I’m beginning to steal E models from SCA

Yep, if you look at the information tab of the ship there's a "burst weapon output" section showing the damage output fore, aft, port, starboard, aloft, and below. I don't think you can access that level of detail in the loadout screen, you need to actually have the completed ship, but usually you can guess based on the turret layout and then confirm with the info tab later.

VRO sucks, makes the player experience in flying ships much worse. and ruins balance. Hard pass.

@@Xeoah that’s like, your opinion man.

@@TroaBarton That's what the creators of VRO state on there page make the combat more RTS/fleet focus and less Arcadey so player piloting a ship is way off and worst. The only ships a player can fly reliably in VRO is the battleships.

They are extremely powerful! Pretty much any destroyer can solo a K if it's completely packed with dumbfires. But because of the way ammo capacity works, the more turrets you have, the fewer salvos you can fire before needing to rearm. So I like to just equip a couple.

proud to be no 607 hehe...and yea man i agree with you

Not yet. I actually only played Timelines for the lore and haven't even bothered to pick up any of the ships yet. But the missile batteries sound extremely cool, so I'll probably go find mine soon.

It's on my short list!

It varies by ship. Always either Attack or Defend. Details are at the start of each destroyer's section.

It's so funny how different the game is for different people. Some folks post about how they never use S/M ships, others post about how they only use S/M ships. And in my game, the final crisis wave actually completely wiped out VIG. Their fighters got absolutely demolished by the constant Ravager spawns. Not a single combat ship left in any of their systems afterwards.

@@CptSnuggles07 Hahaha really? I guess that's what makes the game replayable - every new game can be quite different. The VIG in mine are absolute beasts! I thought the Ravagers would decimate their swarms but VIG bombed the crap out of both of them and the 4 Xenon capitals... I would love it if VIG would engage outside of their mini cluster... Back to fighters vs capital ships... Usually, one well-equipped destroyer costs around 20 million, and a good fighter like the Shih with 10 torps costs around 1.6 million. So for every destroyer, you can get around 12 fighters. Before, I was mainly using capital ships because I could easily capture them and field them without the need to replace them. Easy to manage. Because yes, fighters will die and need replacing more often. But when money is of no concern anymore, you have your shipyards etc... Nothing beats the firepower, deployment speed and versatility of fighters in my opinion. You also get to train lots of captains at once and rescue them if they die :D! On destroyers, crew usually die when the ship subsequently blows up... I just got fed up having to wait forever for my destroyers to get from one place to another... Now, those fast response fleets are actually fast AF :D

I'm not even sure I fully understand Boron fleet tactics per se. I love including Boron ships in my mixed fleet compositions, but I've never tried to assemble a full functional fleet using only Boron tech.

@@CptSnuggles07 I’m trying to do that as my first proper play through while I’m learning the game, it’s quite fun

@@CptSnuggles07 1 Shark + 40 Mako on intercept + 40 torpedo Irukandji on bombard = Boron fleet tactics for anything outside station demolition. 😉 And I should add Kha'ak Ravagers (for those that did not opt out of Crisis) as a no go for that fleet composition , as those would require destroyers. But, for anything else, you would be covered.

is it with other fighters possible as well?

The first three clips are all Coordinated Attacks. You can use them with any fleet composition by selecting the fleet commander and right-clicking the target. There are a few settings you can adjust in the fleet commander's Behavior tab. Coordinated Attacks allow the fleet commander to use their "judgement" to assign tasks to ships, which can make different attacks look very different from one another.

Nope, it's just Zyarth's Dominion that was renamed after a series of decisions in one of the Split plots.

They are very strong. Best defense in the game, and good utility effects on their weapons. Their anti-capital damage tends to be a little low, but you can fix that with missiles.

ARG tech is the easiest to mass-produce because it can be made with Closed Loop, and it's generally pretty decent, so I put it in all "non-essential" slots. As for the main shields, although the low recharge causes problems in longer fights, TEL outperforms the other Commonwealth shields in short-to-average engagements. Obviously TER mk3 is better, but it's very expensive, and for this test I wanted to field ships that were reasonably priced and reasonably powerful without being completely min-maxed.

They used to be a serious threat when L ship AI was way worse. But now...yeah. Their AI is dramatically inferior to destroyers', and there's been some power creep with the introduction of the E model destroyers. The Xenon are definitely getting weaker and weaker, relatively speaking.

@@CptSnuggles07 Yea i really think the xenon need some buffs, or maybe im just use to K's and I's from my modded X3 play throughs rampaging through multiple sectors..

I explain in the ship loadout section. tl;dw: because we already know that works, so I wanted to test the performance of "normal" patrol groups, which have historically suffered against K's.

You're not using plasma as intended then... If they were like the gravitons, they would be way too OP. As it stands, I think it's one of the better-balanced weapons out there 😊. I just wish turret tracking was better, but that goes for all turrets.

@@mattronin2647 I mean, i dislike Plasma L turrets because of the feeling it offers. I would rather have less shooting rate but faster and heavely bullets. When there is a lot of thoses turrets shooting, it cost a lot of DPS and i understand nothing in the battle. This is one of the reason i use VRO mod btw

@@Miithrandir ah yeah I get you, it does end up looking very messy and can lead to some pretty nasty friendly fire too...

@@mattronin2647 exactly!