To me the most tragic character is Cao Zhen. He was one of Wei’s most successful generals and repeatedly defeated Zhuge Liang, but the RoTK novel wrote him into a loser and gave all of his achievements to Sima Yi. And that’s how history and the media treated him since then.

Sun Ce had very tragic story in a way. He just started his own kingdom, just take a rule from his killed father and died from a plot. And Zhou Yu his lost his best friend, tried his best to help his friend's brother, but been overvelmed by Zhuge Liang and died young.

My #1 would be Xun Yu. Imo, he pretty much build Cao Cao's army and was responsible for his rise to power. Because he was loyal to the Han and against Cao Cao's decision to become Duke/Chancellor/PM, he fell out of favor. RoTK say Xun Yu commited suicide after receiving an empty box from Cao Cao. I don't think that happen historically and I think DW9 stick with it.

I never really saw what happened to Yu Jin other than being an amazing commander. Truly a tragic loss to his name and pride, all in one fell swoop.

Zhen ji has a tragic life too! I love all these characters

Wei Yan had a record of betraying unworthy leaders. When zhuge liang was dieing he planned for ma dai to kill him because he foresaw him starting a rebellion in shu. This is according to the three kingdoms novel where all this is based off of.

A few "two cents" on some of the chaarcters in this list: Zhuge Dan: This one, like some, falls in the reason of his downfall being kinda weak due to changing real life or Romance of Three Kingdons moments to fit the chaarcters being moe noble. In this, it always irked me how he downspiral starts by hating/disliking of Sima Zhao due to the lost agaisnt Wu caused by Dan flawed plan and Zhao not calling out the problem or his fallings, cause it would be "a bother" or something like that (in short, lack of communication). Kinda unique of DW7 showing his fall from integrity by killing Wen Qin (in the game, implied they had a mutual agreement alliance, while Dan only being used in futher games) just because of his comparision to Zhao. Lu Bu: Pretty much the definition of "he reap what you show". He was a powerful warrior, but due to his mentality of only the strongest will prevail, he ended up backstabbing everyone he worked under. The contrast of mighty warrior and underwhelming execcution fits. I just wished the series started working more on his daughter, Li Lingqi, since she gave a good moment by saving her in his DW8 ending and she is a sad character. Yuan Shao: Agreed, not only that but I have the feeling they started to make him more of a idiot as well (example: Warriors Orochi 3 plot of him having former Orochi soldiers in his ranks that planned to backstab him). There is an argument that it was the later games trying to play his more indecisive or bad decisions choosing from historical events during his older yeras leading to Guan Du, but they coould've done it in a better way. Wei Yan: I've heard that the Zhuge Liang's distrust was more of a fictional invention, while in real life that was not the case (at worst, Zhuge probably just didn't agree with Wei Yan suggestion of taking more risks). In any case, the games have yet to do proprer on the "supposed" betrayal, due to the conflict nature of Wei Yan and Ma Dai in game characters vs ROTK. At worse, they always come to the excuse of Wei Yan not wanting to retreat or preventing allies from doing so; but even in the more recent games his scenario or Ma Dai have they talking things through so it is kinda weird for him to die like this. Liu Shan (a long orant): This one I have the major gripe and the only one I have hard time symphatizing with. My issue starts with the fact of the games, from DW7 onwars, simplifying Shu's downfall. They make it look lik they aree wasting resources in hopeless battles, when in actuality, there were a decent number of times they actually had sucess, but couldn't exploit the advantages due to the internal corruption within Shu forcing they retrat due to deniying supplies or reinforcements. This happned because after Zhuge Liang and his two chosen sucessors, Jiang Wan and Fei Yi, died; Liu Shan pointed Jiang Wei as chief in military operations and Huang Hao as chief in internal matters. Who was Huang Hao? A eunuch that Liu Shan brefriended and that was corrupt. This was the guy that, for his own greed and interest, denied Jiang Wei relief, and even, sometimes, actually sent messages under Liu Shan request (which were fake) ordering Jiang to return from the front to the Shu's capital, making Shu lose all the progress made. He also the guy that conviced Liu Shan not to send relief during the Wei invasion thorugh witchcraft and "future" readings. Funny how the games exclude Liu Shan being a fool post Zhuge's death as one of the causes and then put all the blame on Jiang Wei fallings and being too pushy, with the exception of DW9 (even in that game they have Huang Hao being a Villain with a Point trope, by blaming Jiang's endeavors agaisnt Wei a true waste of resources and motive for Shu's decline) . What I proably consider even worse is that in DW7 and DW7XL they made Liu Shan actually quite smart, who hides it to prevent being seen as a threat (in his unique stage, he, under simple words and "stupid" motives in battle, leads his Jin allies to acquire Juggernauts, rescue Shu prisioners who can help them, and even bait Jian Wei); but somehow he doesn't seems to do anything that would prevent Shu for going under before Wei's Invasion or actually trying to get the kingdom to surrender and spare the lifes of the other Shu characters alive at that point if he aadmitted the end was clear (funny how leaving his closer to his pre DW7 potrayal would have made it better in my eyes, at least that versions is a way over his head ruler trying to keep the dream alive as better he can, but realize the end as inevitable). And those are the true characters I feel that are more tragic: the remaining Shu officers that either die or worse: Yue Ying that lost her husband and is trying to guide the next generation; Ma Dai that had to kill his former friend/ally (Wei Yan) and keep going on long after Ma Chao died; Guan Sao and his wife Bao Sanniang, the former following his fallen father and brothers spirits and the latter being at her husband side (the games usually potray those two as too adorable); Guan Yingping for the same reasons as Suo but add the cute Bao on her on way; and Xing Cai, that went from the courageous daughter of Zhang Fei fighting to her last breath to Liu Shan loyal above all else wife that in the end is force to fight her former Shu allies since Shan decides to accompany he suppression of Zhong Hui's rebellion (the one of all of them I would choose as true contribution for this thread in regards to the video) . People may like or symphatize with Liu Shan due to him trying to live to his father benevolence and being "pushed" by Jiang Wei, but I see way more problems here because of the series trying to make him sympathetic and without blame which prevents me to feel sorry for him despite being a tragic character. Jiang Wei: Agreed. They probably did him dirty because they needed Shu to have a bad guy figure to the Jin's faction, which you plays as, to defeat due to him following to the extreme his idealism (being a "imbecile" how the Sima family would put). Kinda repating what I said above, but I hate his treatment and overall blaming by taking away the other side of Shu's corruption. Despite pushing Liu Shan he still is loyal to his liege, to the point I cannot help to wonder that they made actually believe that his and Liu Shan will s one and the same and have illusions of the reality that almost break when Shan gives any hint of opposiiton.

Xiahou Yuan is in my opinion very sad because such a cool character dies because his bow is broken

Amazing video, your Top 10 vids remind me why i got into Dynasty Warriors and loved it since i was a kid. Even looking back into the older games and how the series grown all put together in your channel its great stuff here. Makes me wanna go back and play the older games again too.

This is gonna be hype. Good top 10 idea!

I love your vids! Been binging them a lot lately!

A side of lu bu we didn't get to see, is some of his historical interpretation They say he was kind to women and to his men and fallowers. Some accounts mentioned him as the only sane person at that time he was cruel when delivering justice, but understanding to the need of the people.... hence his countless betrayals that were infused with his personal agenda.

Loved Xu Shus hoodie 🥲🤕

Solid list 🔥🔥

i think zhen ji is also a tragic character. guo nuwang blamed her and cao pi lost favor on zhen ji and killed her. zhen ji was a really kind and good women in real life. hope guo nuwang is in hell as not only she killed zhen ji she even put rice husks to her mouth so zhen ji can never talk again in her next soul as well as cover her eyes so that she can never see again in her next soul. Guo nuwang did terrible things to zhenji even after zhenji's death.

No love for Sun Shangxiang huh? She was torn between her husband (Liu Bei in Shu) and her birth family (in Wu), and ended up drowning herself in the river when she heard of Liu Bei's death.

You said exactly my same thoughts about Yuan Shao. It's not just his in-story character that makes him tragic, but also how they totally ruined him both design and personality after the PS2 era.

Your clips of DW9 actually makes me want to play more of it when I get the chance, I guess I was so disillusioned from the gameplay that I felt the stories would become cookie-cutter, but you showed some excellent scenes here dealing with individual characters. I agree with most of your list, that said I find your reasoning for Jiang Wei to be strange. That is historical. Jiang Wei was a zealot who lost himself in his desire to follow the dreams of the dead, there were so many in the Shu court that were against the campaigns and how much damage it eventually did to the kingdom at large. Sure he did accomplish some things. I've read some analysis recently that made me rethink whether his campaigns were truly all failures or not. The only reason he wasn't portrayed that way in DW2-5 is because the story never went past Wu Zhang Plains. Xu Shu's story in DW8 was fantastic, the implication that he would have burned willingly at Chi Bi if he isn't rescued adds a tinge more darkness to it all. I am also shocked to not see Xun Yu on the list. A man who saved Cao Cao time and time again because he believed that Cao Cao could restore the Han. Blind to his lord's ambitions and ultimately being betrayed, despite everything he accomplished. This to me is one of the most tragic stories of the era.

Amazing top 10 in the video and i agree 💯 dynasty warriors have a special place in my heart with the history of the three kingdoms ❤️❤️

Damn, ma boy Xu Shu made it to 2nd on your list :v I wasn't expecting much, considering how there are quite an amount of tragic ends, but seeing someone place his struggle so high up on the list is an unexpected surprise

First of awesome vid bro big thanx but no wen Yang still love vid

I agree with this list, but I will say despite how much I love Lu Bu, he was really asking for it. He was cruel, stubborn and treacherous. To his own men, as well, and ignoring Chen Gong was a fatal mistake and his backstabbing behavior caught up with him. Was it tragic? Somewhat, especially considering such a great warrior should deserve something better... But he didn't help himself with his behavior in the end either. Hot-head! I still get hyped up when I see team Lu Bu though (Lu Lingqi, Zhang Liao, Chen Gong, Lu Bu) I love DW8XL

Some examples I disagree with based on info with the novel. Lu Bu: Prior to his capture he has betrayed both Ding Yuan and Dong Zhuo. Granted the latter had it coming, but Ding Yuan is another story. He also betrayed Liu Bei by taking XuZhou from him (Zhang Fei drew a wedge against them but still). For all his fighting valour, Lu Bu became a coward in the face of death. When Lu Bu was under siege, he chose to stay by the side of his wives and not listen to his advisor, Chen Gong. He was also ill-tempered to his men, their low-morale fueling resentment for their leader. This reached a boiling point when he ordered Hou Cheng executed for wanting to celebrate a minor victory. The punishment was reduced to 50 lashes, but by then his subordinates had enough. While Lu Bu was asleep, they stole the Heaven Scorcher Halberd 方天画戟 and bundled Lu Bu over to Cao Cao. While Chen Gong and Gao Shun accepted death with dignityy, Lu Bu asked Cao Cao to allow him to surrender and he would be at Cao Cao's service. However Liu Bei quickly reminded Cao Cao of the fate of Lu Bu's previous masters, and Cao Cao ordered Lu Bu executed without hesitation. Lu Bu's treacherous nature bit him in the ass. Zhang Fei: Some of his comeuppance are caused by his own actions. He got drunk and abused his subordinates for quite some time. As mentioned above, his drinking habits caused Liu Bei A LOT of trouble back in the Lu Bu days, and since then it has festered for quite some time. After Guan Yu died, Zhang Fei ordered Zhang Da 张达 and Fan Jiang 范疆 to prepare mourning clothes for his entire army within 3 days. Both of them pleaded that it was impossible to accomplish. Zhang Fei put down an ultimatum: that they would be beheaded if it was not done in 3 days. Fearing for their lives, Zhang Da and Fan Jiang cut off Zhang Fei's head while he was asleep and surrendered themselves to the Kingdom of Sun Wu 孙吴. However, Sun Quan offered Zhang Fei's killers as a peace offering, to which Liu Bei rejected. Zhang Fei was both a fierce fighter with brawns and brains, but his hot temper, alcoholism and arrogance doomed him. Yuan Shao: During the Hulao Gate campaign, Yuan Shao refused to send a contingent to aid Cao Cao in his pursuit against Dong Zhuo. Instead he and the other lords were partying in the ruins of Luoyang when Cao Cao arrived in defeat. A rift has already been formed between the two, and during the Guandu campaign Yuan Shao had a force many times larger than Cao Cao (500K to Cao Cao's 70K), but yet he suffered a terrible loss. Cao Cao analyzed Yuan Shao as being unwilling to listen to his advisors, stubborn, and tolerating general disunity under his rule, as he not only tried to imprison Tian Feng, but also Xu You for trying to counsel him. Xu You's advise could've won GuanDu for Yuan Shao, but when Xu You defected to Cao Cao, it solidified Cao Cao's victory. Yuan Shao survived the battle, but subsequent defeats irreversibly weakened his army. After his death, Hebei was fragmented; which allowed Cao Cao to conquer the divided lords piecemeal. The kicker was that Yuan Shao's sons also died soon after (Yuan Tan was killed by Cao Cao, while Xi and Shang were executed by Gongsun Kang and their heads were sent to Cao Cao as a gesture of friendship to Cao Cao). More tragic characters would be Ma Chao, Zhen Ji and Lu Xun. Ma Chao lost HIS ENTIRE FAMILY before joining Liu Bei, save for Ma Dai. Zhen Ji was forced to commit suicide when she fell out of favor with Cao Pi. Lu Xun fell into disfavour of Sun Quan due to his support for Sun He 孙和 as crown prince. Sun Quan removed Lu Xun from office and had him reprimanded on many counts. Lu Xun died soon after from illness. For Jin, it'll be Wen Yang. After the 3 Kingdoms were reunited, Zhuge Dan's maternal grandson, Sima Yao (司馬繇), bore a grudge against Wen Yang for the downfall of his maternal grandfather so he falsely accused Wen Yang of plotting a rebellion with Yang Jun. Wen Yang was arrested and executed along with his family in 291.

From a historical perspective Zhang Ji, Zhen Ji and Sun Shang Xiang are the most tragic of the female characters. Of the male characters the most tragic is Guan Yu. A loyal man betrayed. You should do a video on the factions. A faction that deserves a spot in DW are the 12 eunuchs of the imperial court. They'd make an interesting faction of villains. Edit: Oh, You did that already.

I like Xu Shu And this solid list🔥 (But I think number 1 is Xun Yu)

Have you heard of "The Ravages of Time"? It is a manhwa drawn and written by Chen Mou. It delivers a different look on the Three Kingdoms and if you haven't read it, I highly recommend it.

Bro you didn't even honorable mention Sun Shangxiang. Her history is tragic, her in game story is tragic, and the character assassination Koei has done to her is tragic. She used to have a personality outside of being Liu Bei's waifu.

Number 1 should be Sun Quan losing his farther and brother so soon and being forced to be leader giving his sister the Liu Bei to make sure that they stay allies and being forced into a position not only to attack Cao Cao in Chi Bie but also He Fei which they took extreme casualties but also the fact that he lend Liu Bei Jing and never got it back from them which led him to betraying Shu and killing Guan Yu causing a war between them and making his bond with his sister toxic and that killing Guan Yu also led to the death of Lu Meng as well as down the line the deaths of Lu Su and Zhou Yu was all caused because of Shu in hindsight that’s why I believe that Sun Quan not only should of been on the list but number 1

Interesting topic 😀historical route has so many tragic stories. Yuan Shu's downfall, Wang Yi losing her children, Zhen Ji's fall from favor, SSX's true story and lets not talk about Xiahou Ji (seriously she should removed from roster). And honourable mention for Cao Mao, he was just 16 years old, he tried to take control but at the time Sima clan took all the power and that tragic teenager slaughtered. Ironically Sima descendents faced far worse fates. Another honorable mention is Emperor Shao older brother of last Han emperor, he deposed by Dong Zhuo and later forced to drink poison, cruel and sad end. Lastly Cao Ang and Cao Anmin (Cao Cao's eldest son and nephew), they died with Dian Wei, Young prominent warriors. Cao Ang even gave his horse to his father. 1-Liu Shan: He is not a good leader for sure but blamed for everything is ridiculous. Zhuge Liang's plan makes no sense in first place and despite all the odds, he still supported Jiang Wei. He called coward for preventing massacre. What people did expected? He doesn't have army to prootect capital (thanks Jiang Wei for another strategic blunder) and if he resisted Deng Ai destroyed them. I'm not fan of Shu kingdom but the game nailed his character, even historians judges him more fairly resently. 2-Cai Wenji: She is one of my favorites, I love instrumental weapons, I love Zhen Ji's flute but Cai Wenji's harp has better moveset. She is my ace character in Warriors Orochi 3, her musou wipes out enemies. I love her character design, her faint smile, innocent face, she is awesome. Her real life story is so tragic. 3-Wei Yan: Another reason for my dislike of Shu. This guy's unfair threatment is legendary. I actually like his barbaric character the game made for him and I like his moveset. His real historical life is a tragic one. Another note is if you betray your kingdom in DW Empires 8 you got traitor achivement and his portraid they used for this achivement 😄. 4-Xiahou Ba: He barely escaped from Sima clans purge and forced to serve his father's killers. That just showed how chaotic this era is. 5-Cheng Gong: Funnily they have one f the best tragic story but they never could use it. Game under used him, ROK version is not that good too but histrical version is really good. He was Cao Cao's first advisor, their ideas clashed and Chen Gong choose Lu Bu. Even after Lu Bu's downfall, Cao Cao still want him to return (even begged accrding to some rumors) but Chen Gong refused and choose execution. Another rumor is Cao Cao wept for his old friend. That's my choices, Xiahou Yuan and Dian Wei's deaths in DW7 are most emotional scenes but they are not tragic characters.

Jesus Christ almighty...Jiang Wei...I agree with him being on this list, and now I have a better understanding on why I dislike his character from DW 6-9 as opposed to him in DW 3-5. I also remember telling you that I would be replaying all of the DW games that I own to see where I feel Xiahou Dun went wrong for me personally. First I will say that as a character, with each new game he gets better. More backstory as well as more fleshed out interactions with other characters that show you where he stands. So there is nothing wrong with him as a character. On a gameplay perspective...again this is just my personal opinion. I think it started to go a bit wrong with DW 6. A weapon change from his scimitar to a two handed club was a bit weird for me, and despite my efforts, I could not really get used to it. From 7 onwards, new things got added like switching weapons as well as ex-attacks. These I got used to but after playing around with him holding a variety of different secondary weapons, they just didn't feel like they were his. Yes, any weapon works but I just like him using his scimitar, also from 7 and 8 I liked the ex-attacks he has as well as the range of motion with his base as well as charge attacks. Then there is 9...I don't like the combat in that game. I always try to use the movest that have been......INGRAINDED into my thumbs that I just don't like the combat gameplay whenever I do jump into it. And not just for Dun but for every character! IT just...!!!!! Ok. I don't like 9's combat. I'll leave it at that. Honestly, 9 did all the characters wrong in terms of combat gameplay for me but it started with 6 and the weapon swap. Sorry for the long winded rant but I said that I would try to find out why Dun felt wrong for me, and this is it.

Even before Jiang Wei joined Shu he was abandoned by the Wei Officers and the leader Xiahou Mao to which he was removed from command so Jian Wei going to Shu was largely Weis fault. Xu Shu is even more tragic when the mother thing was a ploy by Cao Cao to get him away from Shu and Liu Bei. Basically he was a prisoner of Wei they had Control of him but he never did a thing for Wei. And Xu Shus mother was upset with him that he fell for Cao Caos ploy. For me though it's Liu Yu he was genuinely good person was so loved by the people that he had no issues getting 100,000 civilians to fight against Gonsun Zan and Liu Yu ordered that no property was to be burned or damaged we fighting Gonsun Zan and pillaging was not allowed either. Unfortunately the first rule and the inexperience of the army lead to its defeat and Liu Yu would be later killed by Gonsun Zan.

Zhenji should be here. She was forced to commit suicide by Cao Pi.

Can you explain what happened to Cai Wenji? I don't know much about her, so it took me by surprise that she ended up on this list.

To me I think Guan Yu’s end was more tragic than Lu Bu’s. Lu Bu basically had this coming with his constant betrayals and killing people close to him. Guan Yu was betrayed by his own people because of how capable he was in battle and for shu to unify the land.

DW 3-5 Yuan Shao was such a great character.. He was so serious

Jiang Wei was tenacious with his northern campaigns after Zhuge Liang died historically. He launched up to 12 failed campaigns against Wei, depending on what source you get his bio from. They didn't depict how toxic he was in DW3-DW6, but you get to it from DW7-DW9. The toxicity of his persona wasn't a later invention. It was just brought to light at the later series. Even Liao Hua historically criticized the northern campaign. "One who does not refrain from using military force will end up burning himself.'" Historically, his story is tragic. He was unable to keep the dream of uniting the Han Dynasty going. In the end, as an old man, he supposedly died fighting while having a heart attack.

In the stories Zhang Fei was portrayed as a rather cruel commander who would often get drunk and violent with his him. And his death essentially culminates in having spent years dealing with his crap. His men in the end decided to kill him because he was threatening their lives. He was especially bad during that time because he was angry with mourning over Guan Yu. So lots of his own men would be beaten to a pulp by him or on his orders. I've always thought Zhang Fei should never have been given a generalship. He should have stayed with Liu Bei as a bodyguard, where Liu Bei could keep him in line.

Xu shu is so beautiful and shy love him ❤💚💚

every characters had their own tragic story. the difference is how koei wanted to develop the characters.

Prince Liu Chong, real Emperors uncle Liu Hong and gread uncle on Liu Xian(who taked by Cao Cao). He was crosbow expert and benevolent ruler of lands Chen and Xuchang(Cao Cao's capital of Wei). He was protecting his lands from Yellow turbans, help coalition with supplies vs Dong tyrrany. Unfortunally, he got beef with Yuan Shu, who proclaime himself as Emperor and demand supplies from Liu Chong. Ofc get middle finger from Emperors uncle. Yuan Shu hired Zhang Kai as assassin. First he poisoned Luo Jun, Liu Chong right hand and adviser. Then Yuan Shu attack Prince on Luo Jun's funeral. Without Prince Liu Chong protection, his lands devoured by chaos and been easily taken by Cao Cao. Koei never mention this character in their games, probably because he got almost same as Liu Bei.

I think DW7 sun Quan is a good shout, mainly because he loses most of he's friends and family the more the story of wu progress in the game.

Imo Zhuge Dan ranks higher than #10. Still, this doesn't mean I don't like these lists. They are great. Also, excellent OST selection!

I thought they ruined the series with dw9, it was just such a massive disappointment, i hope they do a modern take on the older games with dw10, and go back to stages instead of open world, that was the biggest mistake

The Sun lineage pretty much 😂

Lu Xun also had a tragic ending, although it has never been shown in the game. Long story short, he was considered a great hero after his contribution at the Battle of Yiling. However his interference on the dispute between Sun Quan's sons irked Sun Quan. In the end, he committed suicide.

刘禅Liu Shan is the least tragic in history. He failed his faithful retainers and his son, Liu Chen, and listened to Huang Hao, he prioritize hedonism and women over politics. He even said 乐不思蜀 to Sima Zhao. “I am happy here, why should I miss Shu?”. Perhaps that is his tactical disguise. He really know how to enjoy life, for which I would not say it is tragic 😅

Sun ShangXiang was tragic in that she's used by her brother in a political wedding that ended in tragedy and drowns herself in the end.

Why not included Liu Bei? Basicly he is making allies and getting betrayed. His sworn brother are killed, when he starting his revenge, he lost. And give so much cry for the person he left

IMO the Jiang Wei portrayal in later games is way better, because that's really what he was like in history. They could maybe try to make him appear more competent, but the constant resource draining campaigns were really his legacy in the end. To his credit, Jiang Wei died in the most badass way possible historically. He was extremely old, but he died fighting hand-to-hand. On the topic of Wei Yan, I think you give him too much of a pass. While he wasn't launching a coup to take power or something, his actions were clearly mutinous and insubordinate. The real backstory with Wei Yan is that while Zhuge Liang was alive Wei Yan was constantly bickering with Yang Yi, who was a very efficient logistics officer. Zhuge Liang tried to mediate between the two, but as soon as Zhuge Liang died all bets were off. Wei Yan burned some plank roads of Shu-Han, which was a destructive and rebellious act. Wei Yan and Yang Yi then both basically took a shot at power, each accusing the other of rebellion, and Wei Yan was killed in the power struggle. Ironically, Yang Yi lost in the power struggle anyways, because Zhuge Liang had appointed others to higher posts as part of his will. Yang Yi became indignant and was first demoted to commoner, and ultimately committed suicide. I do agree Wei Yan's death was tragic (and so was Yang Yi's) but Wei Yan's death is partly tragic because of Wei Yan's own irresponsible and self-aggrandizing actions, coming from a man who was one of Shu-Han's best generals. If he had kept his ego in check and been able to set aside his differences with Yang Yi, he wouldn't have had to die. The real tragedy imo is the flaw in his character (and the terrible Dynasty Warriors portrayal of him lol). I really like the rest of your list. I'm glad they added Yu Jin to the series. And yeah they did Yuan Shao dirty.

I feel like members of shu have been robbed of their achievements in game vs actually hysterical marks. Mostly after guan yu’s death

How are Dian Wei and Sun Ce not on this list??

How is Wang Yi or Yuan Shu not on the list or even honourable mentions? Wang Yi’s family getting killed by a guy who talks about justice, and Yuan Shu’s ending with him on his death bed and eating an orange while crying.

man you need to watch the 2010 three kingdoms tv series it will make you see these characters in a new light also if your interested I made the english audiobook of the rotk if you want to listion to the direct source material

I never got the hate that liu shan got. he was put in a really bad place he didn't ask to be put in. his ending was definitely heart breaking. xiahou ba is another one considering how young he was. really enjoyed the video!

i would have kept on fighting for SHU n Zhao Yun n Jiang Wei would have been my best friend lol idk about Cao Wenji but Zhenji is tragic too she commited a suicide

...Shu's a tragic group.

Brother what about Zhao Yun and Ma Chao

Nah Guan Yu and Zhang Fei dying was actually justified

I can’t wait for dynasty warrior 10. Supposedly it will be released in September 2nd 2024

7 caught me off gurard I laughed, unfitting for this video xD

Pang Tong 🥲 rip

Dw9 was just so bad gameplay wise I just couldn't get into it, dw8 xl ce is just a much better game

Liu Shan is useless I didn’t like this character at all. The later dynasty warrior games made it seem like he was thinking for his people and stuff but everyone I meet seems to hate him. Even the ones who have read the books says he is a kitten born from a tiger.

I'm always happy whenever I see the death of any Shu generals (except Pang Tong, Zhuge Liang, Yue Ying, and Fa Zheng). Zhang Fei and Ma Chao will always be my least favorite Shu general although I'm not keen on any Shu general 😅😅

Should Dynasty Warriors 10 ever come into existence, Koei should definitely do the same thing Square Enix did with Final Fantasy 16 & make the game rated M. It just look so strange seeing characters getting sliced or stabbed, without any blood.