I think none of you are left handed, so the modification made on the pot to pour the metal would probably work better on the opposite side.
@jacobjohnston38296 жыл бұрын
it hurt to watch the pour
@blammers6 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing.
@SianaGearz6 жыл бұрын
Both sides, because why not.
@thybigballs5 жыл бұрын
Don't be making fun of us lefties! We are "special".
@HotDzign6 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Just FYI, a friend who owns a company dealing in industrial heating and heat monitoring equipment, told me that type of thermometer will give you inaccurate readings from reflective surfaces, like shiny pots or molten mettle.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Oh that's very interesting! I think it was close enough for what we were doing, but that's good to know for other applications.
@Loreroth6 жыл бұрын
Yup for infrared thermometers a matte black surface is ideal for accurate readings
@mattsmith73166 жыл бұрын
David Bond A quick blast of high-temp engine paint on the side of the pot would at least give you a way to get an accurate reading of the pot’s temperature.
@Loreroth6 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good idea
@RaymondOreFineArt6 жыл бұрын
I remember a long time ago I was always without the right returnable coin to release a shopping trolly so I cast one out of pewter using plasticine for a mold, the fine detail was terrible but it actually worked, I used it for years.
@jeffreywarrenpark91496 жыл бұрын
Rather than talc, you can get better, (& shinier), results using powdered graphite to powder and release the mould.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Oh snap! I hadn't thought of that! Thanks for the tip. I can try that next time I cast metal.
@jeffreywarrenpark91496 жыл бұрын
You can purchase Graphite powder, in large & inexpensive quantities, at your local art or craft stores. You can also find it in most hardware stores, too. Although, the quantities they carry are usually very small and costly. Graphite is rather unusual. It can be used for a large number of uses. Aside from being used as a "dry lubricant" and for making illustrations, it can also be used as a dry pigment in a variety of materials, (mostly, for a wide range of grey-tones), and, a mould release for casting metals. Also, it can be used for aging/weathering props & costumes, creating a surprisingly realistic "dark chrome" or gunmetal-look. And, a little of it goes an incredibly long way. One word of caution, though. Use it sparingly, because it can get extremely messy if you are not very careful, (this is especially true, when our feline Overlords closely inspect project progress..., 'LOTS of little black pawprints, EVERYWHERE..., don't ask me how I know this first hand).
@KentuckyFriedGamers6 жыл бұрын
I always pre-heat my molds prior to pouring, it helps.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Good thinking! =D
@BMackProductions6 жыл бұрын
How hot do you go? 400?
@KentuckyFriedGamers6 жыл бұрын
I usually just heat them on 400 for about 20 minutes, just enough to make sure the mold is heated all the way through. I heat the mold halves together, that way the heat inside the mold is retained long enough to start pouring.
@TheKrister24 жыл бұрын
@@KentuckyFriedGamers Sorry for the necro, but how do you pre-heat your mold?
@KentuckyFriedGamers4 жыл бұрын
@@TheKrister2 in the oven. You can also just pour the mold a couple of times and heat it that way as well.
@SilverTigerPower6 жыл бұрын
thank you for showing the mistakes! a lot of people forget about that when making a tutorial that you can't do trial and error off screen and have it be perfect when you put it on because when others try it and inevitably fail the first time, now they can see why
@n2darkness6 жыл бұрын
Another great video! If you pre-heat the mold with either a couple of casts or in a toaster oven at 300° and will also help with detail.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Good tip, thanks for sharing!
@cattaraugustonawanda44266 жыл бұрын
Not a great casting but you're on the right track. 1st you need to make your mold so that the clamping surfaces are FLAT and PARALELL, the edges don't matter. Moldmax 60 is OK but Dow Corning 3120 is more economical and easier to mix accurately. Temperature of the pewter needs to be about 600degF. With the pewter at casting temperature you need to dust with talc and w/o closing the mold pour pewter on the mold cavities a few times to warm up the mold. Hot mold is the rule. To assemble the mold the aluminum plates are great but need to be clamped LIGHTLY with some sort of screw clamp or vise.Next you need to flux the mold using 20 Mule Team Borax. Just a pinch in the melt pot. Use a ladle to skim the dross to the side of the pot and dip the ladle and pour into the mold. Talc can be applied by putting it in a athletic sock and pounced on the mold. Teflon can be used as core material to form holes in the casting. Look at info on sand casting about use of cores since same theory applies. Make sure your sprue is long and tapered since it provided pressure on the metal in the mold cavity. Factors that effect the casting quality include part orientation, metal temperature, venting, etc. Hope that helps.
@cattaraugustonawanda44266 жыл бұрын
Flux the metal - sorry about that !
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
It is definitely challenging to mix MM60 in an accurate manner. I'll have to try out the Dow Corning 3120.
@cattaraugustonawanda44266 жыл бұрын
the paste type catalyst is much easier to mix i use a second hand triple beam balance you can measure small mounts with this method do you have a web site ?
@andrewpackham82366 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the results of the low temp silicone, I've always used plaster moulds for pouring metal, not ideal!
@DavidGuyton6 жыл бұрын
ohhhh I had no idea this was possible. I will definitely be using this technique in the future
@PrimalEdge6 жыл бұрын
awesome video.... I have no idea why I'm so addicted to casting videos.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
They are pretty satisfying, I think.
@Keep-Making6 жыл бұрын
I've worked with pewter several times and I knew that the melting point was low but WOW! I have no idea that I could use it in a silicone mold... I've been using wood molds all this time. Thanks so much for the insight.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Have fun. =D
@grimwurks6 жыл бұрын
could you put a link for the silicon mold material? I have been casting pewter for 30 years and have a couple of suggestions . . . I use hardboard for my mold plates and an adjustable clamp rather than the rubber bands. I think if you are doing multiple casts the aluminium plates will get too hot to handle. The graphite coating works great, I got a locksmiths rubber squeeze bulb and buy my graphite by the pound, way cheaper. The casting pot you have in the background and the pour ladle are for bullet molding, but you can get a casting pot with a pour spigot and eliminate the ladle. The benefit of the casting pot is being able to maintain a constant temperature throughout the process and not burn the casting metal . . . you don't want to be breathing vaporised metals!!! love your videos and watch them all the time, keep up the great work!
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@smoothon6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for posting guys!
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making awesome materials! =D
@Multiabuse6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Smooth-On giving Props to Punished Props. 2 of my favorite channels!
@mdimansantoso39763 жыл бұрын
Will the max 60 stands on melting aluminum?
@raleighkelsey33556 жыл бұрын
One tip that might help for you. If you are right handed- try putting your pour spout on the other side. I love all your videos and have learned a lot
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
That's a fantastic idea!
@dfcprops38496 жыл бұрын
You make it look so easy! Something I probably won't try for a while, but it's definitely good to know for the future. Both of you do an excellent job on the channel.
@MakeBrooklyn6 жыл бұрын
That was awesome and yes, pouring molten metal on a wood table, probably not optimal. I particularly loved the end screen, melting the pewter out of your 123 block. :)
@Grimmers6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy the slightly improv/learning-process style.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! Prop and costume making is all about learning through mistakes and trying new things.
@createscifi6 жыл бұрын
Besides my sci-fi projects, I also do a bit of Ren Faire type projects this is going to up my medieval prop game! hahaha sweet video! thx Bill
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome! Share you awesome work with us on Twitter: twitter.com/chinbeard
@rookscastle39516 жыл бұрын
When I've done white metal/pewter casting for my own props, I place the mold on an old cookie sheet. Any over pours will end up on the metal surface and not risk burning your work bench! Plus, you can skim the slag and dump it easily on an unused part of the cookie sheet for easy clean up later.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Great idea! - Paige
@AlexJacksonTempleSounds4 жыл бұрын
it really helps to warm the moulds up before the pour, stops the metal jumping out
@punishedprops4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@Cmoth0406 жыл бұрын
I don't know how warm you can get silicone but preheating the molds results in a complete, more precise casting.
@solomonheppner6 жыл бұрын
Funnel? Love the ingenuity with the pour spout and adjustments.
@Corbald6 жыл бұрын
Nice detail on the knurling right off the Form 2! Gotta love that SLS!
@CarloRufinoSabusap6 жыл бұрын
"...and here we'll just add a happy little burn mark."
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
We were channeling our inner Bob Ross
@adama12946 жыл бұрын
I have cast lead before and there are a couple of things that make for a good cast. Flux your metal. This will reduce the oxides in the metal and clean up impurities. A tiny drop of wax will work great. Proper temperature for the pour. Don't just pour it when it is molten, too cold and you will get voids in the metal and fine detail will not show up, too hot and there will be excess shrinking. I haven't cast with silicone but for a metal mold, soot from flame make great mold release. After you practice on the first cast you should cut it open with a scroll saw or jewler's saw to see how the casting went. Silicone probably does not have to be preheated to get the best results since it holds the heat in longer than metal but metal molds will need to be preheated.
@thegreatway8904 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend adding a funnel type structure to your molds to help avoid filling your escape channels for the air with metal by mistake. Also gives you a nice cut off point for your cast.
@punishedprops4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@pauls57453 жыл бұрын
looks so easy! now I just have to see about mold making TYSM for the vid!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@Chayat0freak6 жыл бұрын
When I used to do this for wargame miniatures I was told not to use metal for the mould clamps because it let the heat transfer away from the liquid metal too fast and didnt flow nicely into the details.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Hey good to know, maybe we'll try that next time. - Paige
@jeffzugale6 жыл бұрын
Looks like you put a temper on the corner of your 123 block, man, probably didn't need that hot of a torch :) Of course I only think that because I just watched Clickspring tempering handmade drill bits...
@coffeecupblue3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! I scanned below, didn't see this, so am adding. I believe the yellowish color of the pewter indicates it is slightly too hot. Maybe that helps someone. It looks great!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh, thanks so much for the tip!
@macewen15 жыл бұрын
If you keep working with soft metal casting you should consider getting a production pot, like we use for casting lead bullets/shot.
@Hatsterchannel6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea bout this moulding stuff :D I just use a CNC Milling machine and MDF when making a mould :D Save on making a mould by hand and they re-use like a boss! Plus much better for the environment!
@dennisjohansen84903 жыл бұрын
That burn in the counter was almost a perfect silhouette of a Troll Face meme. Missed opportunity.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Next time!
@dananance4672 Жыл бұрын
Put a metal lube in the top of the vent hole so the pewter can not go into the hole. Also cast in a larger funnel shape into your silicon mold for the fill. Lastly put a pour spout on the other side of the big ladle
@ossme6 жыл бұрын
Thins turned out better than the enclosure, lol! X)
@Viking13106 жыл бұрын
Bill, if you're ever heading to the San José area in the Southern Bay Area (California), give me a heads up and I'll show you and Brit the ideal small metal casting set up at SJSU
@cocomojoe8963 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful! I knocked over my roommates mini chess set and disappeared on of the pawns, a Greek soldier, which is not available to purchase anywhere! Thanks especially for the silicone 30 trial- I only need to cast one piece so it’s good to know I don’t have to go up to the 60 (price wise and amount wise)!
@Apocalypsae6 жыл бұрын
Been away from this channel. I'm back finally 😍
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! - Paige
@kickpunched4 жыл бұрын
Amazingly well done video! Thanks so much for putting this together AND for revealing the types of rubbers used. Bravo! New subscriber and fan inbound!
@punishedprops4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@jekster6 жыл бұрын
Arty the art piece! Thumbs up for Arty!
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Arty just wants to be included.
@bigguy782466 жыл бұрын
A satisfying end card to go with the fun and informative content thanks.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a fun way to end it! =D
@thornleymarshalldesigns Жыл бұрын
It looks like you need a larger opening and and should tap the mould to make sure it goes all the way down to the bottom.
@lesliebow02174 жыл бұрын
Very creative to turn a burnt mark into a smiley 🤓
@ricktedder47496 жыл бұрын
Try using French chalk instead of baby powder, the baby powder has elements in it to stop it compacting which create gasses when heated this in turns can create a pocked texture on the flat surfaces
@jessemartinez67814 жыл бұрын
Y'all are perfect for each other....like Sheldon
@oorcinus6 жыл бұрын
Just a word of warning - don’t rely on the temps from that thermometer for anything vital when doing this. Contactless thermometers like that one are calibrated for a certain reflectivity. The correction factor needs to be tweaked for various materials, and you’ll almost never get an accurate/reliable readout off of shiny, metallic surfaces.
@AGPerry-go3xk6 жыл бұрын
"Hey everybody, I'm a piece of artwork on the countertop, totally on purpose!"
@AerikForager6 жыл бұрын
You have memorialized the successful first pewter casting by drawing a witness. ;p
@M4ng03z6 жыл бұрын
Contenti sells bottom pour ladles to minimize/eliminate slag in your pour :)
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Woah neat!
@M4ng03z6 жыл бұрын
Punished Props Academy contenti.com/bottom-pour-ladles
@dragonfire8106 жыл бұрын
How to make a Lightsaber out of plumbing supplies like Indy Mogul’s Backyard Fx
@ronfults38445 жыл бұрын
When casting metal you will get much better results if you preheat your mold before you pour your cast.
@AndrewHasara6 жыл бұрын
Another thing that you can do to improve detail is to put the mold in a pressure pot (like pressure casting resin.)
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
I've never thought to put a pewter casting in the pressure pot! Thanks for the tip!
@19rocket646 жыл бұрын
should have watched to the end...make a larger head which will provide more pressure to drive the metal.
@fakermakerprops39483 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@fakermakerprops39483 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops yeah! If I were to cast something, with silicone, without metal or resin, what is the best non toxic way?
@noahsimpson92556 жыл бұрын
Love the end song.
@jedenamino97643 жыл бұрын
Optimism wins.
@InventorInvestor16 күн бұрын
Make your vent hole higher than your pour in hole.
@lennybaldacchino Жыл бұрын
u need to use small funnel banana according to the hole size
@GraceWillow6 жыл бұрын
Your pewter sploosh smiley face reminds me of the kool aid man. Also this turned out SO COOL!!!!
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
*busts through wall* OHYEAHHHH!
@thornleymarshalldesigns Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t using metal clamps be better to hold the mould than wire as it’s easier to clamp and unclamp?
@AlphaNerdCosplay6 жыл бұрын
Haha, legit just finished a Mold Max 60 mold yesterday. See you guys at Emerald City Comic Con!! :)
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Splendid! =D
@jdrew5006 жыл бұрын
Possibly an aluminum extension tube to bring air release vent above the pore area would allow for better venting. Maybe not.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
That could work.
@thornleymarshalldesigns Жыл бұрын
You need a proper pot with a pouring point, so it pours in smoother
@dredDmeredith6 жыл бұрын
Try doing lost wax.ferst use the latex mould to cast it in wax, you can clean up all the blemishes on the wax before casting the metal,drill holes ext ext.Then Then cast the wax into a one piece plaster mold.Then ether boil of the wax, or put it into an oven to do it this will also dry the plaster,wet plaster molds aren't a good idea,as they can explode.for casting the metel the plaster mold should go into a bucket of sand.Once cast the plaster can be easily cleaned of the casting. The latex mold will last a lot longer and you'll not end up with bernt molds. A bit more involved.With this type of method you can also cast aluminum and bronze .
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
I would love to do that some day. I'll need some more equipment, but it's definitely an awesome process.
@themaninthesuitcase6 жыл бұрын
If you’re looking at lost wax and have access to a form then they do a casting wax. There’s also a wax filament called moldlay. I’d love to try but getting my wife on board to melt metal is proving a bit tricky!
@tjy45176 жыл бұрын
I do love your video. Nice demonstration.
@PonyHorton4 жыл бұрын
You should have made the pinch for pouring on the other side, since both of you appear to be right-handed. You're pouring in the opposite direction than what is natural, and as a result the pour is not as smooth or accurate, and can overflow more easily than if you made it right-handed and poured to the inside of your hand direction rather than the outside. Still, really cool work, nice melting and molding!
@danthemakerman6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome!
@randolphchappel60985 ай бұрын
What should the ideal metal temperature be for a good cast?
@mosesmodise49986 ай бұрын
why that alluminium residue is it because u have not covered the pot im just asking for the sake of quality
@frankparolek54099 ай бұрын
Talc is great for silicone molds but I see you used baby powder. Most baby powder is made from corn starch now and not talc so my question is: what kind of baby powder did you use? Talc or non-talc? Talc powder is much more expensive than baby powder and I'm wondering if corn starch might burn.
@MrChief1016 жыл бұрын
Hey, Punished-- expend a drop more rubber and build in a better pour stub in the master/rubber. Then, make a better pour lip thingie on your pot. And let's not forget to throw out those old 1-2-3 blocks-- they're disposable, right? (Eheh... wrap in foil or just go out and find some bricks, even broken ones.) Yes, yes-- don't want to end on all critical, back-biting comments-- very brave and good of you to show us that next step in serious modeling.
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
For sure, the mold design could use some work. I learn more with each project! =D
@johnkelley98776 жыл бұрын
Really helpful tutorial!
@gavinsmiyh62186 жыл бұрын
How about pouring the puter into a metal funnel for better aim?
@mugiraharjo62709 ай бұрын
How high temperature, for silicon can withstand
@mrvsomasundaram3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AnthonyBowman6 жыл бұрын
That burn mark looks like Slimer!
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
It really does! HAA! =D
@Falney4 жыл бұрын
Hit a 123 block with a blow torch? Do you mean your 1.2 2.3 3.4 block?
@kellerdufficy68606 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make a video on your paint booth setup
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
Pretty soon we'll be building a new paint booth and we'll do a video on that, for sure.
@sublimationman6 жыл бұрын
Pre heat your mold so the metal does not harden as fast, just throw it in an oven at 400 for a few minutes.
@emperorhadrian60113 жыл бұрын
Kinda wanna make a full puter zaku II
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
That would be crazy!
@emperorhadrian60113 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops Eh, the hg model would be pretty easy, might even do the rg since I've got one on hand. The only thing that I would be worried about is the ball joints
@Liar9994 жыл бұрын
What about using a plaster mold? I know it would be a messy result, but, it could work, right?
@gennadyreshetnikov59485 жыл бұрын
The AvE is strong with this one.
@GreenbeardtheEnt4 жыл бұрын
try lost wax method of casting
@rexmcstiller46756 жыл бұрын
I love molten metal. Oh. And window pane are pour on molten pewter.
@DanteFeraco81 Жыл бұрын
Where do you go to, to have one of these molds made?
@VaultBoi1015 жыл бұрын
Can you try this with moulds of 3d printed items
@ibidesign5 жыл бұрын
For keeping out the slag, could you not use a SS wire mesh as a 'filter' of sorts?
@cbrockbishop15662 жыл бұрын
why is the 2nd one gold? Is it pewter?
@roygeiger15256 жыл бұрын
Great video your air vent is a little too small and to close to the pouring hole and are you left handed.
@autobeemations59133 жыл бұрын
would stainless steel work just as good because I've been thinking of casting a metal ignika.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I believe the heat required is too much for most silicones
@autobeemations59133 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops understandable, but what else could I use instead?
@Francisramil4 жыл бұрын
Good day sir. what kind of materials you use in making a molder. this molder can use in metal and what is the durability of this material. thank you
@punishedprops4 жыл бұрын
Check out the video description! We list what materials we used to make the molds in this video
@christinoccs3 жыл бұрын
funny and good video, thanks for sharing, I already bought a OOMOO smoothon 25, I never had used it , may I cast tin with it?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I don't think OOMOO can withstand the temperature - but you can check the product information to see what the maximum heat tolerance is
@348loadedlever35 жыл бұрын
You can melt pewter with a match
@Digital_Guerrero3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys does anyone have any advice on doing double sided coins this way? Like if I did a split mold like this would I need a air vent and such?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
We haven't done a coin with metal but my guess would be you do need some kind of vent to make sure you get everything filled without bubbles.
@nycGWOD2 жыл бұрын
This is epic! I didn't realise you could create metal-safe moulds from silicone. Do you reckon there's a way to reduce or even eliminate the seam? Or would you just have to sand it off after? Many thanks for this vid.
@hologramsolid47888 ай бұрын
You need hitemp silicone
@bizarre_wolf6 жыл бұрын
Hey I would really like it is you can do a video on the suit of savitar from the show flash if you need to look at the suit you can go to the show flash and look at session 3 ep 23 from 25 min and 44 seconds
@CashAndCoinsYT3 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@FreakySei5 жыл бұрын
You might wanna protect that handle of the pot with some cords or other insolating stuff !
@KRGraphicsCG6 жыл бұрын
I wish smooth on had a resin that can handle molten brass
@punishedprops6 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's possible, unfortunately.
@KRGraphicsCG6 жыл бұрын
Punished Props Academy Oh, I know. ☺ it's a helluva thought. The next step up is jeweler's investment