jPapapot same hahaha, a bit sad though to hear how crap they are

Dont be so easily fooled by migro

Lumens?

down load a lux meter on your phone and whatever the lux reading is divide it by 76 that's a fairly accurate par number without a fancy meter

Lux meter app dont read more than 1000 lumen, more than that they saturate and don take a good reading.

Please

@NukeHeads 3 I´m talking about the maker speecs not grow science, i want to know if they lie in their speecs or not. Sorry by the spanglish

You should consider chilLed.com his youtube is growmau5

Cool. You can run the Vipar and MIGRO led together. What size grow area are you using?

@@MIGROLIGHT 2.5ft x 3.5ft

οκ I know right they have the same parts as the hlg so why wouldn't be the same... It should be

@@joshamy39 do u guys even understand what Alibaba is they sell knockoffs or Chinese stolen plans and then find the absolute most garbage left over diodes from Samsung's throw away pile or non top notch performing gear. It's like getting nike air maxes from the corner store. Also like shopping at Marshall's or TJ max sure it looks ok the first time u wear it till u find the flaw in stitching or holes or just messed up in general. But hey it's ok u just gotta buy a new one every grow or 2...

J&A but diffrent boards yeah it’s similar

greenghost3737 you are probably right but Id like to see migros test to believe it

@@greenghost-xi5jp It's also where Nanolux and Growers Choice buy. At least Growers Choice use Lonbright(Longhood?), have changed name slightly. I have a great Low frequency, square wave ballast with digital readout, dimming, and boost, no fan, I-64(?) waterproof approved, from Ceramic Solutions lighting in N. Cali, and they/he buys through EBM in China, I believe. Last time he had 630W DE-CMH ballast(same as above), w/double ended lamp for $199, shipping included. So I bought another set! Impressive! He even gave me the newest 3K-R improved lamp, just to try out-Colin is great. Much like Shane, here! I've heard certain provinces are much better, higher quality, while some areas are known to be lower quality, etc. They do have their own patents, and very smart designers, creators in some areas. But, yeah, I have seen exact copies of products specifically in the USA. Sun Supply AC/DE fixture is great, and expensive, but Lonbright has totally copied. That's who Growers Choice gets their CMH equipment from, and they'll label them with Growers Choice emblems, whatever they ordered. This has been done often by big companies. Alibaba gives us regular people these same deals. I was going to upgrade to a 1000W DE-CMH, but only available in 220V. Adding about 400W(5x5 Gorilla tent), but 4-100w Migro lights would give a much more even lit canopy, and the adjustability and craftsmanship, Luminous COB's, most efficient. I had disability back pay coming, ended up a few grand less than expected. Looked all over Alibaba, different COB setups everywhere. Finally found 1 company that makes 100W COB units using 2-50W COB's each on a 1M rail that the COBS can be slid back and forth, as well as turning 350°, and can be angled 180°, which is working well. These only had Citizen CLUO48-1212 COB's, less efficient than Migro's Luminous COB's, and cheap, but workable, but craftsmanship is low compared to Migro, but hopefully stays functional. I still prefer mostly HID lamps, but COB's as supplemental is great. Shane's Migro are definitely higher quality w/better workmanship, as well as better efficiency. And upgradable if better COB's come out. Sorry for rambling on. Migro are Tops in COB's! Leaders for awhile now, and into the future I believe!

I should, i would, i could...

Did you then?

Do the part numbers match? You can see the numbers in the close-up. I'm sure there are many variants out there.

@@MIGROLIGHT Nope, DOB4075 (bridgelux). Can i ask what instrument (multimeter?) you have connected to the sensor to read the values (divided by 10) in that display?

Stefano Pasquali were did you get your cobs

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Stefano Pasquali i have seen those exact ones also in action and they are really powerfull 👍

For little seedlings the blurple one may be a good spectrum. I hear you can get accelerated growth in very young seedlings with lots of blue.

@@MIGROLIGHT that's exactly the one I have. And I've learnt so much from your videos thankyou from canada

Blue light penetrates water better than other wavelengths hence why those creatures rely on the blue wavelength.

Not the same lights.

@NukeHeads 3 what a f**king knob head.....fuuuuuuuck bro....your head is so far up your own shit tube its unreal.....fuuuuuuck

@The Muckler I'll have to check it

How did you dim these?

Excuse my english

No problem:) almost all major brand LEDs are made in China. Cree, Luminus bridgelux etc. You get what you pay for.

Just to follow up. I did a really half-assed spectrum test (photo of light on flat white background analyzed for RGB), and R/B were virtually identical in perceived intensity. Not exactly scientific, but I don't have a $500+ spectrometer. By contrast, your readings look to be about twice the intensity across "blue" vs "red". My cob however has that "red led" coating you point out on your blurple unit completely covering the leds (I've never actually seen one with that cutout before, 99% of the ones on eBay US are like mine... which would explain the increase in red spectrum at least partly. If you get the chance please drop another $2 and try one of the more typical style. You could also pick up a pure red unit (rarer and a different (looks older) style, but available for about $3 instead of $2) to see if it could be used to balance out the blue-heavy nature of the "full spectrum" without introducing an excess of yellow and green light. I'm also curious about your reflector? I've never held one of your unit's but it appears it's built into the lens. How efficient is it at working with these cheap, backed cobs? As they scatter light in a very nearly hemispheric range without a reflector. They are often sold with a very cheap aluminum/plastic reflector/lens, and I'd be curious to see how that setup compared when used with them vs your setup.

The driver is probably about 70% efficient vs 94% for best in class. The LEDs used would be just as much to blame for the low result. They are only a few Euros each after all.

The grid was 90cm x 90cm but the PPFD readings were 0 outside the 60cm x 60cm area. Lens on/off will differ by about 10%

I Have ordered A 50w white full spectrum. Havent tested the wattage. but buddy it will damn near blind you!!! So it's up there ide imagine

Almost forgot, yes they will grow. Anything.

Best Epistar led light I've tested is about 1.4umols/watt efficiency. Not really worth it in my view. CMH is just as good...

@@MIGROLIGHT thank you for the reply :) I wonder if it being in a cob format would help push up the efficiency a bit?

It's to capture as many photons as possible

Just purchased the 200W MkII Model.I'll test it and post the video when it comes in. Thanks, Shane

@@MIGROLIGHT You are a legend.Thanks for all the great info.I will be watching.👊🏻

@@MIGROLIGHT it's so great you spend your money and get these new grow lights that come on the market and test and share the costs and result comparisons. Question. What do you end up doing with the lights when your done? Sell, use, give away?

As I understood the video they were tested in a MIGRO fixture with a lens, so I don't think two lenses would bring the numbers up more but maybe would make a nice telescope...

@@TheMindpack that's suppoused be funny??

@@cfsotto only for people with humor. The rest can stop reading after the informative part of the answer.

Oh yeah I just seen that

I've got six of the blurples hes testing and four of the whites. i used one blurple on a seed which grew to a foot and a half tall. Didnt look any different to any other seedlings. But I got a migro 100 and could just turn that down, then up as it grew. Now I[ve got six crap 50w cob lights (tey pulled exactly 50 from whall) and 1 300w and 1 1200w chinese knockoffs of mars hydro. So all for the fucken bin!!! Aaarrgghh....one piece of advice for newbs. Never buy cheap stuff. You[ll cry in the long run. If des0perate, get some cfls. But best advice is to save, and buy once. Also got full HID gear to dispose of. Another fucken waste that was. I got migro aray 4, plus the migro 100. Perfect for me. Good luck guys !

Optic 1

DIY

Link please

Meh

Yxo Full spectrum cob

Can you post a link

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COBs are more efficient with lenses. Otherwise the light is projected at a 150 degree arc.

@@MIGROLIGHT why 150 degrees? its not 180 ???

I have a hlg v2 on its way for testing

Alot of people dont trust that guy coady.Beware i would buy nothing from him. Shane you can trust i bet watt for watt efficiency migro would blow away anything coady from nukeheads sells. His nutrients is basically repackaged blue crystalized cheap maricale grow or exact same looking no name stuff. A friend tryed giving me a bottle of his flour power i think it was called. Looks identical to the maricale grow stuff or very cheap no name stuff. Pure synthetic crap good bye good friendly soil life microbiology microbiological life if you force feed your plants that garbage.

@@kkrollingskkrollings3173 Yeah, I've heard all the bullshit, his FPP works wonders, and it's not miracle grow, just because it's the same color, you people listen to all the bullshit people talk about others, I've talked to Cody, I own one of his new lights, your all gonna eat your words, this guy knows what he's doing....Why do you run people in the ground who are working there asses off in America, not giving there work and ideas to China, I think they've stolen enough from our country....And I don't give a shit where your from, you have America to Thank that your not part of Hitler's Nazi Germany, we're taking our country back one small business at a time.......

@@michaelhiggins3382 NukeHeads is a conman who sells junk to dupes. Then again, with all that empty headed nonsense you're spewing, it's no wonder you love it.

@@kkrollingskkrollings3173 I don't know how it works in soil. I use in dwc and it does really good results. And I know all about nukeheads issues but the fpp in hydro is way better then alot of nutrients on the market. I'm not sponsored. I have grown great results with alot of other companies and for the cost and how I use it it kicks ass. I use it with hydroguard and sometimes other additives. But it really can be used as a stand alone all in one nutrient. Works great when adding any company's sweetener.

The Muckler yeah bro, unfortunately some things still have to be sourced from China, I own a construction business and over 80 percent of the steel comes from China or India and it’s junk, you can blame that on Obama giving away American jobs to the Chinese, but everything else Cody uses is American made and built in America, by Americans...

It is a bit pricey. But when you calculate parts and engineering and location of manufacturing and shipping costs. Its actually a nice light. And remember the stuff it grows will pay for it in no time. I would love to someday soon at least get one. But would love to own 4.

@@shakascloset1700 dude don't buy this crazy expensive shit. Make your own! Use some citizen 1216 and some PRB or Samsung lm301b quantum boards and throw this shit away.

@@arnauvizcarramiserachs6318 I didn't say I could afford them. And yes I would do a DIY first before I would ever spend that much for 1 small light.

@@shakascloset1700 don't ever spend money on this brand. It a waste of money when there are a lot of better and cheaper things out there. Just don't do it.