cuz they were sexist back in the day
@stephenguppy34662 жыл бұрын
Forsythe had a hissy fit. He had been told that he would be handed the award and that he would be making the speech. Someone on stage handed Joan award and Forsythe didn't speak to Joan for the whole of the following season. She told the story on tv last week.
@IjeomaThePlantMama2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenguppy3466 well maybe his slow ass should have hopped up to the stage faster!
@miguel-angelsalazar7517 Жыл бұрын
Probably because she is a woman and he was “the boss”. Otherwise I don’t understand why would he take offense
@milesbrad99752 жыл бұрын
Graham Norton Show bought me here
@tallulahdarling9 жыл бұрын
They didn't speak for months after this incident. Very petty of John but thats actors egos for you. She speaks of it very amusingly in an interview she did for the Charles Grodin Show (also on youtube).
@simon500511 жыл бұрын
Goodness gracious, that was awkward! But, still fabulous!
@maineindividual520211 жыл бұрын
Forsythe gave the speech in previous years. Collins did it this time. Big deal? These people should have been kissing this womans FEET for being able to stay working for 9 years. The show was dry as hell before she came on season 2 and everyone knows it!
@tbec30112 жыл бұрын
Forsythe was seething in the background. Lol
@lol36512 жыл бұрын
@scorpio888 I don't see what Joan did to be unprofessional at all. She looked to John Forsythe before she spoke and said "John?" but he wasn't coming to the podium. She also said "Linda?" and Linda Evans wavered far too long for live television. Joan Collins simply didn't want the entire cast to look stupid on live television so she took the lead when the other two didn't. And show me a press release and/or video of the 1984 Emmys and then I'll believe you.
@JC-dz3kv2 жыл бұрын
Well, she did try to give it to Forsythe and she tried to refer to him as the big boss.
@DeepScreenAnalysis9 жыл бұрын
I don't know why John was so angry with Joan - after all, he had traditionally made the acceptance speech at these awards. Why not let Joan do it for a change? How arrogant & petty!
@vladanciaga37075 жыл бұрын
She made this fucking show, they'd all be without a job if it wasn't for her. Arrogant, petty and ungrateful.
@plumeria663 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it. He could’ve stepped up when Joan asked him but he declined and stood back so why would he get mad about it?
@melissakyhlens1453 Жыл бұрын
@@plumeria66 Misogyny and being a male chauvinist as well as a big baby and a diva made him pout like that. 🙄🤦🏻♀️ Deep down he knew very well that if it hadn’t been for Joan Dynasty would be nothing she made the show iconic. 🔥
@rah17218 ай бұрын
@@plumeria66 She deliberately usurped in the situation. Why should he kowtow to her after that stunt!! Good on him.
@joancollins5411 жыл бұрын
I agree with unclemilty69 and in SHOWBIZ you have to improvise and AD LIB and Joan being a professional saw that and behaved PROFESSIONALLY. I can't say the others did the same thing, especially the way they treated her. One word comes to mind: JEALOUSY. While the main characters were originally to be BLAKE AND KRYSTAL lets face facts, the show flopped until JOAN showed up and saved it! The show really was held together by ALEXIS! I met JOAN and she is a lovely, professional actress.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
Rubbish. She wanted to usurp things and it is clear by her behaviour from other award ceremonies. The fool she made of herself that day was deserved. The true improviser was John, who having recognised the 'hostile takeover' (definitely premeditated) let her have everything she created!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
@tonyktown4 ай бұрын
It does my heart good to know there was real tension, it makes the drama between the characters just that much more enjoyable. STILL a fan of this show!!
@user-ih9it5bu4i2 ай бұрын
she deserved to speak . She made Dynasty a big success , not John
@DeepScreenAnalysis5 жыл бұрын
Loved seeing how close Diahann and Linda were.
@georgieorgy55896 жыл бұрын
His crying face in the back!!!
@carlosillustrates2 жыл бұрын
What a small man
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
Because of what Joan said on Graham Norton? Judging from this clip Joan's recollection of it on Graham Norton is not entirely accurate. Her words on Norton, (John) 'She said enough.' What he actually said was, 'No, you said it.' Joan then recounts how John 'walked off' but he doesn't do that at all in this clip. Another slightly off detail in the Norton interview: Joan mentions John's age as being 62 at one point during her run of Dynasty. John turned 62 in January 1980 and before Dynasty. John would've been 63 when Joan came aboard as Alexis.
@carlosillustrates2 жыл бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh his and her face says it all.
@Garsons-oq4lh Жыл бұрын
@@carlosillustrates So their faces. Joan was still confused obviously and misremembered details about this specific People choice awards ceremony. How does she get away with that or no one calling her out for her gaffe.
@Usernameusername2062 жыл бұрын
You could see John mumbling something, and looking pissed before Joan called him.
@michaelmuldowney82 жыл бұрын
Joan Collins has said that John Forsyth didn’t speak to her for a year after this.
@That_Random_Bloke Жыл бұрын
Go on Joan 🤣🤣🤣
@JayJay-nc7pr6 жыл бұрын
Awkward!! To be fair Joan did try to make John speak
@MarkSmith-re4he2 жыл бұрын
Love the tension 😂
@soapwonder22842 жыл бұрын
What was it with “It’s a tie” in the 80s? First and second favourite! At many award shows! It’s ridiculous! But great clip! Thanks! Hilarious that nobody wants to take that heavy monster from Dame Joan! LOL
@somewereinwisconsin5 жыл бұрын
ouch!!!! I think Joan was fine in speaking, but the rest of the crew seemed kind of jelly about it. yikes!!!!! Kind of hard to watch!
@billhosko7723 Жыл бұрын
Yep... bunch of weaklings who became lucky in a high power show.
@maineindividual52024 жыл бұрын
This makes no sense if you watch the 1984 same exact award show when he and she stand side by side and joke and laugh together as the award is presented. I think they had a love/hate relationship and got on each others nerves alot is all it was
@slc24664 жыл бұрын
Nobody puts Alexis in a corner- she puts everyone else there.
@dovemendez31325 ай бұрын
Came here after watching the graham nortorn show where Joan spoke about John lol 😂😅
@grant10884 ай бұрын
Diahann Carroll had so much class that was my girl miss her so much 2024 missing you ❤❤.
@stephenrafter19806 ай бұрын
Without Joan Collins, that show was nothing, she brought glamour fighting. Perfect TV. Joan was the star. Xxxx
@Rowi7312 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for Joan.
@briansilkworth5486 Жыл бұрын
Joan Collins saved Dynasty and made it the phenomenal success it became. John Forsyth should have been more appreciative of the money she brought to the show; including his own salary which was higher than hers for most, if not all, seasons.
@user-od5pz6im9s Жыл бұрын
indeed the first season without Alexis was boring
@surrealist19762 жыл бұрын
John seeing Joan as Alexis
@teresacarvalho61292 жыл бұрын
Because of that, he didn't speak to her for a whole season! What a sook
@devinelivelive37132 жыл бұрын
We loved you too.
@MaxiMeixner4 ай бұрын
John Forsythe you can't come back into the world for me... I would celebrate you
@matty862 жыл бұрын
Men are such BABIES! The hostess HANDED Joan the award, so she said a few words and then tried to give it to John who UNGRACIOUSLY refused, despite the fact he’d accept it and speak every year. Can someone else get a chance Johnny boy? What mean old man.
@Garsons-oq4lh Жыл бұрын
What are talking about? How did John in this clip ungraciously refuse? He doesn't react negatively the way Joan described on the Graham Norton show.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
Complete rubbish! The producers wanted him to accept it, but, as usual she rushes up onto stage, to be first, gets the award, and has her little say, instead of waiting for John as the producers wanted, and then looks a fool when he is annoyed and leaves her hanging. Her ego was so out of control that she would or could not help herself. Pitiful.
@gerardmackay89096 ай бұрын
@@rah1721 Good grief are we watching a separate video. She WAS the damned show, how many more times does that need pointing out, and she was handed the award and who gives a toss that it was ‘Mr Ego’ who wanted, YET AGAIN, the limelight for the third year running. I spent time working in TV and films and they ALL have egos but John Forsythe’s was off the charts. He owed his fortune to Joan Collins because, without her arrival, that show was toast! and instead of being grateful it ate him alive. Nobody but nobody tuned in to watch that old wooden ham in 1986 it was Alexis all the way.
@rah17216 ай бұрын
@@gerardmackay8909 It's not about the history of the show. It's about the arrangements made by the producers for the reception of the award. Talented she may be, but out of step with the plans and the rest of the cast....and deliberately so.
@gerardmackay89096 ай бұрын
@@rah1721 I think I’m calling for a bit of proportion here. Your initial input ‘out of control ego, pitiful..’ is way too strong. If, as you say, the ‘producers’ wanted JF to AGAIN pick up the award (not entirely sure of your source on that), I would say that by 1986, THAT is completely out of line, and probably done to keep massaging the ego of a vain, temperamental, not to mention paranoid, Diva (and we are NOT talking Collins). To draw a direct comparison, when Dallas began in 1978 the dramatic arc and main characters were well and truly written to be, Bobby Ewing and Pamela Barnes (a modern day Romeo and Juliet marriage disapproved of by both families). Three years later the undeniable, unquestionable star of Dallas was Larry Hagman/ JR Ewing and the rest of the cast, as well as the producers, both knew it and accepted it gladly because he guaranteed the show’s longevity (nicer people all round than the bitchy Dynasty cast who were at each others throats behind the scenes). That Collins was still accepted to stand graciously by as an ‘also ran’ when that dull non entity insisted on hogging the limelight is ridiculous. Any show with a cast like that regularly share speeches, she spoke for no more than 20 seconds and there was NOTHING to stop him saying ‘Thank you well said Joan and here’s my few words’ but oh no he threw the hissy fit from hell and blanked her for a year. Small, small man.
@ayeupmeduck212 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised that Linda stepped forward and was a little gracious, she was going to do that, or so it seemed, a few times. I just do not get the dynamics of them all.
@patricodesouza74533 жыл бұрын
WHEN WAS THE EXACT BROADCAST OF THIS PLEASE🙏?!!
@sampanamwawa66552 жыл бұрын
Here from Graham
@andrewking81743 ай бұрын
❤❤❤Dame Joan!!!❤️❤️❤️🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈She is a class act!!! John was so petty to make the situation so awkward given the fact that it was the fans who voted!!!
@ewokander2 жыл бұрын
Joan's a class act, John...no so much.
@Garsons-oq4lh Жыл бұрын
Based on Joan's take on the Graham Norton show no doubt and not based on this actual clip from the ceremony she references.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh Indeed! She totally tried to steal the show - as usual. John was just sick of it and left her hanging.
@ForeverCarrington11 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure when they fired her. I know she asked for a relatively modest salary increase and they wouldn't give it to her. I really wish they would've kept her because I loved her in that role. And, no, unfortunately I don't have any interviews with her. Sorry!
@rocheanspencer99794 жыл бұрын
When they fired who
@byronharkey91664 жыл бұрын
Fired who???
@lindakristinekjrlibraten57592 жыл бұрын
Catherine Oxenberg. It's a question below.
@dave101smith2 жыл бұрын
What a petty man John was. Poor Joan.
@dayzofdrama12 жыл бұрын
But he wasn't coming up to the podium too quick and she did prompt him with "John?"
@davidfallon60182 жыл бұрын
John was a preck
@dananicole3969 Жыл бұрын
John looked so pissed,he should be happy joan took that show too a level that it wouldn't have ever gotten too,joan saved that show years before this silly behavior.
@trainerlad13 жыл бұрын
To be fair there was a lot of pretty ladies in that show. But Linda Evans was just a natural beauty her eyes and her grace on stage and off.
@jennyjohnson7751 Жыл бұрын
The big Boss was Joan!!!
@shacks2911 жыл бұрын
Didn´t they fired Catherine Oxenberg in 1986 or was that during the summer break before she got fired? btw. Do you have by any chance the Interview with Catherine Oxenberg which was the reason for her to got fired from Dynasty?
@Inyourlap5 жыл бұрын
She asked for a 5,000$ increase per episode which wasn’t that much considering the total costs of the show. Aaron Spellling wanted to limit these costs because ratings were not as good as the years before and didn’t want the whole cast doing the same. So he went to the press and they announced “Oxenberg: Terminated”. That’s how she found out she was fired. And the replaced her by an American unknown actress who was fired mid season. Then the Amanda character was completely erased from the story and Blake and Alexis only talked about their 3 children (instead of 4). Catherine Oxenberg talked about it a few years later and she was not bitter about it. Just detached and amused about how the show business works.
@CiaoChris4 жыл бұрын
@@Inyourlap Catherine just wanted to earn what Heather got. ABC wasn´t happy with her and I think Spelling wanted to give a sign for the other young cast members not to ask for more money.
@kbhprinsesse Жыл бұрын
Could anyone hear what the audience shouted at Joan Collins?
@almorrell8380 Жыл бұрын
How massively massively AWKS 😂 Go Joan 🎉
@sarahratliff4822 жыл бұрын
The Graham Norton show brought me here.
@BlytheWorld197212 жыл бұрын
@Rowi73 why?
@bethaniepender93396 ай бұрын
John obviously didn't know it was Joan who was the star...as a kid. I knew Joan Collins by name. I knew "that guy" as the voice of Charlie on Charlie's Angels. Lol
@BlytheWorld197212 жыл бұрын
@scorpio888 dynasty was really linda and johns show along with joan but in the beginning it was john and Linda that was what the show was about there love
@MancstaSam6 жыл бұрын
BlytheWorld1972 but the show was a flop in the first season until joan came in as alexis in season 2 she was pretty much the viewers favourite from then on.. Without joan the show probably wouldn't of made it past season 2.
@ForeverCarrington13 жыл бұрын
@Dynastiefr2 It's definitely a very awkward acceptance speech.
@marijadokoza83144 жыл бұрын
Heather Locklear....Sammy Jo....no1....tv star Forever....legends👍👍👍❤💕❤💕💋💋⚘⚘
@hutch1197 Жыл бұрын
My God, the anger in his face. How petty.
@eviyunachang39852 жыл бұрын
So the real drama is not Alexis vs Krystal but John vs Joan.
@darrenlloyd483523 күн бұрын
We are all here after Graham Norton 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shacks2911 жыл бұрын
I heard she asked for more money but they said no,later she talked about the bad salary in a interview and got fired the next day! Catherines "Amanda" was my fav along with Heather Locklear.
@Sleepingsparklegirl5 жыл бұрын
You should watch the e true Hollywood story on dynasty. Joan never was fired, she asked for a raise and got it at the time she was the highest paid female actress. John was very jealous because the show started as him being the star but once Joan came on it was clear that she was the show.
@triadafillos13 жыл бұрын
How rude and jealous of the colleagues of Joan!!!
@rah17218 ай бұрын
No! How rude of Joan to go against the decisions of the producers. She was always up there first trying to have her say. In all fairness they should have allowed her to be the recipient one year.
@georgiehollander2199Ай бұрын
If looks could kill.........( hey John )..............lol
@stevebbuk2 жыл бұрын
Joan is normally so immaculate with maquillage but she made a faux pas this time with that blanched pallor, and why not show your natural hair Joan on this occasion?
@saulomendez80183 ай бұрын
eiamos dinastia con graciela mihermana los domingo
@vapalaca Жыл бұрын
The boss was Joan and not John
@JayJay-ui1ni5 ай бұрын
I never liked John Forsythe , I'm pretty sure they could have found someone much better for the role of Blake. Joan Collins is one in 10 billion , she's awesomely talented and beautiful ❤
@rubenalvarado94122 жыл бұрын
When men say women are too emotional and they shouldn’t be put in leading roles… pffft. A LOT of older men are just like John. This is sooooo embarrassing for him, he acted like a toddler 😂
@jakestroll65182 жыл бұрын
A lot of men not just older men. Never been to a club where there wasn't atleast one scuffle over an accidental drink spill on someone or something as silly.
@supalognon6 ай бұрын
John Forsythe took offence that year apparently. However, the same award was given to Dynasty on 1984 and 1985 and Forsythe gave the acceptance speech both times. As a result, Collins did not even appear on stage for the very same award in 1987. Nowadays, we would say he is entitled. Forsythe was definitely the unsufferable diva of the series.
@dananicole3969 Жыл бұрын
Geez ,joan just happened too get there first she tried too give it to John that's kinda ,petty of him.
@JBr1ght6 ай бұрын
Joan was dynasty. Fact!
@andrewking81743 ай бұрын
Damn!!! Sexism is still alive and well reading these comments! Dame Joan saved the show from being cancelled and John still got higher pay and in his contract it stated he got to be larger and front and center in all Dynasty photos!🏳️🌈❤️🏳️🌈❤️🏳️🌈 Sorry but what in the Hell would Dynasty have been without Alexis!!!
@halloweenville12 жыл бұрын
They are sabotaging Joan's moment, and trying to belittle her, but the only people on that stage that look like FOOLS, is them, because they know Joan is the REAL star, especially Linda Evans, who delivers the most limp half hearted Thankyou. cringe.
@halloweenville12 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. Joan asked Linda to join her at the desk, Linda shrugged her shoulders and said no, only then to just lean forward pathetically and make a halfhearted thankyou, she didn't step up to the mike as you said, she ignorantly just pushed her head forward, this is rude and obnoxious to the people there and to the audience, but she did it to offend Joan most importantly. you can think what you like, but i have my own opinion, thankyou.
@halloweenville12 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. Excuse me, i am not confusing her with anybody, my comment is my opinion, and it ISN'T any of your business, , so stop trying to correct me on my view, you can disagree all you like, but i don't appreciate being corrected by you, learn how to handle other peoples opinions, You like Linda, i don't, get over it.
@halloweenville12 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. No i am not confusing her, she acted obnoxious and rude in this video, while Joan acted like a professional, what are you talking about.
@halloweenville12 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. Are you another one of those bored lockdown idiots, who go around attacking peoples opinions, because you can't handle anyone with a different view to yours, are you REALLY that pathetic. keep provoking, it's hilarious watching your flaky liberal attitude play out. . Linda is a vile witch here, Joan is amazing, Hahahaha Deal with it numpty. you will never change it, Hahahhaa
@halloweenville12 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. Just as i guessed, an offended snowflake desperate for attention, instead of just accepting MY VIEW, you continually contact me to tell me i am wrong, offended little baby you are, how embarrassing.
@jo57122 жыл бұрын
He acted like a jerk
@Skinniest_Kween2 жыл бұрын
He embarrassed himself. Lost all respect.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
She embarrassed herself......her ego created that mess when she was not asked to receive and speak.
@ivorytower994 жыл бұрын
Joan and Michael B_lined it for the stage. She probably felt as though she was the reason for the award.
@overdozze12263 жыл бұрын
she was
@Toracube2 жыл бұрын
No Joan, no award.
@dazzlertyler2 жыл бұрын
And the best as*sh*ole is…
@Scorchy6662 жыл бұрын
Forsythe was a bit of a jerk. He was upset because the awards girl handed it to Joan first, so she gave the acceptance instead. Maybe if he weren't the last to get on stage and walked a little faster.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
Your last sentence is the clue......Joan deliberately always got up there first so that she could usurp things.
@1nhonho2 жыл бұрын
That "big boss" comment was shady though. 😏
@billhosko7723 Жыл бұрын
Nah... she could see John's face and thought her statement would freshen him up... It didn't, so Joan carried on a bit longer.
@AM-jm5ux2 жыл бұрын
She truly made the show not sure why John’s the big boss, typical male chauvinist society.
@annemariecoen3851 Жыл бұрын
What an arrogant man. She was gracious and offered for him to speak, but he declined and behaved childishly.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
She was not supposed to speak in the first place but raced up there first as usual to try and usurp things.
@gazetc3 жыл бұрын
Joan ever the glittering professional. Forsyth the old bitter misogynist.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
Dig a little deeper......
@gazetc8 ай бұрын
@@rah1721 I did, that's how I know that Joan is ever the glittering professional. And Forsyth the old bitter misogynist.
@rah17218 ай бұрын
@@gazetc It's actually the other way around. She created the mess by refusing to honour the wishes of the producers.
@jakestroll65182 жыл бұрын
He came to the stage LAST! Did he expect the presenter to ignore the 20 people on stage until he got there???? Plus Jackie (and Diahanne Carroll) were the reason for the shows popularity anyway.
@Linle9113 жыл бұрын
@Dynastiefr2 Wow, I'm very amazed to hear that. I would never have thought that John would be like that. But he really had no choice, Joan immediately went to the microphone and spoke.
@trevorthompson76042 жыл бұрын
Sad to say the least I see my all time favourite actor in a different light now Joan called on him to say something he declined very imature and childish I thinks Joan Collins definitely made the show what it was it was slowly going down the Pan until Joan arrived
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
Oh please. Judging from this clip Joan's recollection of it on Graham Norton is not entirely accurate. Her words on Norton, (John) 'She said enough.' What he actually said was, 'No, you said it.' Joan then recounts how John 'walked off' but he doesn't do that at all here.
@poussinhamzah40132 жыл бұрын
Joan asked John to come forward but he didn't, I heard he was annoyed with Joan and didn't speak to her for some period after. If this is true then it is really sad, Joan was really professionnal and let's face it Dynasty would not have been a success without her.
@erichwyatt65542 жыл бұрын
John Forsythe had the class to not take up time and dismiss her request plus that many people on a stage was tacky . If they had all spoke we might just now be getting to Locklear .
@billhosko7723 Жыл бұрын
Pfft... KAREN here folks has her head in the sand.
@lesleyvermeir61205 жыл бұрын
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@dougcollins22763 жыл бұрын
They all made nasty comments about her at some point, linda later said “no, we were never friends. Why would I be friends w someone like her? “
@trainerlad13 жыл бұрын
Would that be the same Joan who sold Linda Evans dairy to the press ! That Joan to much up herself Linda is lovely loving natural beauty.
@TimeIdle3 жыл бұрын
That's b.s. b/c Joan and Linda reunited and did a traveling theater show together years later. And it was Joan who suggested Linda to co-star with her and Linda came out of retirement and did it.
@TimeIdle3 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. -- Well, they did an interview TOGETHER on Larry King (you can search on YT here) to promote the production where Joan explicitly said that she suggested Linda right in front of Linda. So unless she was telling a bald lie to Larry King (whom she is friendly and fond of)...
@TimeIdle3 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. - I honestly don't think anything you said helps anything. You said nothing that disproves the "fact" that Collins suggested Evans for "Legends", other than saying that she was lying. No producers on record said anything contrary. I've seen several interviews with Evans who repeatedly said there were not any nasty feuds between them during "Dynasty" and they were friends before the show and since. Doesn't mean that they're best of friends nor there never were conflicts while working together. And if Joan was so nasty like what the OP implied, then why would Linda return and do a show with Joan? Evans is not a type of celebrity who was ever desperate for acting work. The press has the tendency to make mountains out of moles and sometimes that's the deliberate intention from the shows' PR as well. I'm not here to defend Joan if she was ever a diva or not. I don't really know and really care.
@TimeIdle3 жыл бұрын
@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. - Thanks. I just saw it. Honestly, she didn't denigrate Linda at all. She said they are opposites and even used the word "compatriots" to describe their relationship. And the clip that Piers used to show what Evans said was kind of taken out of context. The press always wanted to pit them (like they do with many co-stars who are females) against each other to sell tabloids. It's sexist. But there's a far cry between "not the best of friends" and "arch enemies." And, again, if they were enemies back in Dynasty days, then why would they reunite and do a show years later?
@hardren101 Жыл бұрын
Joan spoke about this while narrating her own docu "This is Joan Collins" and she did share John barely spoke to her for the remainder of the season.....However "Prima Donna" does not spring to mind" with his behavior as there are sides to every story n we've only ever heard Joan's side. It was clear Joan/John had issues...During an interview (that's here on youtube) when Joan's name was mentioned...John insinuated there was no separation between Joan n Alexis.....Forsythe believed unequivocally that he was the star of Dynasty (He had clauses in his contract that stipulated where he would be position in any/all promo shots and that he would always be the highest paid cast member, 5% season 1-5/7.5% seasons 6-9) Joan received a significant increase at the start of S5 but it did not matter to John b/c of his clause.
@toniacook940111 ай бұрын
The producers made it known that john was to accept the award. If you watch, joan intentionally hurried up first. Joan had to be in a pissing contest with him. Joan was also known to actually be Alexis, all her life. A lot didnt get along with her on the set. With john, it was reported the opposite with him. She clashed with him, because of who she's always been. Read up on her, especially from a son. She's always been a complete narcissist.
@andrewking81743 ай бұрын
Yet Dame Joan saved the show from being cancelled… literally… It was not in the top 20 the first season and was in the top 10 season 2 when she came on board and would climb to number 1! And he still got paid more and had to be front and center and larger in every Dynasty photo!🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈