It would had "EA Sports , its in the game"

Probably like nascar 09. And considering what EA is today with games like Madden. I think we should be glad EA doesn’t have the nascar license anymore.

Honestly 09 multiplayer was awesome, better than anything on console after it.

Coincidentally, 2005 was were EA released their last good NFS game until Heat, which was Carbon. And that game alone could be covered here because that and MW2005 has a sad story of cuts.

basically NASCAR 09 w/ roster and calendar updates

Is ignition that bad?

@@Rook00 ignition is the worst game I have ever played

@@HolograpicTaco22 Second worst game I have ever played. The worst is Heat Evolution.

@@HolograpicTaco22 agreed, I had more fun w/ the Eutechnyx games (NASCAR '15 for PC felt more worth my money than NASCAR '21 did) and w/ the Heat series as well

@@Rook00 its worse.

I'm really hoping one day in the near future us as Nascar fans can FINALLY have a reputable Nascar game on consoles that comes out on a regualr basis and is full of content by passionate devs not hindered by execs and managment. No iracing isn't for me. I don't want to buy/pay a subscription service for every car/track, where I have to use my real name, be always online in cockpit mode, and if I stop paying can't play. Also yes, I play NR2003 regularly, but I am talking about a modern game here. I know more than anyone NR2003 is still top class in quality but its not too much to ask for a console Nascar game as well in 2022 lol.

@@Continuum7 indycar is already seemingly trying to give the license of their cars to a different company, they were talking to the ams 2 devs about it. I really hope we can see these racing series get some proper coverage in the gaming space. It's tough because its really hard to justify making whole game series and whatnot for each individual racing series, yet the alternative of releasing multiple racing series under a single game is clearly proving to be incredibly difficult to nail for sim racing developers, and hardly feels like a real solution with some of the more popular series (that are still not popular enough to warrant standalone releases) being locked behind paywalls on otherwise already expensive sims.

pyramid scheme is an understatement for all the microtransactions that have become mainstream over the years, dlc was a nice addition for awhile with any game, but it seemed like companies realized that alot of people would be willing to still shell out money after buying the base game and that helped drive the train down the tracks.

Do you guys even know what a pyramid scheme even is lmfao

Sierra's NR2003 and iRacing are far better than anything EA could put out anyways!

Heat 5 isnt amazing but it might be the best we have for the next few years

iracing.....

@@mz1958 Iracing is good and all but not everyone has access to it. I can't afford thousands of dollars for a computer to run it, a good console NASCAR game is what we need. Heat 5 has been it so far.

Same for fight night

Agreeable but pretty soon the games would get gradually worse and have nothing but micro transactions at least the devs of ignish are trying to make the game better look at F1 22

48 Waffles Spitting Jesus here. I have to say 21 Ignition is the most unplayable racing game I've ever put my controller to.

I'm glad there are still new NR2003 mods released every often.

@@thetechfromheaven But the mod i (also the whole community too) want the most for NR2003 is effects & physics interactions overhaul, with realistic effects & physics looks the experience should be much much immersive! Do u guy know/remember the NascarTG 2011 trailer vid? The effects & physics in that trailer blow my mind.

Look let me say this and you probably won’t even respond but just hear me out. I do agree Nascar 21 ignition in terms overall quality is very shit. For example: no rear view mirror, no custom setups, lack of career mode, no challenges, not even a true difficulty setting. And not to mention all of the lack of bugs that it has. But just hear me out when you are able to get into a online session on N21 ignition I’ve actually had more fun on that game than heat 5. Let me explain first when there is no custom setups and everyone can race “clean” then there is no significant advantage which forces you to use your skill more than just your setup. The Plate racing on that game actually is very well done in terms on the way the plate racing is with the new package you can actually get a run and pass someone on either side of you. You can say the game is bad all you want but Heat 5 you can’t tell me you could pass at Daytona or Talladega on the outside in a online lobby it was literally impossible unless you had 2 pushers. This is coming from someone who has the platinum (100%) on every nascar game ever made. Don’t believe look up my user name and it will pull it up on google search. I’m not trying to defend Ignition at all but if people would buy the game cheap now and actually played the online they would see the racing is actually not all bad if people race clean. The no mirror sucks I get that but for the actual driving model it handles smooth as shit. It’s super easy to drive and it’s not super choppy in the corners for example you can’t sit here and tell me that heat 5 was smoother you would see multiple people in public lobbies do crazy S motions on the track. Causing you to wreck because of there lack of holding the car straight. The biggest thing I actually respect N21 ignition for was if you hooked someone in the rear they are going around just like real life but on heat 5 if you try the same thing you go into the wall. The physics on heat 5 honestly makes no sense at all. I agree the game overall is much better but I think people need to actually play the online portion of it first with a open mind and actually review it based off that. I don’t think n21 ignition is great at all I would put it the worst game possibly of all time but I still think heat 1 was way worse. But besides that I would like to hear a reply from you but if anyone wants to reply I would greatly be willing to talk more about this..

Yep, just look at Madden. Since the NFL 2K series ended following EA's exclusive license it has literally been the exact same game for well over a decade, just with better graphics every few years and new physics. The controls and gameplay are pretty much the exact same as Madden 2005, the last game with licensed competition.

Don’t worry, one day we will get it

I worked on Nascar 10 at Eutechnyx......I believe that was finally released as Nascar 11 tho because it got delayed.??? I just looked online to confirm, quote, "NASCAR The Game: 2011, also known as NASCAR 2011: The Game, is a 2011 racing video game, developed by Eutechnyx" When I was still working on it it was Nascar 2010.

Huh. Well I guess this video was pointless then.

​@@PhantomMarkthat is really interesting. Recently got to play the Wii version and it is solid as a game of the 2011 season. But i'd never know it was a "reskin" of a supposed 2010 game

Well of course. EA had moved onto developing for the next-gen consoles of that time. 09 for PS2 was a reskinned 08 and who can blame them.

@@doublefourmedia Have you ever gone to Watkins Glen in NASCAR 09 on the PS2? The pack will literally grip-roll in the first corner! The least they could have done was some quality control!

The PS3 is much better but it still doesn’t excuse how broken 09 on PS2 was. I say the same for all if the Eutechnyx games, just because a version is slightly better doesn’t excuse it for being awful on other versions

Madden 08 was good

Yes! Kind of like F1 has done and like NBA is doing.

I think the next nascar game should be a complete playable game

There was an attempt. Papyrus did Nascar Legends for PC in 1999 based off the 1970 season.

@@patmanbnl I loved that game. The challenge of managing your tires made the thrill of victory so satisfying

​@@ryanespinoza7297 let's start with that first

I loved 06 too, I had hundreds of hours invested in that game,

That’s the main reason I stopped playing 04, couldn’t drive without assists. I played the hell out of 05,06, and 07, even though 06 is just a carbon copy of 07.

it would've been on the ps2 probably it would've had the better one

I wonder if I would've been a nascar version on NFS hot pursuit

NR2003 still stands as the best one. no game has since given me that *gasp* when playing it the first time. They really put love and effort into that game

A historic mode would have been so cool

Not better than iRacing and NASCAR Racing 2003 tho

As long as motorsports games has the license....it will never happen

at least we still have new NR2003 mods every often...

what's wrong with the current one

@@timelymirror7826 It's

dude just play iracing......best nascar racing ever created

Probably would've been better than Heat Evolution *shutters*

@@inky.64 I mean that's not much of an achievement

@@razormc954 Honestly hot take but Heat Evolution imo is the worst NASCAR game out of them all. 21 may be buggy as hell, NASCAR 09 may have horrible psychics and no manufacturers, but at least there both funny kinda bad. At least I can get some fun out of them (21 is honestly alright racing wise). NHE is just depressingly bad to me.

I honestly don't understand why 08 and 09 were hated. Those 2 games were fun in their own right. Especially 09's multi-player.

@@Carshtime True

They done the same with Battlefield 2042

wasn't f1 21 made by ea

@@timelymirror7826 it was made by Codemasters before they got bought out by EA a few months after the game was released.

how do you know that ea was making a 2004 game

@@timelymirror7826 because the FIA (who run F1) & EA were in talks to do their deal. Plus all of the teams agreed to have their cars & drivers in the game along with all of the tracks. There were a few teams especially Sauber & BAR Honda who were really hoping for this game to come out because both teams wanted to grow their fan bases in North America through its release & because Sony did not advertise their F1 games in North America well. It almost happened because the FIA & EA agreed to a deal but then Sony threatened to sue both EA & the FIA. EA decided not to fight Sony and backed off mainly because Sony & EA were already battling in court (with 2K thrown in there as well) over who had the exclusive rights to make video games for the NHL at the time.

NASCAR Kart Racing exists

Circus Maximus, I know that one. That track was insane

I miss that though commentary during the race Terry Labonte is moving through the field Irvin is now in the 3rd position

"WHOA!" "Look at that action!" "He's running up through the field!"

Devils Canyon was a fun track too.

Sedona from Forza, High Speed Ring from GT and Coca Cola Superspeedway would all be great additions, but I don't imagine it would be easy for another developer to licence all three of them into their own game.

I liked how they used the fantasy tracks to sneak real world tracks into the game without licensing them. Red Ball Raceway in NASCAR 2005 was Winchester Speedway from Indiana and they even had a "wink, wink" moment with it because when you raced there in the Modifieds in Career Mode, the race was the Indiana 100 or something of that sort. They just gave the main grandstand a roof and removed the woods from around the track.

@@RB3Author yeah the Tiburon short track was supposed to be Bowman gray stadium and I think that Mr Clean Raceway was supposed to be Rockingham and Craftsman Raceway I think was supposed to be Disney World or something.

If i remember there were alot of game breaking glitches that would brick your saves, and the handling was seen as a step down from 05.

My 2nd game as a true fan and I agree. Total team control was an insane feature and the new dodge designs were great. Also had all the legends still racing (Rusty, MM, DJ), and the dominant Roush cars

I'm not aware because I started with 07, and then 08 and 09 all on the PS2. Then we got NASCAR 06 eventually and it was literally the best game I've played.

NASCAR 06 was my first game too but Atlanta was a horrible track in that game. The apron glitches are the worst part.

It was common in those days, the consoles couldn't handle the PC versions so they made different ones. Same with F1 Challenge

well, 2003 was the last season that the race to the caution was allowed

You could race back to the caution in Nascar Thunder 2004.

That explains why they still used the splitter braced cots and why Robby Gordon was a Toyota still.

@@juanatethejetdryer7580 I can't remember the rules of Nascar from back then so much tbh, but if that helps align the memory for you glad to have helped put things together :) I honestly don't know how the game did, I remember at the time the damage model we were working on was cutting edge with torn metal etc, stuff you still don't see today ? if that made it into the game IDK, the AI system was quite in depth as well using a multi lane corridor system I designed, in testing at least the AI performed quite well, all that said I have never to this day played a final product.

If that is the one with the pit UNDER the stands-- yes-- it was kewl!