Thanks for playing this music and avoiding the usual audiophile stuff! Keep Swinging!!!! I’ve avoided streaming but my friend Mr Ed just got the pro plus and because of your review , I think I’m in!
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for tuning in - and for writing!
@danmarjenka63618 ай бұрын
Since I started streaming, it's no longer about the gear and equipment. It's about enjoying music.
@quazar9128 ай бұрын
and don`t forger how much time you have for listening instead of looking for vinyl, take it out of the sleeve, aiming it on the turntable ot opening CD box and carefully put CD onto the tray...🤣
@michaelwright16029 ай бұрын
Great video sir! Just found you too... Many laugh at me for owning two WiiM streamers, the Mini and the Pro. I think they sound fantastic, and I have had more expensive streamers through here. Using the mini with a Sansui 2000 and the Pro with the Sansui 4000, running through a PS Audio DAC/Pre, and it sounds FANTASTIC! Just as good, if not better than the more expensive streamers I have had through here. Both systems are running with Zu Audio speakers, their original Omen Dirty Weekends, and their new DW6 Supremes. The WiiM EQ and PEQ take the WiiM products to a level more expensive streamers cannot touch. Diminishing returns... The WiiM's are staying. Love the app.
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
Michael, first, welcome to the channel. I'm so happy your found it! Second, you, my good man, are preaching to the choir. My reference streamer is the simply superb $20,000 Ideon Absolute (E126: Ideon's Absolute Stream - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNWFZst_ssu5lac.htmlsi=RWLyCImjLpnfsm1F), and these little guys, ESPECAILLY the WiiM Pro PLus, have no business being this exceptional for their asking price... 😏 Thank you for watching, and for taking the time to write.
@Mrsteve47619 ай бұрын
I recently bought the WiiM mini to enjoy music on my home system with my two boys who subscribe to Spotify. We've always shared music together over the years on my system (in what we call a "listening session") though the boys have transitioned from CDs to the use of their phones for audio playback. For them, hence, I bought the WiiM, and let me tell you I'm equally amazed as are you. The sound from that little "puck" was remarkable over my big system simply using the analog outputs. I later added an affordable external DAC, in the SMSL SU-1, and was even further surprised at what I was hearing. As you mentioned, the price point of these offerings is simply hard to beat.
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for taking the time to share your equally remarkable experiences with the WiiM "Hockey Puck." And as remarkable as it is, you just wouldn't BELIEVE the performance of the Pro Plus... Stoopid great products at very fair prices...
@richardkieran68738 ай бұрын
I recently bought a Pro Plus and I'm mostly satisfied with it. There is an issue, though, that reviewers don't mention. I use Qobuz for HD streaming. The WiiM does not, unless I'm mistaken, connect "natively" to Qobuz. It uses ChromeCast. This presents a couple of problems. One is that it cannot do gapless playback. That can be annoying on albums that run tracks together for artistic effect. Like parts of Abbey Road and The Wall, for instance. ChromeCast also limits resolution to 24bit, 96KHz. That's a 50% reduction in sampling frequency, at least. Please tell me I'm doing something wrong, and how to correct it. Rumor has it that WiiM and Qobuz are working on a "connect", like Spotify and others use. I have no Idea when this will become available, if ever. Do you have any info on this?
@adsph9 ай бұрын
Very refreshing to hear you speak so highly of the Wiim devices. I have a pro on my second system. It’s wonderful. What a great take on these products. All the best.
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
Thank you, but as you are aware, the bloody thing is a freakin' superstar at its price point...
@adsph9 ай бұрын
@@theaudioanalyst you are spot on.
@pnichols65009 ай бұрын
I added a mini to my 2nd system (wife's system) that apms running two sets of speakers - inside and outside. With my system with the Pro, I can stream mine, hers and the outside speakers all at one if I want to. Or play either system through the outside speakers etc. Amazingly simple to set up.
@tomhill40034 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vote of confidence on the Wiim Pro Plus. I want to get a streaming DAC for my vintage set-up, and didn't know where to begin. I have read and watched many reviews for this unit, and I am sold! Can't wait to get it plugged in and playing!
@theaudioanalyst4 ай бұрын
What it offers - for its price - makes it an absolute no-brainer... I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine!
@marcus19709 ай бұрын
I feel like streaming can be remarkably satisfying.. However... Like everything... There are levels, of performance and of cost... But once in a while something special hits performance capability that can also scale up in pretty expensive overall systems and yet doesn't cost a bomb... I think you've hit on such products with these. Thanks for another great second space video Greg. 👍🏻
@DaleJohnsonOD6 ай бұрын
First time seeing your channel! I just bought the WiiM Amp to play with and power some older speakers I have. The price and some good reviews on the interface helped me to just do it! Your review is encouraging for sure. I will have to see what hardware and capability the amp comes with as compared the pieces you reviewed! Thank you for your efforts!
@OscarSanchez-tk3hx2 ай бұрын
My Pro plus arrived yesterday and is connected to the 2nd system thanks for sharing this video
@theaudioanalyst2 ай бұрын
All I can say is - enjoy! 😄
@RAMIRO61FERNANDES9 ай бұрын
Great video, excelent level of information and the final high level music tracks. The best.💯👌👍🎯
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
Many thanks for tuning in and for writing!
@russellbrikowski61399 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the presentation .
@bankruptfilly9 ай бұрын
Glad I watched this at 1.5x speed
@stevenburdick4249 ай бұрын
Really good show.
@samsquanch678 ай бұрын
New to streaming just picked up the pro plus and after using for a couple hours I gotta say I’m impressed! Some reviews said you would need an external dac for this to sound good? Sounds great on its own and very easy to set up! The only thing I’m curious about is would Tidal or Spotify sound better than Amazon music which again sounds great!
@user-ps6kt7eh2mАй бұрын
I wish the wiim product would do dsd digitally out of coax that way i could use my external dac dad feature. I like my dac better than the pro plus dac.
@bobk38406 ай бұрын
I really like the WiiM streamers. I see Joe Satriani and Phil Collins on album covers over your shoulders. Can’t make out the rest. Great reviews.
@theaudioanalyst6 ай бұрын
Hello... Some of the other picture disc's on display include Warren Zevon's "Werewolves of London," Rush's "Hemispheres," "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" soundtrack, The Who's "Who Are You," David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs" and "...Ziggy Stardust...," Heart's "Dreamboat Annie," Queen's "Sheer Heart Attack," Black Sabbath's "Master of Reality," and Pink Floyd's "The Dark Side of the Moon" and "A Saucerful of Secrets."
@Ricky-cl5bu9 ай бұрын
Great review
@Gadgetdad0077 ай бұрын
You need to experiment more by using the WiiM mini with an SMSL S-U1 DAC. You will definitely get better sound.
@theaudioanalyst7 ай бұрын
Um, I guess you missed the point. Using it with virtually *any* external DAC would likely deliver better performance. That isn't any sort of stretch to imagine, nor does it keep the total budget under a hundred bucks US. But I defy you to spend $99 more effectively to be able to more simply or effortlessly add a more than merely acceptable sounding digital streaming system to your "vintage" or entry level system.
@nexpose18 ай бұрын
Can't get audio over coax to my Sony 1080 receiver. Will mess around with some audio settings on receiver but seems set correctly. Put in a ticket at Wiim but no idea really.
@theaudioanalyst8 ай бұрын
Be SURE the WiiM has its audio output set to COAX out... It will ONLY support one output at a time, and if it is set to Line Out or Optical Out, it will not be able to send any signal out over the Coaxial output. Use the WiiM Home app, go into the settings, choose Audio Output, and make SURE that COAX Out is selected...
@iampuzzleman2829 ай бұрын
So does this take the place of a streamer dac that i spent a few thousand dollars for? It's interesting. However, as is the case with most app controlled devices it always gets down to the interface and usability of the product they can be extremely annoying and frustrating. This would've been a good thing to focus on. When I sit down and challenge myself with DSP I am always challenged with the interface Learning curve issues. Under the hood it's a great product but the people spending the time working on the interface don't seem to take the users to heart while they design an Interface.
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
Hello again. TECHNICALLY, yes, it could "take the place" of any streamer/DAC. The question would be, as overachieving as it is at its retail of just over two-hundred bucks, how will its sonics compare with one you purchased for a few thousand bucks. While its absurdly great performance in its price range is impossible to deny, as I said in my commentary, I’m not suggesting that this $220 superstar will be the sonic equal of significantly better-designed and executed streamers from the more popular companies. But, for those who want to stream using vintage gear or are on a tight budget, shut the front door! As to the App and its interface, it is 2023. As uncomfortable as some may be with such technologies, we need to put that behind us and get used to the reality that such interfaces are not only here to stay, they are the standard now and for the foreseeable future. And if you use something like Roon, once it is on you network and connected, you may not have to access it via the WiiM app again... 😉
@michaelwright16029 ай бұрын
The interface of the WiiM products is probably one of the best out there. Hook it up to a nice external DAC, along with the built in 10 band EQ and PEQ of the WiiM, and I think it would give your several thousand dollar unit a run for its money. Add an inexpensive linear power supply to the WiiM... I bet you would be surprised, and disappointed.
@vinyljoe19409 ай бұрын
Is it me or does the Wiim pro feel cheap and light?
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
Um, it does! But only because it IS cheap and light! 😉 Not that you can tell that from listening, however.
@hectoralvarez9419 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
It TRULY is an exceptional streaming solution. I was blown away, and love mine... 😁
@user-ch5dx8ws5d6 ай бұрын
Fine review of the WiiM Pro Plus! Saw the CI Audio power supply, what voltage does it give? I've a similar power supply which used to power my Squeezebox Duet that outputted 9v.
@theaudioanalyst6 ай бұрын
What you saw between the WiiM Pro Plus and the Channel Islands Audio PLC•1 Mk II linestage is the Channel Islands Audio VAC 1 Supply - which powers the PLC•1 Mk II Linestage. It is not meant for anything else. The WiiM Pro Plus was powered by its included USB plugin supply. Here is the link to the rundown on my entire "Second Space" system. www.theaudioanalyst.com/second_space/
@user-ch5dx8ws5d6 ай бұрын
Many thanks!@@theaudioanalyst 👍
@JakeBlues-dq9xg9 ай бұрын
Hi there, just to check, are you saying the pro plus sounded significantly better than the pro/mini even when just using to stream to an external dac using the digital output? Cheers
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
Well, no. All three models, the Mini, Pro, and Pro Plus ONLY offer bit-perfect output up to 24-bit at 192 kHz over either their optical or coaxial digital outputs. But the Pro's analog output offers up to 32-bit and 768kHz PCM playback AND native DSD up to Quad DSD, or DSD512. And I suspect another significant component adding to its remarkable analog sonic prowess is the discrete output buffer stage it employs.
@JakeBlues-dq9xg9 ай бұрын
@@theaudioanalyst cheers for clarifying. I have a pro outputting to a dac, and although it was my understanding they all sounded the same in that respect, some other reports insinuated the pro might be better slightly even just as a streamer. Maybe i should have just paid the extra to get the good dac in the plus to test vs my denafrips ares. There is probably not much in it apart from the extra expense 😂
@bankruptfilly8 ай бұрын
@@JakeBlues-dq9xgyou won't be able to hear any audible difference. It's just marketing
@gasolin753 ай бұрын
Is the subs on ?
@styxbnw19 ай бұрын
Hey yo dude what brand and model number are those trapazoid looking small bookshelf speakers on E147?
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
They are discussed at length in "E144: The Audience ClairAudient 1+ 1 V5" - here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htendqSnubLVdX0.htmlsi=eqoivQX5PzoB0ZSJ
@kdomster91418 ай бұрын
Did you use Quality LPS with it? If so what difference it made ?
@theaudioanalyst8 ай бұрын
Honestly, as bloody good as it works as is, I've not bothered to fuss with an aftermarket linear power supply. But, they ALWAYS make an improvement, so... 😊
@stohl829 ай бұрын
For shits and giggles, You should use it with your Ideon Dac in your main System for an afternoon.
How can you interface with it by phone? By computer?
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
@@altops4490To my knowledge, there is no "interface" for computers. But with mobile devices, it connects using their free downloadble app (Android or iOS) and Bluetooth...
@stohl829 ай бұрын
@@theaudioanalyst I hope you have a wonderful and safe trip. Kristin and I will be going to my parents for Thanksgiving. Have a great Thanksgiving with the wife and kids. I 🙏🏻 your eye surgery goes well too. I know it's been a bit since you have a video on an artist/album. If I could make a suggestion. How about a video on The Wrecking Crew. I'm sure your viewer would enjoy it. I would too, I do have some skin in the game. My mother's step brother is Sylde Hyde. He passed in 2019. Who was a member. Just a thought
@theaudioanalyst9 ай бұрын
@@stohl82 Thank you, my friend... Safe holiday travels to you and Kristin! Happy Thanksgiving! 😏
@fifimombo87288 ай бұрын
Please , What is your complete system here ? Thanks
@theaudioanalyst8 ай бұрын
Here is the link to my Second Space system... www.theaudioanalyst.com/second_space/ And, here is the full video introducing the concept... E141: Introducing "Second Space," with Maurice Jeffries - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gqeXjbBip7HUn6M.htmlsi=BlISmYTbKlgSoUkj
@danwalkley3048 ай бұрын
I can't get DSD to play, you sure the pro does DSD?
@theaudioanalyst8 ай бұрын
No, it doesn't. And I never said it does. I said that the WiiM Pro Plus does... Starting at 7:03, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/htpyp7mqmtbNnIU.htmlsi=4XAK6Gr3el-SMGT2&t=423, I said, "More to the point, while the Pro Plus supports bit-perfect output up to 24-bit at 192 kHz over its digital optical or coaxial output, as do both the Mini and Pro, its analog output offers up to 32-bit and 768kHz AND native DSD up to Quad DSD, or DSD512."
@danwalkley3048 ай бұрын
@theaudioanalyst apologies, I have the pro plus, I tried DSD 64 from a stream and nothing fom RCA Audio out on the WiiM
@theaudioanalyst8 ай бұрын
@@danwalkley304 Hello again. I'm not sure what to tell you other than you must have something misconfigured. I just now verified that my WiiM Pro Plus could successfully stream recordings at DSD64, 128, and 256...
@danwalkley3048 ай бұрын
@theaudioanalyst I downloaded content from NativeDSD music, in .dsf format, in 64 and 512, wiim app finds the file and file name, I press play and the "wavy line" in the play button starts moving as if its accessing etc. Then just stops. Or skips to next dsd/.dsf track and repeats this till the end of the album/folder, can't seem to find anything on the net about this 😕
@danwalkley3048 ай бұрын
@theaudioanalyst I also found this on the wiim forum..... "My point is mainly that WiiM advertised the DSD512 feature in the specs, so we all technically paid for this feature, yet it is missing. It cannot hurt to have this feature implemented, even if you don't use it. And if you some day part with your WiiM Pro Plus, it'll be more valuable with DSD support than not."
@Pete.across.the.street8 ай бұрын
He doesn't sound Irish.
@AdriaanW19665 ай бұрын
Sitting in that chair is not the best visual experience for the viewers.