Easter Rising Centenary - BBC Newsnight

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BBC Newsnight

BBC Newsnight

8 жыл бұрын

The citizens of our closest neighbour are preparing to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Easter Rising, the rebellion against the British Empire. But for some, it's legacy remains a difficult one, with which Ireland is only now beginning to grapple. Lewis Goodall has been there.
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@scati1971
@scati1971 8 жыл бұрын
no its not. I have never seen a happier comemoration of 1916. Its so amazing a hundred years later and they still can't show us just plain respect. you would swear that all the violence in Ireland really had nothing to do with Britain that they were somehow they were dragged into it.
@Pmbme97
@Pmbme97 7 жыл бұрын
This is so twisted to make it seem the Irish people look down on or regret the rising Oh My God! Talk about taking selective quotes from Yeats!
@irishpaddy5962
@irishpaddy5962 5 жыл бұрын
Patrick M this is nonsense.still to this day British people fail to see how important Easter of 1916 is to Irish people,this Easter week was the start of Irish freedom.
@skippership7
@skippership7 5 жыл бұрын
irish paddy are you sure about that, don’t underestimate our understanding of Irish / British history. For example why is it that some English (never the Irish) still question to this day the legal validity of 256.10? It would be good to hear the Irish view on that, so, over to you!
@allisonalexander3569
@allisonalexander3569 4 жыл бұрын
When the leader's of the Easter Rising 1916 were being walked to kilhaimaine prison they were spat upon , particularly de Valera and Michael Collins by the Irish people.
@aaronmc4268
@aaronmc4268 4 жыл бұрын
@@allisonalexander3569 you're talking absolute shit because Micheal Collins wasn't executed by the british army you idiot go read a book
@allisonalexander2269
@allisonalexander2269 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmc4268 Excuse me, when replying to my comment please refrain from using vulgar language. Did I say that Michael Collins was executed by the British in my comment? NO. Also I am knowledgeable in Irish history.
@user-on2ys9jr6t
@user-on2ys9jr6t 8 жыл бұрын
no mention of the fact britain invaded ireland and subjugated the people for centuries. millions dead, language near destroyed, country partitioned. but ofcourse we are violent for rebelling, also irish people fought in ww1 under the understanding, as britain had promised, that we would gain home rule.
@josephinewinter
@josephinewinter 6 жыл бұрын
i think they expect you to have basic history to click on a video about the easter rising, mate
@keithwatson1384
@keithwatson1384 5 жыл бұрын
The normans invaded Ireland, who invaded England 100 years before that, but there's no ill feelings there are there. Stop living in the past
@acidsunrise
@acidsunrise 4 жыл бұрын
It was the Normans that invaded.Britain didnt exist in political terms in 1169 and neither did Ireland as a political entity.
@Tereyoc
@Tereyoc 4 жыл бұрын
@@acidsunrise England had very little presence of any kind in Ireland by the middle of the 1500s the nine years war of Elizabeth 1 was one of the most expensive wars England every fought and was an invasion. Cromwell invaded. King John invaded in 1300s when he realized Irish people didn't any taxes because they simple didn't regonise the English crown.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 3 жыл бұрын
England conquered Ireland. Millions dead? Partition was caused by IRA uprising ROI got home rule after ww1 Ulster got home rule too
@coolguy1983
@coolguy1983 5 жыл бұрын
THERES NO DIVIDE. 1916 WAS A MONUMENTAL EVENT IN THE CREATION OF IRELAND AND ALL ARE PROUD OF IT
@pauliewalnuts100
@pauliewalnuts100 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not all are proud of it.
@ryanhartigan2764
@ryanhartigan2764 Ай бұрын
@@pauliewalnuts100traitors then and they would never dare utter that the 1916 was not rightly justified in a Irish pub in any town you’d be sooner picking your teeth off the floor
@bensanderson7144
@bensanderson7144 6 жыл бұрын
good god, even as an american I find the british account of this event mystifying.
@user-lp6ft5vh6l
@user-lp6ft5vh6l 8 ай бұрын
As a Brit I find that this account mystifying
@mmeblaerlin5933
@mmeblaerlin5933 4 жыл бұрын
I'm am English brought up in West Cork and even I feel very strongly about this. You learn it in History class in Ireland but in England there's no talk of it. Not enough anyway. I did some secondary school in England too and you hear nothing about it. The Irish are wonderful people and I was blessed to have been sharing the same land. They don't deserve the brutality they receive.
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 25 күн бұрын
We weren't behind the door when it came to brutality ourselves kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNB2i9Of3tPMhJs.html&pp=ygUla2lsbWljaGVhbCBhbWJ1c2ggYSBzb2xkaWVycyB0aG91Z2h0cw%3D%3D
@oisin1816
@oisin1816 5 жыл бұрын
This is painfully misleading
@patricklucey8850
@patricklucey8850 4 ай бұрын
Would you like Gorgonzola on your Omelette?
@irishpaddy5962
@irishpaddy5962 5 жыл бұрын
Thank god for these heroic men and women.This is the foundation of our beautiful country 🇮🇪🍀 R.I.P all Irish Rebel's who did for the cause of Irish freedom.
@johngilmore6688
@johngilmore6688 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, DeValera had three times more IRA men executed than the British. 77 to be precise.
@barryb90
@barryb90 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngilmore6688 How do figure that? He literally fought with the IRA before and after the treaty. You don't have to like him but the shite people make up about him is ridiculous.
@tochiagubuzo7978
@tochiagubuzo7978 2 жыл бұрын
those 'hero's' were definitely racist LOL
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngilmore6688 it was immediate post treaty Irish government the shot 77 IRA because while the British were only playing for a draw they had to play to win or they got shot themselves.
@garsm2290
@garsm2290 Жыл бұрын
All currently being thrown away into homelessness, tax breaks for multinationals and property developers, corrupt politicians and a crisis-ridden health service.
@thomasucc
@thomasucc 8 жыл бұрын
Gosh the English can never move on. It is like getting a divorce and your man never buggers off.
@noodles1916
@noodles1916 8 жыл бұрын
+thomasucc lol
@theredraven
@theredraven 8 жыл бұрын
+Pat Aherne "Why did they ally with Poland and France?" To defend against a belligerent man upset his country had lost World War One perhaps? Would you like to go to Poland and ask people to apologise for not negotiating more with Hitler or Stalin? Methinks you'll at the very least get a black eye. " And now their elite want to pull out of the EU so that their banks can get rid of regulation and can continue to rob their own population? The english always were lambs to the slaughter. Sheep get sheared and shot." What does that make brave, independent Ireland, brow beaten into having a second vote on the Lisbon Treaty after they voted no to it? Ireland, so proud and independent that one year recently politicians in the German parliament saw the budget because those in the Dail. Somehow, I can't help but feel you're the sheep going along with the broken European roller-coaster.
@theredraven
@theredraven 8 жыл бұрын
Pat Aherne If they only wanted their old port back why did they carry on invading places outside of Poland including countries that declared themselves neutral?
@seandelaney2
@seandelaney2 8 жыл бұрын
It's long past time that Ireland went back to the Irish. We have done enough damage their
@thethreeamazingmen
@thethreeamazingmen 8 жыл бұрын
+NSARWatching lookbusy never thought id see a unionist write that? but its good to hear. We dont want to fight Britain, we simply want to decide our lives for ourselves
@seandelaney2
@seandelaney2 8 жыл бұрын
shane smalls I believe in the union of Britain not Britain and Ireland. I don't agree with the EU because I don't like Germany telling us what to do, I can't really blame you for feeling the same way.
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 8 жыл бұрын
+NSARWatching look it has already been given back fuck Northern Ireland I don't want bigots part of Ireland.
@seandelaney2
@seandelaney2 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Kelly Thats why thick cowardly bigots like you won't be given the choice
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 8 жыл бұрын
NSARWatching lookbusy Ha Me a bigot I just gave you permission to have N.I for as long as you want the ROI unfortunately will have referendum at same time N.I calls rather
@aranmcdonagh255
@aranmcdonagh255 2 жыл бұрын
For the record most(not all)Irish in the Somme didn't fight for Britian they fought to feed thier family, respect to them & to the rebels who fought to give thier children a future where they weren't treated like animals
@theonemantrainwreck
@theonemantrainwreck 8 жыл бұрын
for feck sake im so sick of hearing unionists say "they didnt have the support of the public" as if that means anything when they did what they did they earned the support from the populace thats how all revolutions start with a hand full of people who fight to make a difference who inspire the rest of the populace. im detest the idea that the british think they can make us feel bad about are victory's considering the crap they did in upholding the union they seriously have no led to stand on
@TT_1221
@TT_1221 8 жыл бұрын
+sgtcallahan96 As President Higgins said, "They may not have stood in a local election but you have to look at the totality of events of that period".
@theonemantrainwreck
@theonemantrainwreck 8 жыл бұрын
up north where i live its funny the unionists telling the nationalist there not comfortable with the rising there the descendants of the people who oppresses are ancestors witch was part of what mad the rising necessary. its like the kkk telling black people they take issue with black history month
@AnCoilean
@AnCoilean 8 жыл бұрын
1916 creating divisions. So Carson importing arms and people signing the covenant with blood. Or in 1915 when my great grandmother and her parents were burnt out their hometown of Swatragh, Derry in 1915 by loyalists .
@papadoc711
@papadoc711 8 жыл бұрын
+SeanIsNotCool Or at Bombay street, St Matthews or Burntollet?
@AnCoilean
@AnCoilean 8 жыл бұрын
+papadoc711 its interesting how rte down here in the republic and the bbc differ on discussing the riots of 69
@TT_1221
@TT_1221 7 жыл бұрын
I know right, attempts at revisionist history by the BBC.
@StarMonkies
@StarMonkies 7 жыл бұрын
This made it sound like Irish people have some regret over gaining independence. You''d be hard pressed to find any Irish person who thinks that. Do we regret we had to do it through bloodshed? Sure, but that wasn't our fault. That lies with the British who wouldn't give us our independence.
@stpat7614
@stpat7614 6 жыл бұрын
But Ireland was already on the verge of independence. All the rising and war did was give Ireland limited autonomy within an empire already on the verge of breakup.
@aoibhinnomahony7712
@aoibhinnomahony7712 6 жыл бұрын
St Pat nó it wasn't on the fucking verge
@stpat7614
@stpat7614 6 жыл бұрын
Read up on the Home Rule Crisis. The Brits were discussing partition to ensure home rule could be implemented without civil war. It's pretty clear then they were serious. The genie was out of the bottle; one way or another home rule was coming.
@pauliewalnuts100
@pauliewalnuts100 3 жыл бұрын
@@stpat7614 What are babbling on about? The British Tory party who were in league with the Ulster Unionists were conspiring to cause a civil war in Ireland and used the Home Rule bill and those Orange cunts took the bait.
@stpat7614
@stpat7614 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauliewalnuts100 The Tories only succeeded at excluding some of Ulster from the Home Rule bill. Partition became inevitable, and the Independence War could not prevent it.
@Ligerpride
@Ligerpride 8 жыл бұрын
This narrative made me laugh, the Irish has never "turned the lens on itself" in the manner the speaker means. The Irish have always been proud and grateful for the Easter rising, a partitioned Ireland but one with a significant Republic was the best case scenario available, and violence was a means to an end. The only change in outward sentiment was due to sensitivities to other communities due to troubled relationships and not wishing to stoke them further. It might sound like a strange approach to the British, but there are some cultures who have the ability to refrain from triumphalism in order to achieve reconciliation. If you want to have full forensics on this then you could state that the British should have just left the island altogether!
@61505
@61505 8 жыл бұрын
+Ligerpride the British stil engage in triumphalism despite their imperialist racist past! with this notion of a 'royal" family. I was just thinking how the opening ceremony of the London Olympics was ostensibly about Britains industry developing but could be interpreted as their exploitation of the world as the actors were people of all races but it went way over the heads of the British....but may\be i digress...
@polishcow7193
@polishcow7193 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you bother writing all that down?
@Ligerpride
@Ligerpride 4 жыл бұрын
@@polishcow7193 I could say the same to you.
@christiancowper9508
@christiancowper9508 6 ай бұрын
'A terrible beauty is born.' This is clearly self-reflection.
@path9120
@path9120 8 жыл бұрын
Our heros in arms, long live their souls in gods heart
@jelly_donut69
@jelly_donut69 2 жыл бұрын
The heros of1916 will never be forgotten. The people of Ireland owe them so much. Erin divided will never be at peace...
@skippership7
@skippership7 Жыл бұрын
"Ireland unfree" shell never be at peace = PHP's graveside oration for O'Donovan Rossa on 1st Aug 1915.
@richardpcrowe
@richardpcrowe 8 жыл бұрын
Seizing the General Post Office means the same to the Irish as Concord Bridge means to us Americans
@jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980
@jimmy-stourbridge-fc8980 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a proud Englishman but my great nan was from Kerry so I have a balanced point of view on this and this is just spin. To make the Irish look bad
@isensiblehumanist993
@isensiblehumanist993 7 жыл бұрын
This is quite biased and misinformed. The separate Ulster identity had already crystallised before 1916 and the Irishmen who fought in WW1 came home to their fellow British army soldiers who they had fought alongside committing atrocities against their people. Ireland tried for almost the entire 19th century to break away and gain equal opportunity and freedom through constitutional means and we're met with putrefied, vicious racial attitudes by both British politicians and the press alike. England never cared for the fate of the Irish people, and failed to respect its separate culture and history. I hold no ill will for these failures , but Irish people had to assert their right to control of their own destinies and violence, despite all of its negative consequences was the only way to do so. The 20th century was the era of the bomb and rifle in Irish politics, we owe it to all victims on both sides to make sure that the 21st century is an era of prosperity so we can look back on all these events as unfortunate but somewhat necessary events on the road to stable long term peace and equality. I respect the British and all that they have contributed positively to the world, but there were undoubtedly were errors in British rule in Ireland, some out of sheer malice and hatred, some out of naivety, in their control of Ireland. Do not let blind nationalism and tribalism cloud your judgement.
@ballybrittas
@ballybrittas 3 жыл бұрын
RIP TO IRELANDS BRAVEST MEN
@Lissadell1916
@Lissadell1916 3 жыл бұрын
Today 24th April…the 105th Anniversary of the Easter Rising!…All honour to the Irish Republican Brotherhood, The Irish Citizen Army, The Irish Volunteers, The Women of Cumann na mBan and the boys of Na Fianna Eireann. May their Names and Courage never be forgotten.
@kimmahon2872
@kimmahon2872 4 жыл бұрын
We should remember both. It should be remembered a lot of Irish men joined the British army in the belief that if the Irish showed loyalty then we would get the home rule we'd been promised but that Ulster fought against. It's a complicated scenario we were never British and we'd never stop fighting for our own identity but we have ties with Britain that will probably never die either. That go beyond a simple oppressor situation.
@sanock3017
@sanock3017 8 жыл бұрын
That Unionist can just shut up. He's British so why doesn't he move to England.
@servitrad
@servitrad 8 жыл бұрын
But the REAL anniversary would be the 24th April ! The Easter Rising began on 24th April 1916.
@oliviamacarthur18
@oliviamacarthur18 8 жыл бұрын
We needed to get away from Britain, Catholics ( the vast majority of the country) were discriminated against, the Irish culture and language was dying, and then later after the rising the Brits brought in the black and tans which was the last straw for almost all Irish people against the rebels. And then bloody Sunday happened where almost a dozen innocents died from open fire by British forces in a horrendous revenge attack. We did spill blood, but not as much innocent blood as those British soldiers.
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 25 күн бұрын
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@pauladaniels-bc7rj
@pauladaniels-bc7rj Ай бұрын
My irish great uncle took part in the Easter rising,the details are shrouded in mystery & its not often talked about,i often wonder if he was in the irish volunteers at the time x
@silviasanchez648
@silviasanchez648 3 жыл бұрын
"Who should we remember?" What sort of question is that? Both! They did what they did because they believed it best for them and their country. Both deserve memory and recognition, each in their own way.
@holliegrantxxx7831
@holliegrantxxx7831 3 жыл бұрын
MY IRELAND,THANK YOU
@jacobdalton1602
@jacobdalton1602 Жыл бұрын
The BBC or any British media shouldn't be allowed to report on such a historic and important moment in the history if a country that they ruled over with a iron fist for so long
@skippership7
@skippership7 Жыл бұрын
Why not, it is their history as well as Irelands. I'm not saying it's a glorious history, far from it, but it's still their history.
@peadarocolmain4850
@peadarocolmain4850 2 жыл бұрын
The British will always get an Irishman to say what they want to hear. That guy at 4:33 is a fine example. Does that guy know that the civilians who died were murdered by the British Army? They placed a gunboat called the Helga in the river Liffey and began shelling the homes of civilians, committing mass-murder to force the rebels to surrender for execution. "In order to prevent the further massacre of the citizens of Dublin by His Majesty's forces we the undersigned agree to an unconditional surrender" The British will be very pleased with Diarmuid Ferriter's contribution too. He's trying to imply that the 1916 rising caused the partition of Ireland. Diarmuid, the border was put here against the wishes of the Irish voters. He seems surprised that the War of Independence was violent. Was there ever a War of Independence anywhere that wasn't violent?. The British Empire took the lives of 150 million people and nobody ever got any concession of any kind from the British by peaceful means.
@mrtjmallen
@mrtjmallen 6 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me who the Unionist at 3:19 is? Would be helpful if the video showed names...
@mattrichert2920
@mattrichert2920 8 жыл бұрын
5:39 what is the name of the painting on the building?
@robbiethepict2783
@robbiethepict2783 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't a bad idea as the BBC like to make out. The Irish won their freedom from the Imperialist British that under direct rule from London ignored the failing potato crops for years and still did nothing when 1 million Irish died in the famine.
@caoimhekelly8619
@caoimhekelly8619 5 жыл бұрын
To say that they did not receive support from other nationalists is simply not true, they did receive this support. The only reason that the numbers were so low was due to communication issues when Mac Neil told his troops ,in the country areas of Ireland, to stand down as whether or not the rising would take place was unsure. There was not enough time to issue another order so the rising took place anyway. Also due to the British and their resolution of execution quickly turned the entire country against the British government and in support of the Irish rebels.
@BravoSixGoingDark
@BravoSixGoingDark 6 жыл бұрын
What documentary is this??
@callu947
@callu947 5 ай бұрын
As an Irish person living all their life in Dublin I find this very misleading. 1916 is probably the most uniting moment in Irish history and is revered still to this day. Why ask the opinion of a unionist on how 1916 is remembered? That’s like asking a person of Jewish faith how they feel towards Nazi Germany
@carthy29
@carthy29 9 ай бұрын
6 years later David llyod George asked de valera for a cease fire and peace talks in the war of independence, all kicked off on easter monday 1916 , thoght this was the 7th national uprising against 800 years of english occupation
@pelatanmarc2668
@pelatanmarc2668 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry for this slightly trivial question, but are the 2 persons who are interviewed in the first part of the video Irish ? I'm French and I'm not really familiar with the accent, and I think it might be interesting to know...
@MariaGomez-qb9ce
@MariaGomez-qb9ce 8 жыл бұрын
+Pelatan Marc I was just asking myself the same question, and then I saw your question.. I hope someone could enlighten us
@MariaGomez-qb9ce
@MariaGomez-qb9ce 8 жыл бұрын
+Pelatan Marc The first interview is Audrey Whitty she works in the National Museum of Ireland.
@MariaGomez-qb9ce
@MariaGomez-qb9ce 8 жыл бұрын
+Pelatan Marc The second is Ronnan Fanning an Irish historian.
@pelatanmarc2668
@pelatanmarc2668 8 жыл бұрын
+Maria Gomez Thank you ! You rock !
@MariaGomez-qb9ce
@MariaGomez-qb9ce 8 жыл бұрын
+Pelatan Marc You are welcome I am doing the same
@irishhomebrewer
@irishhomebrewer 8 жыл бұрын
C'Mon Ireland. Freedom
@thedarkhugheshughes2640
@thedarkhugheshughes2640 Жыл бұрын
Not rag tag rebels you mean young educated brave men and women of Ireland
@wesleyjohndelaney106
@wesleyjohndelaney106 5 жыл бұрын
Very well put together footage over excellent music. That actress, I know her, but not her name, she was brilliant!
@georgebrowne5935
@georgebrowne5935 2 жыл бұрын
Only when Britain leaves the 32 Counties of Ireland to the People living on the Island of Ireland to Govern, can the old wounds be healed.
@markharrison2544
@markharrison2544 6 жыл бұрын
Have the British ever apologised for carrying out genocide during the Easter Rising?
@Nautilus1972
@Nautilus1972 8 жыл бұрын
A hundred years since the Dubs jeered the captured rebels as they were marched through Dublin, waving their little Union Jacks.
@TT_1221
@TT_1221 8 жыл бұрын
+Nautilus1972 I guess that was Kevin Myers and John Bruton's grad parents, :) ? lol.
@stgabrielsblue9806
@stgabrielsblue9806 2 жыл бұрын
Respect
@stiofanofirghil1916
@stiofanofirghil1916 3 жыл бұрын
Helped to create divisions, read the Proclamation.. The division was there.. All brought from Britain through colonial theory.. The irony of a Unionist disrespecting the Provisional Government for rebelling that Easter week, when they were all set to rebel had home rule been enacted is astonishing!!
@skippership7
@skippership7 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I'm sure you having something interesting to say here but it seems a bit disjointed, could you explain please?
@mhennessy5134
@mhennessy5134 3 жыл бұрын
Britain double crossed Collins/Ireland on the border issue,as it was not what was agreed or aspired to and this has always been the British playbook. This playbook will come back to haunt them time and again until they facilitate a unified Ireland in the future.
@josemama428
@josemama428 7 ай бұрын
Ireland for the Irish 2023❤🇮🇪☘️
@therealfranz
@therealfranz Жыл бұрын
The actress of Maarva from Andor(star wars) is great
@baukebaljeu8636
@baukebaljeu8636 Жыл бұрын
The Royal navy had a Battleship shelling Dublin??? Never heard that before..
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 25 күн бұрын
It was officially protection ship that fired three pound shells at the GPO we like to big things up in Ireland. As a matter of interest it was passed over to the new Irish Free State and continued in service until I think the 1940s
@bridgetward9483
@bridgetward9483 7 жыл бұрын
YUPPA the Irish can't wit till we become a united nation
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 Жыл бұрын
Partition of Ireland was looking like a big likely by 1914.
@NoPasarxn
@NoPasarxn 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of information omitted, such as the fact James Connolly was tied to that chair. Such a loss
@skippership7
@skippership7 5 жыл бұрын
Corey Denning This is true, such as the fact that British doctors and nurses treated and cared for JC at Dublin Castle after the rising and the fact that the loudest voice calling for JC’s execution in 1916 was a bloody Irishman!
@jerrybergsteinbaum8008
@jerrybergsteinbaum8008 2 жыл бұрын
WHAT THE FUCK!? HEY BBC,HAVE YOU EVER MET AN IRISH PERSON?!
@skippership7
@skippership7 2 жыл бұрын
It may surprise you but some British people know a lot more about the Easter Rising than you do simply because it's our history as well as yours (albeit not a exactly a glorious one), which some Irish people tend to be forget.
@conorl9305
@conorl9305 8 жыл бұрын
People were delighted when the rebels got caught.
@ainemairead4542
@ainemairead4542 8 жыл бұрын
And America and the International Community were enraged when the "State. Sanctioned Murders" went Public... by the way Britan cheers for it because your blood thirsty arrogance "sealed the future of the IRISH REPUBLIC".. Slan
@Fernandwinnie
@Fernandwinnie 2 жыл бұрын
Scottish freedom next! Our Irish brothers are an inspiration 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪
@skippership7
@skippership7 2 жыл бұрын
Don't make me laugh, wasn't it one of your Scottish clansman who was responsible for these bloody executions and a PM who was put into power by the people of Scotland? So much for your "Irish brothers" eh.
@lucastaylor2321
@lucastaylor2321 2 жыл бұрын
Scotland was very much involved in the British Empire and the suppression of Ireland. Scottish independence is not the same.
@stallthedigger2599
@stallthedigger2599 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucastaylor2321 Yeah but a lot of Scots are descended from Irish Gaelic clans and besides the decisions of British foreign policy are made mostly by English nobility and upper class tory knob jockeys. The Scots or the Welsh on their own wouldn't have had the ability or the will to take on Ireland. Both of those nations are still under English influence as the Scottish and Welsh assemblies have similar powers to the Irish Home Rule bill in 1912. It's quite sad in my opinion that both countries seem to lack confidence to run themselves and seem content playing 2nd fiddle to England.
@lucastaylor2321
@lucastaylor2321 2 жыл бұрын
@@stallthedigger2599 Scotland is not the same as Ireland in being an occupied & downtrodden colony. Yes I agree with you that there are very strong reasons for Scotland to go independent... of course because of England’s size it has a strong influence over the rest of GB’s politics & foreign policy. But while England was very much the MAIN culprit of atrocities.... Scotland’s past role both in Ireland and in the empire should not be whitewashed either.
@Imyourhuckleberry01
@Imyourhuckleberry01 Жыл бұрын
The Scots sold their country to the English when they bankrupted themselves trying to build their own murderous empire in South America and had to crawling to London...Remember? or has that been forgotten. And didn't the Scots vote to stay in the Union just a few year ago? I rest my case.
@61505
@61505 8 жыл бұрын
at 3;16 BOTH.
@stephenkane1074
@stephenkane1074 4 жыл бұрын
Im not conflicted at all .... the birth of the Irish Republic is something worthy of celebration. A million dead at the Somme, not so much.
@martinlanigan9202
@martinlanigan9202 6 жыл бұрын
ordinary people lived in poverty over there I don't know what all this great place about Ireland is
@johnmcentegart8537
@johnmcentegart8537 4 жыл бұрын
Tragic
@Mmr_mn
@Mmr_mn 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here for school work?
@brigittegninewi1735
@brigittegninewi1735 Жыл бұрын
HISTORICAL CONTEXT ?
@tonybarde2572
@tonybarde2572 3 жыл бұрын
Ireland’s Bunker Hill
@patricklucey8850
@patricklucey8850 4 ай бұрын
The power of 'one'. No! .....why die in Flanders?
@BB-hz7sw
@BB-hz7sw Жыл бұрын
The bravest men in our history, may they rest in peace.
@johnhorton690
@johnhorton690 4 жыл бұрын
Only the Irish rugby team had the right idear
@globalnomad1221
@globalnomad1221 8 ай бұрын
And the war continues
@chrisgodson2692
@chrisgodson2692 Ай бұрын
RIP brave men. Get out of Ireland Britain so we can be a united country again
@dowdallerno1
@dowdallerno1 4 жыл бұрын
TAL.😥
@aaronnolan1653
@aaronnolan1653 4 жыл бұрын
This is an embarrassingly inaccurate take
@1948DESMOND
@1948DESMOND 7 жыл бұрын
only three quarters left the english empire. what about the other quarter, our oldest province. ?? if they use the ballot instead of the bullet, we could very well be reunited. but ...... are we all ready for reunification? up goes the cost of living, as in germany when THEY were reunited.
@JamesandDeeSmith
@JamesandDeeSmith 3 жыл бұрын
We would never have been reunited at that stage. Costs for German reunification are immaterial. Germany was two different independent economies joining to become one. Reunification of Ireland will involve a part of the UK leaving and joining Ireland. The UK would need to continue funding NI for an agreeable amount of time (state pensions, healthcare, etc were all paid to the UK purse and recompense would need to be agreed). Britain has created a subvention problem in NI mostly due to their pandering to unionists. The number of public servants would need to be significantly reduced and this would have to be paid for by Britain.
@liammacaodha4783
@liammacaodha4783 2 ай бұрын
I think this angle is accurate. The Irish civil war continues.
@neildonaghy123
@neildonaghy123 4 жыл бұрын
Ww1 ruined poppies
@PaddyWardeBand
@PaddyWardeBand 2 жыл бұрын
2:59 False
@taintabird23
@taintabird23 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@skyriderize
@skyriderize 6 жыл бұрын
The I s & the T s have'nt been dotted & crossed. In conflict such is the signature of success. Reparations are the light @ the end of the tunnel!
@61505
@61505 8 жыл бұрын
there are some inaccuracies and unprovable statements made in this broadcast and while it says Ireland has to take a good luck at itself, it never says Britain has to be sorry for its imperialism.....funny that.
@1948DESMOND
@1948DESMOND 7 жыл бұрын
england, not britain, has apologized for all the atrocities she carried out againts ALL her colonies, past and present. france has NEVER apologised to the muslims of algeria for beheading muslims who refused to become catholics. and today, the muslims are returning the compliment. i cannot imagine why.
@61505
@61505 7 жыл бұрын
no justification for mulims or anyone committing terrorist attacks ion France or anywhere else....
@JamesandDeeSmith
@JamesandDeeSmith 3 жыл бұрын
@@1948DESMOND Mainly due to ignorance and reciting a book in Arabic that they don't understand. This leaves interpretation of the teachings of the prophet open to manipulation by people who have extremist views.
@Sean-sn9ld
@Sean-sn9ld Жыл бұрын
"1916 created the divisions we see today" Ehh no it didnt 🙄
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 25 күн бұрын
As a gesture of solidarity Carson and the nationalist leader Redmond walked into Parliament Army arm to the cheers of everyone. Haven't seen anything like that between nationalists and unionists since.
@mackmccormack2670
@mackmccormack2670 2 жыл бұрын
BBC Newsnight Jeez' talk about biased, go way with ya.
@gifjrdjdb1787
@gifjrdjdb1787 8 жыл бұрын
That's my focus
@kg5653
@kg5653 8 жыл бұрын
delicately done. well done BBC
@willmcewan6068
@willmcewan6068 4 жыл бұрын
This is a skewed and disgraceful ant Irish account. What can one expect from the BBC?
@roscodabosco81
@roscodabosco81 4 жыл бұрын
The Irish Republican Brotherhood (IRB - forerunner of the IRA) was formed in response to the formation of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) in 1912. The importation of 30,000 firearms in the same year by the UVF at Larne showed the intentions of Unionists in opposing Home Rule. Bloody conflict was inevitable. The Proclamation advocates clearly the rights of all that live in this island, the gerrymandering and discrimination seen in the North of this island shows what they were revolting against.
@allisonalexander2269
@allisonalexander2269 4 жыл бұрын
1798: The Young Irelanders formed by Irish Protestant Theobold Wolfe Tone.
@pauliewalnuts100
@pauliewalnuts100 3 жыл бұрын
No the Irish Volunteers was formed in response to the Ulster Volunteers. The IRB had been around since the mid 19th century.
@JamesandDeeSmith
@JamesandDeeSmith 3 жыл бұрын
@@allisonalexander2269 Wolfe Tone being protestant has nothing to do with it. Some Protestants were nationalist. Some Catholics were unionists. The Irish freedom movement was not a religious crusade it was an independence movement.
@boston7704
@boston7704 7 күн бұрын
This is so tone deaf as to be unreal.
@neildonaghy123
@neildonaghy123 4 жыл бұрын
"imperialistic venture" was world war one. Deal with it
@muskrat477
@muskrat477 3 жыл бұрын
All handed to the EU...
@prog7141
@prog7141 3 жыл бұрын
Man shutcho ass up the EU is one of the best things that happened to this country
@mango2005
@mango2005 3 жыл бұрын
Part of sovereignty is the right to join international organisations. The UK has shown that EU member states can leave. Small countries have more influence as part of something bigger, but that cannot include an army shooting at us and discriminating against us as when we were part of the UK, I have no wish to leave the EU. I find the isolationism of much of England very offputting and am glad we are out of the UK so we are not being dragged out of the UK like Scotland.
@muskrat477
@muskrat477 3 жыл бұрын
@@prog7141 really, we've thrown away our independence, opened up our country to over 450 million people who see it as an economic hostel, austerity, abysmal fishing quotas in our own waters, neoliberalism, they've made a mockery of our democracy... Twice, this isn't the Ireland early Irish leaders wanted
@muskrat477
@muskrat477 3 жыл бұрын
@@mango2005 we joined a common market, the EU is a far far different animal, infact when we did get to vote on treaties we had to vote again until we gave the EU approved answer!
@normannormiemates4844
@normannormiemates4844 8 жыл бұрын
If Ireland hadn't gone at that time they could be in a similar position as the Scots today. Either go and apply to join the EU or stay ha ha
@Paulfieldz
@Paulfieldz 8 жыл бұрын
+T Riddle but then we would have been under british rule for another 100years - what are you fucking nuts!!
@normannormiemates4844
@normannormiemates4844 8 жыл бұрын
Paulfieldz an extra hundred years... a bonus. Instead of a century of civil war and corruption.
@pauliewalnuts100
@pauliewalnuts100 3 жыл бұрын
@@normannormiemates4844 Technically it's your civil war since Northern Ireland is part of the UK.
@glenng
@glenng 4 жыл бұрын
What isn't mentioned is that the `only' reason Irishmen joined the British army was for 2 reasons, one was because they feared Germany winning the war and Ireland under being German rule, hence the rebel slogan, "We Serve Neither King nor Kaiser". The other reason was because Britain promised Home Rule if Ireland helped them defeat Germany during WWI. The reason the 1916 Easter Rising happened was because the Brits reneged on that promise while 200,000 Irishmen who could have stayed at home and fought the British were killed in the trenches.
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 25 күн бұрын
They did not renege on the promise home rule passed into law in late 1914 it was only postponed with the agreement of all parties because of the war. Postponement was for a year or the duration of the war whichever was the shorter period. Nevertheless the organisation of a separate Irish administration which started in 1911 continued throughout the war so there was a civil service up and running for the Shinners to take over in 1922.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 4 жыл бұрын
They grabbed most of ireland when UK was distracted by WWI, they are trying for Ulster whilst UK is distracted by Brexit, Boris will regret his betrayal.
@ccody-long6915
@ccody-long6915 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't grab most of Ireland when Britain was focused in WW1. All they grabbed during WW1 was half of Dublin City Centre. The treaty that created the Free State and the North was signed three years after the armistice.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 4 жыл бұрын
@@ccody-long6915 You miss the point **sigh**
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreaoreill You can thank Varadkar and Coveney for all you got coming but you will have to wait till apples grow on the ivy tree before Ulster bends the knee.
@JamesandDeeSmith
@JamesandDeeSmith 3 жыл бұрын
@@asanulsterman1025 As an Ulsterman myself I can confirm your views are not that of Ulstermen, women or children. Boris didn't betray NI, the DUP did. Have a word with Foster, get your facts straight and grow up.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesandDeeSmith Welcome Ulsterman. Ulster has been betrayed as we did not get the vote on change mandated in International Law by the Belfast Agreement. My Ulster is a nation of iconoclasts prepared to go against the trend and fight for what they believe is right. My Ulster is not green or orange it is both. My Ulster is descended from the Kingdom of Ulster with links to Scotland, Ireland, England, USA (sorry Wales). My Ulster is a free independent country outside the EU. All Ulstermen are welcome in my Ulster but please leave off the old religious/tribal/party hostilities.
@lukegamble5620
@lukegamble5620 4 жыл бұрын
My family had a farm in cavan my great granny and grandfather where brought up a alleyway to be shot by ira but in time black and tans shot them of course Never paid us for farm which I think is unfair cause other way round they'd cry there eyes out if we did its on there graves and lived happy after till forced to north with nothing!! But farming is in the blood and I think they deserve It back never no payment made??
@seanmacuaiteir437
@seanmacuaiteir437 4 жыл бұрын
Made up story
@JamesandDeeSmith
@JamesandDeeSmith 3 жыл бұрын
Farming is in the blood but clearly punctuation and grammar are not. Your ancestors forced north how about the thousands of Ulster people who were housed in refugee tents and forced south? If the shoe were on the other foot and your ancestors were Catholic farmers in NI they would have been burned out of their farm and probably killed. You look for payment? How much did they pay for the land when they were given it?
@doxholiday1372
@doxholiday1372 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually fortunate that the Easter Rising wasn't successful, considering what most likely would have been done to the country had the Internationalists subverted the revolution and seized power. "Notable amongst the revolutionaries were Robert Briscoe, an IRA Captain and the first Jewish member of the Dail Eirann (the Irish Parliament) and Michael Noyk who worked closely with the revolutionary leader Michael Collins." "Fanny and Molly Goldberg joined the revolutionary Cumann na mBan (Women’s IRA) and did everything but shoot: hiding IRA soldiers, nursing and marching." "On the other side of the political divide was notably the leader of Belfast’s community Sir Otto Jaffe. The divide at times was between families and communities: often Jewish families straddled what would become the north-south divide. (On 21 January 1874, Otto's father, Daniel Joseph Jaffe died in Nice. Martin Jaffe [Otto's elder brother] secured a plot in the City Cemetery, which became the Jewish Cemetery. Daniel Jaffe was the first Jew to be interred there. -Wikipedia) jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/opinion-the-jewish-role-in-the-easter-rising/ “The revolution in Russia is a Jewish revolution” -The Maccabean (New York), Nov. 1905, p, 250 “Russian Jews have taken a prominent part in the Bolshevist movement” -The American Hebrew (New York), November 18, 1927, p. 20 “Karl Marx, who came from an old family of rabbis and brilliant Talmudic scholars, was to point the path of victory for the proletariat.” L. Rennap, Anti-Semitism and the Jewish Question (London, 1942), p. 31 “The communist soul is the soul of Judaism.” -Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 143 “Some call it Marxism - I call it Judaism.” -Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, in the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935 "The English (or French or American, etc.) patriotism of the Jew is only a fancy-dress which he puts on to please the people of the country." - The Jewish World, December 8, 1911. "The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people." - Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919. "The governments of the peoples included in this world republic, with the aid of the victorious proletariat, all will fall without difficulty into Jewish hands. Private property will then be strangled by the Jewish directors, who will administer the state patrimony everywhere. Thus the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled, that is, the promise that the Jews, at the arrival of the Messiah, will possess the key to the wealth of all the peoples of the earth." - Baruch Levy, in a letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild controlled La Revue de Paris, June 1, 1928. "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism (Communism) itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism." - The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1919. "We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole, everything is Jewdified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over the world. We are the Lords." - Dr. Kurt Munzer, The Way to Zion. "Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race." - Rabbi Stephen Wise, N.Y. Herald-Tribune, June 13, 1938. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." -- Maurice Samuel, 'You Gentiles'
@kevindoyle1884
@kevindoyle1884 4 жыл бұрын
The British view is totally usless and warped, home rule was never going to be given to the Irish, we had to do something to shown our dissatisfaction to be part of a neglegent tryranical empire that had let over a million die and forced a million more to leave our land during the great famine
@seanochroidheain6687
@seanochroidheain6687 9 ай бұрын
Lots of Brit half truths in this
@skippership7
@skippership7 8 ай бұрын
Like what for example?
@skippership7
@skippership7 5 ай бұрын
I ask again, like what for example?
@neildonaghy123
@neildonaghy123 4 жыл бұрын
Propaganda
@nbenefiel
@nbenefiel 5 жыл бұрын
This is the most negative view of the Irish rebellion I’ve ever seen. I don’t look to the BBC for an unbiased report. Without the rebellion Ireland would still be a part of Britain and she would still be poverty stricken.
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 25 күн бұрын
It was poverty stricken until the 1990s when the EU started pumping money in.
@nbenefiel
@nbenefiel 25 күн бұрын
@@freebeerfordworkers Ireland decided in the 1950’s to put everything it had into education. This created a highly educated base which attracted foreign business.
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 25 күн бұрын
@@nbenefiel No question - another attraction was a rather imaginative tax setup which the EU is not entirely happy with.
@stpat7614
@stpat7614 6 жыл бұрын
When Gerry Adams sings the praises of the Rising (and calls the Battle of the Somme an imperialist adventure) you have to call the Rising into question.
@stpat7614
@stpat7614 3 жыл бұрын
@Northern Lad So it was. But the Rising and the Somme were two sides of the same coin. Nationalist slogans and references to God being used to rationalise bloodshed.
@gifjrdjdb1787
@gifjrdjdb1787 8 жыл бұрын
Guys stop arguing and just enjoy life. The past is the past. We can't change it so let's move on. Have fun, drink, shag and be merry. Yere
@johnfalconer5778
@johnfalconer5778 4 жыл бұрын
Guilty English propaganda, Jolly bad show what old chap?
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