If you think the M3 is boring, put an Alpha N airbox + tune on it and you‘ll get the sickest induction noise from any car ever

The whole concept of driving slow cars fast is amazing. I’ve owned some fast cars but these little cars have way more character. My current stable has a 1997 Miata 2017 GTI that is tuned The GTI would smoke the Miata in every aspect from acceleration, braking and handling and yet the Miata is more fun to drive.

I have a 1987 E30 316 carburator, it's only 90ch but it was my first car, I used it as a daily and each day was a pleasure to go to school ! You're right about spending money for the maintenance, I bought it only 1700€ (in France) but spent almost 3300€ fixing a lot of stuff... For a student it was hard but I would do it again if I had to ;) I drove it 2 years before switching it for a brand new mx-5 1.5L ND because of gasoline consumption with 100km/day i have for my first job (switched from 10L/100km to 6L/100km while keep driving with fun the foot to the floor) I'm happy with the miata, but i kept the E30 for week-end because it's so much fun to drive, in a different way ! Whenever I thought of selling the E30, I took it for a drive and after less than 10mn, i was like "Hell no, no way to sell it..." hahaha E30 forever ;)

Bang for your buck..get an e46 m3 and Honda s2k. I did and will never look back. Both still parked in my garage and driven weekly. Easy to maintain, enough power for the streets, and styling to stay classic forever

As a current owner of a 1985 Porsche 911 (my father bought it before the price boom) I can say that they are an absolute blast to drive, honestly if you can afford it, buy both. These two cars are unbelievable and come from a different more analog time that made driving fun.

Such a great episode gentlemen, keep up the great work can't wait for season 3!

Seeing that cardinal red leather interior in that M3 makes me really miss mine, and regret beyond belief selling it! 😭

22 min video with two of my favorite cars ever from one of my favorite channels? Don't mind if I do. It sucks that both of these cars were once affordable and now are pretty much becoming unattainable for the average person. Especially if you actually want one in nice condition.

Went from a Porsche 981 GT4 to a '84 Carrera. The '84 is just magic. Better than a modern GT4 IMHO. It's tough to drive but really fantastic.

I love your honesty!!! your bravery is admired. I agree with you a 100%! well done.

This video is amazing! Can you add clips of the gauges while driving next time? Watching the needles move around on older cars is awesome. Keep up the excellent work!

I bought an E30 M3 back in 2004 at 21 years old at arguably it's lowest valuation. Very glad I did! Still my favorite car in the whole world! And I can put my kids in the back.

you guys give a great idea of what is actually driving those cars, love your inputs. LOVE your Channel

Fantastic video. The scenery, the roads, the cinematography. For old car guys, this is surely one of the all time great car videos of these 2 iconic cars.

You guys do such a good job. Everyday Driver has a great story!

Great review 😊 best way to start my day.. thank you 😎

They're both so gorgeous but the M3 has a special place in my heart

Great videos as always 👏🏾

Can't afford an e30 m3...so I bought an e30 325iS

Two of my favorite cars from most likely my favorite period, from a driver's car standpoint. Seeing this video makes me want to get something smaller than my BMW E60 M5 sitting in my garage.

I owned and daily drove an E30 M3 for nearly 20 years. For some of that same time I ran a Porsche race shop. The way I always described driving the E30 M3 was that it danced, so it was cool to hear you describe the handling similarly. You can rotate it on demand with use of the pedals and steering. I used to occasionally bring it out to a PCA autocross and it would absolutely dominate the Porsches in that setting. I even beat an imported (not legal in the USA) 996 GT3 more than once. I’ve owned a lot of legendary cars in my life, and the E30 M3 is one of the few that lives up to the hype. It just sucks I sold my E30 M3 for $7K and will likely never own another. At least I have the memories.

Great video guys! My practical side prevents me from owning either of these but I am making due with the grandchildren, 997.2 and E82. Looking forward to more excellent matchups!

Having to work around the M3's lesser power makes the car more engaging which adds to the fun factor. One simply can't power through a 30 mph up hill corner but must shift down probably two gears and get the rev's up to maintain one's pace. And that is fun. Also, if you're driving public 2-lane roads out in the country side, well you'll still be going exceedingly fast if you're pushing it. So the E30M3 has it. And the old 911SC? Nothing to complain about. Nothing at all.

Awesome film and amazing cars. Great job guys. 👍🏼

Wow... just wow! That was beautifully done. Well played fellas, well played.

@7:37 with a lighter weight vehicle, 192hp can be extraordinarily playful, especially with a high revving four banger. There's so much talk about 0 - 60mph numbers in automotive journalism, I believe that the ~40 - 80mph range gets forgotten.

I had 3x g50s and a 915 - preferred that box for driving pleasure - g50 good for everyday use tho'. The aural pleasure of the 3.2 is totally unique and perhaps the best bit of the experience. Great motorway car - perfection at a steady 100-110 mph.

Absolutely brilliant

Both great classics I can’t through salt on either one 👍🏽 beautiful

Gave this a thumbs up before it even started.

Great revisiting this one again after watching it on TV. Excellent video with great production values. On that note, I was wondering if you've ever considered moving to 4k HDR filming? With the great cinematography you guys have, it would be awesome to see it in even higher resolution (and more especially with the greater color depth of HDR). Just something to think about if you haven't already! ;)

Wonderful. Thanks guys.

This is such an engaging Video...well done guys ! I have an E30 M3 and was about to sell it....watching this video helped me arrive at a final decision not to sell. I look at these videos and marvel at the fact that...Wow!!! I actually own an E30 M3. Great stuff ! The car may not be as fast as current cars but the character and feedback from this little angel is phenomenal and cannot be matched by anything on the market today.

Paul, you picked what....I'm shocked. I'm so surprised Todd didn't fall over. If I wasn't sitting down, I would have fallen over. It's cool, I'll pick the Porsche. Todd, bring Paul to the hospital ER for an MRI on his head. Obviously, he must have some kind of head trauma, lol. I hope you're both having a good day, take care.

I would love to see you do a comparison video with this same E30 M3 and with a 1987-88 Porsche 944S (not the base, and not the turbo.) Those two cars are almost identical spec-wise, and were what people cross-shopped back in the late 80s.

This is the Porsche and BMW that made me fall in love with these two car company's

The E30 M3 could be a 318i below 4000rpm for someone who has no clue how to drive it. But IF you know how to drive it in its powerband, it goes like a bat from hell. Goldielockzone: 4500-7500rpm. Remove the limiter and it will keep putting out power well over 8000rpm until it destroys itself. You have to work hard with an S14. No lazy, low rpm torque but screeching high rpms is the way to go. Trust me. I know.

Utah makes your reviews so much better.

Both epic! I owned an 87 Carrera and it was an event. Ha ha. Loved that friggin car. But these guys are on point. I have driven several of the gen 1 M3s and they are so awesome.

That 911 does not have a whale tale. It has the Carrera tail. The whale tale is the larger / deeper tale used on the turbo.

Great job guys.

Great video guys.

I love driving my older cars but man it’s hard on my wallet sometimes since I’m a working student. I will not let go of them though anytime soon it’s a whole different driving experience

These are out of reach for many of us every day drivers. What more affordable, modern (safer) cars are comparable? MX-5, S2000, GT86, first gen Boxster? Great video as always. I’d love to you throw in a modern car against an older car though you’d get hate for it.

Great video !! Where was it filmed ?? Would love to drive it !!

Great cars and beautiful road scene.

White e30 two door does it for me. To think I gave a 318is away many years ago.. If only

I went from modern Porsche's (including a 981 GT4) to an '84 911 3.2 Targa...and it's my favorite thing ever.

While the 911 has the promenance to be a competitor to this E30, I feel like a 944 is closer to an actual competitor to the BMW, especially the NA. Neutral balance, coupe, front engine, water cooled, similar power, handling, and 4 cylinder. I guess the 911 survived like the M3, but that's it really. Especially when price is factored in, get that feel and fun for a fraction.

Nice video as always.....but give us an idea of the filming location. You do film your stuff in some amazing locations.

Epic cars of the 80's.. both with their own personality! The Honda S2000 is the most similar car of the "modern era" to this Icons

I like the intro music and the music at 2:00!!! What is it?

I miss the days when I used to run my Datsun 280z with my friend Cams e30. That was a special time.

epic...

Porsche all the way

A little quote:"... 5:34 So it's not the fastest car on the planet and nobody cares. Smiles get bigger the faster we go..." Let's call this a blatant contradiction.

3.2L 911 FTW!!!

That's why I'm an M car guy. Even though I don't quite own one yet 🤔

Having had both these in the same years and models I can say that BMW was more fun to drive but the Porsche is what you wanted to be seen in.

got the e30 looks so good. In any variant. Probs would pick the porsche tho idk

Nice video guys 🦁👍

You know what makes the cars, the video and the driving *extra* special? THE ROADS! Where in Utah is this? Anybody know the Hwy #'s?

Both of them great cars...personally, I'd take the 911...and probably the 911SC, which harkens back more to the earlier feel of what made Porsche special. Down a bit more HP, and uses the 915 over the G50, but that requires even more engagement, and I think better. But all of them great. I've owned BMW and Porsche, and it's the Porsche for me. Overall, love them both

The mid and late 60s Porsches and the BMW 2002 tii and CS 3500 were the first German cars that caught my eye in the old Autoweek/Competition Press and Sports Car Graphic. Do you boys know about those rags?

I would probably call it a tie, but drive the M3 4 days a week and the Carrera: 3!

When are you guys going to put that Icon episode up on your KZfaq page ?

Makes me wish I was born 20 years earlier so I could have actually experienced more 80s cars

Both cars are now Bangers in the modern era

One is a SPORTS CAR, the other a Sports Sedan. It's like comparing peanut butter, and crunchy peanut butter. The Porsche is more real . Great video ,I thoroughly enjoyed it. I just watched a current Vintage Daytona race and amongst the exotic fair , the stand outs to me was a BRE replica Datsun Z driven by John Morton. And an old school racing 1st Gen RX7. In the field to me they stood out as..." What is that " Time has made them look more Exotic over time ...very interesting !

My dream cars.

that´s right

I can't afford any of these cars, but If I had the money, I would take the 911 because I always liked 911 as far as I can remember

Used Low: meaning like completely wrecked?

If only modern car companies put some thought and effort into driver experience relative to steering input, driver to road connectivity, and feelings of raw emotion triggered by the driving experience as they once did.... Now all the "driver connectivity" is placed in steering wheel buttons and superfluous infotainment screens. The only "connectivity" modern cars have are there wi-fi services....

I'd trade three 911s for a classic M3 E30 in white like this one. That's why they're like 50-60 grand to get one now. Ultimate driver's car that dominated DTM and Touring car racing in the 1980s. I own a white 2020 Subaru BRZ (w/ performance package) that's like a modern throwback to the E30. 200 HP, perfect front/rear balance. manual, tight steering, lightweight, toss-able, rear wheel drive, OMG.

Funny, you didnt mention why the e30m3 was made? And what they accomplished racing. Zip....

BMW E30 M3 4ever!! I will never sell mine, and will probably be buried in it!

Not a fair comparison. 2 different weight classes

Good choice :)

do you have a column where I can read more?

+Todd - - 19:15 ... I saw it, but I never saw it coming!

Owned an 87 3.2 Carrera. Neither this BMW, nor anything else, comes remotely close. No Chance.

The GOAT E30 M3

I don’t know if you got a chance to drive those again. Watched the show a long time, but for some reason I missed this episode. The e30 looks modded, and that G50 looks extremely stock. Two things is - make sure the suspension is sorted on the 911, the E30 looked much more sorted, suspension-wise - and then make sure you’re between 4k - 6k on that 3.2 pretty much all the time, totally changes the driving experience. You’re right that the M3 is fun and peppy, but just based on engine sounds, if you were driving the 911 as hard as you all were pushing that M3, you might have felt different. Maybe not though, who knows?

These cars are an ode to a specific time period of mechanical achievement where the suspension, steering racks, and engines all provided a well balanced, but not perfect car that gave such a unique experience. Whereas today's cars cost cutting measures and "safety protocol" excuses multiplied by over engineering equal a ubiquitous -numbing experience.

guys, the lead in music doesn't work. it's just not everyday driver.

Iknow a guy that bought a 87 911 with 132K miles for 14K in 2005. He sold it a few years later for about the same. That same car now in days is almost twice that cost.

E30s are 90k-190k its crazy

Problems with sound editing.

...vs. 328 GTS? :-)

I'm not a rich guy either, I traded the 06 Cayman in on a 19 Elantra....boo to me. I'm a trucker who loves driving, and I'm currently saving for a 718 any form, Cayman or Boxster. I've rented it twice and don't care if it's a 4 banger,. it's an awesome engine, and it's a tremendous Porsche, even better than my 06 Cayman, but not as charming as my 85 911 was.

I'll have the M3 please....

This video deserves more views...

What does chuckable mean? Send it?

I like the E30 M3, and I drive an '87 Porsche 944S. For two years Porsche made a 944 with a 2.5L 16-valve four, and the spec sheet reads VERY similarly to the E30 M3, especially the '88 cars(this engine would live on in 3.0L form in the S2 and 968). Power is within four horsepower, both have big, boxed arches, both have similarly slow steering, both have trailing arms at the rear, both have great brakes, and very docile, chuckable handling. Unlike EVERY other 944, the S has a 7k redline. The 944S doesn't have much motorsport tradition to lean on, unless we want to count the 924 GTP that ran at Le Mans and won its class. In true Porsche form it really feels like a dedicated sports car, even if its something of a bitsa.

Ok Ok .. I’m very interested

I worked a vehicle workshop all my life and was lucky enough to have a couple of 911s . I wish I had them now for the thrill and the sound of them and the shape of them was beautiful . It brought back great memories of the porkers and the excitement of having finally getting caught with fast Bmws and 911s though the insurance was punishment in the old days and the insurance companies didn't miss you with massive premiums and I wasn't Mark Zuckerberg or Jay Leno !.It was all over too quickly and other priorities came up .......girl friends and vacations to different countries and doctors bills ,........it was a lot of work and fun though and pleasant memories . Better to have lived a little , it helps with the settling down bit..............NOT ! ........i don't miss police traffic attempts at catching you if they could .That was fun !

'80s cars are the best cars ever made. But hey, everything was better in the '80s!

7:37 this is how i feel abt the stock mk1 86

Clean e30!