This $2 LED bargraph kit is intended for audio applications. But it's got issues :) Help support Julian's electronic kit build videos: / julian256
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@shiladityaray31377 жыл бұрын
There is something satisfying about seeing knowledgeable people speak & work.....Same is with you Sir.....
@nkp58457 жыл бұрын
These bargraph displays were the rage in the 80s. I remember buying the Mosfet amp kits from Maplin's in Hammersmith and adding a pair of these for power output indication. There is also a LM3916 with VU meter levels.
@sarah13907 жыл бұрын
Funny. I bought one of these kits back in October and for some strange reason it did not arrive until January. Also I have been unable to put the kit together as I was also waiting on the mail to deliver some soldering iron tips that I could not purchase at a local store in my home town. Glad I can see it put together before I put mine together.
@californiakayaker7 жыл бұрын
i like this video VERY MUCH because, as a broadcast engineer, I have seen bar graph representations used in many different ways. One of my favorites is the setups which divide the audio spectrum into many different parts, frequency bands, and have a bar graph for each. Much time was used to make them truly representative of the spectrum. Then, one engineer would take a special type of noise generator and would show representations of the flatness of various parts of the system, including microphones and other parts. He was spending most of his time with FM stations. So, with about 10 of these you could build such a device.
@richardboyce49217 жыл бұрын
Definitely Pink Floyd. Who doesn't love Floyd. Great video Julian, like these kit builds please keep them coming.
@MrJamesbowen7 жыл бұрын
I always found this projects fun connecting them to the HDD activity LED and the LED activity of my Network card. This was a day when I was into PC case modding.
@Shiba6437 жыл бұрын
I suppose this is good for your channel, but you always leaving me wanting more :) I want to see the rectification circuit!
@TekkGnostic7 жыл бұрын
I bought a couple of the raw chips for $1 awhile, pretty simple schematic depending how much control you want and easy to build on a prototyping board. The wiring can be tedious is the only tricky bit, as you need a connection per-LED.
@jeffmerlin25807 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Pink Floyds "Breathe" was the one that popped into my mind after the first two chords (16:48). I love Pink Floyd!
@lordjoshuarobindumbleton2757 жыл бұрын
Jeff Merlin I had the same thought 🙂
@joinedupjon7 жыл бұрын
Me too - but of course I was expecting it to sound like 'feel the noize'
@simonhopkins38677 жыл бұрын
Julian likes a bit of Pink Floyd. ;-)
@azyfloof7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Paul Weller - You Do Something to Me :P I had to pause it and hum the rest of the tune to make sure I'd got it right :D
@TheTrashcutter7 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd are gods!
@Bob35197 жыл бұрын
I like the mod you did on the LED spacing! Another great video. I'm enjoying the Vocoder build!
@1954charlie5 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, I used to watch the video you put on the net! You are a great expert and I am an old retired! I bought two cheap kits and put them together! Go, yes it goes but it doesn't respond to the two channels as it should! The vibrations of the LEDs make it impossible to look at the delays between the channels! It's like a mono! I saw an assembled version in Italian, replaced with the two capacitor electrolyte. But neither drawing nor understanding! An old reader's suggestion to put two 2.2 micro F electrolyte condensers after 5pin, think one channel and solve the vibration and speed! I'm not drawing because they didn't give me an old man just begging! I'd like to thank you for having a line! All the best!
@rtesimpson7 жыл бұрын
wow, you're not far off a silver play button...😁👍🏻
@verymuchgoodgaming1327 жыл бұрын
Rob Simpson the appropriate thing to do then is to make a Z80 circuit in the play button 😂👍
@rtesimpson7 жыл бұрын
Very Much Good Gaming... excellent idea
@rtesimpson7 жыл бұрын
Very Much Good Gaming...so when you press the play button it says... 10 PRINT "Hello World!" 20 GOTO 10
@TheDutyPaid7 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this.
@Roy_Tellason5 жыл бұрын
I had built some stuff using these chips years ago, and was contemplating building some more, and when I saw the astoundingly low price on that ebay listing, I went there. Prices were a *lot* higher! Then I added the word "kit" to my search, and got some that were much more reasonable, though still a little higher than what I saw in the video. There are also versions of this which have a 741 op amp on the board, presumably to provide that rectifier function. I know that when I came up with my original circuit for this, years ago, I had to use an op amp and some filtering to get the "dot mode" display to work like I thought it should...
@adsicks7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you made this. I thought about buying the kit, but I have all the other stuff so I just bought the chips. Especially since you pointed out that it needs a rectifier for a full AC wave.....Plus I have some RGB LEDs and I might come up with something that looks innovative, yet still makes sense .....
@WaltonPete7 жыл бұрын
The reason for the resistor on the red LED's is that they typically have a lower forward voltage and so would consequently be brighter at the same voltage as the yellow ones. BTW - Just go ahead and calibrate your sodding component tester!
@jcwadkins21007 жыл бұрын
live these little kits
@ottokrauth73877 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Julian... I am ordering one of those meters and I will follow along to build the "dot" mod you are planning to build... fun!
@carlzimmerman87007 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your videos, I'm glad Bigclive turned me onto this channel.
@Templemain7 жыл бұрын
Some interesting for builder followers of Julian, like me. You can swap out the LM3915 (log Chip) for the LM3914 and get a linear response which might better suit your particular requirement. There is even an LM3916 too.
@AntonMikhaylov7 жыл бұрын
I bought exactly the same kit from aliexpress with hope to use it as a battery voltage indicator. I was hoping (without reading manuals of course) that it'll work in a wide range of voltages: from ~3 to 15 volts. so I could use the battery itself as a power source for the IC. It turns out, that it's not gonna work that way. But I still can use a 9V battery as a power supply for IC and maybe replace LM3915 with LM3914 to achieve the goal. Thank you very much for the video!
@AntonMikhaylov7 жыл бұрын
Well... Actually, LM3914 can operate with 3V power supply (yes, I looked into the datasheet). So maybe I can give it a try! (:
@Bob_Burton7 жыл бұрын
Surely there should be 11 LEDs ...
@GregMcCarthyUK7 жыл бұрын
probably one of the first circuits I built many many years ago
@KARLLARK1007 жыл бұрын
AGINE NICE ONE WELL DONE
@raymondheath76687 жыл бұрын
I built a couple of those but swapped out the middle yellows with 3 green out of my LED stock
@aceofsticks7 жыл бұрын
Yayyyy kit build!
@AdammP7 жыл бұрын
can't beat a bit of Floyd, very similar style
@tubical717 жыл бұрын
simply exchange the LM3915 with the 3914 for lineqar...oh you just said it...and the ´16 makes a fully true VU meter...;) I love these chips...you can do so many great things with them...i used it so many times in my designs....over and over again... The original TI-datasheets are somewhat complete, comprehensive and totally worth reading...:) Great chips....;) Well Done TexasInstruments. You may add a peak rectifier on top of that precision rectifier...so it will show both at a time...in dot mode...also read the data sheet where the current limitation is explained...you can drive the LEDs with far more current in dot mode hence brighter lights ;)
@48snapper7 жыл бұрын
It will be very interesting to see your final version. I'd be impressed if it has the true characteristics of a PPM - rapid attack response and a very slow release. Or will it be a simple peak indication?
@emerituse33907 жыл бұрын
I messed with those chips back in the day a lot. You can alter the response of the LED's by paralleling resistance to ground on the input pin. You'll end up having to increase the gain on the input, but it tended to increase the "turn on/off" voltage sensitivity between the individual LED's and it would make it less likely for 2 to be on at the same time. It was a different application so I'm unsure what effect it would have on audio.
@johnnytheangel17 жыл бұрын
Thank you Julian, I bought one of these kits and was not happy about it, but after watching this clip I will be changing the 50k around and also I was thinking of taking the 2-1K res and replacing with 510R just so as I can get the reds to light up more, the other thing I am wondering about is the audio input, should that be from line out or speaker out from amp, thanks
@bestamerica5 жыл бұрын
' hi J I... try put round LED light on the kit... dont need rectangle LED... can do that or not
@ronen1247 жыл бұрын
I am waiting forward for the continued vivisection (connecting the current LM3915 via the LF353 op-amp circuitry)
@thehappylittlefoxakabenji81547 жыл бұрын
may I ask why you have an oval cut out on the front panel of your vocoder project ? for the Led PPM
@JackZimmermann7 жыл бұрын
You really need to calibrate your Transistor Tester. Just short out pin 1-2-3, long press. Unconnect the shorting cables when your told to, and stick in a >100nF low ESR capacitor (film is good) when the C-1 test shows.
@mickdog26 жыл бұрын
mine is like that too, thanks for your instructions, maybe they'll work.
@domino52o265 жыл бұрын
What a gangster
@p1nesap7 жыл бұрын
do you use rechargeable 9v?
@TheDutyPaid7 жыл бұрын
Anyone playing along at home. Don't put 12v in anything like this. It be nice and bright for about a minute and then die.
@ODX1716 жыл бұрын
Not true. Read the Data sheet. 3 v to 25 V is acceptable. I've run mine with a 3915 at 12 V without any problems
@domino52o265 жыл бұрын
@@ODX171 I read that in the data sheet as well, but i really didn't have any plans to go above 6v. Is there any benefit to using more than 6v.
@ODX1715 жыл бұрын
Domino : I don't know of any benefit of more than 6V. I didn't build this kit BUT did build a similar circuit for a VU Meter project I built. I currently am using a 9V adapter I had around. Here's my link if you care to view.....kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8x-os2WlbGpdn0.html
@qzorn44403 жыл бұрын
nice video... two circuits of two lm3914 (4) chips should make a sweet on pcb pos/neg 10vdc linear signal input/output setup meters... with dots or bars for power saving? Thanks...:)
@nor42777 жыл бұрын
Can a little mic be put their ,instead of direct hook up.
@wcmm19704 жыл бұрын
Hello. Good Morning . a information. the R6 is 560ohms. mine didn't come. I should put which one.
@joinedupjon7 жыл бұрын
Maybe that odd effect without rectified input is why they describe it as 'funny' 3:10
@kirkb49897 жыл бұрын
It needed to go to eleven....
@DreStyle7 жыл бұрын
why no green for in DB range red for clip and red for over gain? or does this work otherwise? (thinking amp style)
@klavsreinisozols17146 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what is your resistor tester that you are using in this video?
@YouCountSheep7 жыл бұрын
But Julian, you should have used darker yellow LEDs and keep it flickering for vintage looks! If you dont have dark yellow ones used RGB LEDs and solder resistors to the pins so you get an orange color! And don't tell us that thats overkill, its called turn "$%#T into gold" :D
@ThatGuy-nv2wo7 жыл бұрын
Julian got mad Ps
@rcpete70556 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your component tester please..??
@yeltsincame7 жыл бұрын
Julian excellent video! Does the kit come with its schematic diagram?
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
No. Some eBay sellers have the schematic in their listings.
@iceberg7897 жыл бұрын
data sheet has schematic already.
@TheSiodmy7 жыл бұрын
would bodging up a microphone to it work or would it need some amplification to show nicely?
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
I'll probably do that by adding an extra op amp or two for the microphone.
@shubhkain75447 жыл бұрын
can you please give me the link where i can get this kit too
@bestamerica7 жыл бұрын
' is this kit come with sound pulse meter
@niniliumify7 жыл бұрын
"bit of a mess" = Funny
@donaldhenke27506 жыл бұрын
yes excelent i am having the same problem with lm3915 with the dot mode. i thought i did some thing to it now i no what to do. thanks ................
@frac7 жыл бұрын
Peak Power Meter, btw. Not program ;-)
@Leetut Жыл бұрын
I can’t get dot mode, 9v to pin 9 is blinding bright bar mode, GND to pin 9 is bar mode with both end leds always on, unconnected is best it’s not as bright bar mode
@tartrazine7 жыл бұрын
4:25 Practice for the spinning thingumabob - edge on?
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
Yes :)
@joinedupjon7 жыл бұрын
I just thought, you could use that wonky dot mode. stick this vertically and wave it around to make the worlds worst digital oscilloscope. might even make some interesting long exposure / double exposure photographs... like a sine wave going through your head.
@mr_random-guy.9697 жыл бұрын
Ok, I know this is a bit random but: At 10:43 julian's phone has that same bing bong noise that big clive's has. Is that from a specific app on your phone or is it a standard notification sound that android uses??? I really need to know. Sorry for the silliness over a noise XD
@JulianIlett7 жыл бұрын
+Nieco Adams It's the Gmail notification on Android
@ESTsilverv5 жыл бұрын
Think I screwed it up. When I connect 2032 battery to the board it simply lights up D8 and D9. Screwing the little screw changes nothing. Ideas?
@ESTsilverv5 жыл бұрын
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@Luthlan7 жыл бұрын
Julian, Have you noticed much difference in the price of stuff from the far east since the beginnings of brexit?
@slucas6017 жыл бұрын
It just occurred to me that the lm3914 (the linear version) would be an analog to digital converter.
@McPeppr7 жыл бұрын
If all led won't fit in you could also just let go of the first or last in the row.
@joinedupjon7 жыл бұрын
My first thought was that he was going to dremmel the slot a bit longer
@ntsrvr7 жыл бұрын
Good thing it's not high voltage at 18:31!
@johnbouttell58277 жыл бұрын
@ 1732 the music went onto bar mode
@rubber200217 жыл бұрын
no esd foam for 3915 ic.
@goopy00787 жыл бұрын
wow Postbag 37
@procactus91097 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever played with a MSGEQ7 chip ?
@kennethpetersen15287 жыл бұрын
I have. i would recommend GreatScott's instrucatble, it provides the basic knowledge needed to get started along with some example code for the arduino. www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-your-own-LED-Color-Organ-Arduino-MSGE/?ALLSTEPS
@georgef77547 жыл бұрын
Did anybody hear Purple Rain?
@AsafShahar7 жыл бұрын
wasn't that wish you were here or something? confused
@Stormy_9-37 жыл бұрын
Funny- chinglish conjugation of "fun". Idk Chinese, but I'm pretty sure they confused fun as a verb.