Driver went straight in to bike box on a red light, then forgot to indicate until after making their manoeuvre to top it off. Really quite lazy driving. I would expect better driving standards from Essex Police officers.
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@someguymatts3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable how inconsistent the punishments are. Despite numerous reports like this, not a single action
@makecyclingsafeagain65753 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong, inconsistency is a big issue.
@thomasreed49 Жыл бұрын
Don’t know what you’re on about there was no danger the police didn’t have to overtake the cyclist again which is another hazard can’t see anything wrong.
@QiuEnnan3 ай бұрын
@@thomasreed49 Overtaking a cycle isn't hazardous unless you do it wrong...
@thomasreed493 ай бұрын
@@QiuEnnan But they were overtaken encounter traffic lights they take the front again then you have to overtake them again. We have them do this when there is a cycle path but for whatever mad reason they choose not to use it.
@bartonseagrave9605 Жыл бұрын
The Police are allowed to break the Law, ask a crooked Judge.
@rogerborg11 күн бұрын
I've reported similar to ScotPlod's professional standards, with zero fucks given.
@brookyf12 жыл бұрын
So...yr within yr rights to pop round to the drivers door and ask what they doing in the bike box....dont be afraid of the police if they do wrong they should be told too...
@robertovers1863 Жыл бұрын
yes he could have done that and the nice officers would have helped him to reach that itch up his back with his elbow
@retroonhisbikes3 жыл бұрын
Leading by example
@michaelgaskell7408 Жыл бұрын
He should have been indicating while waiting for the lights to change,NOT,as the lights changed.
@trs4u7 күн бұрын
This seems like a good job all round. There's no need to go to arguments over it. They failed to drive properly, you reported it as facility is provided for you to, and they got their course-conditional and hopefully subsequently pay more attention to their driving. Ideally, it would have been other police that dobbed them in, but volunteers doing their work for them isn't a bad fallback? One day 'black boxes' in our own cars will be phoning us in for inadequate driving. Who are we going to blame then?
@seanwilson4718 ай бұрын
Traffic law, rule 178. All motorists including motorcycles MUST stop at the 1st white line if the the lights are amber or red. Avoid blocking the advanced line at other times, not traffic law but not nice. This driver failed to stop at the 1st white line and i can see no reasonable excuse for it. Also he did not make his intentions to turn left by signaling untill after he moved off. If i was the cyclist and the car was signaling left while waiting at the lights and had left the box clear i would if been inclined to hold back anyway and allow it to turn. Very poor driving but well done to the cyclist in making it a non event and simply presenting the footage later.
@Tailspin802 ай бұрын
It’s left turn only. Straight ahead is a bus lane. Indicators not necessary.
@kev7916Күн бұрын
Wow ! What a major crime. Get over it 🤦
@raindog7720 күн бұрын
I wouldve definitely have parked in front of them, l live near a Police station and regularly catch them cutting a corner where i live, i sit on my bike and wait for them to move, they know they're in the wrong, spot my camera and then go round me, so many of them do it
@richardoakley88002 жыл бұрын
It should also be noted that if the light changing mean you can't stop for the first soli white line you must stop before the SECOND solid with line. Or officer had positioned his vehicle to observe a potential criminal act and therefore carrying out his lawful duties..so he or she would be excempt..and no keyboard warriors..they have to have their prity lights on to do this.
@stevethomas2559 Жыл бұрын
The first line , not the box, should be regarded as the stop line. You should approach a traffic lights at a speed that enables you to stop before the line if the lights turn red. Would it be ok to be half a cars length over a normal (non box) stop line because you were traveling too fast?
@ryanmitcham55225 ай бұрын
@@stevethomas2559 >You should approach a traffic lights at a speed that enables you to stop before the line if the lights turn red. I know i'm late to this but you need to think this through. The first line is the stop line. But the second one is as well. Take a junction without an ASL. When the light changes to amber, if you are far enough back to be able to stop safely before the line you must stop, if you cannot safely stop before the line, you may continue through on amber. Now in situation of a junction with an ASL, that creates an area where depending on the timing of the lights it's entirely possible that the light changes to amber at that awkward moment where it's not possible to stop before the first stop line, but you are able to stop before the second stop line. This doesn't have to be related to going too fast, if anything it happens far more in the reverse situation where you are travelling slowly, so when the light changes as you are already crossing the first line, you can easily stop before the second. The law in this situation requires you to stop before the second stop line. To continue would be an offence.
@ryanmitcham55225 ай бұрын
>they have to have their prity lights on to do this. I maybe misunderstanding your comment, but for clarify, a police officer does NOT need to be operating emergency equipment to use their exemptions. This is because there are situations where they want to use their exemptions without tipping their hand, or or example in an unmarked vehicle where they don't yet want to reveal their presence. There may be individual force policy regarding this, but legally no emergency equipment needs to be activated for their exemptions to apply.
@dalvirrana65642 жыл бұрын
I would have challenged them straight away just for bike box .... they are not an example, they clearly are well above the law. Do as we say not as we do...
@wessexdruid75983 ай бұрын
And then they'd just try to retaliate. Much better to phone the local nick and complain to their inspector.
@michaelfrancis7072 Жыл бұрын
When the police car stopped at the lights he should have stopped behind the cycle box, good spotting.
@alexandermaxwell29552 жыл бұрын
Grow a spine and challenge them. Or dont complain
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
Challenged through their own reporting channels, no need to bother anyone. If you want to engage directly, you go for it.
@barrypickles65463 ай бұрын
To be honest these box markings are being worn away and not being repainted, i think they are not going to bother with them next time. The money they have wasted on cycle lanes/paths that are empty for 99 percent of the time.
@paganmonkey44398 ай бұрын
Probably just forgot easily done with so much crime these days lol.
@jaycearoo2 жыл бұрын
Some lovely beautiful places in Essex.. where was this?
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
Colchester.
@jaycearoo2 жыл бұрын
@@makecyclingsafeagain6575 I didn't recognize it at all, Essex is ace, I'm from Essex myself but live up in the pennines Yorkshire now...I've got family there aswell... Wishing you all a safe journey anyhow...
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
@@jaycearoo lovely part of the world where you are. Appreciate the kind wishes!
@petemawby73533 ай бұрын
The standard of police driving is pretty poor tbf he shouldn't have blocked that box, but then ive had cop cars nearly run up my backend a couple of times. They're not good
@MikeEves2 жыл бұрын
Definitely challenge these maggots who think they are above everyone else.
@kevinwilson5982 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a£100 fine for Joe bloggs
@MrClockworkbanana11 ай бұрын
I see normal car van lorry driver, etc, getting done for this sort of thing on KZfaq . Not seen a cop get done. Surprisingly 😅 🎉
@zensempai7371 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t see it - don’t be unreasonable 🤣
@kevincuthbert3058 Жыл бұрын
Try using that excuse on a yellow box junction.
@petyrkowalski9887 Жыл бұрын
I am utterly sick of cars stopping in the cycle box. It forces cyclists out in front of them or squashed up between cars… there shpuld be cameras and ANPR…fine them as they have technically jumped the red light.
@jaycearoo2 жыл бұрын
Naughty naughty naughty
@archangel6415Ай бұрын
If the police do this, then everyone can. if the police do it they will never prosecute anyone else who does.
@williamwilcock4326 Жыл бұрын
But didn’t have the balls to tell him?
@makecyclingsafeagain6575 Жыл бұрын
Because I have politely challenged this behaviour before and been met with foul-mouthed abuse and physical threats. Now, I most often let the police themselves handle it.
@utube76372 жыл бұрын
More sovereign cops
@ianevans70652 жыл бұрын
Is that it ???
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@iallso12 жыл бұрын
Personally I didn't see anything wrong with what occurred here.
@grahvis2 жыл бұрын
@@iallso1 . What you mean like not stopping at the stop line.
@iallso12 жыл бұрын
@@grahvis the lights are red, the police car stops, the cyclist has taken a position behind the car, the lights change, the car moves off, makes its left turn, the cyclist follows, no big deal.
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs2 жыл бұрын
IKR 👍
@Godzzbinzz Жыл бұрын
They can do what they want
@paulstreet1227 Жыл бұрын
Whats all the fuss about, there was plenty of room to cycle up the inside and jump the red light.
@user-kx7tl5qi2u Жыл бұрын
Just someone who loves to cause issues for themselves. I guarantee this cyclist is the type to drive into danger and then complain.
@Bewar3them00n2 жыл бұрын
I would of cycled right in front of them
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
You're a braver man than I.
@jamesfoo89992 жыл бұрын
I wish this was only the simple sort of pointless, irrelevant shit I had to worry about in life. Jees
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
Pointless and irrelevant enough for you to watch and then take the time write a comment about. Well done.
@yorkshirebikerbitsnbobs2 жыл бұрын
@James Foo 👍
@djb40692 жыл бұрын
One rule for us and one rule for them !!!!!!!!,
@joejoejoejoejoejoe43912 жыл бұрын
He's technically gone through a red light.
@Coolcarting2 жыл бұрын
Hope he was done for driving in a bus lane too.
@fetchstixRHD2 жыл бұрын
@@scottglossop: Was going to comment this - he'd almost certainly fit under the category of a vehicle allowed to use a bus lane.
@michaelfrancis7072 Жыл бұрын
He was not in a Bus Lane, the Bus Lane starts over the junction at the bottom of the hill
@anochmor Жыл бұрын
@@michaelfrancis7072 -The bus lane is clearly from the mini roundabout to the traffic lights and has the solid wide white line between it and other lanes along its full length.
@alexandermaxwell29552 жыл бұрын
The law is not applicable to the police or so they believe!
@philtucker12243 ай бұрын
I think the bike boxes are dangerous for cyclists anyway as it can put them in a very prone position if a grumpy car driver behind them decides they are trying to be obstructive. Most cyclists I’ve ever seen either drive straight through the red lights or up onto the pavement and down again on the other side anyway! 😂🤣
@Ben-db5re2 жыл бұрын
Report it
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
Done, driver was sent on an awareness course.
@Ben-db5re2 жыл бұрын
@@makecyclingsafeagain6575 good, nice to know the police own up too
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-db5re I was a bit surprised!
@timbassett26372 жыл бұрын
The white lines are so faded on the road For once the police weren’t at fault
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
Yet, they sent their own driver on a driver improvement course.....
@fetchstixRHD2 жыл бұрын
Mind you, faded stop lines really get on my nerves, but here they're pretty visible imo. There are plenty which look like they've been erased with only the anti-slip outlines remaining (or a new stop line will be painted on without the old one being removed) yet here I would think that they're very legible?
@mikee9765 Жыл бұрын
@@makecyclingsafeagain6575 They might have TOLD you that!
@kenmerry27292 жыл бұрын
You will not make cycling safe until all cyclist read and follow the highway code
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
Change that to drivers.
@PP-cm4re Жыл бұрын
It’s idiot car drivers that make cycling unsafe. I should be able to ride my bike to work without being flattened by some self entitled pr!ck who thinks I should move out the way just because he/she is driving a car and I’m not. Swear once people get a car they think they own the road.
@sandy7m2 жыл бұрын
Poor observation. Police vehicle should have had indicators on to allow vehicles behind to take up better position ready for lights to change. Cyclist should not move to side of road at junction - should have moved back to place himself directly behind the vehicle in front in the middle of the lane after realising that cyclists' box was obstructed.
@michaelfrancis7072 Жыл бұрын
The only way the police car could go was left, ahead was a bus lane which he could only use in an emergency and showing Blue lights.
@peternewman3487Ай бұрын
Everyone makes mistakes. No harm done.
@clivemoore65102 жыл бұрын
That's rich , a cyclist whinging about a car doing something wrong , no doubt cyclist is a 100% law abiding road user 😭😭😭
@makecyclingsafeagain65752 жыл бұрын
100% law abiding whether I'm driving, on the bus, on the train, cycling, running or walking. Hope you are likewise 👍
@grahamreeve5209 Жыл бұрын
I take road craft seriously on my bike, motorcycle or car. In my car I often but not always see bad driving. I sometimes see bad cycling, and I'm often in Cambridge. On my bike, omg driving standards plummet around me.
@bestbehave3 ай бұрын
No doubt. But you’d expect the rozzers to be for sure
@davemartin63192 ай бұрын
When 93% of car drivers exceed 20mph speed limits. The highest percentage of transgression of any law in this country!!
@bestbehave2 ай бұрын
@@davemartin6319 and an extraordinarily important and equally extraordinarily trivialised safety critical law too