EAST CLEVELAND: I Toured The USA's Poorest Suburb

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Joe & Nic's Road Trip

Joe & Nic's Road Trip

10 ай бұрын

I visited East Cleveland, Ohio, the poorest suburb in the United States.
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@matthewmckee9914
@matthewmckee9914 9 ай бұрын
I think it's disgusting how our government can give billions of dollars away to other countries but can't spend a dime on tearing down condemned houses and building new homes for the people.
@agentcooper6179
@agentcooper6179 9 ай бұрын
That would be called socialism.
@777jones
@777jones 9 ай бұрын
Government spending is what caused the problem you see on the screen. Originally, that beautiful city was built without ANY government funding. By strong, married couples. Think about that. Regards.
@agentcooper6179
@agentcooper6179 9 ай бұрын
@@777jones It was built by multi billionaires in the late 19th century.
@agentcooper6179
@agentcooper6179 9 ай бұрын
@@777jones Specifically by the Van Sweringen brothers. Whom never married… and slept in the same bedroom.
@kyoakland
@kyoakland 9 ай бұрын
​@@agentcooper6179that would be called the military-industrial complex and capitalism. If socialism existed in this country you wouldn't have places that look like this because all the tax players around the country with lift places like this up and keep the jobs here instead of Outsourcing them overseas
@RJC-_
@RJC-_ 10 ай бұрын
With each video I watch, I'm continually shocked and amazed at the astronomical decay of cities across the USA, its just unbelievable !
@ArmyVetTrumpGrl
@ArmyVetTrumpGrl 10 ай бұрын
All by design.
@RJC-_
@RJC-_ 10 ай бұрын
@@ArmyVetTrumpGrl I agree…and all because of the corrupted criminal Democrats .
@bonzie321
@bonzie321 10 ай бұрын
Certain people destroy everything where ever they are.
@DoStuff1958
@DoStuff1958 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes this is what happens when a large portion of the population is uneducated, have no work ethic, and no moral compass.
@stewartcarroll304
@stewartcarroll304 10 ай бұрын
Thatcher tried to put some northern cities in Britain into "managed decline" in the 80's😠
@reallifehomerevealed1957
@reallifehomerevealed1957 9 ай бұрын
*I remember visiting my grandma here as a kid and It was actually our getaway. The area was always nice and clean and everyone knew each other. She grew fruits and vegetables in her back yard. It started going down real bad real fast I would say mid 80s. I lived in EC in the early 90s and the amount of crime was outrageous. We drove by there years ago and I couldn't believe it was the same place. There was a feeling of despair and hopelessness. I damn near cried. I'm grateful I made it through. Thx for showing this.*
@_A_343
@_A_343 9 ай бұрын
There's always one
@heathgerber800
@heathgerber800 6 ай бұрын
Better days
@Umberto2
@Umberto2 4 ай бұрын
I grew up in Cleveland Heights and Shaker Heights, right next to East Cleveland. My parents and their generation of Baby Boomers all had stories about when EC was such a nice place. I played against teams from EC in the 90s and it had fallen hard then, but people were still making it work. Now they are just gone. The population dropped from 30K in the 90s to just 12K now.
@RadioPsychicAstrologyByPepper
@RadioPsychicAstrologyByPepper 2 ай бұрын
@@Umberto2wow!
@hardwired4548
@hardwired4548 17 күн бұрын
Sadly, it's what happens to a place where there is just too much crime, corruption, drugs and violence. The area is just not worth investing in.
@chunter123
@chunter123 10 ай бұрын
Those crime stats are WAY off because so many who are victims in E Cleveland simply don't report them for they know nothing will be done about it.
@joycelebaron2582
@joycelebaron2582 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think Joe mentioned that. That and the 'no snitch' ethos.
@johndouglas5712
@johndouglas5712 9 ай бұрын
Oh something gets done . Believe that . They just keep it among themselves
@midway27272727
@midway27272727 10 ай бұрын
The local Politicians with the help of many in the local community have worked very very hard to ruin this once great city. What's incredible is this is being played out in countless cities in the US.
@cteez9191
@cteez9191 10 ай бұрын
Democrat run since 1989.... You get what you vote for. Look at Detroit... Same thing. Democrat run since about 50 years.
@joefell7845
@joefell7845 9 ай бұрын
This is the progress that the progressive left promised.
@fredgardner2870
@fredgardner2870 9 ай бұрын
100% correct
@llg3pe
@llg3pe 9 ай бұрын
I’m sure they were all Democrats
@leandrow216
@leandrow216 9 ай бұрын
Very accurate.
@elmoelbow
@elmoelbow 10 ай бұрын
My first apartment ever, was an East Cleveland back in 1971. I even remember visiting friends in the high-rise you featured. I also remember how the windows slid open without any covering for safety and a small child fell from a high floor back in 1990. I am in absolute shock and saddened that a community, once so vibrant, has fallen to that level of decay and abandonment.
@rickreese5794
@rickreese5794 10 ай бұрын
DC been workin hard To destroy mercia 💯😩🤷🏿‍♂️🤡🌎🌈🦄
@RandyFelts2121
@RandyFelts2121 10 ай бұрын
!971 the year the FED took us off the gold standard. The beginning of the planned destruction of America by NGO's. My opinion.
@milescivis1018
@milescivis1018 10 ай бұрын
So vibrant…
@realmswrld_216
@realmswrld_216 9 ай бұрын
@@milescivis1018tbh I was born and raised Cleveland and your right the city has always been bland to me
@truck_yeah_440
@truck_yeah_440 9 ай бұрын
East Cleveland was like this even back in 1990. I know I'm born and raised on the east side and live downtown now. Been a Cleveland resident my whole life. You have to go all the way back to probably the 1950s when East Cleveland was last a decent community.
@user-su7np2wj3y
@user-su7np2wj3y 9 ай бұрын
I was raised in East Cleveland from the 60's to Mid 80's. I was a booming beautiful city. Most people own their homes back then, but the crack epidemic in the 90's started the downfall. Not to mention crooked politicians stealing money from the citizens. Then people like myself left for college, military service and other reasons. The original population got older and most of their children never returned. Then transit people started moving into the area. Its sad to see my old hometown decay in such a way. I pray they one day will become a great city again.
@davidcarpenter416
@davidcarpenter416 9 ай бұрын
So no body's theere actual fault? It's the govt and drugs, to you? Not the people there who destroyed it.....
@user-wy1dl2me2p
@user-wy1dl2me2p 9 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss , you must have fond memories as a child hold on to them .
@willbygosh4887
@willbygosh4887 8 ай бұрын
Everything goes in cycles but how low will it go before East Cleveland rises,thats the million dollar question!
@user-dp4ne1it6f
@user-dp4ne1it6f 8 ай бұрын
I grew up in East Cleveland and the east side of Cleveland. It was white flight that was the main culprit. I grew up in glenville which was one of the area where the riots happened in Cleveland the other being hough. I was born in 1990 and moved in 2003! I remember hearing so much growing up. The crack epidemic was the one that broke the camel's back. White flight was the first domino effect
@rlmpproductions
@rlmpproductions 8 ай бұрын
The crack era leveled certain parts of America in a small amount of time
@worninshoes
@worninshoes 10 ай бұрын
I haven't seen Euclid Ave. in sixty years. What a travesty! Only three miles away are a couple of the finest museums in the country. Today's tour is just a half-hour bus ride away from where I spent boyhood. It might as well be a planet beyond Pluto. How fortunate are the officials that can pull down six-figure compensation to manage such a failure. Thanks for taking us along for the ride, Joe.
@TinkerTailor4303
@TinkerTailor4303 10 ай бұрын
Fortunate is not a word I would use for them. Immoral, corrupt, heinous, yes. There is a special rung in Hell for them.
@kevinc8955
@kevinc8955 10 ай бұрын
What would your solution be? Specifically what style of government works for these people? Because I have never seen one.
@brianmiller5444
@brianmiller5444 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinc8955government by youtube comment section, of course. So easy to assume everyone is “incompetent”, “immoral” etc. In the 1970s, the owners of this country decided it would be more profitable (short term) to deindustrialize, and places like East Cleveland are the remnants. There used to be thousands of jobs in GE and other companies. All gone
@thecoasterbear
@thecoasterbear 10 ай бұрын
Maybe legalizing all drugs. This ends the problem of drugs being laced with deadly mixtures of unwanted narcotics. The tax revenue from the drugs, coupled with the billions of dollars we will save by ending the war on drugs, can be used to build treatment centers, drug education, and programs for the local communities. Including homeless programs, programs for single mothers, and job training........or just keep doing what is clearly working so well for us.
@brianmiller5444
@brianmiller5444 10 ай бұрын
@@thecoasterbear or…as is happening in California, the legal drugs are just another major revenue stream for the cartels as they steadily take over the legal trade. What I don’t understand about the legalize everything argument is we don’t typically allow people to see poisonous pharmaceuticals. legal fentanyl seems questionable to me
@JustMeNoOther
@JustMeNoOther 10 ай бұрын
More and more cities start to look like a movie set for Escape From New York
@riandraegon556
@riandraegon556 10 ай бұрын
Yeah! Where is Snake when you need him?!
@kingdoughnut7244
@kingdoughnut7244 10 ай бұрын
That movie was filmed in St. Louis!
@frankp7411
@frankp7411 10 ай бұрын
And nobody can say why it happened, I mean we all know, but we can’t say why
@user-bw2zt5jd9u
@user-bw2zt5jd9u 9 ай бұрын
@@frankp7411Sure. For anyone to “ flee” ( as it’s so difficult and stressful to move) there has to be a good reason.
@marial8235
@marial8235 10 ай бұрын
You can see some people are really trying to keep their homes in nice condition. 😢
@midori6756
@midori6756 9 ай бұрын
“Poverty breeds poverty”
@superdadAlls
@superdadAlls 9 ай бұрын
A home is a home no matter where it is. Some still understand this.
@Umberto2
@Umberto2 4 ай бұрын
There are so many once beautiful homes in EC
@wanderlore8875
@wanderlore8875 8 ай бұрын
Joe, my husband had open heart surgery in June 2023. At Cleveland Clinic main campus. ICU 35 days, total time there 55 days. We live over in Hillsdale county MI. I slept in my jeep in the parking garage. There is no housing unless your there for a transplant or cancer care. Everywhere is a money trap. I went around a decent bit. Doing laundry, shopping and car repairs. I have to say the Black Community was the nicest friendliest folks to this old 60 yr old white grandma. I regularly went down to poorer sections to do laundry and shop at dollar store. Never had a problem at all. Did treat my hubby to take out a few times when he was better.."Juicy Seafood"..best food, best price. Many like me sleeping in hospital parking due to high prices of hotels. Son and his wife came to visit twice there. We drove downtown. It was beautiful and so quiet during the day.
@Jamesthomas12187
@Jamesthomas12187 13 күн бұрын
Thank goodness you went to the clinic and didn't have any surgery locally.
@Jamesthomas12187
@Jamesthomas12187 13 күн бұрын
Hillsdale county is the most insular, stuck on itself, in breed nonsense. Worst collection of people I've ever been around, you could go about anywhere and you'll find better folks.
@hizway4ne
@hizway4ne 9 ай бұрын
The workmanship in those old homes is something that can’t be replicated. I wish more of them could be saved and renovated.
@ilikecinema1234
@ilikecinema1234 8 ай бұрын
Those houses are all over Ohio, many are even in Akron. All gone and deteriorated. America is dead , like Russia and China
@user-om8ze1dz3m
@user-om8ze1dz3m 10 ай бұрын
My family moved to EC in 1967 and I grew up there and graduated from Shaw High School in 1985. We had football games at night, girls walked around at night after those games, our HS band was 2nd in the state in 1982, our Lady Birds competed in the state basketball championship in 1982, Darryl Talley went on to play for the Buffalo Bills, and there were plenty of family-owned businesses even after white flight. We had 5 Elementary Schools, one huge junior high school and one high school I mentioned. My elementary school was rebuilt twice and my son attended the same elementary as I did. We had gifted education and other career programs, Police Athletic League summer baseball, and The Chiefs summer football league The drug era ruined our city and, as was stated the corruption of city officials. The “beautiful” homes near the end are located near Forest Hill Park where we STILL celebrate our annual All Class Reunion picnics EVERY Labor Day weekend. I love and miss EC. The former citizenry needs to reinvest in the place that made us who we turned out to be, and that includes me!
@cle-chi
@cle-chi 10 ай бұрын
hi nice post . Came out of Shaw 1990. Lived behind windermere station on Doan /Hayden in apartments with dad. Left ohio for good sept. 1992 for chicago to live with mom . I remember buyin records from Dolls Rapid Creation on euclid & paulettes on Chapman/euclid. Wow . East Cleveland fest too.
@robinwashington9606
@robinwashington9606 9 ай бұрын
Hi we have to know each other. I grew up on Page/Wymore. Class of 90 Shaw High Cardinal❤. Its sad to see our city like this.
@bbills4186
@bbills4186 9 ай бұрын
Rozelle, Kirk, and Shaw High Class 1987. Loved EC then and love it now. It's a shame, EC was the home of Rockefeller, and now it's awful. When I left for college in 1987, it was good but it gradually went downhill in the 90s and then a certain 80's president allowed crack cocaine to move into our cities (that's facts so go fight your momma on this). The shame of it all is EC has some amazing housing stock.
@MrCREWCRUSHIN95
@MrCREWCRUSHIN95 8 ай бұрын
Cleveland didn't have "white flight". Cleveland was WAY ahead of the rest of the country on integration.
@Bzy2037
@Bzy2037 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I came here to say that the "nice area" was Forest Hills but you already did. 😉 Shaw HS alum class of 01!
@lorirogers9304
@lorirogers9304 10 ай бұрын
My daughter graduated from Case Western. East Cleveland’s poverty and lack of resources is very real.
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 10 ай бұрын
I can’t believe he made it out alive
@anthonyagudo208
@anthonyagudo208 10 ай бұрын
​@@TOCC50😅
@nathanaelmorris8859
@nathanaelmorris8859 10 ай бұрын
Atlas has shrugged
@Leroy-wm4ib
@Leroy-wm4ib 10 ай бұрын
@@TOCC50 How so? Is it really that bad. We rarely hear anything bad coming out of this area.
@777jones
@777jones 9 ай бұрын
Sorry but I have to correct this. Cleveland was awash in resources. What happened was it was taken over by a corrupt, anti-social ideology of dependence. Bad politics.
@marcomcdowell8861
@marcomcdowell8861 10 ай бұрын
It looked that way when I was a little kid in the 80s. There were beautiful homes on one block, then the next was wretched. My grandparent's family home was massive, well kept and a hub of activity. The house immediately to rear was decrepit and full of weeds. It truly did depend on whether your family was employed or not.
@millertoyal
@millertoyal 9 ай бұрын
Why were the homes built so massively? I didn't see a small, single family home amongst them. These look like homes to house a few generations of one family.
@LJones69
@LJones69 10 ай бұрын
This was like a look into the past and how nice this part of Cleveland use to be. It’s a real shame that the city itself is in such a bad financial situation that even they can’t do anything about it. Especially to help out the kids .
@joycelebaron2582
@joycelebaron2582 10 ай бұрын
Joe told a story about how the City of Cleveland wanted to annex EC but the corrupt politicians (city council members, I think) in EC insisted on keeping their $100k+ salaries so Cleveland nixed the deal.
@clearlynotwoke4929
@clearlynotwoke4929 10 ай бұрын
People need to pay taxes to the city or theirs no money to help the poor.
@hunglikehorse4339
@hunglikehorse4339 10 ай бұрын
@@clearlynotwoke4929 Most poor can help themselves. Stop being so naive.
@DonariaRegia
@DonariaRegia 10 ай бұрын
You can tell that living in those neighborhoods used to be a brag, now it's a badge of courage. Single moms keeping the business sector afloat. Bless their hearts.
@Brodie--lw6eb
@Brodie--lw6eb 10 ай бұрын
It’s not part of Cleveland, it’s an entirely different city.
@StabStabStabStabby
@StabStabStabStabby 10 ай бұрын
The abandoned houses are incredible. You can really see the previous wealth that was there. A lot of those houses would be a million pound in the UK.
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@SaritaLovesLiving
@SaritaLovesLiving 9 ай бұрын
You were brave and bold to drive through there. I'm from Greater Cleveland so I know how bad it is in East Cleveland.
@Umberto2
@Umberto2 4 ай бұрын
There’s not much random crime for driving through. Nobody lives there anymore
@siliconinsect
@siliconinsect 10 ай бұрын
I used to live in East Cleveland. City is so corrupt no developer wants to touch it. Bought a cheap house three blocks away in City of Cleveland (proper) and it's not so bad. Fresh pavement, decent schools, and reliable services. I've explored many of those brownstone apartments and phone books would indicate they were abandoned in the late 90's. Great vid as usual!
@di5gustipated
@di5gustipated 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping nearby, just watched the Gary video and heard you mention my area next so I stuck around. I'm in Cleveland Heights. That building at the beginning I wouldnt say is a "crime hive", and the "road " you went down in front of it has been closed for a while, there has been a large water problem there which keeps tearing it up. There is a really nice park, Forest Hills Park, that is up behind that broken down apartment. There hass been some interesting stuff about it in the news lately because the Cleveland Metroparks were going to take over maintenance and its split between Cle Heights and East Cle, the East Cle side is in limbo at the moment due to some shenanigans. I go on walks and runs through that park on my lunch hour almost every day. The Cle Heights side has the location of the Rockefeller family home. The whole park was donated to the city by the Rockerfellers as long as it remained a public park area. The nicer area you went through towards the end is the Forest Hills District, they've done a good job of keeping their area nice. The Lakeview Cemetery would have been a nice cruise through as well, its a huge cemetery right nearby with lots of well known people buried there like Rockefeller, President Garfield, Elliot Ness and tons more, great place to go running as well. Many fantastic grave stones to view, and part of one of the Avengers films was filmed at the dam in the center of the cemetery.
@losgryfog
@losgryfog 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you left this comment. Part of the problem I have with this type of content is that so much of the location gets sensationalized. Like you mentioned, that building isn't a "crime hive", it's literally just an abandoned building that the city won't tear down. The vast majority of the abandoned buildings in EC, aren't owned or were never owned by people from East Cleveland, many don't even live in Ohio.
@catlover614
@catlover614 10 ай бұрын
A very interesting and enlightening video. You can really see how lovely these neighbourhoods would have been in the past, some beautiful and unique architecture there. Thanks so much for showing us around, Joe, it's very much appreciated.💚
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, CL!!
@deeneedler327
@deeneedler327 10 ай бұрын
I love watching your Chanel. I have learned things I didn't know. Never would have believed things in the US were so bad. I'm 75 . Just am amazed at the trash, poverty & homeless. I'm so blessed to live where I do. Keep up the good work & please stay safe!
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@arniegreenberg2719
@arniegreenberg2719 10 ай бұрын
East Cleveland...you have a lot of courage going there.
@slackjawedyokel1
@slackjawedyokel1 10 ай бұрын
Imagine back in the 40s moving into a brand new house with the new house (pain) smell still fresh -- it would be beyond belief if you were told that 75 years later the whole neighborhood would be a crumbling slum. shocking
@CaptDust
@CaptDust 9 ай бұрын
This is only the first video I've seen on this channel, but had to comment and give mad props for cruising through EC like this. I know locals that will straight up turn around if they reach that train bridge near Superior (Cle Heights/EC border) and double back on another route rather than risk losing their wallet, car or life at a red light... Massively sad state of affairs.
@stevetessier8532
@stevetessier8532 10 ай бұрын
My best friends wife graduated from Case Western. The blight in East Cleveland is scary..Keep up the good work...Please stay safe Joe, and Nicole..!!
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 10 ай бұрын
The suitcase probably has a dead body in it
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@RobertKross-tw4si
@RobertKross-tw4si 10 ай бұрын
Been watching your videos for about 6 months. You bring notice to the plight of small town USA. Some of the towns you drive through would scare the hell out of me. This town was once very nice. Love your videos, keep them coming!
@amrak5028
@amrak5028 8 ай бұрын
Cleveland East & East Cleveland are very scary places. Not necessary to say even Worse at night. My last East Side friend was at 1268 E145th and Woodward until 2 years ago. Google map for a look see. He lived in the second floor unit. He did Tats up there to make a living. He is now in rural Alabama. The east side is a Terrifying place after dark.
@Wall2000x
@Wall2000x 10 ай бұрын
The City of East Cleveland's proposed budget for fiscal year 2023 is $36 million. The largest portion of the budget, about $17 million, is for the general fund, which supports the city's core services such as police, fire, and public works. Other major spending areas include the community development fund ($5 million), the parks and recreation fund ($4 million), and the library fund ($2 million). High debt: The city has a debt of over $20 million, which is a major financial burden.
@cecoya
@cecoya 10 ай бұрын
WOW!!! Not sure what to say about all this. I was raised in upper Ohio and have not been back since I was about 6. This is nuts to see what this looks like now. I can't believe the city officials think it is okay to take that much pay while their city is falling down around them. That is not okay, they need to get a grip on reality. Thanks for sharing and you watch out for the "presents" at the bottom of the pot holes, no flat tires. Safe travels
@rickreese5794
@rickreese5794 10 ай бұрын
Works for DC 💯😩🥵
@katslat8410
@katslat8410 7 ай бұрын
I'm in Cleveland and MANY years ago YOU WANTED East Cleveland and that would be about over 45 years ago. Across the street from the Huron Apartments at the very beginning of the video was Huron Road Hospital and it's gone now. 3 minutes into the video you pulled up into a corner store and that street that is blocked off with the apartment building, well those building were BEAUTIFUL back int he day. I mean GORGEOUS!! It's very sad to see it now.
@search4truth104
@search4truth104 10 ай бұрын
Those were some of the most incredible abandoned houses ever. Sad they will probably never be restored.
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 10 ай бұрын
We should’ve never shipped them over to our country
@rhoynedev
@rhoynedev 10 ай бұрын
@@TOCC50 who's 'them'? Are you indigenous?
@rndmprsn3532
@rndmprsn3532 10 ай бұрын
​@@rhoynedevthe trouble makers and 'victims' that celebrate the worst of their culture and only hold themselves down
@pinkskincanthandlethesunlight
@pinkskincanthandlethesunlight 10 ай бұрын
@@TOCC50 LOL what's your country besides Europe?
@seagoddess524
@seagoddess524 10 ай бұрын
@@TOCC50 The slave narrative is a lie and told in reverse. It was more export than import because the aboriginal indigenous people were already here. It's you that needs to go.
@russellroberson7355
@russellroberson7355 10 ай бұрын
I lived in Cleveland from 1958 to 1974 was such a good place to live them days. Went back to visit old friend 3 years ago. Will never go back. Poor Cleveland
@Umberto2
@Umberto2 4 ай бұрын
This is East Cleveland tho
@Ranthra1
@Ranthra1 8 ай бұрын
Used to live in Euclid, Ohio which is just east of East Cleveland. That was 20 years ago and we didn't venture into East Cleveland if we didn't have to. Never at night. If you go there, go armed. Just a warning.
@cle-chi
@cle-chi 8 ай бұрын
we lived in euclid from 1980 to 85. was lovely back then. Forest park jr high was my favorite
@nicolalupo1
@nicolalupo1 8 ай бұрын
Ok…thanks for showing East Cleveland. I grew up there, went to school there and lived there until I married in 1995. I am white and the street I lived on in EC there were only myself and another white family living there. The city was redlined about in 1970. It went from maybe 80% white to 80% black in 1-2 years. It was nobody’s fault except maybe the real estate people. To be honest the housing stock was pretty old and the baby boom generation was moving on after finishing school down there. It was a great place to grow up. Everything was within walking distance and the schools were excellent into the 70s. Like I said the housing stock was old. The house I lived in was built in 1890. You really need deep pockets to maintain those houses. But what really hurt the city was the politicians that came into office. Apathy allowed pure, out and out crooks to hold office. Mayor after mayor allowed the city to rot deeper and deeper. You opened with the site of the high rise. It’s on Terrace Rd. Opposite the building on the other side of Terrace was a Cleveland Clinic Hospital. It was a rather large hospital once called Huron Rd Hospital. CCF (Cleveland Clinic Foundation) decided to close it about 10 years ago. The city protested but the city and CCF came to a deal. CCF threw money at the city and who knows who got what but it’s gone now. As recently as this summer Cleveland Metro Parks was going to lease the EC portion of Forest Hill Park because the EC side is like the rest of EC. EC Council members blew the deal up and CMP backed out. And for the record…Forest Hill Park sits in EC and Cleveland Heights and this was a donation to both cities by John D. Rockefeller Jr. And within this park at a top of a hill in the park on the EC side is where John D. Rockefeller Sr. Had a giant mansion that burned down in 1917. In JDR’s day the park consisted of his mansion, his golf course, his boat house and lake, his horse stables and trails within the park. And for the record, Millionaires’ Row was closer to downtown Cleveland between East 55th and downtown. You were right though, it was on Euclid Ave. I hope that clears it up a little. While here and just on the western border of EC you would have Lake View Cemetery. You could make a great video there. It’s a beautiful cemetery and former arboretum of Cleveland. There you would have found the aforementioned J.D. Rockefeller and family graves. You would also find the mausoleum of President James Garfield. Also buried there is Alan Freed, Elliot Ness, Harvey Pekar, and many other notables too numerous to mention with ties to Cleveland and history. Again thanks and good luck! -NLP
@edwardmunster3232
@edwardmunster3232 8 ай бұрын
From the west side and love and defend that city. Horrible leadership has ruined Cleveland.
@amrak5028
@amrak5028 8 ай бұрын
Great details in your statement. Born in Cleveland's St Ann's Hospital, I knew the East side well into the mid 90's. The prosperity level's changed blocks away from each other. Relief when arriving at certain intersections after apprehension and fear at others. I was a Professional Carpet Cleaner for SEARS, I requested the East Side so I could see the Grand Homes from the inside. I cleaned one of Senator Nelson Rockefeller's homes, It was not as grand as I expected to see. Another memorable home was near Rockefeller's that was a former Gangster owned Speak Easy. Plush and pompous would describe this Grand Beauty with circular drive and large parcel of ground. The Bath rooms for the era were very Grand as was the very stately home riddled with Tommy Gun Bullet holes. Down stairs was the secret rooms of the speak easy. You entered through a Bookcase door in to a grand Bar. The Piano and Bar all intact as a time capsule into the 60's when it appeared to have had it's final decor featured added. The Architecture in these neighbor hoods were built with pride by the fine immigrant Craftsman to arrive and settle this diverse City of Greater Cleveland.
@mrgoodbar216
@mrgoodbar216 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up because he had alot of partially incorrect information in this video. I moved into East Cleveland in the 80s and moved out around 2004 family continued to live there till around 2014. When we moved there the majority of it was still in pretty good shape but started declining rapidly due to the corruption. I now live in the neighboring city of Euclid and it wont be long before the same thing happens here. My house is on the market as we speak
@Cravenn5
@Cravenn5 10 ай бұрын
What an amazing video❣️ I’ve watched many as my 96 year old grandmother owned a home on the Hill in East Cleveland. The beautiful area you went to at the end, it’s so nice to see it stands among the incredible poverty here.
@wildlandcam
@wildlandcam 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting and crossing my fingers that you would tour EC. Thank you for taking the time.
@bobthetruckerguy5770
@bobthetruckerguy5770 10 ай бұрын
Some years ago, we spent quite a bit of time in Cleveland, as my son had to get a series of operations at Cleveland Clinic hospital, which isn't very far from the area you visited. We used to like to eat at Tommy's restaurant in Cleveland Heights, and visit nearby Little Italy. One time I was driving around and came across some of the blight you showed here. It's real, and very sad. There are areas close to Interstate 90 that are pretty bad as well
@markbajek2541
@markbajek2541 10 ай бұрын
I got mistakenly GPS's down east 9th street looking for a retailer that was on W 9th and drove through a couple open air drug markets .....crazy map software.
@TheRealAb216
@TheRealAb216 10 ай бұрын
no reason for east cleveland to continue to be its own city, it should just be absorbed by cleveland.
@mylesdeep1736
@mylesdeep1736 10 ай бұрын
They tried but it ain't happening. I'm from the area(Euclid)
@joedimaggio3687
@joedimaggio3687 10 ай бұрын
Why would Cleveland want to absorb this absolute mess?
@Vaxxedhole
@Vaxxedhole 10 ай бұрын
Diversity is not our strength.
@BirdDogey1
@BirdDogey1 10 ай бұрын
Cities want to absorb tax generators not drainers.
@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.
@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable. 10 ай бұрын
If I were a Cleveland taxpayer I would vote against that.
@geczy8821
@geczy8821 10 ай бұрын
The winter heating costs for those old mansions must be astounding.
@RJ-iu3pw
@RJ-iu3pw 4 ай бұрын
This was probably your best video ever. I could feel the emotion in your voice. I could feel you sensing what it was like for these poor people, with no hope.
@RobinGerhart
@RobinGerhart 10 ай бұрын
All public officials that created this mess. Heartbreaking. I grew up and had relatives all over the Cleveland area. It’s shocking to me.
@joycelebaron2582
@joycelebaron2582 10 ай бұрын
And those public officials who wouldn't be annexed into Cleveland proper without giving up their outrageous salaries!
@bonzie321
@bonzie321 10 ай бұрын
Yep by giving out free money feed and rent to these people. If they don’t work for it then it means nothing to them. They basically destroy and don’t tend to be builders.
@horseplop9
@horseplop9 10 ай бұрын
​@@joycelebaron25821 Party Rule for 60+ Years
@billygribble9939
@billygribble9939 10 ай бұрын
No self accountability...typical
@ericschaper3540
@ericschaper3540 10 ай бұрын
When you go to upstate New York, you need to start at the Roycroft Inn in East Aurora and then go to Niagara on the Lake across the river in Ontario. From there, I would go to finger lakes and Cooperstown before finishing up the upstate area in Lake Placid and the Adirondack mountains.
@bshingledecker
@bshingledecker 9 ай бұрын
Cleveland Clinic main campus starts at Euclid and about East 80th. It is massive in itself, and has been rumored that they will slowly buy up the decayed neighborhoods for next to nothing. The crime is rampant in that area as well.
@cockyhemi-123
@cockyhemi-123 10 ай бұрын
I grew up on the East Cleveland/Cleveland Heights border back in the ‘70s & ‘80s and E. Cleve. was already gone.
@t3hPoundcake
@t3hPoundcake 9 ай бұрын
I live near Aurora, driving through East Cleveland is like entering another universe. It's such a shithole and it's a dangerous sore on Cleveland's reputation. It really is sad that the state/city can't repair this place. I don't even like going downtown anymore it's like the East side is leaking onto the streets and it's usually an uncomfortable experience until you get to wherever you're walking to downtown.
@tierraoliver2959
@tierraoliver2959 9 ай бұрын
Loud and wrong ....downtown is beautiful
@goodmorningsundaymorning4533
@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 8 ай бұрын
Hi neighbor 🖐️ I live in Aurora as well.
@Ohbeybee
@Ohbeybee 10 ай бұрын
I live an hour and a half south of this. It's so sad what is happening in Cleveland. Very horrific kidnapping and crimes. And even Akron is getting bad. Breaks my heart.
@mememine12
@mememine12 10 ай бұрын
Akron has BEEN bad for a longgg time now lol where have you been?
@Ohbeybee
@Ohbeybee 10 ай бұрын
I KNOW it's been horrible OK? Bro. @@king.of.remakes
@Leroy-wm4ib
@Leroy-wm4ib 10 ай бұрын
@@mememine12 I thought Akron is a pretty good city to live in. I know people who live there and love it!! Please explain.
@mississippisdarkknight
@mississippisdarkknight 9 ай бұрын
Of course akron getting bad ,when they leave Cleveland where do they mostly go
@Leroy-wm4ib
@Leroy-wm4ib 9 ай бұрын
@@mississippisdarkknight Why would one assume Akron is bad? You rarely hear anything bad coming out of there compared to Cleveland. Maybe I missed something. Please explain thank you
@tamcoop8072
@tamcoop8072 9 ай бұрын
Fatherless homes are an epidemic
@patm5594
@patm5594 10 ай бұрын
So sad what has become of our once great nation
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 10 ай бұрын
The Rothschilds are the richest family ever
@hitek9too255
@hitek9too255 10 ай бұрын
More to come under Biden's America.
@robertbowen6610
@robertbowen6610 10 ай бұрын
I got lost there a few years ago driving a truck turned down the wrong road ended up in an area know for violence against outsiders I truly believe the only reason I made it out was because one of the dudes saw the flag on my truck that stayed veteran and asked me if I am a veteran and I am so he helped me get turned around told the shipper about it and he told me that 2 days before this a truck driver had the same problem and he got stabbed and almost died in almost the exact same spot
@EconomicWarfare
@EconomicWarfare 10 ай бұрын
😲
@markkaminski2416
@markkaminski2416 9 ай бұрын
Back in the late 80s I went to Cleveland to work out of the Ironworkers local. Not being familiar with the area I was driving around trying to find the Union Hall. It was after dark and I was near a hospital, I saw a police car and asked for directions. They were very helpful but informed me it would be wise to get out of the area quickly that it wasn't safe to be out after dark there.
@truck_yeah_440
@truck_yeah_440 9 ай бұрын
Were you delivering to a Pallet company off of Euclid Avenue by chance? I used to deliver to a Pallet company at the end of a Dead End street where there is no turn around. It's right in the heart of that area.
@infinitefixes1282
@infinitefixes1282 10 ай бұрын
Sad what EC has become. It was a thriving suburb when I grew up there. Heartbreaking to see this! Corrupt gov't is also responsible for this.
@gabe-po9yi
@gabe-po9yi 10 ай бұрын
It kills me seeing those beautiful, magnificent homes abandoned and decaying. Wouldn’t you love to live in a house like that, wow.
@robertdesautels8715
@robertdesautels8715 4 ай бұрын
Great job, thanks for the tour. Big differences from one street to another. So sad to see what was and what they have become.
@thoward190
@thoward190 7 ай бұрын
I would like for you to verify that towards the end of that video I think some of that area was actually Cleveland Heights. It’s pretty hard to believe that there are any homes of any significant value left in East Cleveland.
@IK_4
@IK_4 9 ай бұрын
My family moved out of East Cleveland to Cleveland Heights in 1980 when I was 2 years old. Black flight from EC has been going on for a long time. It's sad, because even as recent as the 90's EC was nothing like this.
@stevesimmons6286
@stevesimmons6286 10 ай бұрын
Good Lord! The community leaders and politicians should be ashamed of themselves. I can't even believe that these types of conditions exist in this country. Absolutely pathetic.
@adwaye
@adwaye 10 ай бұрын
The people who live there are to blame. They made this mess. No responsibility at all, blame someone else.
@kyoakland
@kyoakland 9 ай бұрын
​@@adwayecant just blame the people that live there when all the jobs went overseas that we're keeping that town afloat greed is most likely to blame
@user-bw2zt5jd9u
@user-bw2zt5jd9u 9 ай бұрын
@@adwayeMostly. No question
@johnwilliams6880
@johnwilliams6880 9 ай бұрын
@@kyoakland So they sit around waiting for a job to show up? Go to any port of entry. Do you see jobs crossing back and forth? No. You see goods moving back and forth. Those goods are going to people who buy them. Think about it.
@rlmpproductions
@rlmpproductions 8 ай бұрын
Man thank you for this! I've been trying to explain Cleveland to my friends in Vegas but now I can just send this video!
@levianan
@levianan 7 ай бұрын
Joe & Nic once again do a very good job of showcasing a city without kicking down. Well done.
@BootleggersBandit-rf1pq
@BootleggersBandit-rf1pq 10 ай бұрын
Yea, I've been repairing roofs in this town on occasion for about a decade. History rotting before our eyes and citizens being neglected. What a shame.
@K8woodley
@K8woodley 10 ай бұрын
Just came across your channel recently and working my way through your videos - so interesting and love your gentle narrative.
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 10 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@uscgalpha91
@uscgalpha91 8 ай бұрын
Nice to see the brothers again making a fine hell of it
@Spucky50
@Spucky50 10 ай бұрын
Excellent and enlightening. Thank you.
@candid1954
@candid1954 10 ай бұрын
One thing I did notice amidst all that poverty was when you drove throughout that blighted community that there were modern or newer cars parked in the driveways or in front of the houses.
@zoidmo3388
@zoidmo3388 10 ай бұрын
yes, I too, noticed the cars. I could share a few stories about my experiences while living in Cleveland area back in late 70's (Garfield Ht/Bedford/Warrensville..omg) It was a huge! eye opener since i was young Canadian, huge culture shock! I was told ' u stay in the car with doors locked' 'u always keep doors locked' 'u always bring our dog to the door when answering'
@LightoftheMoon
@LightoftheMoon 10 ай бұрын
Car's are necessary to get around in most of the USA. There is next to zero reliable, safe public transportation across the USA. Driveways with 'newer' car's actually in the driveway signifies to me that someone may be fortunate enough to have some kind of employment. The US is a failed, dying country ~
@midway27272727
@midway27272727 10 ай бұрын
Gots to have that status symbol ! I live in a cardboard box, but look at my car !! Acting like you have money is a guaranteed way to stay broke. Invest in yourself and don't worry about looking like you're someone that you're not.
@saturationstation1446
@saturationstation1446 9 ай бұрын
its almost like you cant function in 99% of this country without a vehicle... you know more people live in cars than houses that cost less than 100k? you know most jobs pay 10k? just to buy a car you need a pretty good job. most likely one you were networked into because the chances of getting a job outside of networking these days in 1 in 700...
@kenyalove3770
@kenyalove3770 9 ай бұрын
The single homes and many of the 2-family properties are homeowmers, who have lived there long before crack cocaine was dropped there.
@gingerdude94
@gingerdude94 10 ай бұрын
Nearly $33T in debt, this is just a taste of what is to come.
@CarStory
@CarStory 10 ай бұрын
Ironic how the city has no money but the politicians that destroyed it always get paid.
@latoniogreen3822
@latoniogreen3822 10 ай бұрын
I grew up in East Cleveland…just drove through there and got teary eyed!! Used to be a nice proud city 😢
@nkel6111
@nkel6111 10 ай бұрын
bet you don't live there now...but i understand. family lived @ rozelle and eddy road off superior. in 1978..seeemed nice enuff.
@latoniogreen3822
@latoniogreen3822 10 ай бұрын
@@nkel6111 No but it was some of the best days
@genecollins5917
@genecollins5917 10 ай бұрын
Hey. I really enjoy your videos. So much history - good and bad I suppose. Sad to see the decay of towns and cities. Many of these places were once thriving wonderful places to live I suppose. Thanks for what you do. I responded earlier to your video on South Carolina, not realizing it was six months old. I really liked that one too. Enjoy your journey, but stay safe.
@billanderson3192
@billanderson3192 10 ай бұрын
East Cleveland was something at one time. May West lived there. I lived in East Cleveland for 9 years, and it was horrible! I was forced to live there due to some bad financial decisions I made. When I could get out, I ran and didn't look back. The working class are taxed to death to make up for those that don't work. In addition every elected official has lined their pockets are ran. Many went to jail. Nonetheless, the residents suffered. He's right. At one time you couldn't tell the difference between East Cleveland and Cleveland Heights. I have a strong feeling Cleveland Hts. is next on the depression list. I hope I'm wrong!
@johndouglas5712
@johndouglas5712 9 ай бұрын
You ain't wrong . Lucky me ! I'm stuck here
@nkel6111
@nkel6111 6 ай бұрын
cleve hts, garfield, then maple, bedford. problem is tolerating overwhelming actions, presence of black thugs...many ages and many address where they wait til sundown
@MD-tj4br
@MD-tj4br 10 ай бұрын
I thought at first you weren’t going to talk about this city’s history but I was so pleased when you did! I’ve driven thru this area recently and it’s just such a shame. The houses are beautiful (or once were). Ty!
@tomm5936
@tomm5936 10 ай бұрын
I love watching your videos, they give such a good view of the towns you visit. The contrasts in this were staggering. I wonder who lives in those super nice homes you showed towards the end, maybe those council folks making 6 figures. I look forward to upstate NY, I lived in Rochester and know the area quite well. I hope you visit Rochester.
@judywilson9003
@judywilson9003 10 ай бұрын
I’m with you Joe, it’s not going to get any better.
@alexandralovesgoats3360
@alexandralovesgoats3360 10 ай бұрын
I was not aware there was an East Cleveland. The wealthy pockets have some gorgeous homes. The blight, roads, graffiti and dilapidated homes are indeed depressing. Years ago Cabrini Green in Chicago was blocks away from wealthy Chicagoans. Jane Byrne, former Chicago Mayor, famously moved into Cabrini Green. Thank you for another great video!
@lindajohnson5833
@lindajohnson5833 9 ай бұрын
Jane Byrne moved into Cabrini Green in Chicago for 48 hours with guards and left. She did NOT make that place her home.
@richardvanderuyt5200
@richardvanderuyt5200 10 ай бұрын
HI guys, i just want to say how fascinating your videos are, I love every one.Thank you so much for sharing your road trips with us all, Stay safe!
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@HulkSmash86
@HulkSmash86 10 ай бұрын
This is only 20 minutes from me and I often forget how sad that area is.
@bayoucityhtx
@bayoucityhtx 10 ай бұрын
Good description of what’s going on in the area
@megangrubb773
@megangrubb773 10 ай бұрын
You should try Akron, Ohio. That's historic and also mostly poverty stricken. It's my birthplace, and I've watched it struggle for years.
@neilsmith9066
@neilsmith9066 9 ай бұрын
There’s been some revitalization some they proposed a bill for the old run down historic buildings to be redone to historic level and no taxes will be in the building for 30years I believe. A couple billionaires have done some nice things but crime is spiking majorly again unfortunately. I live 15 minutes outside and rarely go downtown anymore unfortunately.
@markholland5810
@markholland5810 10 ай бұрын
Superb video as usual! Thank you!
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, Mark!
@joekelley1014
@joekelley1014 10 ай бұрын
Very sad to see this. In spite of these conditions, this needs to be seen, maybe there will be a wake up call. We can only hope. Thank you for the video. Have a safe trip!
@michaelneal900
@michaelneal900 10 ай бұрын
The number one reason for this is profit at any cost. All the factories and companies went to Mexico and Asia for cheap labor.
@johnepants
@johnepants 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say that’s the number one reason. Heck, East Cleveland borders University Circle, which boasts two world class hospitals, a significant university, and a number of cultural institutions. The city has just been mismanaged to hell and allowed to rot.
@MailDude
@MailDude 9 ай бұрын
Those Gorgeous Brick Tudor Style Homes are referred to as "Rockefeller Homes." They all on the National List of Historic Registry ! Stunning !
@user-op9zk3oz6c
@user-op9zk3oz6c 10 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your upstate NY video. Hope you visit Albany and down the Hudson Valley. Love all of your videos. I don’t travel much and watching I can see sites I’ll never experience. ❤️
@cliffpleasant5479
@cliffpleasant5479 9 ай бұрын
When I grew up on the border of E.Cleveland we weren't even allowed in E.C. as it was a very prominent suburb.John D.Rockefeller had a whole street of homes his executive's lived in up near Forest Hills park .A very Affluent community was East Cleveland.
@Royalgazlite
@Royalgazlite 9 ай бұрын
Im from Cleveland, Shaker Height and lived in University Heights and this makes me so sad, because this was a very nice area when I was a kid in the 80's and 90's l used to dance at there community theater!😢😢😢
@JustBored589
@JustBored589 9 ай бұрын
I used to work about 10 minutes away from that United market ive never been over that way and didn’t realize it was that bad. I would mostly stick to main streets. A coworker of mine would take the bus to work every day and she lived in an apartment complex somewhere nearby. She said that one day management stopped collecting rent, garbage wasn’t picked up anymore, it was like the complex was abandoned by whoever was in charge. She said random people started moving into empty units. Someone in the apartment complex organized to get the garbage cleaned up but I just couldn’t imagine the situation.
@joycelebaron2582
@joycelebaron2582 10 ай бұрын
You've answered my two questions just as soon as I could formulate them in my mind. That first 'apartment building" (I was hoping you wouldn't go in, no you're too smart for that!) is what we used to call 'the projects' in Providence, where I grew up. The city blew them up in the '90s (implosions, televised and all) and I wondered why they wouldn't do that in EC. $$$$, of course. My second question is why Cleveland wouldn't annex the city. (Cleveland itself was no prize in the '70s when my family rode through there. I had never seen so many smokestacks belching noxious things). But that story about those corrupt politicians was wild! So much corruption, right out in the open. The city is decaying right before their eyes and all they're worried about is their $100k+ salaries. And they took that stance with a straight face. Outrageous.
@williebeamish5879
@williebeamish5879 10 ай бұрын
Greed rules.
@georgetinant9486
@georgetinant9486 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff again!!! Good Work Joe !!!
@AwesomeFinish
@AwesomeFinish 10 ай бұрын
This is what you get when a certain political party is in charge. Everything they touch turns to garbage.
@TinkerTailor4303
@TinkerTailor4303 10 ай бұрын
​@@SAMC4So now you're monitoring the comments?
@niklass1641
@niklass1641 10 ай бұрын
@@oldskolacura9798 and the area I live in is a liberal bastion and is gorgeous, so what's your point?
@WayneMarion
@WayneMarion 10 ай бұрын
@@SAMC4 You don't get to tell others what they can or cannot say here.
@AwesomeFinish
@AwesomeFinish 10 ай бұрын
@@niklass1641 Sure. Why don't you tell us where this "bastion" is? I bet you won't because it simply isn't true.
@craigr147
@craigr147 10 ай бұрын
@@AwesomeFinish Their probably telling the truth. I live in Austin and it's pretty nice for now, but I'm not delusional I know it's only a matter of time before it all turns to crap.
@tracyharms3548
@tracyharms3548 10 ай бұрын
Did you decide to omit the Warner And Swasey Observatory or did you not know it’s there? Arguably the most iconic structure in East Cleveland.
@Crystal-qc6tu
@Crystal-qc6tu 10 ай бұрын
Love watching your videos ❤
@JoseGarcia-ne1ip
@JoseGarcia-ne1ip 9 ай бұрын
What a gorgeous sight! Like looking at beautiful cities like Paris or London or Vienna. All here in the good ole’ United States of America.
@gplunk
@gplunk 8 ай бұрын
What's really sad to me is that you will never see that kind of architectural design in new construction; and it's all just fading away....
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 8 ай бұрын
You’re right.
@deehoward2351
@deehoward2351 10 ай бұрын
Its such a shock on the mind to see these blighted areas and in the same window of my mind I see some of the gorgeous areas that you have also visited and shown to your viewers. A lot of the disparities we are seeing across the country are so complex and I cannot think of respectful words to explain them. And by the way, I am not blaming any one group. It's complex, but someway somehow someone will need to step up and reverse the decay. Or nature will do it for us.
@MegaCharm16
@MegaCharm16 9 ай бұрын
Grew up in East Cleveland on Strathmore in the 70’s It was nice neighborhood then!
@A_Chicago_Man
@A_Chicago_Man 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@lisalee5132
@lisalee5132 10 ай бұрын
I suggest visiting Canton Ohio, it has changed significantly as well
@joycelebaron2582
@joycelebaron2582 10 ай бұрын
Most of the houses for sale in EC, as you've probably guessed, are "Investment Opportunities!" "Handyman Special!" and the like for the 40-60k range. There are a couple multi-families for around 100k. The pictures obviously look nice but you go on Street View and not so much. There's one for 75k that looks to have at least been recently painted. 5 BDR and 1(ONE) bath. Doesn't look too bad in pictures but I've toured houses like that and no thanks. There was another for about 80-85k (3bd-1bath) but I didn't look at it. Like you, I was getting too depressed and had to get out of there.
@VulcanLogic
@VulcanLogic 10 ай бұрын
That's one of the least discussed problems with the urban decay of older homes: functional obsolescence. That's to say, to your point, 5 beds 1 bath. That's just not acceptable in today's market. A lot of these places don't have closets, and you're going to have to assume full rewire and replumb. Probably a quarter will have foundation issues and then you'll have low ceiling or unacceptable room dimensions (i.e. the tiny nurseries you find in some they try to count as a bedroom), and too many interior walls. So on top of the external depreciation of the burnt out homes around you, and the physical depreciation, you have to redesign the floor plans as well, and that's not cheap, either. Detroit had the right idea. Tear most of them down to make way for new construction.
@joycelebaron2582
@joycelebaron2582 10 ай бұрын
@@VulcanLogic Hi @VulcanLogic! Thank you so much for your thoughtful opinion and essay. I can agree with you on many fronts. I took over my grandfather's 1926 bungalow and, because it had been in the family and I had grown up around it, never realized the problems. Just about everything you mentioned.
@stefanschwarz1232
@stefanschwarz1232 3 ай бұрын
Interesting video, man! Thank you so much for sharing! I´m from Germany & I grew up with Americans for over 25 years. All of my neighbors here are US. I have good good and trusted friend in Columbus, OH. Great guy. My ex neighbor here, she´s a USAFE crew chief, and she´s originally from Toledo, OH. All the best to you guys
@AmandaNewman-mt5qm
@AmandaNewman-mt5qm 9 ай бұрын
I love all your videos. I always feel like Im in the back seat of the Bronco just along for the ride. You guys are the best!!
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip
@JoeandNicsRoadTrip 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, that’s exactly what I’m going for!
@nileshalinger
@nileshalinger 10 ай бұрын
I am white and from Stark County (Canton - I-77) and don't recall why I was up there that Saturday morning, but, I was amazed at the beautiful architecture devastated and vacated. I took some pictures then got hungry. There is a McDonald's - there were thirty customers - mostly men - and I was the only white person there. I sat in the restaurant and ate my meal - and noone bothered me, noone bothered my vehicle. I guess the Mickey D's is where the residents gather for their coffee. Now right across the street - NOT in East Cleveland - is a beautiful old home - law offices.
@InimeKai
@InimeKai 10 ай бұрын
Why are you automatically assuming you'll be some sort of victim for being white in a predominantly black neighborhood? Please stop buying into fear mongering
@tonynguyen6735
@tonynguyen6735 10 ай бұрын
Minnesota just raised the tax again in my area starting Oct 1st. Watching this video about East Cleveland makes me less disappointed about it. LoL
@MishimaH8
@MishimaH8 10 ай бұрын
East Cleveland was thriving back in the 80s and early 90s. Sad to see how it looks today! Go Shaw High!!
@cle-chi
@cle-chi 8 ай бұрын
Shaw bands are the baddest
@stevetessier8532
@stevetessier8532 10 ай бұрын
I had friends who lived on Lawnview Avenue which is not far from Euclid Avenue..So sad to see these old homes crumbling..!
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