EarthBound 64/MOTHER 3 N64 Definitive Iceberg Analysis

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Sorry if the editing in this wasn’t too great, I had to use iMovie to make this.
Anyways, here it is, the EarthBound 64 Iceberg Analysis Video!
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Music timestamps: (every song here is one found in MOTHER 3’s soundtrack)
0:00 - Chapter 3
0:04 - The Green Train's Fun, Too!
0:27 - Is Anyone There?
1:42 - Mind of a Thief
2:36 - A Railway in Our Village!
3:33 - Unsettling Preserve
4:14 - Unused Tazmily Village Theme [N64]
5:20 - Forest of Flames
5:58 - Somewhere, Someday
7:06 - Going Alone
7:59 - A Master, a Father, a Thief
8:34 - Unused Sad theme aka Early Love Theme
9:31 - Cumbersome Guys
10:37 - Formidable Foe
11:37 - Wasteful Anthem
12:48 - Butch and the Villagers
14:40 - Even Drier Guys
16:00 - Beyond the Sunshine Forest
16:46 - Aria of Unease
17:58 - Pink Shell
18:45 - Strong One (Masked Man)
19:39 - Absolutely Safe Capsule
20:08 - Burst-In Rock 'n' Roll
21:51 - Gentle Rain
#earthbound #mother3 #earthbound64 #iceberg

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@MishKoz 3 жыл бұрын

11:37 all this time we've never known Flint's last name, but clearly it's Stone.

@aortaplatinum 2 жыл бұрын

The "Flintstones feel" mentioned by a playtester seems to tie into the tone and art style. A lot of mid 1900s Hanna Barbara cartoons had a dirty, empty look to them because of how quickly they were rushed out. Considering that the MOTHER 3 N64 team was very inexperienced in 3D, and looking at what little public screenshots and footage there is, it seems that this is what he meant- it has a primitive look and feel due to the inexperience of the team behind it.

@wolfetteplays8894 Жыл бұрын

A lot of cartoons these days still have the same sort of aesthetic, though with uncannily clean lines

@ShyGuyXXL 5 ай бұрын

I thought they said it because you play with dinosaurs early in the game.

@anonymousanonymous5732 3 жыл бұрын

I have a strong feeling Kumatora was supposed to die like the other Magipsies in the release game, given her unused animation. Makes more sense now how Flint would be present in the final dungeon.

@maagic2031 11 ай бұрын

Could have been really cool/sad if at one point she was unknowingly Locria and not Fassad.

@Slenderquil 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad people are actually documenting things about this game. Information about it used to really be scatted all over the place

@MoonSarito 10 ай бұрын

Same.

@amdon6176 3 жыл бұрын

I want earthbound 64 soo badly. I wish there was a time machine so I could go to the past and take (steal) a copy of mother 3.

@dallai3615 3 жыл бұрын

We might get a leak, we never know

@toceeno874 3 жыл бұрын

Why steal one when you could just download a translated rom

@yavuzsahin7420 3 жыл бұрын

@@toceeno874 Dude, he is talking about the N64 version of Mother 3.

@toceeno874 3 жыл бұрын

@@yavuzsahin7420 I kno I was joking

@Josuh 3 жыл бұрын

Who says you haven't? You have leaked the build in the future, you just don't know it yet

@dinglepuss8594 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid. the mother 3 we got was still a masterpiece but man it seemed as though the n64 version was alot more ambitious in its scale what would it have been like? I find it fascinating we've never stumbled upon images of the masked man or Porky. How would things be different if this game released.

@kennedymedina4234 3 жыл бұрын

A lot as it would be a lot more darker and depressing according to Itoi

@spencerbove5437 3 жыл бұрын

If the prototype for EB64 were to finally get released, I would be so happy, there’s so many unanswered questions I have on it

@PressStartToContinueYT 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! I just did a video on Earthbound 64 and I have to say you did a great job on this! I certainly learned a lot :)

@cellophanezebra4663 3 жыл бұрын

Considering Flint was suppose to be in certain scenes i believe they were planning that you can switch party members like the Final Fantasy series

@jopeperoni 2 жыл бұрын

They were.

@KiwiEvilFruit Жыл бұрын

The thing I most want to know is what Itoi meant when he said that the original ending of Mother 3 would have been meant to "betray the player"

@tornekotaloon9732 3 жыл бұрын

It's so bizarre that Nintendo seems to have some kind of obligation to keep any info pertaining to Mother 3 64 under wraps. What's the harm in releasing some concept art at least? I feel like Nintendo has some kind of weird idea that showing any footage of a game prior to it's release would undermine the final product in some way, as there is so little development information about any of Nintendo's games that was actually released by Nintendo. What a shame, and I hope someone finds a prototype one day. I really hope a collector isn't sitting on a prototype full of EPROMs, or a N64DD disk. The lifespan of the data on those is finite, and we've seen collectors hoard prototypes thinking only about their value and giving no thought to preservation.

@Player-dw3pe Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderchamberlain9285 That's not the point...

@blazefa519 3 жыл бұрын

Really do hope the gods shine upon us and a Earthbound 64 prototype is found so we can see it in all of its glory. Awesome video, I love hearing about this game and what could have been, also I really like your pfp lol.

@Josuh 3 жыл бұрын

I assume it would be like the early screenshots of Zelda 64 which showed a town full of big houses

@AluminumFusion22 8 ай бұрын

@@JosuhI don't think so. Zelda 64's beta had Link in towns with big buildings because Nintendo was testing the limits of how far they could push the hardware. I assume MOTHER 64 would have more realistic expectations and have the buildings scale down.

@JammerRammy 3 жыл бұрын

The leak of Dinosaur Planet 64 gives me hope tha someday a Earthbound 64 rom/beta build gets leaked on the internet We can all dream, right?

@neonkenomi320 3 жыл бұрын

Till this day, I still wonder what the significance of the Crop Circle screenshot served in the plot.

@Man_Jr._Studios 3 жыл бұрын

Bro. Imagine one day we get a 3D Earthbound game with improved character models and everything.

@Mr__Jack 3 жыл бұрын

In terms of the Eagleland/New Pork City screenshots, my belief was always that rather than Leder just vaguely telling you that the people of the Nowhere Islands moved there because they couldn’t live anywhere else, you were actually at one point going to travel beyond the Nowhere Islands and see/learn in greater detail what happened to the rest of the world that caused everyone to have to move to the Nowhere Islands. That’s always been my theory though the New Pork City thing makes sense too

@ryanhernandez8324 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't Leder say the rest of the world sank tho (I might be misremembering (or that's Windwaker))

@puffleperson 2 жыл бұрын

Here's an interesting observation: Notice how the new age retro hippie is shown travelling in a pig drawn wagon in one screenshot? There's unused text in the final game about a healer living in Item guy's wagon....

@babysinclairfan 3 жыл бұрын

My theory is that the Tazmily theme was replaced by Sorrowful Tazmily/Mind of a Thief. All songs that use the Tazmily theme melody are from scenes that appeared in the eb64 trailer and screenshots like salsa's delivery service and the final battle with porky. It also appears in one of dcmc's songs, but the song is cut off in the final game. We know for a fact that dcmc was around since the beginning There may also have been a cut chapter involving flint and the boys going about their daily life in Tazmily. That would explain why the unused theme is in the jukebox.

@Matto-5000 3 жыл бұрын

12:24 That pigmask villager screenshot is very uncanny.

@indigoasis 3 жыл бұрын

New Earthbound 64 footage: "Allow me to introduce myself..."

@williammerwin1850 3 жыл бұрын

lol

@diggydang7506 3 жыл бұрын

when time travel becomes a thing, i hope somone gets a copy of Earthbound 64 and changes the future

@Josuh 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on what rules apply to the time travel, since we still aren't seeing Earthbound 64, it's almost safe to assume that the timeline remains unchanged and a new one got the game 😔

@ms046 3 жыл бұрын

This was a really good and interesting video! EarthBound 64's one of those betas that really interests me tbh, and I definitely think you did a good job explaining the iceberg

@lucacc4473 3 жыл бұрын

Girl with time machine : I am your daughter Boy with time machine: Just fucking release Earthbound 64 then release mother 4

@mataperdedores2 3 жыл бұрын

I demand to see Mother 3 Itoi's cut

@nyxologymedia4136 3 жыл бұрын

Somebody needs to leak this game next, if anybody can dig this from the grave like Forest of Illusion did with Dinosaur Planet.

@0054nee 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video! Earthbound 64 lives in my head rent free so coming to know information I didn't have idea was floating around is pretty cool (even wiki articles and looking on the web doesnt show you stuff like this), if we got a couple prototypes from SpaceWorld already I am expecting an Earthboung 64 demo to surface one day... Reading interviews you can tell a lot of work and love was put into E64 so I thank you for compiling all of this and explaining it!

@bronzepenguincp 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video. I've been a MOTHER 3 fan for over 10 years now and I am so happy new information is still coming out about the beta. I hope some day the beta will be leaked and we can experience Itoi's original vision for the game.

@QweRinatrtY 3 жыл бұрын

14:48 this sounds very similar, if not completely identical to OMORI's tag mechanic

@Josuh 3 жыл бұрын

What's omori?

@QweRinatrtY 3 жыл бұрын

@@Josuh an Earthbound inspired game released on 25 dec. 2020, which is a psychological horror game. while the game does have some pacing issues it is still a very good 20 hour experience

@rossmerchant8435 2 жыл бұрын

3:42 lol the two-headed kraken looks like Jar Jar Binks

@shadowthephoenix1 7 ай бұрын

Ever since a lot of the beta OOT assets resurfaced in 2020 or 2021 i think it was i've been really hoping something similar happens with a Mother 3 prototype, it might never happen but theres been a lot of N64 leaks fairly recently so theres always hope imo

@enricooler1433 3 жыл бұрын

great video, good music taste.

@DaEgg123 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks everyone for all the support on this video, I have another EB64 discussion video in the works. For now, here’s an invite to a new EarthBound 64 discord! discord.gg/5f6cM6j6mq

@SK-pk9zu 3 жыл бұрын

Love the video. But the music might be a little to loud

@cirrus1286 3 жыл бұрын

you really should pin this

@MoonSarito 10 ай бұрын

I still dream of the day that the Earthbound/Mother 64 beta/prototype leaks, without a doubt it will be the biggest leak in gaming history, maybe even bigger than StarFox 2 and Luigi in Super Mario 64.

@ZachHonest 2 жыл бұрын

Your content is underrated, I was going into this thinking this was going to be surface level information, and my god was I wrong. I didn't know any of this stuff. Thanks man this was a good time!

@babysinclairfan 3 жыл бұрын

Did anyone notice Scamp's ghost in the Itoi screenshots? In mother 3, scamp is a random old man who dies during the time skip and never really serves any purpose. In the Itoi screenshots, Scamp can be seen in the background of a photo with his family (He looks different, kind of like dampe from Zelda) and later as a ghost. Edit: upon closer inspection, it's not Scamp, but Wess! Would mother 3 have ghosts like in earthbound? Or did Wess die at some point?

@williammerwin1850 3 жыл бұрын

I think Mother 64 was just going to have party members turn into ghosts, especially since Wess is shown KOed in a battle with the Pork Trooper that came with the same batch of screenshots (Also, Wess was going to be a bigger party member)

@floatingbooks4058 2 жыл бұрын

12:19 "We participated in a genocide, Barney." also i love Kleen Duster

@SuperRetro64 9 ай бұрын

17:46 I feel like there’s still a prototype out there, there has to be. My guess is that maybe Itoi has it or it’s in Hal’s archives. Nintendo themselves are really good about archiving prototypes, betas, and source codes if the giga leaks was anything to go off of. I’d say our chances of seeing it depends on a potential new giga leak. If they found other lost prototypes of games we haven’t seen before, then I have no doubt in my mind that Mother 64 is in their archives.

@BenSliwa 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video - I remember being in awe when I saw the photos in my Nintendo Power magazine back in the day.

@ThunderboltYoutube 2 жыл бұрын

As a Mother 3 fan, I find the Mother 64 info very fascinating and interesting especially on how it differed from the final GBA Mother we have now. It's unfortunate that we don't have more information and footage on the game but fingers crossed we'll one day find what we're looking for

@wherearethegoodusernames 3 жыл бұрын

this was done really well!! i love learning about earthbound 64, gréât vidéo :)

@moister3727 3 ай бұрын

This game has me crazy. That french magazine stated that it would launch some day. My theory is that either it would've not been as long as the final game, or bits of the story were changed/later added on the final GBA launch. Probably the story was more lighthearted, or maybe it was just the same.

@WilfredCthulu 2 жыл бұрын

This is really cool. I appreciate having all this stuff compiled together as others said and there's a lot I've never seen. I love how an iceberg on an unreleased game can exist too lol.

@livvy94 3 жыл бұрын

Dang that was comprehensive. Thanks for making this!

@doglikedude 3 жыл бұрын

swag video bf

@sunday-vf7jc 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Great vid, I didn't know about all that was on the iceberg so this was super cool! Subbed and I hope u make more vids👍

@mammamia4596 2 жыл бұрын

Shid why this isnt popular? This is amazing Underrated

@joshwannapaas 3 жыл бұрын

wow holy shit this video has less than 1k views but this is really well made. Hope it blows up soon

@bobbillans6715 3 жыл бұрын

As sad as it is that we lost EB64, the Mother 3 we got is more than likely better than EB64 would have been.

@Sweetbutters160 3 жыл бұрын

This is actually my pretty cool! You deserve more subs! This was interesting :)👍

@AnimatedNico 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing video!

@wolfetteplays8894 2 жыл бұрын

Really thought provoking video. Really makes you wonder what would’ve happen if it had actually came out for 64DD

@Kurisu545 3 жыл бұрын

Is this really your first video? I really liked it, it's really well explained!

@retrossk 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!!

@kabukimanindahouse 2 жыл бұрын

hey, we eventually got the zelda overdump and that was already thought to not exist. so maybe someday we will have some remnants on some yet unknown dev cart

@sm_liam5279 3 жыл бұрын

amazing vid, taught me a ton!

@emo-nordegraf 2 жыл бұрын

Ive never played any mother/ earthbound games, and dont plan on doing so anytime soon, but earthbound 64 is so cool to me. I hope it does get leaked sometime, I absolutely love lost video game media/ beta content.

@Ayyem93 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine not having pirated and applied the English language patch to Mother 3 in 2021

@Epsilonsama 2 жыл бұрын

What's sad is while Mother 3 on the GBA was and still is a great game it seems that the n64 version was going to be much larger in scale. The GBA version pretty much streamlined the story and content to be better condusive to a portable gaming experience. A ton of the cuts were probably on Flint's involvement and the Ending. In the GBA version Flint for example shows up out of the blue around the end while in EB64 it would have been less jarring cause he was more involved in the story.

@RhiBread 2 жыл бұрын

the more i hear about mother 3/earthbound 64 the more i wish we actually had it in some form ;; i yearn for someone to find whatever development they had someday, but i doubt we'll ever get it :(

@numburger 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly would love to play Mother 64. I'm pretty bad at rpg's but the graphical charm is so... charming for the lack of a better word

@ProtoMan0451 2 жыл бұрын

very great and informative video but i have a suggestion. you should either raise the volume of your dialogue or lower the volume of the music, in some sections like at 12:00 the music is playing just a little too loudly over your speech and its somewhat hard to hear properly. i subscribed tho

@joshuaedwards45 2 жыл бұрын

One day I hope we see Mother 64 finally taken out of the vaults of Nintendo. That day I can die happy.

@willroges6370 2 жыл бұрын

How much of a gamer move would it be if the next restoration is Saran Valley and it’s put directly after this in the playlist

@Rackatiakka 3 жыл бұрын

Thx that was really cool

@whirl3690 Жыл бұрын

I wonder what things would have been like if Mother 3 was released for the N64 and localized as Earthbound 64, even if it was after the Gamecube came out. My sister did have an N64 in its day which has been in my house for as long as I can remember, and there are some N64 games that I have fond memories of when I was very young like Yoshi's Story and Smash Bros. Perhaps "Earthbound 64" could be one of those same games that I played, and I would have nostalgia for it, or more likely just the beginning of it since I had a track record of getting stuck in easy areas in games. On a similar note, has anyone else experienced that feeling where you had this area in a game as a kid you couldn't get past for the life of you, so it just remains unfinished for years and years, until you come back to it when you are older and better at games, and finally get to experience what came after? Finally being able to see what lay beyond that one part is so surreal, like you've just discovered one of those huge mysteries in a classic game, like what was under the ice in Zora's Domain, but on an even larger scale since there's basically a whole game ahead of it.

@MarioPfhorG 3 жыл бұрын

We eventually got StarFox 2 and Dinosaur Planet, I have hope Mother 64 and Dragon Hopper will be found eventually

@cryptidcloud 3 жыл бұрын

great video! only complaint is that you didn't read out the titles of each individual point

@Kh3micalX8 2 жыл бұрын

I've always been hoping an early build of this game will appear online someday.

@chiipan7 3 жыл бұрын

Epic swagsauce video.

@SwaggyG_2102 3 жыл бұрын

Great analysis and ice cube! I just know that Mother 64 will get leaked! Eventually soon... Hopefully.

@cathyas3749 2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure somewhere on starman.net an interview with someone said gba mother 3 is. Like just mother 3 plotwise. Not much was changed.

@DaEgg123 2 жыл бұрын

That’s not necessarily true, I think what that interview meant was that while yes the general outline was the same (Flint loses his wife to the Mecha Drago, he seeks revenge, Duster goes to Osohe to get the egg, comes back with Wess & finds Kumatora, Salsa gets kidnapped by the Pigmasks & Fassad forces him to deliver the boxes, Lucas goes to find Duster in Titiboo, Lucas & party go to the Thunder Tower in disguise, The Needle Hunt, Final confrontation in New Pork) a lot of the finer details and other pieces of polish weren’t present or were changed in the gba version. I think stuff like the timeskip being longer originally is good evidence of this

@Menfiz 3 жыл бұрын

underrated video

@enricooler1433 3 жыл бұрын

fairies is most likely a final version of the tazmily village theme. it fits gba mother 3 a bit more

@doglikedude 3 жыл бұрын

i told him that but he forgot to add that in the video

@enricooler1433 3 жыл бұрын

@@doglikedude ah i see

@Zeroantagonist88 3 жыл бұрын

great vid! make more vids! jus subbed to you!

@AlphaDog26 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. Although, the mixing of the audio could have been better. Sometimes, the music was louder than your voice.

@DaEgg123 3 жыл бұрын

That’s definitely something I noticed not long after I uploaded this, rest assured my future content won’t have this issue :P

@KnottsBear-yTalesPreserved Жыл бұрын

I hope one day we see a prototype of this game. I really want to see what this version of Mother 3 was like before it kicked the bucket...

@ivythay4259 2 жыл бұрын

There are so many betas and unreleased games that really need to get leaked to the public someday. Mother 3 64 and Kirby GCN come to mind first, but I'm probably forgetting many more, important ones.

@figgywoofy1724 3 жыл бұрын

Bald flint looks like duster. Dang ive been playing this game for 8 years, and I still don't think I completely grasp the whole thing.

@aseluxna3677 2 жыл бұрын

I love mother 3 GBA, But damn i wish we could've gotten N64 ver..

@spongegar 3 жыл бұрын

Crazy how Mother 3 is one of the best games ever made and the US release is a fan-translated romhack of an N64 game that was scrapped and downgraded into a GBA game

@tobbyhappy3572 2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@ironwelder-fz2xk 2 жыл бұрын

I think fuels mom would have sacrificed herself for a fuel with the two-headed kraken

@alexanderchamberlain9285 8 ай бұрын

Fuels mother tobacco went missing before the events of EB64

@fanficsj.a.r.uelsalvador9427 10 ай бұрын

saludos desde el salvador y me encantan tus iceberg y me gustaria hacer tu iceberg pero en español ya que acá lo tines en ingles

@yoshikoopa9545 2 жыл бұрын

21:42 This is weird, but it looks like salsa on to robot legs

@ciaragarrity6425 Жыл бұрын

One of the enemies in the old game looks like a creeper from the Minecraft game. It also looks like a slime blob.

@hydrocityharry977 2 жыл бұрын

What is the song used for tier 2, I mean I know it, but I can't find it anywhere on the ost

@nonplayablecharacter. 9 ай бұрын

If you slide the red bar, the chapters say

@Rackatiakka 3 жыл бұрын

Is there any battle footage??

@cartoongodelitedevy4051 11 ай бұрын

I saw on the Cutting Room Floor that apparently, Porky's Spider Mech was in the N64 version. Do we have any evidence of that? I know Porky was in the N64 version, due to the fact that Itoi said that he heavily relied on Porky once.

@DaEgg123 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, in a 2011 interview with the EB64’s enemy designer, he said “Since Pokey was to appear in the 64 version, too, I designed Pokey, his team, and the place he lived in. The spider mech was in the 64 version, too, but since I haven’t played the GBA version, I’m not sure if the design was the same in the end.” Beyond that, it’d make sense for the Spider Mech to have been in EB64, since it was something established back in Mother 2.

@cartoongodelitedevy4051 11 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, I remember reading that interview. And the point of it being established in Earthbound, I mean yeah, but the Mother 3 Spider Mech looks vastly different, looking more like a hospital bed/coffin compared to the wrinkly seat on legs in EB. Though, I guess Porky could've tricked Dr. Andonuts to upgrade it, I mean, Porky basically did the same to get the Absolutely Safe Capsule... which kinda feels like the Phantom Zone from Superman now that I think about it.

@user-ff6eg3jy4k Жыл бұрын

Why does the characters looks like cursed parodies? Ok, i would have the same reflection if i was fighting any 15 seconds.

@mutaku6413 3 жыл бұрын

I still would have preferred the N64 over the GBA version. The N64 has an charming aesthetic look. I don't know if the composed sounds for the EB64 were reused for the GBA version but it clearly was a masterpiece.

@GabiShy 3 жыл бұрын

Since when did you make a channel?

@floofiekun1875 3 жыл бұрын

Mother 3 really went through a lot until it became the game we have now.

@ZappyWappy 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but where’s mr gene- good video

@nathanielzuranski 2 жыл бұрын

Every single character model is extremely uncanny.

@spmscout Жыл бұрын

I have my own theory on the whole "English localization quietly cancelled" theory, rather i think Nintendo of America were going to temporarily shelve the English release of Earthbound 64 until a definitive announcement of the game's completion was given to them (though we all know what happened to the game in the end)