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ECM barrel equipment overview

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lordkyleofearth

lordkyleofearth

3 жыл бұрын

Overview of the equipment used for ECM barrel creation. This setup is based on the work done by IvanTheTroll in his "But What About A Barrel?" guide.

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@suriles4652
@suriles4652 3 жыл бұрын
Great overview of the equipment! I recently started printing the parts for an FCG-9 and I've been going around trying to learn more about the ECM process used to create the barrels.
@josemartinez-lo4dh
@josemartinez-lo4dh 2 жыл бұрын
friend I have a problem, today I started the cutting process but I can't reduce the internal diameter, the water turns brown, I'm using the same water pump as you and I have a power source adjustable at 7.5 amp, I don't know what I may be doing wrong...
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 2 жыл бұрын
Is your boring rod getting smaller? If you have signs that cutting is taking place, but the tube diameter is not changing, you possibly have the wires reversed. In that case, you are using the tube to cut the rod.
@josemartinez-lo4dh
@josemartinez-lo4dh 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth the positive pole goes at the end and the negative pole at the barrel, is that correct?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 2 жыл бұрын
Negative goes to the cutting tool and positive goes to the work piece (whatever you are trying to cut).
@josemartinez-lo4dh
@josemartinez-lo4dh 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a Lot man,
@bruddaozzo
@bruddaozzo 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you reduce the amperage for the pump from 5 to 3? I see in the documentation they also recommend to buy a 3a charger for the pump when it's a 5a unit. Is this because at 5a the water flow is too fast? Or is it more because the price up from a 3a charger to a 5a charger isn't worth it? I only have a 5a charger, hoping it will be okay :/
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 2 жыл бұрын
5a is probably fine. You only need the 3a for adequate flow. At 5a, some pump models can make enough pressure to pop hoses free. If that happens, you'll just need better clamps.
@bruddaozzo
@bruddaozzo 2 жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth Thank you! I've bought the metal hose clamps so fingers crossed that's enough
@lopo8000
@lopo8000 3 жыл бұрын
My water pump which could pump 5 L /min was broken i bought a new one who can pump 4 l/min what do u need to take into consideration when u have a less powerfull water pump in ECM?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you have electrolyte flow, you should be good. Lower volumes mean less sludge removal, at some point, but I'm not sure where that line is at-you'll probably have to find it experimentally. FWIW, I cut my early barrels with an aquarium pump that was fairly low flow and built essentially zero pressure. From that, you're likely fine with that 4L pump.
@amtechprinters3339
@amtechprinters3339 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, can that pump using as sucktion pump and would it handle air bubles when liquid no awaible for "draining" I would need it for similar project which needs dirty water suction continuously even if water does not run every moment, purpose is to keep sheet workpiece clean and dry as possible
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
It's just a 12v RV water pump. I'm not sure if it'd need your needs or not, but there are a bunch out there to choose from.
@bobjohnson3794
@bobjohnson3794 3 жыл бұрын
How long do you run the current? If you run it too long won't it completely erode the barrel?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Ivan's ECM guide has the timing intervals (assuming 8.5a is used on a 4" barrel). If you overshoot your targets, you'll likely ruin the barrel.
@luciankristov6436
@luciankristov6436 3 жыл бұрын
What power supply do you recommend
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
Anything that can push 10 or more amps and, preferably, that offers a constant current function. An ATX power supply and buck converter works fine.
@PaulHenning84
@PaulHenning84 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Longwei one that doesn't have the course and fine adjustments on it, 10 amps. They're like $80.
@TornoyfresadoraRD
@TornoyfresadoraRD 7 ай бұрын
One last question, where do I get the .stl file?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 7 ай бұрын
Odysee is the current host for related files, but you can also just search for "home ECM" and it should get you where you need to be.
@bluejay117
@bluejay117 2 жыл бұрын
Would a 12v 5A plug in power supply from Amazon work for the power supply?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 2 жыл бұрын
The more amps you can push, the better. 5a will work, but it'll be about half as fast and you'll have reduced surface quality. If you can get the 10a version, it's worth the extra money.
@lopo8000
@lopo8000 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if the bohring rod dosen't not straight throw the barrel i mean throw the barrel but not straight what happens
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
You'd get eccentric boring, which would make for a pretty much garbage barrel (also, possibly an unsafe one, depending on how eccentric).
@TornoyfresadoraRD
@TornoyfresadoraRD 7 ай бұрын
What liquid did you use?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 7 ай бұрын
Salt water
@bobjohnson3794
@bobjohnson3794 3 жыл бұрын
Can you show the actual cutting process? Or is that not allowed on YT?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
I am unclear on whether or not it's permitted under the current TOS for KZfaq. Once I've done some more research I'll hopefully be confident enough to post a process video.
@bobjohnson3794
@bobjohnson3794 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth awesome, I'll be sure to check it out
@marlondeanbellot.7945
@marlondeanbellot.7945 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of Pump? A Water Pump?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
An RV water pump is totally adequate.
@lopo8000
@lopo8000 3 жыл бұрын
If u make one 9x19 barrel using this method how many can u do with the same salt water left?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 2 жыл бұрын
You can let the water settle and transfer it to a different vessel for the next job. Although, an even better strategy would be to add 50g (or so) of citric acid to the mixture. This will allow the sludge to stay in solution better and reduce the formation of extremely toxic hexavalent chromium.
@marlondeanbellot.7945
@marlondeanbellot.7945 3 жыл бұрын
Will solid stainless steel bar stock be adequate?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
ECM will cut pretty much any conductive metal.
@Blakes123
@Blakes123 2 жыл бұрын
We’re do you get the files
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 2 жыл бұрын
The most recent ECM guide is, I believe, the 3.5 guide on Odysee. For this work here, I'm using files that I made myself, based on the original easy impact published by Ivan the troll.
@MrThePsychologist
@MrThePsychologist Жыл бұрын
may i have the stl for the 3d printed part?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth Жыл бұрын
The Deterrence Dispensed ECM guide has all the files (which have been updated) instructions on how to use them.
@MrThePsychologist
@MrThePsychologist Жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth alright thanks
@MrThePsychologist
@MrThePsychologist Жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth where can i get the files?
@vijaykorvekar1009
@vijaykorvekar1009 3 жыл бұрын
Is 22 caliber possible
@iosis2009
@iosis2009 2 жыл бұрын
22 centrefire would be possible, you'd just need to buy the appropriate pipe to begin with. Rimfire would require huge adaptation and changes to the gun internals so I doubt it'd work
@fluffypinkpandas
@fluffypinkpandas Жыл бұрын
can you make polymer rifled FGC5-7?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth Жыл бұрын
No. Polymer is not appropriate for barrels.
@fluffypinkpandas
@fluffypinkpandas Жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth meant to say polygonal not polymer LOOLLL i know polymer isnt for barrels
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth Жыл бұрын
@@fluffypinkpandas You can make all sorts of calibers. Just don't exceed the pressure rating of the base tube.
@fluffypinkpandas
@fluffypinkpandas Жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth aight.
@marlondeanbellot.7945
@marlondeanbellot.7945 3 жыл бұрын
Where to buy steel and what kind of steel?!?!
@Timsimon11
@Timsimon11 3 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic pipe is rated for the pressures of a firearm barrel.
@marlondeanbellot.7945
@marlondeanbellot.7945 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Automotive? Where can I get those? Thanks.
@Timsimon11
@Timsimon11 3 жыл бұрын
@@marlondeanbellot.7945 Ebay and Aliexpress.
@lopo8000
@lopo8000 3 жыл бұрын
are those tubes made of pvc?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I had them laying around from another project. You can use anything to support the work.
@lopo8000
@lopo8000 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth i mean the tubes for the water? i have a similar setup, but i don't like the smell of the pvc tubes which were recommended what else can i use?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
I just used vinyl tubing from the hardware store. It's cheap and non-reactive with the solution.
@moldybread6720
@moldybread6720 3 жыл бұрын
how much does the equipment cost in total ?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't shop around, probably between $120-150 US.
@sirgilbertcartieriii6243
@sirgilbertcartieriii6243 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearthcan I get a list of what to look for? Every time I search ECM machine up I get something that cost 3k-9,000$ P.S (If you can’t tell me that’s cool idk if it’s against the rules to post a list of things to get.)
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirgilbertcartieriii6243 IvanTheTroll has a very comprehensive guide for equipment and processes. Look on Odysee or Lbry for his ECM barrel guide.
@sirgilbertcartieriii6243
@sirgilbertcartieriii6243 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordkyleofearth thank you! Didn’t actually think you would reply that fast lol!
@ratelimited
@ratelimited 3 жыл бұрын
making me act up
@harlanhansell5280
@harlanhansell5280 Жыл бұрын
Clicked on the video because I thought it was for making meth im severely disappointed
@oiyaidiot
@oiyaidiot 9 ай бұрын
Why you stop?
@lordkyleofearth
@lordkyleofearth 9 ай бұрын
KZfaq is not a supportive platform for content. I'm still active, just not here 😉
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