E-bike Motor spinning - wheel not turning

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rlachermeier

rlachermeier

5 жыл бұрын

After replacing a faulty controller it turned out I could hear the motoring spinning inside the hub but the wheel would not move. So I went online to look for a solution. I couldn't find anything on YT that addressed my specific problem so I searched forums. I was able to find one with the perfect solution.
Note: My math is a little rusty. There's actually 9 combinations of wire connections.
www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/thre...

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@robschannel1156
@robschannel1156 8 күн бұрын
Math certainly isn’t your strong suit lol, but this was indeed the problem and I thank you for saving me a bunch of time.
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 8 күн бұрын
@@robschannel1156 you are correct 😂 and your welcome
@0utcastAussie
@0utcastAussie 2 жыл бұрын
Saved my bacon in 2022. I'm quite a seasoned ebiker (built my own battery etc) but my mate asked me to to fix his battery and update his controller. Job sorted but none of the wires were plug and play. Anyway.. It all worked fine and dandy but couldn't get the lights / horn working. So instead of "bodge twisting" the wires together after I sussed part of the lights issue (got the rear & brake light working) I decided to take the controller off and solder it on my workbench. You know what's coming next don't you !! Yup, after connecting it all up it made a heck of a growl and then just span as per your description. The blue & green are pretty faded so I might have mixed them up and the controller lost memory. Watched you vid and tried it. It worked as single speed but noisy so I reconnected again the correct way and put it into learning mode. Success Was beginning to think I was going to have to buy him an new ebike !! (Trail - G) Anyway.. Thanks. Anyone got any tips on how to make the poxy horn & front light work ? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLKHgqZim7HOnY0.html
@sirgoatofcheese
@sirgoatofcheese 2 ай бұрын
Please post how you "built a battery"
@edwinkania5286
@edwinkania5286 Ай бұрын
I know this post is old but helped me figure out my issue. The color combination you have in this video helped me out. It was fine till I took my motor off to change the clutch and then , I hear it run but the wheel did not spin. So thanks I don't know if you will see but, I appreciate it. 😊
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier Ай бұрын
Glad it helped. Yeah I get emails every time someone comments. Glad people are still finding it useful.
@user-ly6gx5fp8l
@user-ly6gx5fp8l 10 ай бұрын
Thanks guy! I had the same problem and first thought it was something major. Found your video, then after some trial-and-error, I was able to connect the motor wires correctly to get the wheel turning. You likely saved me many hours and a lot of frustration. I owe you a beer!
@potat0441
@potat0441 10 ай бұрын
this was my exact issue! saved me from much headache and waiting. hooked it up like you and now it spins forward! thank you sir.
@terrysobkowich2084
@terrysobkowich2084 2 жыл бұрын
Well thx for the video it helped a lot after a full day of trying out all the other potential issues. You combination did not work for me , but another one did. My yellow,blue ,green was mirrored in the opposing direction, green blue yellow. The comment of the motor running but the wheel not turning had me perplexed. My issue was the wheel was not turning but was locked solid ,vibrating loudly and could not be turned by hand , the coils must have been triggered out of sequence and were fighting one another. I had something similar happen to a washing machine once when a positional sensor went bad. Its like it was having a seizure.
@agentwhitedog1
@agentwhitedog1 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks. This was indeed helpful, as I had exactly the same problem after buying a new controller. (In my case, yellow to yellow was correct, but the blue and green needed to be swapped over.) This tip certainly saved me a load of time, as I was just about to strip down the motor in search of some kind of centrifugal clutch! 😅
@lifeseasy3924
@lifeseasy3924 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explanation it helped a lot...but later I learned that if you connect those two white wires(short them), it will adjust the phase angle by itself, if possible make another video explaining the same.
@garylp3
@garylp3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I got the same problem and used your wire combination. Now throttle works.
@nicorom5338
@nicorom5338 4 ай бұрын
Today you save my life. jaja thank you from Argentina..
@pandarlosbox
@pandarlosbox 2 жыл бұрын
Fixed my similar problem. Was running backwards. Thank you.
@YkitzWorm
@YkitzWorm 5 ай бұрын
Thanks very much you sir are a genius 💯 I was losing my mind this my first ever e-bike and I wanted to do it all myself learning as I go next up BRAKES pray for me
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 5 ай бұрын
🙏
@nil997
@nil997 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! for the information, it was the first video I saw and the problem solved.. what a quick solution,
@chuckwn
@chuckwn 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly fixed the exact problem I was having. Thank you thank you thank you
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. It works for some but not everybody I guess. Glad it worked for you.
@mellamomariano2861
@mellamomariano2861 4 ай бұрын
Thanks you so much for this video!!
@Howtolaif
@Howtolaif 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx a lot! I did rewire before but i did it wrong and after your video its all perfect now!
@elimaki4833
@elimaki4833 3 жыл бұрын
Gives me something to try. Thanks for the suggestion. Great video
@jlo1343
@jlo1343 Жыл бұрын
Heaving Dane problem ..thank you much for taking time to make your helpful video it was very helpful I got my feature hey bike going again thanks to you
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier Жыл бұрын
Your welcome
@obadiahsmith2345
@obadiahsmith2345 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you . Just needed the different combination also
@user-ro2dl6ry5j
@user-ro2dl6ry5j 2 ай бұрын
I had the same problem thank you soo much
@steebbrell835
@steebbrell835 3 жыл бұрын
You sir are a legend 🤟🤟
@cDotScript
@cDotScript 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the quick and easy video it's what we all die for in the need of help.. can everyone give this guy a subscribe for the simplicity. Thank you
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words
@cDotScript
@cDotScript 6 ай бұрын
It's all good matey, I appreciate the simply videos from your self no over explanation just what we all need to hear.. Thank you hommie have a fanatic day and keep slaying
@stephenshillito6086
@stephenshillito6086 3 жыл бұрын
Defo a legend. Thank you so much!
@ronservin1399
@ronservin1399 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks it worked, keep up the good work.
@christianequihua8281
@christianequihua8281 10 ай бұрын
Life saver, had the exact same issue. Thanks
@ahsanmahmood3378
@ahsanmahmood3378 6 ай бұрын
Very helpful video. Thanks alot
@kefahfanni
@kefahfanni 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks it saved me alot of time and money
@george2352
@george2352 Жыл бұрын
Wow that was really HELPful!
@duncanhamishrobertson7899
@duncanhamishrobertson7899 5 ай бұрын
Bugger me it worked..thankyou soooooo much
@yossisaban
@yossisaban 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you the video very help me
@markvaldez9515
@markvaldez9515 2 жыл бұрын
U guys are too funny!!! Hey do you see those two green wires in the back their called smart identification wires their a key connection to helping your hallo sensors find the right phases to rotate the right direction. It just a process of connecting then un connecting... That's what's does green wires do.
@alexveldkamp273
@alexveldkamp273 4 жыл бұрын
same problem same fix thank for your video
@anthonys8174
@anthonys8174 2 жыл бұрын
You are a star thankyou I had to do the same . Cheers mate
@fotoboxBK
@fotoboxBK 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much you will help me a lot
@Roni_nil
@Roni_nil 3 жыл бұрын
It's worked for me thank you so much
@cankiller
@cankiller 2 жыл бұрын
It did work for me too, thanks
@HNDVehicules
@HNDVehicules 4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH
@abdouallahuniverse5689
@abdouallahuniverse5689 3 жыл бұрын
Some people got confused, this video is for installing new controller, if the phases wires doesent work properly (motor spining but the wheel not) when match the same colors, then swap them till you find the right combination, but if your bike just suddenly the wheel stop turning and the motor spining, then you meed new controller, or in my case new motor because the inside the motor got damaged when i drove the bike throught the curve and the rear wheel got slamed from the top of the curve to the botom, when i was riding it, i didnt know that cauld damage rhe motor assambly.
@TylerHainey
@TylerHainey 11 ай бұрын
You are the man thanks
@shaeeltariq2097
@shaeeltariq2097 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for video i have this problem
@paulstrollo3187
@paulstrollo3187 Жыл бұрын
same here now to figure out how to save P settings and they appear different ...ugh BUT Thyanks for this as it fixed my issue of wheel not turning. used same sequence as you show here was color for color match.
@paulstrollo3187
@paulstrollo3187 10 ай бұрын
UPDATE, if you open controller you will likely find wires are soldered in wrong location. Maybe color bling QA worker on the lose in china LOL
@spinnanz
@spinnanz 3 жыл бұрын
That controller has a "learn" wire (you can see it in the video). This can be used to choose wheel direction.
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
I did not know that.
@spinnanz
@spinnanz 3 жыл бұрын
@@rlachermeier it's the 2 single green wires each with a plug. To change direction, join them together and then power it up. Each time the unit up powered up with the wires connected it changes the motor direction. When the motor direction is correct, you disconnect them.
@patbutete1722
@patbutete1722 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Just momentarily connect the 2 wires and problem solved - no need to faff around swapping phase wires.
@DaProblematic21
@DaProblematic21 3 ай бұрын
Hi I have an onyx rcr QSmotor the wheel locked up and won’t spin after a hurricane water was above the wheel but it turns on and throttle shows voltage when turning but no movement .idk if the motor is bad or something else
@the_king_of_normies1501
@the_king_of_normies1501 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU, THANK YOU!!!
@veronlorrimer-vd2qq
@veronlorrimer-vd2qq 9 ай бұрын
Thanks bro ..I was having the same problem
@Lazlow007
@Lazlow007 Жыл бұрын
You are a life saver, man! My e-bike went backwards after the controller change. Changed everything to match the colors.... still backwards... Then did what you did and now it's good! HOWEVER it's much weaker than wen it went backwards. Any idea on that?
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier Жыл бұрын
Not sure about the strength. Not really an expert on these.
@yawenoocho1979
@yawenoocho1979 4 жыл бұрын
Mine Works perfect now !
@Agzmoses
@Agzmoses 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so so so much...i was pulling my hair...it has worked.
@ruileitao3975
@ruileitao3975 Жыл бұрын
You are a genious my friend
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier Жыл бұрын
I wish
@KingdomHearts0004
@KingdomHearts0004 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the connector grouped with the Blue, Yellow, and Green wires is? And why it has to be unplugged? On my controller when it’s plugged in the motor doesn’t spin.
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe mine are connected to anything
@KingdomHearts0004
@KingdomHearts0004 2 жыл бұрын
@@rlachermeier Yeah I looked it up and it’s related to pedal assist. I don’t have it on my bike, so I don’t need it plugged in.
@TheAviation101
@TheAviation101 3 жыл бұрын
Your mistake is assuming the motor was actually spinning. It's not spinning lol, just making the noise caused by PWM Another issue you can get by hooking up the phase wires the wrong way is the motor spinning backwards.
@lucassiegfried1287
@lucassiegfried1287 Жыл бұрын
It was spinning. A geared hub motor has freewheeling for when bike coasts.
@williamb3034
@williamb3034 2 жыл бұрын
Same problem Same solutions Thank u
@yawenoocho1979
@yawenoocho1979 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@lele_c
@lele_c 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, i have the same problem and i have inverted the wire as your indication but not solved. Do you have inverted also the wires of hall sensor?
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't. If you're still having problems you might want to try what "spinnanz" suggests below. It's something I wasn't aware of.
@lele_c
@lele_c 3 жыл бұрын
@@rlachermeier thanks a lot :)
@evva1974
@evva1974 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a million.
@Shagwag_adventures
@Shagwag_adventures Жыл бұрын
I love you!!!
@ziadfawzi
@ziadfawzi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome
@nottinghamforest2980
@nottinghamforest2980 Жыл бұрын
please which cable wires for display and which display i can use here , thank you
@samsonfpv8902
@samsonfpv8902 2 жыл бұрын
That was it. Thank you
@THEPAINOFITALL
@THEPAINOFITALL 9 ай бұрын
Did you also change hall wires?
@WallyOtt
@WallyOtt 3 жыл бұрын
It must be my English but how can the motor be SPINNING and the wheel no TURNING? This is a hub motor inside the wheel so either both are turning (spinning?) or both not.
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I would have thought? But if you don't have the wires hooked up correctly the motor makes a spinning sound without the wheel moving. I wish I would have recorded it before I fixed the problem.
@vanceman99
@vanceman99 3 жыл бұрын
It is likely because it is a geared motor and is prevented from turning the bike wheel in reverse while running. Watch this guy's very detailed video on bike controller installation: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htunoal-ra7YkXk.html
@user-fd7ti8hj4s
@user-fd7ti8hj4s 3 жыл бұрын
grace a toi jai pu reparer mon velo le meme soucis merci bcp :)
@gtjust8188
@gtjust8188 3 жыл бұрын
Having the same problem. Planetary gears were stripped in motor, replaced for new thought that would fix it but now the horrible crunchy noise is replaced with the whirring of the motor and no wheel movement. Going to have a go at this fix 🤞
@EQINOX187
@EQINOX187 3 жыл бұрын
Changing the phase wires works i guess but it is the incorrect solution to the problem, those brain power controllers need to be trained to work correctly and to do that you connect that single green wire together and then power up the bike this will make the controller enter training mode where it attempts to spin the motor in so doing learn the motor so that it runs optimally, sometimes however they come set for direct drive hubs which spin the oposit way to the motor in a geared hub and so the motor spins the wrong way and does not spin the wheel, the correct way to fix this is to pull the throttle during the training phase and this tells the controller to switch the direction
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to try this when I pull it out of storage this spring. Thanks!
@VivekKumar-ii7sf
@VivekKumar-ii7sf 3 жыл бұрын
When getting motor problem in Controller like 3 motor wire so what should we do?
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
Have you used a tester like shown in the beginning part of the video?
@GreensandBlooms
@GreensandBlooms 4 ай бұрын
TY BOSS NAG WORK HEHE
@Roni_nil
@Roni_nil 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Roni_nil
@Roni_nil 3 жыл бұрын
@@rlachermeier i purchased a new hub motor affter making all connections motor spinning but weel not Then i thought motor is defective 😂😂 After watching your video it's worked perfectly 😀👍 Thank you agin
@akshaya1069
@akshaya1069 2 жыл бұрын
That was that problem that i had.. thank dude . Appreciate it
@sergiusergiu9436
@sergiusergiu9436 4 жыл бұрын
It’ working after a few combinations It’s looks like different companies have different combinations
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I've heard from several people
@robertmotion
@robertmotion 3 жыл бұрын
I check out the link you had to look at the combinations. Where are they located? I don’t see anything in the thread you link? Can you list the combinations please. I’m sure it would help more than me. Don’t see anything. /Bklyn👑
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
B b G g Y y B b Y g G y G b B g Y y G b Y g B y Y b B g G y Y b G g B y
@BramWalraet
@BramWalraet 2 жыл бұрын
You're on the Ron Swanson piramid. Please and Thank you 😃
@anio6865
@anio6865 2 жыл бұрын
On that new controller? What is the name of those connectors and maybe please do you have a link to share where I can get them ? I cannot find them ? Please I need then to connect mine ?
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 2 жыл бұрын
The battery connector is a "Dean's" I'm not sure about the others. The battery connector you can get at a hobby store. Not sure about the rest.
@anio6865
@anio6865 2 жыл бұрын
@@rlachermeier you dont know what the connectors on the A. B. C. wires are ?
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 2 жыл бұрын
@@anio6865 I believe those are called "bullet" connectors
@waelhamza350
@waelhamza350 7 ай бұрын
It worked for me when I tried swapping wires they worked with multiple combination, but I am having new problem now, the bike doesn't accelerate as it was, when I ride it and accelerate it will stall couple of times before moving off, any help ?
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 7 ай бұрын
Sorry never experienced that issue. Don't really know to trouble shoot that one. Sorry
@blackbway
@blackbway 3 жыл бұрын
My scooter came with the blue and the green wires swapped.i intended to open the controller and rearrange the wires when I got time to do so.
@M0N0T0N0US
@M0N0T0N0US Жыл бұрын
Hahaha crapola that was my problem now too same wire combo..
@JimWilson619
@JimWilson619 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!!!!!!
@ownjam
@ownjam Жыл бұрын
I never mess with my Connection It started grinding a little bit every once in a while Then it all out, quit, grabbing. The motor still spins inside, but That's about it
@mikemiller9119
@mikemiller9119 Жыл бұрын
They say there’s 6 different combinations, but don’t tell you the other combinations.
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier Жыл бұрын
BLUE BLUE BLUE YELLOW BLUE GREEN YELLOW BLUE YELLOW YELLOW YELLOW GREEN GREEN BLUE GREEN YELLOW GREEN GREEN
@smokefentanyl
@smokefentanyl 2 ай бұрын
@@rlachermeierthanks will try tomorrow
@timm6112
@timm6112 2 жыл бұрын
it wasnt phase it was your learning wires
@danielgaming_yt478
@danielgaming_yt478 Ай бұрын
My e bike has this same problem I have a super 73 and the front tire just doesn’t turn
@sivodesilva9866
@sivodesilva9866 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much...
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 3 жыл бұрын
36K miles on my ebike now with only one issue... a faulty controller. It took about 30 mins. to swap it out and I have never had another issue. When I started my build I wanted the best all-around ebike possible with the focus on maximum range and the ability to carry/pull hundreds of pounds of gear. So far I haven't seen anything that comes close. Stay safe. If you want to see the bike and the process of building it leave a note on one of my videos since this "channel" doesn't allow links.
@KraszkoAlmos27
@KraszkoAlmos27 2 жыл бұрын
hello there, what's your kit/brand u used? where did u get it from? link would be great. thanks
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 2 жыл бұрын
@@KraszkoAlmos27 Hey Álmos, I tried to leave links but a lot of YT channels won't allow the use of them. I'm sure it's hard to have people showing a better way to do something on your own video. I haven't seen a production ebike I would buy yet. My bike frame is a Tout Terrain Panamericana with a BaFang BBSHD connected to a Roloff Speedhub. If you contact me on one of my videos I can give you some links and pictures of the whole process. It's surprisingly easy to have a great ebike.... nothing at all like you see in this video. Stay Safe.
@goodmorningtraders7815
@goodmorningtraders7815 3 жыл бұрын
WOW⚡⚡⚡⚡👌👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏⭐⭐⭐⭐
@gerardjachymiak5822
@gerardjachymiak5822 3 жыл бұрын
No hate but THATS WHAT THE "SELF LEARNING WIRE" IS FOR!
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of "self learning wire"
@gerardjachymiak5822
@gerardjachymiak5822 3 жыл бұрын
@@rlachermeier two thin wires usually white when you clip them together the motor spins in the direction you want
@MilanGilgames
@MilanGilgames 3 жыл бұрын
@@gerardjachymiak5822 some motors don't have it or have it but not working properly. I do have the self l wire but only coming out from the controller and my motor does not have it.
@trishadeeksha8251
@trishadeeksha8251 3 жыл бұрын
Supara sir
@BiagioBellomo
@BiagioBellomo 2 ай бұрын
ti do 2 birre
@zeshieu3251
@zeshieu3251 2 жыл бұрын
ruined my battery
@rlachermeier
@rlachermeier 2 жыл бұрын
😮 first time I've heard that
@scottrocks1993
@scottrocks1993 2 жыл бұрын
You do know there is 36 combination You have only found one combination what is wrong. You can't just change the phase wires you need to change the Hall sensor wires aswell. You need to find the correct combination or it won't run properly. Not only that it can cause damage & lose speed. I can 100% guaranteed you have Wired that controller wrong. Just because the wheel is turning the right way. It doesn't mean it's the correct combination. The timing will be off
@user-gz6xx7ir1s
@user-gz6xx7ir1s 2 ай бұрын
Реально работает Красава я бы не подумал
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