Darryl welcome back! Thanks for the kind words. The Eratix is perfect for your mission! You'll have a blast with it.

I still fly both, they are all good including the Eratix, especially if you don't want to build, but the lighter ones do fly best for 3D...just stay away from the Radiolink A560 if you're serious about learning 3D. They meant well but missed the mark.

​@@ModelAV8RChannelwhat about JTA innovations have you tried them?

Thanks very much for the kind words Pete. The Eratix is perfect for that purpose and you'll be ready to fly it in minutes. Solid plane. I actually got one for myself and gave the Gamebird to a buddy.

Congrats! They are, and so easy to get going!

You'll have a blast with it! Enjoy it man, it will make you a better pilot...great learning tools.

Thanks very much for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it. Fun planes to fly for sure!

Yep, got one for myself and those 850's are what I run.

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks very much!

Wow Will, thank you man. That means a lot I appreciate the kind words.

Awesome.

Lol! Thanks brother John! I'm starting to get my 3D chops back a little, but still a ways to go to get back where I was when I did it all the time. I may never have enough time to get it there again, but its fun to try! Yes sir...a short or two may happen! LOL!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours bro!!

Thank you brother...stay warm! Holy crap 8 degrees!!

@@ModelAV8RChannel Stays cold out like this hopefully everything will freeze up so i can get out on the lake and do some ice fishing! I wish a company would make a nice hobby grade RC snowmobile, bet you they would sell like hotcakes at a country fair! LOL

@@old-rcplane-phart No schools near here that allow that, it's all good, ice fishing is coming up with this cold weather! Can't wait to get out on the ice!

It's a great plane. Great first profile foamy. It will teach you a lot! Enjoy!

Thanks! Great airplane!

Man it will teach you a ton. Great airplanes.

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

Thanks very much! So, the planes on their website that have a symmetrical airfoil are bigger, heavier planes. They fly very well but somewhat different than the flat 3D foamies. Kind of in between a flat foamie and a regular full bodied 3D plane. The bigger ones are better at the precision stuff as they can fly perfectly straight and the trim doesn't change from slow to fast. With a flat 3D profile plane the wing makes lift with angle of attack. So, when you're going "straight" you're doing it at a slight angle of attack. When you speed up...it makes more lift, and the trim changes. Its easy to compensate for, and you rarely go fast with a flat foamie anyway. The smaller 32 to 34" flat foamies are the easiest to fly actually. They have the lightest wing loading.

@@ModelAV8RChannel Great information. Thanks so much. All the best Adam.

Anytime man. Thanks so much for watching!

You'll enjoy it Dan, and it will make you a better pilot! Glad you got one!

You need one...lol!

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@@trevorfurlotte lol

Thanks Steven!

Hey Dom thanks very much man! I had a few of the old micro 3D's myself, I think I'd have liked them more if I had an indoor venue to fly them at. Outside in wind the AS3X was always making funky corrections...lol.

Thanks Gina! I dunno, I think you could fly one.

@@ModelAV8RChannel 😂😂😂

@@purcellrcaviationchannel You could, just dial the throws down to reasonable instead of where I have them...redneck mode! LOL!!

@@ModelAV8RChannel If ever there was a model designed for Bubba, I think this could be it 😆

Awesome man thanks for the kind words, and glad our content helps! All in all I think you have the best option for what you're doing. That said the Eratix is a fun plane to have and fly!

Thanks very much Ryan. I hope our other reviews are as good too!

Thanks man!

Thanks brother! I appreciate the kind words man. Fun plane, easy to get going. Looks great too. Enjoy it!

Yep, it does the name justice. A bit heavy, but still a very good 3D foamy!

Thank YOU!

Thanks brother Scott, and thanks for ALL you do for our channel!

Thanks so much for the kind words my friend. Glad you like the Eratix...it will teach you a lot. Fun plane!

Thanks Brad. Really glad you enjoy our channel buddy. See Jase Dussia, that is a master! Lol

@@ModelAV8RChannel Yes. He is one too! 😊

Thanks very much. I get it man, me too. The Eratix is a nice concept and a good flyer, but the lighter planes do fly better. Plus building is a good skill to develop.

Thank you Michel, and thanks for watching!

Thanks Randy!

Thank you Dave! I like a full bodied trainer to get students more accustomed to the mass of a normal plane and move into takeoffs and landings with the plane they started with. That said there is more than one way to teach...

Thank you Chris!

Those are out there.

@@ModelAV8RChannel Yeah. I’m eyeballing Twisted Hobby’s 39” Extra 260L, or for about 1/2 the all-up price Dancing Wing’s Shining.

@@JeffinTDYep, half the price, and will fly twice as good.

@@ModelAV8RChannel So you’d recommend the Shining then? A buddy has one and it seems to fly well. I’ve had one of the smaller Twisted Hobbies planes and it flew excellent- but the area I live in isn’t known for windsurfing just for the river… I’d for sure choose to have one great flying model over two not so great flyers, but otoh spending close to swap meet smaller gas 3D plane money on a foamy kinda defeats the purpose.

Oh no, sorry I mis-read your reply. The Twisted Hobby's stuff is far superior when compared to most foam 3D profile planes. Worth the extra money in my opinion.

Hmm. I disagree Cliff. You could fly anything you set your mind to.

Yeah Mike that is the Eratix strong suit...ready to go in minutes!

Thanks Adam! It is a good flyer, easy assembly for sure!

@@ModelAV8RChannel Cool, stoked on the ease of assembly with is one 🤙🏼

You'll enjoy it!

I saw that, although the more complete options only apply to local pick up.

Thanks for watching! Nothing like reusing some electronics. You'll love the Gamebird.

Yeah I’m loving the gamebird it’s a hoot 🦉

Thank you brother Jude!

So first off, no BS...the lighter plane will fly better. That said, how much better is the question, and is that worth the time it takes to build it? You'll get different answers depending on who you ask. I've flown them all, and right now my go to is my Eratix. I gave my JTA Gamebird to a young fella at our field. Does the Eratix fly as good as the lighter ones I've owned? Honestly...no, but it is very close...close enough that I don't care about the difference. I was in the air in 15 minutes, and with my schedule now it is hard for me to devote a day or two to a build. That is the advantage of the Eratix...and it is significant in my opinion. Pretty amazing it flies 90% as good for 5% of the effort.

@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks for such a comprehensive response! Cheers

True, very true. I couldn't agree more. BTW...flew that Decathlon. Takes some setting up, but once dialed in...awesome! Episode soon...

@@ModelAV8RChannel you remembered! I actually bought one last month as stock was running out in the UK. I still have to finish another project soon so will be enjoying your content and screenshotting your setup page before assembly commences!

Awesome, glad you got one!

Fun plane!

Thank you Tony!

Hey thanks very much. So the JTA in JTA Innovations stands for "Jase the Ace". The best 3D pilot on the planet is Jase Dussia, and that is his company. Like Twisted Hobby's, all his stuff flies great.

@@ModelAV8RChannel I think everybody in RC knows of Jase Dussia, he is one amazing pilot but had no idea he had his own business going. Thanks

Thanks man! It's a good plane that has it advantages. It can do anything the others can do, but the lighter planes have an edge.

Thank you! You'll enjoy it, definitely has its advantages.

Interesting. Doesn't make sense it would be climbing towards the gear inverted and flying perfectly level right side up, and that be attributed to trim. These planes have no airfoil and use angle of attack to make lift and fly, so basically it should do the same thing right side up and inverted if its a trim issue. It would climb inverted, and dive right side up. If you can trim it one way, and its not neutral and flying straight the other...its a balance issue usually. We made sure our surfaces were centered before we ever flew it, and for us it was clearly a balance issue. All that said...if yours is flying the way you like that is all that matters.

@Model AV8R it was just about perfect CG flew almost perfect right side up hands off, flipped inverted wanted to pitch towards the gear inverted, when I landed I noticed my elevator was as I said a little down like 2 click enough to cause it to pitch in verted, if you watch my video no other bad tendencies, oh and your video about EPP lighter planes is spot on, they float this one you have to fly.

@Model AV8R I think what it is I like a tad tail heavy just my preference, i put it on my balancer and that what is showed, never the less amazing plane

This will be a wordy response, but I promise I'm just trying to help, so I'll explain what is confusing to me, and how I balance one of these. Might help, might not, but here it is in case it does. So just so we're on the same page "neutral" is the balance I'm looking for. That means if its hands off right side up, when we roll inverted it still is, just keeps tracking straight hands off. Just because a plane flies straight right side up doesn't mean its balanced, and the tendency to tuck towards the gear when you roll inverted is the clue its tail heavy. Think of it this way...we both know trim affects the plane regardless of weather its right side up or inverted right? So if its tracking straight right side up, but climbs inverted, and you adjust the trim to fix the issue inverted...how does that not adversely affect it right side up now? I mean the down elevator you took out was in there when it tracked straight right side up right? So if you take that out how is it not climbing right side up now? That's the confusing part...that isn't possible. You can't fix a pitch issue inverted with trim and it not also change what the plane is doing right side up. The way I get a 3D profile in balance and trim is this...and what the balancer on the bench says is irrelevant...that only tells you if its where the manual says it should be, not how it flies. I fly it, trim it to be hands off right side up at a lower throttle setting with a light profile foamy - maybe 35% to 50% throttle...enough to maintain flight, but not too fast. (you use more throttle with a heavier full bodied 3D plane)Then I roll inverted and see what it does. If it goes towards the gear...tail heavy, if it goes towards the canopy...nose heavy. I land, adjust the battery if I can but essentially I adjust the balance. Now I re-center the elevator trim and start over. I fly it, trim it to be hands off right side up, roll inverted, and see what it does now. I keep repeating this process until the balance is such that I get it trimmed hands off right side up, roll inverted, and it still tracks straight. When that happens...I'm there. Basically, with this type of airplane...if its doing something different inverted than its doing right side up at lower throttle settings, its not balanced neutral. All that said...balance is a personal preference. I prefer a plane more neutral based on what I like to do with them. Some folks prefer them a bit tail heavy or nose heavy based on what they like.

@@ModelAV8RChannel 100% correct

Thanks for watching Brian!

You can Mark, but its hard on the rudder servo.

Thank you!

Thanks Chris. It is fun for sure.

Thanks bro! Yeah man the Twisted Beaver is a fun plane. Got a buddy that has one and we have a blast with it! I want the Fokker and Gee Bee!!

E300D is a full bodied airplane. Nothing like a profile foamy. Watch the flying and you'll see the difference. Everything else you asked in is the episode...

I do if it is necessary. My goal is to get the power to come in as close to the same way as possible on all my 3D planes so that my gimbal position is in the same place power wise during key 3D positions like harrier.

Thank you Joel! You and yours as well my friend!

Thanks Ian!

Thank you Jeff! I agree...

Been on the road traveling and bought one. I've owned several twisted planes and they are so much better. If they could cut 100 or 150 grams it would be ok.

Thanks Roy! I prefer the lighter foamys as well.

Thanks very much! I'm glad you're enjoying the FF's, they will absolutely make you a better pilot.

Yes sir I thought that was a weird way to do it, so we measured from the actual wing root close to the fuse to make it easier. Basically, If you're using the 800mah packs, put them forward in the strap and she should be fine. Remember proper CG is more about what it does in the air than a number. It's also good to understand that since these profile foamys have no airfoil, they rely on angle of attack to make lift, so even when the plane is going through the air "straight", it actually has a couple of degrees of AoA. We usually trim them at about 40% to 60% throttle. Because of the nature of how they make lift, when we go to full throttle they can climb or dive a bit depending on the plane and CG. We just learn to compensate for that as most of the time given what we do with them (mostly high alpha stuff) that really is rarely a factor. Hope this helps! Have fun with it!

Thanks - that’s helpful. I’m flying the 850 pack and had to move it nearly as far back as possible to balance it out at 86mm. We’ll see how that works later today.

Thanks for watching! Those are Extreme Flight Stick planes, and they are out...but Supa Tim at Northwest RC has some in stock.

Thank you man! Appreciate that. Yes that is 100% rate and servo travel. No adjustments made there. The throttle curve is a personal preference thing. I have a lot of 3D planes and when you get to a certain level you'll have a range where your throttle gimbal lives in harrier and hover. For most people its between 40% and 60% throttle. For me I'm making tiny throttle corrections around 40 to 45% throttle when I'm in a harrier or hover. I adjust the throttle curve on all my 3D planes slightly so the power comes in soon enough to put me in the range I want to be in for those corrections.

Thank you Terry! I think they are sold at Flex now. I actually gave my Gamebird away, and got an Eratix! Lol. It isn't as light for sure, but it does everything I want it to do, I'm past the point of crashing them much, and it's better looking.

Any of the monoplane standard 32" series.

They are Hitec 5070MH's. Way overkill for it, but I like overkill...Lol.

@@ModelAV8RChannel damn I was trying to copy yours and bought the JR's 😂

Lol...well it will be fine with those.

Hmm, haven't had a failure on a servo with the Eratix yet. I've used Hitec HS5065's before a good bit. High torque, metal gear, and digital.

@@ModelAV8RChannel awesome thank you!!!

Thank you!

Thanks Rex!

Flex Innovations

Lol! Man I'd have liked to see those, SR-71 and Bell X-1...awesome! We are good buddy hope all is well with you and yours. It is true...a gun safe will fly with enough HP!!

Hey thanks man. Oh yeah...Bubba likes it! Lol.

Yep. Plug a battery in (prop off of course) and push the button on top of the RX. You will have to hold it in for a sec or two...then it will go into bind mode and you'll see the flashing orange light. Let the button go, and bind er up!

Well Dang! Lol.

Sure William - THR Curve 1. 0 0 2. 18 24 3. 34 41 4. 50 58 5. 70 75 6. 84 88 7. 100 100

Yeah there's a trick to building them straight, and they have to be straight or they fly weird. Twisted hobby's has some good build videos that will help a lot.

Full set-up is at 28:25.

There is a link in the description.

Compare to the competition. Right in line with what you'd pay for a 3D foamy, electronics, and RX from Twisted hobbies.

Yep. I think that's what mainly sells it. Horizon is really doing everything they can to make things as easy as possible. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. I kinda like to build.

@@ModelAV8RChannel I think if you fly a model like this, and you haven't before, you're likely going to have to repair it anyway. So I guess many will get to do some building after all!

@@big-smoke-rc True, that is likely...