After a dozen plays, I can’t come to like this game. It is an example where you CAN have too much of a good thing. 4-player was brutal. 2 and 3 player ok. Solo best. But, there are so many better choices out there.

Played this on BGA and I really like the theme (it feels like an even more soup-ed up Meadow, in the sense of leaning into that eco-system building aspect): it reminded me a lot of Race for the Galaxy, on first blush, in the way the cardplay synergizes, but I also love the idea of the following mechanism (a la Fort), and the way the tableau works reminds me a lot of Verdant, also. I don't know that these are all exact comparisons, but just the impressions I get from it. It seems like a very mechanical game, overall, which makes it seem heavier at first glance than I think it really is, which I agree with you on. I thinkthe Winspan comparison is very interesting, and probably apt

Wife and I love it. Its like wingspan + furnace. Can't get enough.

I have been on a 45-60 min game kick and that feels weighty. This is perfect for me. I just have less and less time and I have a serious AP friend. I like the flexibility and it feels like Cascadia in which I always have something to do. So this has been a weighty game where I get to the table much more then Ark Nova. Ark Nova is Holiday time or the wife is out of town and I have a whole morning or evening blocked off.

@@MarcTelesha my play group generally tends to prefer a similar length, because they're mostly gateway gamers, but the 1.5-2hr games have been getting some more airtime lately. I agree, this one is pretty accessible

I agree about player interaction, my group likes games in wich you have to compete for objectives even if you're builiding your own engine (like meadow). in this game however you can still get points even if you're not the first to get to the objective. wich is a good thing for someone and a bad thing for those who like more competition. anyway, i love this game and i will buy it as soon as will be released in italy!!

@@moscerino07 thanks for reaching back and glad you agree on the player interaction side of things. Earth is definitely not a game you will interfere with other player's plans a lot, so if this is what you are searching for in a game don't go for it! I saw this morning that the Italian version of Earth is starting to get delivered to backers, so it should be out in shops in Italy by the end of April or early May :)

Mr. Tardif, thank you for this long explanatory comment. I agree with you on all counts, especially on how the card drawing was put as a way of mitigating randomness and bad draw luck. If one is not satisfied with drawn cards, one just focuses more on actions and abilities that let more cards to be drawn, seen and cycled through. I do this in Wingspan and I never have a problem of not getting great cards I want. Both games have very smart and beautiful design in place just for that, by making every card worth something, every card being usable in at least some useful way. Cause even discarding cards which are useless for primary goals, is worth some lesser points and/or gets you resources. I love Wingspan and Earth for this particular reason. Luck, based on card draws, is minimized and players have meaningful ways of mitigating any bad luck. In Wingspan I get high scores consistantly, almost every game, no matter what cards I draw. Because those cards which are bad for my tableu and goals l, I tuck under existing already built cards for points or abilities on birds or trade them in during actions and birds' abilities in order to gain more of those resources I need at that specific moment. At the same time, I even build one or two birds which let me draw or cycle through more(additional) cards, all as a secondary effect to my main action/focus. And this game, Earth, obviously provides similar options to the players as Wingspan. In this playthrough, if Monique was not satisfied with the card she was drawing, she could have just chosen to draw more cards, and compost drawn bad cards for points and other resources. I am not gonna claim I remember 100% correctly on what actions she was focusing on and which ones she was ignoring, but I think she was purposefully choosing not to discard/compost "bad" cards and replace them by drawing new ones. I definitely would have. It's not called tableau building type of game without a reason. Each payer builds their tableau in a way that they find gameplay requires them, in a way so that they can manage all the resources(cards are basically also a resource), trade one for another, based on how their card draws have been so far and what they have built up to that point. Of course players are not gonna be able to build an ideal tableau and score everything high as they would wanna score, but what would be the point and fun of the game and process of playing, if every playthrough was going equally successful in every aspect of the resource collecting and point scoring and if every playthrough finished with the ideal layout/tableau. There would be no point then, no replayability, no fun in creating the tableau. I haven't played Earth yet myself, but I recognize it's great solid design that is fun for people who like this sort of games, and it still has a broad appeal. I love Wingspan and therefore I know I will love playing this game. Thank you for designing such a great thinky smart game! ❤

Player interaction can be negative interaction (hindering an opponent) or positive interaction (helping an opponent). In the action selection phase you try to choose the action that helps you more than it helps your opponent. That's where the player interaction is. This game doesn't lack player interaction, it just doesn't have much negative player interaction.

@@mavweirdo that was one of my goal designing it indeed, instead of having actions that gives -1, 0 and 1 vp to three different players in Earth it gives 1, 2 and 3 vp to three different players. In the end the vp difference is the same, but everyone has an enjoyable experience.

Yep, Noticed the same thing.

I saw it too. I guess he can still make it work if he put the 7th herb card on his very last free spot. @1:2 So it should end up with 2:1 > 1:2 > 2:3 > 3:4 > 4:3 > 3:2 > 4:1

Came to mention the same thing.

The card doesn't say you can't count the same card twice. You just can't backtrack, or go backwards.

​@@pcarrizal6829 This interpretation would let you get infinite points.

Smart!!

There’s actually two different symbols - if it’s just a sprout, it means it has to have that number of sprouts on it; if it is surrounded by a sort of box, that means it just has to have that *capacity*. Exact same thing for sprouts. It’s not open for interpretation, it’s two different symbols :)

Great to hear Derick! Hope you have a great time playing it!! ☺️

Awesome!! Thanks for checking out the video.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Glad you enjoyed it!

yes, i thik Monique deserved 11 points for that card.Also, like someone said, i think Naveen counted a card twice for his personal ecosystem card. so maybe the outcome of the game could have been different!!! Maybe Monique could have won 😃

And sometimes I want to watch a whole play even if I have played the game 😅 just to see how other people play it.

LOL!!

Thank you kindly!

Yes it's nothing like Ark Nova. People need to stop comparing it to it. It's more like Wingspan mixed with Race for the Galaxy.

I'm hoping I love it. Waiting for my copy

@@lajeit I tested it on BGA before pre-ordering. It’s time well spent. I’ve even taught others and both of them ended up ordering as well.

Exactly! Fully agree with you. That's why I love this type of games, cause they do let you to mitigate luck and build around the randomness(which is there for replayability) and bad luck. Bad card drawing is simply not a problem in Wingspan, especially not as big of a problem as people think and say it is. And based on what I have seen, bad card drawing isn't a problem in Earth either, even though I haven't yet played it. Random and bad card draws is perfectly mitigated and balanced, by this kind of drawing, building and trading mechanics in these types of games like Wingspan and Earth.

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LOVE THAT DIAGRAM!!! Yeah I think we thought you only couldn’t go back a path that you’ve already travelled, (a line) vs the same card.

Kill ‘em Kurt!!!

Thanks Madie!!

Lots of people are super excited about the BGA implementation!

Glad to hear it!

Yeah I think we both prefer Wingspan.

Earth is sooooo much shorter. I feel like Ark Nova is tooooo long for what it is. My friend that owns it has serious AP and the game takes hours.

@@MarcTelesha I've had very different experiences with Ark Nova, I find that I am a little surprised when the end approaches there are still three or four things that I'm aiming to achieve and I just can't get them all done. The last time I played, we actually played two games back to back and, yes, that did end up taking us about 5,5 hours, it was a great time and I could easily spend my time doing that again. I'm so engaged when I'm playing that I don't notice the time flying by.

Hope you have fun!!

also love that youre both wearing plant shirts haha

Hey there! Thanks for the feedback, indeed it has many weaker point, one of them being the solitaire feel of it as they mentioned here. It is definitely not a game for people that want a lot of interaction I agree. As they say, I do agree as well it's not a game for people who don't like to focus on multiple things since it can and will be overwhelming at some points! Its a big puzzle, which will definitely be a negative to some people, that's all good, no game is for everyone. Thanks for mentioning it, I edited my comment, there are definitely many weak points in Earth and people should know them in order to decide if it's a good game for them or not, criticism is always well needed!

@@maxtardif4959 this game is amazing bro ... me and my wife llloves it ... great design ... im sure its gonna be super popular and winning the year maybe

@@arashu.gorgsson3870 so glad you enjoy it! No game is perfect and will be for every one, it's all good that people don't like it for some reason, others will do for the same specific ones. That being said, I hope as you do that it will be super popular, only time will tell, but it's sure off for a good start for now!

Yeah this would be perfect for you then!

I received mine a couple of weeks ago, and it was just fine. Hope yours is too!

Got mine this week and it was amazing quality.

Hope you like it!

Oh my goodness thank you!!

@@BeforeYouPlay you are very welcome. I started watching you with Watch it Played but I wanted to make sure I recognized your channel since I have been enjoying it as well!!! I just got this game in the Kickstarter version using some Amazon points so I got it for just a little bit more than the regular price of the standard version. I have been on the fence for a while, but your video convinced me.