Thought the exact same thing lol

SCV and others have said it's a horrible waste of money.

What collectibles tax?

​@@bobcanbeatyou You have a way to learn, fella.

If the "experts" at PSA can't catch it, then they deserve to come down.

​@@vintagecollector5340 They can't, and they will. This house of cards is due for a major collapse

Imagine if Kurts juice causes oxidization corrosion starting at the 5 year mark. All cards that use it may be destroyed and forever lost. Oh well.

There's also an up charge for going to a nice steak restaurant

The trouble is... BGS arguably grades the harshest , yet the hobby values them the least. Ironically they value PSA the most, and they with SGC are the most lenient.

@@user-zl5fm4ro4p i can’t stand statements like this. Each company has things they grade slightly different. SGC is super tough on centering. PSA is pretty tough on surface. BGS tends to grade thick cards more leniently than PSA or SGC I never said BGS didn’t grade the cards accurately. You would be surprised how many people submit cards without cleaning them properly. Had a Lawlar 1st BC that BGS gave a 7.5 for surface. All of the gunk easily wiped off once I cracked it out then the card looked perfect.

@@ryanra44 Don't disagree each has their own area they are stricter on; but overall; from thousands of slabs i've seen ; typically BGS is the harshest/most accurate. You dont have to like it or even agree. I'm not a fan of taking accurately graded cards; and now slapping a 10 on them; to sell for more. It is what it is. I highly doubt people 99% of people didn't wipe down their BGS cards before submitting. Over time; in an inner sleeve; they need to be wiped if cracked out. It's not magic. More often than not; those cards were accurately graded as 9 and shouldn't be a 10. Yes, their are cases where PSA/BGS/SGC get it wrong; or a finger print or gunk. Those make sense to regrade.

@@user-zl5fm4ro4p please continue to tell me that my cards didn’t deserve a 10. Matter fact. I took a BGS 9, sent it back to them and got a 10 on it. I guess they aren’t consistent 🤷‍♂️

On modern I would agree but anything pre 1980s the chances of new PSA 9s and 10s hitting the pop reports goes way down.

@@BPal75 True, but I don't think you fully understand what I'm saying. You're basing scarcity of a card from a numerical grading scale created specifically for artificial scarcity. The population report helps add to that artificial scarcity by giving you a false sense that your card is extremely rare if you have a mint or gem grade. Ironically, condition is everything, because most cards are not rare outside of condition. Even pre-1980s, this stuff was produced fairly heavy. You simply cannot go off a grading scale for true population of a sports card. Only card manufacturers know more accurate print runs, and I can guarantee there was no shortage of vintage cards neither. To prove the scale is faulty, look at the grades some cards get: sometimes, you'll notice lesser grades having much lower population numbers than some higher grades, but yet, it doesn't affect value. That's because the grading scale is faulty and makes no sense. It's been a big scam since it's invention from Alan Hager.

@@vintagecollector5340thanks for your thoughtful reply. I agree with you but I look at card condition as a “parallel” since it has value to collectors. If you take a 1952 Topps card for example yes the actual print run may be large and unknown but if there are only 25 PSA graded 10s, the likelihood of more showing up is small at this point (although possible). To me then that card graded as a 10 is as rare as a raw modern chrome parallel numbered to 25. Perhaps I am in the minority in that thinking, but that’s how I look at it.

@@BPal75 I'm actually in the minority of my thinking, because people don't get what I say. You have to remember the discrepancies with grading: alot of PSA 8 and PSA 9 cards look like gem cards today. You just said yourself that the true population is large and unknown. Therefore, you just admitted yourself that not even PSA can tell you how many truly exists. It's artificial scarcity. There's alot of this stuff in the wild that's still ungraded. I get it, though...I use to chase those better grades, because I thought they were truly rare. I chased grades for years, until I stumbled upon photographs, which definitely has true scarcity. Compare a 1952 Mantle pop report to my 1950s photograph portrait of Mantle. I can promise you'll likely never find another photo like mine,, but you'll find his 1952 Topps all day. To be fair, population of original photos are also unknown, but they're undoubtedly very rare. Many I've bought, I've never seen again for years...and maybe never again. That, my friend, is true scarcity.

@@BPal75 Then compare price points...would you rather have a 1952 Topps Mantle for five figures or a rare and original photo for just a hundred? That's what I paid on mine. I'll admit...I probably got lucky, but photos are often a fraction of the cost of cards right now. I don't suspect that to last forever.

This is such BS. I never understood why people say this. I’ve graded hundreds and hundreds of cards and I am rarely surprised by a grade. If you card is gem mint, it will come back a 10 almost every time

@@ryanra44 LMAO, that's hilarious.

@@ryanra44 Ive seen plenty of people crack good 9s and they come back 10s. Its completely mood dependent.

@@paochicken how can you account that to mood and not just human error or inconsistency? You people act like the same guy is grading your cards each time. Do I think Jim’s wife yelled at him before work so now he is going to grade tougher today? Literally one of the dumbest things I have seen spewed in the hobby

@@ryanra44 human error..Inconsistency? What you are implying is that there is literally very little standard or no standard at all when grading cards. Hence, the mood of the grader. Thanks for proving my point. 😂😂😂

Furthermore, if any of these fools complaining possessed the ability to see their conplaint about a minimal tax for something that BENEFITS them... PAILS in comparison to the 10-100X they're sending away in taxes for little benefit of their own, then I might find it easier that their rationale is level-headed.

Correct. Way easier and safer to just use a handsaw to cut the corners off then pry open with a screwdriver.

big dewalt chop saw with a finish carpentry, small tooth blade. clamp it down and rip it. 4 at a time!!

It's just an "opinion" you're paying for. Use your own eyes. You should know what you like. What are you willing to pay for it. This whole process is laughable nowadays. Just keep paying PSA

the more people, the more competition, the more liquidity= smaller spreads and stable prices. even the flippers serve a purpose

More people doesn’t equal more competition, without demand though. The hobby is all demand/hype. That’s why base PSA 9 is nearly worthless.

I tried using his wax and it leaves streaky layer that's hard to get off..

WITH NO RESPONSE THATS FINE ILL JUST KEEP THE 1989 TIFFANY BRAVES PITCHER ROOKIES... CUZ THE SURPRISE HAS NOW BEEN RUINED ANYWAYS... THE WHOLE THING ME TRYING TO BE NICE.. HAS GOTTEN ME NO WHERE.... OVER THE LAST YEAR .... CANT EVEN GIVE THE $HIT AWAY HOW DOES IT HAVE ANY VALUE 😢😂😢😂😅

Why are you even trying to give a random stranger a card? Thats just weird man. 😂

@paochicken Because they are in the Atlanta Area... and they are kinda Rare... and u just thought it was a Nice Gesture...