EASY Cassette Removal on a Bike Tour! // Stein Mini Cassette Lock Tool Review

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The Stein Mini Cassette Lock Tool is a compact and beautifully machined tool that makes cassette removal on the road a breeze.
The conventional tools required to remove a cassette and bulky, heavy and awkward to carry on a bike - but the Stein Tool completely solves this issue.
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0:00 - Intro
0:43 - Cassette Removal Scenario
1:49 - Stein Tool Overview
2:36 - Demonstration
7:11 - Final Thoughts
8:30 - Outro
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@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

The Stein Mini Lockring Tool has found itself a permanent home in my bike touring toolkit. Would you guys carry one of these?

@kieranbarry8193 8 ай бұрын

simple answer: yes!

@nigelnightmare4160 8 ай бұрын

YES!!!

@jimijj8325 8 ай бұрын

Clever little tool. I can't say I have ever encountered a situation where I needed to remove a cassette in the last 15 years and 150k miles of riding. I have had one instance where I needed to tighten a loose cassette lockring but never needed to remove one. That being said, I can totally see the value in this for those who ride long distance, multi day trips without access to a fully stocked garage/shop.

@-IE_it_yourself 8 ай бұрын

in 15 yeas as a messenger i never had my cassette loosen. but that would be the only viable reason i could see for this too. im not trying to be a hater, and i was scratching my head for a while on this one, and yours is the only situation that makes sense. and the only time i ever head of a cassette getting loose.

@ridethelakes 8 ай бұрын

So many people missing the point here. Its not designed to replace the chain whip and cassette tool, its a lightweight alternative for emergency use that could save half a kilo. The Unior version comes with a plastic protectice piece so can be used on aluminium.

@rob-c. 8 ай бұрын

Incredible isn’t it? 😅 Why can’t people see that if you are touring you might not want to carry a full size chain whip, lockring tool and wrench? And even if you said, ‘well those things aren’t heavy’, you then have to apply their original logic and take a full size track pump, because it’s better than mini pump, a full set of t-handle hex keys, because they are better than a mini tool etc… do this for everything and you’ll need to also fit a trailer to lug the kitchen sink around.

@morg52 8 ай бұрын

This little tool has saved my butt several times!

@CanyonWanderer 8 ай бұрын

Wow, very smart tool! Before watching the video and having seen the tool, I was really wondering how it would work. Never knew it could fit over the lock ring, very smart. Thanks for the warning about not using it on Carbon frames 🙂, that makes a lot of sense. But what a weight saver on a steel bike-packing bike!

@chrisedie2307 8 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the Hypercracker which was eventually replaced by Next Best Thing.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Exactly! I meant to mention the Hypercracker, but didn't bother for some reason. Thanks for commenting! 😁

@brokenspine66 8 ай бұрын

I have a Pamir Hypercracker for 30 years. I maybe used it ones but to have that thing on a tour gives a peace of mind, with it's longer lever it even works not bad for simply changing a cassette.

@smith971 8 ай бұрын

I bought a Hypercracker in 1991 before doing two fully loaded tours that year covering 7K miles. It worked flawlessly and it was a good thing because I ended up replacing nearly all the spokes on the cheaply made rear wheel. The item reviewed here looks to be excellent.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

@@smith971 - Great to hear, Karl! Thanks so much for sharing!

@gfelkner Ай бұрын

My Hypercracker is well travelled and seldom used, but is worth it's weight in gold when needed.

@paths2go 8 ай бұрын

great invention

@paule.maurice1521 8 ай бұрын

Looks Great best I've seen

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

It's really good! ♥️

@LiveAndLetBike 8 ай бұрын

Looks a good tool, always thought their must be a better/ lighter way to remove the cassette. Thanks for explaining it (and all your other topics) in an easy and interesting way. Enjoy your vids, thanks.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Thank-you so much! It really is a wonderful piece of gear!

@-IE_it_yourself 8 ай бұрын

@@doublewhopper67 thanks for the giggle.

@henriclouisemeldgard5048 7 ай бұрын

When I used Shimano hubs I carried a Pamir cassette cracker ,same principle, in case you broke a drive side spoke. Now I use DT Swiss 350 hubs…you can pull the cassette and freehub off by hand with no tools required. Makes wheel repair or hub service easy.

@michaelismichael4640 8 ай бұрын

Fascinating tool!!! I'd never heard of it!! What a great idea.

@michaelismichael4640 8 ай бұрын

Dave do you think there's a risk of affecting the derailleur hanger, especially given where you had to use the tool against?

@larry4674 8 ай бұрын

@@michaelismichael4640 According to the Stein website, they recommend keeping away from the derailleur hanger... From their site: "Because the derailleur hangers of many frames are quite weak, do not let the mini lock react against the derailleur hanger during installation or removal or frame damage may occur! Instead, assemble the Mini LOCK in the position shown in the bottom photo. " steintool.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/How2_MiniCassLockTool-1.pdf

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

You have to be careful that you're NOT pushing the tool against the hanger - you'll notice that I always place the tool in specific positions to avoid hitting the hanger. That would be bad! 😅

@hookerjl1 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for showing the stein tool and linking to their website…really cool tools😎

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

You're very welcome! Jim makes some great stuff!

@billkallas1762 8 ай бұрын

Reminds me of a tiny little tool for removing the outside spin on cog on Shimano Uniglide 6,7, and early 8 speed Uniglide cassettes and freehubs. The smallest cog spun on the hub, to hold on the rest. It had a short piece of chain connected to a hook that hooked onto the chainstay. It worked basically the same as the thing you used.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Oh wow, that's really cool. I'm going to look that up and see it in action! Thanks for commenting!

@ianlindridge5378 8 ай бұрын

I carried the fibre spokes on my tours & the whip/socket/spanner. This is a nice replacement for the weightier stuff. Fibre spoke for on the road and the tools for the evening stop repair. Still had to carry all the stuff tho'..........This was a good video, thanks and a good tip to remove the cassette and replace "loosely" before your trip.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Cheers Ian!

@genuinelunch 8 ай бұрын

wow! awesome!

@Mike-tf9rx 8 ай бұрын

Very nice thank you.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

You're very welcome, Mike!

@ianfurqueron5850 8 ай бұрын

Funny how this video popped up in my feed a few days after I ordered the Wolftooth lightweight removal tools. That said, thanks for the warning about not using it on carbon frames. But I still may get one of these as my preferred touring frame material is titanium, which I would imagine should be fine.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Wolftooth make awesome stuff! I'm sure titanium would be fine and you can always use the included protective plastic for aluminum frames with it just to be sure!

@RidingEasttoWest 4 ай бұрын

I took a small light Park 13/15mm double ended cone wrench (you could use any small wrench you are already carrying) and just drilled a hole in it and attached about 8 old chain links with a small screw through the hole to make a small light weight chain wip. Then I took the regular lock ring tool and drilled a hole through it so I could turn it with a 6mm hex key. This allowed me to just do this job, if necessary, without all that fuss or potentially breaking something important like my frame. Was it a bit heavier, yeah sure, but I was already carrying the wrench and the hex key so the weight penalty was basically the 8 chain links and the difference in weight between the regular lock ring tool and the Stein or similar, so just a few grams. Before leaving on tour I just made sure the lock ring wasn't gorilla-ed on there so I'd be able to loosen it with my setup that doesn't have quite the leverage of the full size tools.

@VeloObscura 3 ай бұрын

Pretty ingenious solution! I think your comments on weight are relevant though - this things main value proposition is that it's TINY and weighs next to nothing. In my experience, cassette removal is a task that is so seldom required that I'd rather just put up with the occasional fiddleyness of a tool like this in exchange for the space and weight savings - but I'm sure many would disagree and opt for ergonomics instead. I'm actually considering swapping this one out for the NBT-2, which is much cheaper and I think will actually work really well with the sliding dropouts on my bikepacking rig. Guess I'll find out and post a video when I know! Thanks for commenting!

@RidingEasttoWest 3 ай бұрын

@@VeloObscura Sure - I'm not bikepacking just standard road touring with panniers so the few extra grams are not an issue for me. I find the weight I'm carrying on the bike changes day to day more than the weight of this thing based upon how much food and water I'm carrying. Regardless, the most important thing in either case is to make sure you know how you are going to use whatever tools you bring otherwise they are all just dead weight. I do a lot of my own wrenching so I sat down and seriously thought about what the top 10 most likely failures would be, whether they were things that I could realistically expect to fix on the side of the road or in some BLM campground, and what tools I should then assemble to do those jobs. Many of the folks I run across just carry a multi-tool, patch kit, and pump and believe they will some how be able to "MacGyver" their way out of anything knowing little about how their bikes actually work.

@Sevon071122 8 ай бұрын

Grear little tool! I gotta ask tho, where is that "please stand by" poster from? I saw one on redbubble but it looks a bit different. Thanks

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! I can't remember where I got it from. It may well have been Red Bubble! Perhaps they don't make it anymore? Cheers!

@craigsmith5134 8 ай бұрын

That looks like a really good way to buy yourself a new frame.

@craigsmith5134 8 ай бұрын

Ok, after the disclaimer. Good enough ;)

@blauesKopftuch 8 ай бұрын

Looks like an improoved version of the "Next Best Thing 2 lockring remover" where you had to have the tool in the right orientation relative to the rear dropout, while installing the rear wheel.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Yep, just another variation on that design. 👍

@TeddyBearFarmer 8 ай бұрын

Thanks 😁

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@aemediainc 8 ай бұрын

Genius

@larry4674 8 ай бұрын

Hey Dave, thanks for this. I've seen videos about this in the past, but have been a bit unsure about how effective it would be. My last tour, I took along a wrench, cassette removal tool and chain whip and it was a lot of weight and bulk, especially since I didn't need to use it. But, I felt I needed to take them since I had been having issues with spokes breaking on the drive side of the rear wheel. It would be nice to drop the weight and bulk of those tools. I do have an aluminum frame, however, but I'm not sure how it could be damaged by using this tool, as long as the forces applied are not overdone and are increased gradually. Are you thinking that the frame could be damaged by a sudden jerk of the wheel while the tool is in place? Again, thanks for all your videos. Love your presentation style. Very clear and concise! :)

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, mate! To be honest, I'm just going off what I've been told. I think aluminum MIGHT be ok, but the maker of this tool (and the other similar ones) recommend only using it on steel frames. There is actually a black piece of plastic that comes with the tool that you can put between the little "peg" and your frame to help spread the pressure, so perhaps using that might make it safer for use on an aluminum frame. This video was actually my first time ever using the tool and once I'd figured out how to get everything in place, it was remarkably easy! Cheers!

@LiveAndLetBike 8 ай бұрын

To larry/dave, just thought, here in uk you can get 'fibre fix'...it's a composite special string that can be used as an emergency spoke. Ideal for replacing a cassette side back wheel spoke on the road (very light & approx £10, I've got one for tours! Never used it yet but know the principle.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

@@LiveAndLetBike - Yes, the I know the FibreFix well! Unfortunately the FibreFix isn't a permanent solution and on a long-term bike trip it's better just to fix with a regular spoke and be done with it. However, it's a great solution for shorter trips where it can be enough to get you home. They're a really great piece of kit.

@jnxmck 8 ай бұрын

Wow, a lot of people totally missing the point of this tool in the comments! Looks good to me, and as someone who only rides steel bikes I might grab one for my frame bag.

@-IE_it_yourself 8 ай бұрын

i am missing that point, yes.

@LiveAndLetBike 8 ай бұрын

Look into 'fibre fix' spokes for back cassette side spokes to replace on road! In uk cost £10. If you got one it would be good for a vid!

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm familiar with the FibreFix! I might pick one up for review, but I don't really want to take any spokes out to test it... 😅

@felipenavas 8 ай бұрын

You can use just a chain to hold the cassette. Put something to protect the tire (clothes or a stick) them put the chain over it and wrap the both ends around the cassete. Just take care to arrange it not touch the spokes. I use that and a breaker bar to release a stucked centerlock.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

I don't tend to take a breaker bar with me on extended bicycle tours! 😅

@davidburgess741 8 ай бұрын

I have this tool but have luckily not used it. It's presence has been a talisman against broken spokes! A spoke that fits 3 of 4 wheel sides is taped to my low rider front rack, spoke key in bag. 28 spokes for a heavy rider on a heavy touring bike is a bit concerning. I need to build a 36 spoke wheel for this over the winter.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Haha, a talisman! Love it! 28 spokes would definitely have me worried too! Cheers.

@halukokur4189 8 ай бұрын

I have the Hypercracker, much less fiddly.

@Alan_Hans__ 8 ай бұрын

The tool is cool but I love the massive range on your cassette even more.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Haha, thanks. It's a Microshift Advent X system with a 11-48t cassette. 10 Speeds, so pretty big jumps in theory, but I don't really notice it. I suppose you get used to it! It's a very cheap system, but allows you to run drop bars with a 1x system with plenty of range. I run it with a 34t chainring. Cheers!

@Alan_Hans__ 8 ай бұрын

I thought that my 11-40 was a pretty wide range. As someone who is on the wrong side of 100kg and who has no flat areas anywhere near him I would love to get a cassette with that range.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

@@Alan_Hans__ - They just released their new "Sword" drivetrain. It looks amazing. Much more refined than this old Advent system.

@Kevin75668 8 ай бұрын

Maybe I'm missing something here, but isn't this just a fancy cnc version of the Hypercracker?

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Just another variation of the same sort of thing.

@mikeski7ify 7 ай бұрын

What's the name of the rear rack?

@VeloObscura 7 ай бұрын

That's a Carradice Bagman with the optional support struts. 👍

@elterago 7 ай бұрын

Действительно, гениальный инструмент. Я снимаю фривил, зажав колесо в тиски. Бывает, что путаю в какую сторону крутить. А тут никак не ошибешься.

@reflectionsdetail 8 ай бұрын

I would think that the lever needs a larger diameter for increased durability. Sometimes the lockring is tight or frozen

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

That's why in the video I talk about making sure your lockring is OK before setting off on a trip with this.

@props651 8 ай бұрын

I spy a Hotline decal🙌🏽

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

I have the "I give Cyclists a Bad Name" one on my chainstay. Terry B is a legend! 😁

@edrubin6042 7 ай бұрын

Stein tools are lovely but spendy. I've broken a few drive side spokes so I see the value of a pocket lock ring tool, and a Fiberfix emergency spoke. I'm also poor and cheap so I carry a $7.99 US Unior tool and not a $40.00 US Stein.

@VeloObscura 7 ай бұрын

Oh wow! I didn't realise the Unior was so cheap! I definitely prefer the design of both the NBT-2 and the Stein to the Unior, but it's hard to beat at that price!

@aggese 8 ай бұрын

could you leave this installed all the time? of course without the part sticking out?` would make it a lot easier and less fiddly to get it one if you can do it when you first install the caset.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

I have considered it, but I don't think it would be a good idea. I think it would rattle and possible rub on your dropouts, which would remove paint and maybe even material over time.

@chrisdonges 8 ай бұрын

That looks useful but scary. Glad I am not a bike tourer and using the regular tools are the best option...

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

It was definitely scary to use for the first time!

@ulrishx 7 ай бұрын

If this is meant to be carried for emergency use seems to be a good tool, as a Roadbike and MTBer, I have never been in the situation to have to change a cassette in the ride.

@VeloObscura 7 ай бұрын

This tool is designed for people to take on long bikepacking or bike touring trips to remote locations where there are no bike shops. I wouldn't take the cassette off on my morning ride either 😅

@birmingben 7 ай бұрын

Just wait until you have to remove the cassette from a DIY e-bike. Because of the extra torque from the motor the cassette becomes practically welded in place, it's the equivalent to removing a cassette from a bike that's been left outside in all weather and unused for 25 years. it would be interesting to see how this tool handles more extreme scenarios like I mentioned. It seems this tool may be better than trying to keep the traditional cassette socket tool flush while hitting it with a sledge hammer and or getting an overweight relative to stand and the spanner while you hold the chain whip.

@VeloObscura 7 ай бұрын

Do NOT use this tool on a cassette that you suspect is stuck in place. It is NOT designed for high-torque applications. You will most likely damage the frame! Before leaving on a bike trip where you may use this tool, you should always first check that the lockring isn't too tight by using conventional tools. That being said, once you've done that it shouldn't matter whether you're on an ebike or even if you just have incredible hulk thighs. Torque is not applied to the lockring while pedaling and you shouldn't have any issues removing it. Just make sure you put a little bit of grease on the threads before you put it on.

@birmingben 7 ай бұрын

@@VeloObscura LOL chill out, I was just saying it would be INTERESTING to see how this tool handles more stubborn and hard to remove rear cassettes. And also, torque is indeed inadvertently applied to the lock ring of the rear cassette by an e-bike motor because of the knocking effect of the motor kicking in as it initially pulls the chain, (especially from a stand still in a high gear) this is hard to explain unless you've ever ridden and used a high wattage e-bike motor without a smooth start function which you may well have done? I appreciate the advice but telling/advising a bicycle fanatic to grease his threads is a bit like telling an IT specialist to turn his computer on and off again. I mean no offence by this and I'm always concerned that comments like the one I'm writing right now can come across as snarky or irritable when they are just words on a screen, but in real life this would be a mostly playful back and forth misunderstanding or slight disagreement etc.

@VeloObscura 7 ай бұрын

I AM chill, mate. Like you say: Tone doesn't come across in text. I was just trying to save you from wrecking your frame. If you want to try this, then go ahead - I've done my part! 😅

@XCRiders 8 ай бұрын

Good by

@Omnis2 8 ай бұрын

When you have headset spacers in your ears, that's true street cred. (Sorry for the asshole comment! 😅Neat tool)

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

I'm a trendsetter 😅

@derf9465 8 ай бұрын

Had the same cassette tool 25years. Still works. Sorry capitalism

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Love it! That testimonial is worth far more than this video! Thanks so much for commenting!

@sprousaTM 8 ай бұрын

Nice tool, though I am trying to find reasons why I would want to take of my cassette on a bike tour. All of the reasons to take of the cassette tend to be major repairs anyways and I do not carry spare cogs or freehub body parts with me.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

My last tour went on for about 6 months. During that time I needed to replace a worn out cassette. I also broke drive-side spokes that required removing the cassette to access.

@dakalla 8 ай бұрын

With a Dt swiss hub you can remove the whole freehub body together with the cassette without tools. Just in case you want to put some fresh grease or need to repair a spoke. There are also other hubs that work like that.

@captainvlog 8 ай бұрын

I'm curious how many people have needed to replace their cassette mid ride.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

People who are on a really long multi-month ride. I replaced my cassette three times on an 11,000km ride around Australia.

@MJ-tz8cq 8 ай бұрын

seems to me, that this might not work with ThruAxle bikes

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Yes, this is something I've considered! I think you may be right about that, but the only bike I have with thru axles isn't one I could use with this. I'll let you know if I find out, but until then: Let's assume not.

@MJ-tz8cq 8 ай бұрын

great thank you @@VeloObscura

@imlach4318 8 ай бұрын

I do not think that's a particularly good solution. I see the point of losing a few tools and replacing it with one but... 1) it looks fiddly and therefor adds additional work time to something that should take less than one minute to do. 2) a lockring should ideally be 45 nm and if I have to run it less than that to use this tool I don't see the point 3) you can get quite minimal cassette whips and I use a tool with campag and shimano splines that's built into one piece, meaning I don't need the lockring tool and an adjustable wrench I do think it's neat how compact thst little tool is though but I think unless you're doing ultralight bikepacking, a conventional tool is better as it's faster and you have more control over what you're doing.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

I don't think the fiddliness is an issue as, I don't know about you, but I'm not taking my cassette off on a daily basis. The conventional tools are definitely easier to use, but I'd much rather deal with a bit of fiddling that carry those on a tour like I have previously. The torque rating on the lockring is quite a contentious issue. Although it states 42nm, I've talked to a few bike mechanics who think that is unnecessary. I can't say myself, but I suppose I'll find out in time if there is an issue with not tightening it to that rating. I guess it probably comes down to personal preference and for me the shortcomings are worth it! Thanks for commenting!

@imlach4318 8 ай бұрын

@@VeloObscura I'm not denying that the compactness of it is very appealing. I may get it sometime and test it, but since I don't mind having the tools with me, it probably isn't a product aimed at someone like me. In terms of fiddliness it's probably just my own mental hangup. A lot of my old klunkers have slightly wider hubs than needed, some I've coldset, but others I wrestle to get in and if this mimics that pain I'd rather carry the extra parts. I might not mind it in the comfort of at home tinkering, but if I was out in the woods and it was a bit muddy and wet I'm not sure I'd like this product if it makes it additionally finicky. Anyhow I enjoyed the video and shall consider getting it sometime. I bought the tyre levers you tested a while back, finally (does one say finally in this context?) got a flat so will get to test it. Thanks for replying to me Chris

@imlach4318 8 ай бұрын

@@janeblogs324 as a way of quickly unlacing the wheel? 🤣

@chriswright9096 8 ай бұрын

@@VeloObscura Interesting. The force is applied to the frame (eg chainstay) about 5cm from center so 42Nm represents around 900N at that point. Definitely wouldn't want to apply that to a carbon frame, as you clearly said.

@trukdeouf7519 16 күн бұрын

why put in your ear ?

@ps3customgamer 8 ай бұрын

No chance one of these is going near my dropouts

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Chicken 🐔 😆

@adyjclarke 8 ай бұрын

Using that on a carbon frame would scare me

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Yes, this tool is definitely NOT intended for use on carbon frames..... If you do it, please upload a video for entertainment purposes!

@joehiatt1992 8 ай бұрын

Kinda good idea BUT I could see this damaging hangers & chainstays & dropouts for me not worth it

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Only if you don't use it incorrectly.

@erospersonal3 8 ай бұрын

Very cumbersome

@frankstrobel4350 7 ай бұрын

steel frame...Al frame... yes. carbon frame ? I dont know.

@VeloObscura 7 ай бұрын

Don't ever use this on a carbon frame. I addressed that in the video. 👍

@frankstrobel4350 7 ай бұрын

Ok…I missed it then. Cool device though.

@VeloObscura 7 ай бұрын

It is! 😁

@l.d.t.6327 8 ай бұрын

A simple 3 euro LIFU lockring tool, a 22mm wrench you find in every garage workshop around the world and your chain is all you need. Ofcourse emergencies can happen but usually the body and cassette aren't the parts that suddenly fail in the middle of nowhere.

@bobwilliamson5574 8 ай бұрын

You could almost carry one of these tools in your earlobe 😂.

@AndrewSlim 8 ай бұрын

Very usefull tool to destroy my carbon frame, thank you.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Perhaps you should have watched the part of the video where I explained that this tool is not for use on carbon frames or even checked the manufacturer's website that states the same.

@00networker 8 ай бұрын

Not being funny good idea there but why am i going to take my wheel off to put it back on if i have the tools while my wheels off 😂😂

@rob-c. 8 ай бұрын

“if”. I think you answered your own question…

@romanizhikov3664 8 ай бұрын

Useful but really expensive and dangerous if used improperly (they should really put an engraving that it is strictly for steel). USD 40 (in fact, USD 45 + taxes and shipping) can get you a decent portable pump or even a new cassette. Out of all the situations where you have to remove the cassette while on tour, most of those would require just the cassette key itself: a chain whip can be replaced with the bike chain and a wrench can be sourced out of a common mech shop / from a truck driver.

@SEproducti0n 8 ай бұрын

So many steps and risk of crushing your frame or paint damage. Just why?

@SuperMixedd 8 ай бұрын

I don’t really need to tighten the lock ring manually it’s self tightening as your ride

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

I don't think it would self tighten unless it was reverse threaded, but it's hurting my brain to figure out how exactly it would work... I'd love to see a video confirmation of "self-tightening" - but otherwise, I'll stick to tightening it! 👍

@SuperMixedd 8 ай бұрын

ok sorry i might be wrong i might have confused it with the crank arms. I also had a terrible experience once trying to unscrew a lock ring which was really tight and i thought it must have been the effect of the constant tightening torque

@iammarkstewart 8 ай бұрын

@@SuperMixedd Or you might have been thinking of a freewheel, where the whole gear cluster is one piece w/bearings etc and threads directly onto the hub. That will tighten as you ride. Old ones are particularly hard to get off. Cassette lockrings are supposed to be @40Nm torque but keen rider mechanics who check their gear often can get away with less, and that would make this tool much more useful.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Good info, Mark!

@-IE_it_yourself 8 ай бұрын

i cant think of a single time i needed to change a cassette on the go...

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

This tool is designed for people who are on long, multi-month bike tours.

@-IE_it_yourself 8 ай бұрын

@@VeloObscura riiight, this is true i dont ride on the weekends. but as a working bike messenger and ex mechanic, who rides 8 hours a day workweeks. a cassette will last the better part of 5 months. and if a shop has a cassette for sale, they would have to tool, and if they for some reason didnt... i still wouldn't carry a cassette with me for multiple months, on the off chance. (not to forget you need a chain and chain rings and in sometimes you might need to pull your cranks, and now would be a good time for derailleur cables) this tool is not for me. may i ask do you carry a spare cassette? or needed one and the LBS where you bought it was unable to install it?

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

I'm not talking about people who go for a ride on the weekend. It's for people who are traveling by bike for months at a time through remote areas, don't have access to bike shops and are trying to travel light, so would rather carry this than a chain whip etc. There are 2 times where I've taken my cassette off while cycling around Australia: The first was to replace it, but I do not carry a cassette with me. I ordered a new cassette online and had it mailed to an address I was going to be at in a couple of weeks time and then replaced it when I got there. The second was to replace a drive-side spoke, which was impossible to do without removing the cassette first. I DO carry spare spokes. A cassette may not last as long as you think when cycling 3000km a month through rain, mud, dust, sand and all other imaginable conditions - and even then, replacement is not the only reason to remove it.

@-IE_it_yourself 8 ай бұрын

@@VeloObscura for spokes that is a good point. for the record i wasnt talking about weekend warriors either. i was just saying i do the same kms (2500km per month) and this problem never came up.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Unless you're doing those 2500km in a remote area, far from any bike shops, then it's not really relevant. This tool is for people who are doing those kilometres in far flung, remote locations.

@MartinTeerly 8 ай бұрын

I'm ok with old technique 😂😂😂

@christerohlsson9034 8 ай бұрын

You could have changed 3 cassettes with the tool you should use

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Missing the point. 👍

@kieranbarry8193 8 ай бұрын

completely! @@VeloObscura

@londo776 8 ай бұрын

i will still use my chain whip still a lot quicker

@andy-the-gardener 8 ай бұрын

useful for saving weight. but you can see why its never become a popular method. its not really any easier as you have to remove the wheel [3 times] and it will also damage the paint on the frame. if you cant use it on aluminium either, its useless for almost all bikes!

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

You can use it with aluminium bikes by implementing the included protective plate. This tool is for touring cyclists, many (if not most) of whom will be riding steel bikes. There are many large companies such as Surly who ONLY make steel bikes and do so by the thousand. In a workshop, of course you will use a chain whip etc... but this tool (and video) was created for people who are travelling by bike and do not have access to a full workshop.

@fredhenderson6303 8 ай бұрын

There's an old saying. If it ain't broken don't fix it. Novelty tool

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

There's an old saying. Necessity is the mother of invention. Useful tool

@rob-c. 8 ай бұрын

If it ‘ain’t broke’ then you wouldn’t need to remove the cassette 😅

@iamcyberpunk68 7 ай бұрын

silly just do it as always people.

@marsruarua594 8 ай бұрын

Too much time wasted, sorry but the design is flawed. It is slow and dangerous to modern road bokes( carbon). I can change my cassette less than 5 seconds with the normal chain whip. Not a bad idea but need some work.

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

The instructions state, as do I in the video, that this tool isn't for use on carbon.

@rob-c. 8 ай бұрын

Why do you have a lightweight carbon bike but then carry a chain, whip, lock ring nut and spanner round the world with you?

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

🤣

@ssss-nk1mh 8 ай бұрын

Braucht kein Mensch viel zu umständlich!!!! Und wer repariert seine Kassette unterwegs????

@stuartpotter4923 8 ай бұрын

That's utter genius! Also going to add 'ferniggle' to my verb vocabulary :-) (@oldsteelguy)

@VeloObscura 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, Stu! I discovered this kind of tool a few years ago after speaking to a seasoned around-the-world tourer about what tools he carried. He had traveled with a chain whip etc, but had been eyeing the NBT-2. Somehow I stumbled across this variation - super clever stuff! Thanks for dropping by and commenting, mate!