ECOFLOW 220 Watt Bifacial Solar panel. Power in the shade??

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Жыл бұрын

Quick review and test of this new 220 watt bifacial solar panel. See power out put and a comparison and how it even makes power when its shaded??
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@jeffjones4619 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on hitting 20K!! Just shows how well done your videos are made. Keep them coming!

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

👍🏼😉

@Outdoor-Adventures Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, Ecoflow needs to improved on their panel stand.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yup redesign of some sort.

@Dessert_x_Tat 2 ай бұрын

I am going to put the beach towel underneath. It is a cheap and washable option. And it can be hooked up to the sliding door. Neat. Parallel wiring is it. Thank you guys. :)

@eddieburk9153 Жыл бұрын

I am a newbie and I love the way you explain this to me... thank you thank you thank you

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped ..👍🏼😀

@billcsho Жыл бұрын

I made a stand for the 220W bifacial panel using PVC trims. I actually got up to over 210W last week on a partly cloudy day in Michigan.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

That’s great numbers. The panel performs well once you ditch the cover that acts as a stand. That should have been different 👍🏼

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

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@yvesluyens5427 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your great video that provides real and useful information. I have this 220W panel and I am very happy with the output. My best output is 198W. I tried getting more out by using mirrors shining sunlight at the back but 198W seemed to be the max I could get. I was also impressed by the 20W I got under grey cloudy sky. I found the EcoFlow products pricy but of very high quality. You get what you pay for. Greetings from Belgium.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Yes they do perform well even under cloudy skis seem to provide more power then most the competitors..😀👍🏼

@Globetrotter-1 4 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends I don't understand why you get so low power results. Even during very low angle winter sunshine in February, I still get about 230Watts into the Delta 2 from the 220W panels simply balanced against a fence in a grassy field. I think the cover/bag/stand is decent for carrying the heavy panels, but very clumsy used to hold up the panels. Much better to lean it against a wall, fence, tree etc.

@bsylvia1 3 ай бұрын

Try setting the EcoFlow panels on an emergency Mylar blanket & you’ll improve what the panels draw in. I’ve been using the emergency blanket & been really impressed with the results, which are better than 198W most of the time (while under direct sunlight).

@debidee5548 9 ай бұрын

When the panels were standing upright without the case that's probably the ideal angle for the panels. Besides that you could throw down a white tarp put the case on that it'll protect the case and give you that white reflection for the bifacial

@geod3589 2 ай бұрын

One year later - The 220 now comes with a metal stand, no more using the carrying case.

@rayw8252 12 күн бұрын

Three metal stands held on by elastic yeah. And it seems more square-ish in shape rather than rectangular like in the video.

@dipstick5869 Жыл бұрын

A 160w panel was included in my Ecoflow Power Pro package. I like that the panel is lightweight, compared to my other panel's, but I haven't decided how I'll be setting it up yet. It's good to know that it works well in partial shade. Thanks for this review Johnny!

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

I don’t think that one is bifacial So not sure it will work exactly the same. I assume if one panel gets shaded then half will be out then when the next panel gets shaded the whole thing will be pretty much dead.

@dipstick5869 Жыл бұрын

@@johnnysweekends Ok, thanks!👍

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Let me know how that one works though. Curious 👍🏼

@dipstick5869 Жыл бұрын

@@johnnysweekends Will do!

@LuchoMBravo 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your review. Interestingly enough, I had the same sentiments about the awkwardness of getting the panel out of the case, and setting it up. Glad that we agree. Your video helped me understand that I had my setup with the wrong side upfront. I had assumed that the cables should be in the back and was disappointed, because a cheaper panel provided 155w, and this ecoflow only went up to 145. I need to go out and retest. Your review helped me appreciate the Ecoflow's quality and renewed my interest in keeping it. In addition, you provided an answer to the question what are these straps for? Thank you again.

@johnnysweekends 10 ай бұрын

😀👍🏼

@RandyZimmerman-pp5wj Жыл бұрын

Like that you did real world test

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It’s the only way to test..😀👍🏼

@rjbfreelander2 Жыл бұрын

Ok it's expensive but man I love that 220w EF panel. Use it to charge my Ecoflow River Mini W, River MAx, River Pro and Delta 1300. Just need to move to a country that has less crap weather now lol

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Lol yea that would help. I live in the second sunniest city in our nation 👍🏼😂

@ohdirtracer Жыл бұрын

Excellent 👍

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Thank you and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀

@joshgamingyt9766 Жыл бұрын

This is in fact waterproof not like the other panels which are only splash-proof.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Well many solar panels are weather rated to leave outside all day. Now sure your not going to submerge them.

@Electronzap Жыл бұрын

Nice test. Companies definitely shouldn't make a string of panels where their inidividual power output is dependent on other panels.

@BlueDroneBlues Жыл бұрын

I bought a couple cheap ass adult size lawn chairs, disconnected the arm rests on both lined them up and placed my EcoFlow 160 on it and it works perfect. The panel is about 2 feet up and is pretty straight at a decent 45˚ angle. It can take some decent wind without tipping over. This offers protection from the dirt, rocks, cement and other junk that can do damage and cause fading overtime not to the EcoFlow solar panel, but to the case as well. I paid $10 per chair. Pretty sweet deal and the chairs fold right up and it is far cheaper than making your own stand. From my testing you can use a panel up to 220w and it should hold up just fine. I did try using my Bluetti 350w solar panel but due to the 3' width and 8' Length it was just too big without a 3rd lawn chair. It would hold fine with three, but not very wind resistant because of the weight and how high up it would be. Maybe, make some metal braces you could add and that would help it in the wind. I will probably just get some soft rubber pads I can place down for the Bluetti 350w solar panel to help protect it from damage.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Ohh nice that seems like it will work great..👍🏼

@seabreze 10 ай бұрын

the white of the case relects light to back of panel providing some extra wattage.

@jkyle01 Жыл бұрын

Just got these panels. Set them up on my south facing deck (June 15) in CT and was amazed at the results. The minute the sun came out from behind a cloud I checked my EcoFlow app and found the panels were inputting 228 watts! I am ver unhappy with the case, for all the reasons you mentioned. I think I am going to sew/construct my own stand that mimics the stand feature of the case, in order to save the REAL case.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yes good panel, poor case lol. Not sure what they were thinking

@happybanana3040 Жыл бұрын

I love the fact the Ecoflow used tempered glass in this solar panels. Thinner yet tougher.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

True but there is a limit. I purposely flexed it a little to see where the breaking point is….. I see can these getting damaged and not working so good later 😂

@jkyle01 Жыл бұрын

@@johnnysweekends I got nervous trying to manhandle them into the stupid case holder, especially when you're gripping at the top. I thought I heard a tiny 'crack' sound. 😳 How would you know if they really were cracked?

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

You will see a split in the coating form later which more then likely will be fine unless its through a cell, which then output will drop a little.

@xraykadiddlehopper8067 8 ай бұрын

After using this set up I agree the case/stand is the only negative thing on these and for over $500 Ecoflow should have a better stand set up.

@cmgtafan 5 ай бұрын

Would putting reflectix on the ground behind panel work?

@nicolasstokes9297 Жыл бұрын

What I like best is that this is actually a two-in-one panel. One is at 220W the other side is 155W.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yes but still the max is only going to be 220 watts. I played with it a little more after the video and the reflection on the back is very minimal. I think if the sun is out and shinning through it’s already doing it’s job.

@1stRanger Жыл бұрын

Well yes, but actually no. You won't be able to use both at the same time unless you design a sophisticated contraption able to illuminate both sides and there's zero sense to use lower panel instead of a higher one. This design is a gimmick and only ads pointless weight to it imho.

@jkyle01 Жыл бұрын

@@johnnysweekends without trying to do anything reflective off the back, I got 228 watts in full south sun, in mid-June, in CT. 😃

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Good numbers 👍🏼

@bsylvia1 3 ай бұрын

Try setting the EcoFlow panels on an emergency Mylar blanket & you’ll improve what the panels draw in. I’ve been using the emergency blanket & been really impressed with the results, which are better than 200W most of the time (while under direct sunlight).

@alyujchik Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your review. Do you know how 160W EcoFlow solar panel works in shade?

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Sorry no I have not tested it personally

@JoshuaRex 3 ай бұрын

how long will your eco flow take to share using this panel?

@alexpetrov8871 Жыл бұрын

Using a second solar panel as a light reflector is a brilliant idea, assuming the fact that the panel is designed to absorb light rather than reflect it.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Any glass panel will definitely reflect. After installing many on roofs when the sun hits just right,,,,,.ahh your blinded lol. Of course you can see a mirror like reflection in solar fields or and home or building with panels. Like a mirror

@justinkeefe3456 9 ай бұрын

What about using a photographers reflector and just staking it down flat under the panel for the backside? Just a thought

@johnnysweekends 9 ай бұрын

That could work. Anything to reflect some light back. I really just don’t like the case. Horrible design

@BlueDroneBlues Жыл бұрын

I have the 160w EcoFlow solar panel and the idea of using the case as a stand is just ridiculous. It is a beautiful case and I don't want to destroy it because I have to use it as a stand. There as to be some simple alternative for a stand to make this work where it is even more lined up. The stand isn't really enough. The outsides just flop around and there is zero support for them. Even with a couple of my complaints I think the build quality is very nice and it works very well. Working on schematics to make a simple stand for it. Save material, but at the sometime make it durable and easy to disassemble when not in use. Should be fun.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Exactly I don’t like using my nice case when I wanna set this up maybe in the dirt or whatever. I think it would have been nice to have a different support system and not wear out your nice case..🤷🏼‍♂️

@gatsbylee2773 2 ай бұрын

My 160 solar panel ( echo ) is different under the partial shade.

@Prospaect 11 күн бұрын

hm, so the panels are ip68, but I take it... that the case you need to use as a stand, isn't... right?

@josiahberry8743 6 ай бұрын

Question. I have the EcoFlow 400 watt portable/foldable panel. I test them with my multi meter before using them the first time. I multiply the voltage by the amperage, and get the wattage. When I plug it into the Delta Pro, I always get a wattage input about 20 to 25% lower than my multi meter measurement. Is that normal? It can’t be more than 5 or 10 seconds that goes by between taking the measurement and plugging the panel into the battery and I measure directly from the XT60 connector. Your meter showed a reading 4 to 5% lower compared to your battery…

@johnnysweekends 6 ай бұрын

A couple things to consider here. One is conditions, temp, clear skis and more all play a part in total performance of the panel. Two, almost every panel made will never produce rated watts unless it’s under rated. Another thing is when you are checking with a meter you are testing an open circuit voltage, VOC, so there is no “load” on the panel yet. Once plugged in a load will be placed on it and you will see new numbers that are now your Pmax or also Vmpp. Basically maximum power point voltage which is the controller inside the EcoFlow unit or other solar charge controllers trying to get the most amount of volts and current from the device. And if the conditions are not great and the solar panel is poorly angled it could be way less than rated. That panel in good conditions should give a good 380 watts or a little more or less.

@josiahberry8743 6 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends Ah, yes. The resistance, got it. The rated Vmp multiplied by the Imp gets me a wattage 14% lower than multiplying the open circuit voltage by the short circuit current. If I add 5 to 10% to that from what I assume is just the additional energy lost in the charging process of the Delta Pro, that gets me to that 20 to 25% difference I was asking about. How do they calculate what the load will be on the panel to get those published Vmp and Imp ratings? Do they base it off of one of their battery units? Or maybe MPPT chargers have the same or similar load… And with the rating, most definitely. Anything over 90% of the rating of a given panel in perfect conditions is good in my book. I’m in WI so it’s a low sun angle right now. Looking forward to summer testing. By eyeballing the angle, I got about 325 watts during peak sun hours on a perfect day 9 days before winter solstice this year. AQI index was around 50.

@z-juan4854 Жыл бұрын

i wonder how it will perform using mirror reflecting light at the back of the panel

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Someone did a test and percentage gain was minimal for the effort. Especially being a portable panel it does well with out it. So not gonna carry a mirror around 👍🏼

@AquaTech225 Жыл бұрын

Set it up on top of a $2-3 silver survival blanket. Them Mylar ones. Wouldn’t be nothing to stake the corners of the blanket to the ground an set up the panels on top of it as normal. Not much added effort

@craigwickham7963 Жыл бұрын

@@AquaTech225 that’s genius! Also means the case isn’t sitting in the dirt!

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I don’t like my case getting hammered 😬😂

@AquaTech225 Жыл бұрын

Set the panels out on top of them $2-3 silver survival blankets. Since their made to reflect off the sun ect. They weigh an cost nothing

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yea over a 6hr period you may gain a extra 5% or so. If left in place for days that could add up. Unfortunately I really dislike setting this up. But its also not meant to be left out for long periods. So I don’t use it much

@simp502 Жыл бұрын

Kinda noticed that this solar panel is quite smaller than other 220W panels.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yes it is a little smaller. Rigid panels are just slightly larger depending on brand and design.

@sampleoffers1978 5 ай бұрын

Indoor bifacial panels are in the newsfeed. They use any light in the home, including sun. Lightening bug enzyme can be genetically added to bacteria, placed in thin cases covering panels and then such panels can be stacked in attic, basement, garage etc. Maybe rented from power company with battery instead of transmission lines everywhere.

@hardtruth2039 9 ай бұрын

Ecoflow folding solar panel case/stand is a huge design failure. I say that as I own 6 400w panels. I built some temporary folding frames to put them on. I also use magnet studs and wing nuts to mount them to our patio’s metal roof.

@johnnysweekends 9 ай бұрын

Yea the case is bad. But overall the panel performs well but it’s not meant for permanent deployments just here and there.

@undefeatedgaul3201 Жыл бұрын

You should probably read the instructions on the panel again. That’s not how you set it up. And it makes a big difference. It doesn’t touch the ground and it’s more rigid if done properly

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Weather it’s set up correctly in the poorly designed carrying case it won’t change the output. In direct sunlight when aligned you get what you get. And being that it has memory it won’t fold out flat and stays bent on each end. After many hours it then relaxes which is fine. It’s a great panel with a not so great stand. I don’t like using my nice case in the dirt or moisture getting it all dirty or possible wear through the case. Good panel, poor stand.

@mikewazowski2040 Жыл бұрын

I need this panel since it is waterproof I can just leave it outside rain or shine.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yup true. Most portable panels the whole case would be saturated and gross. Although if you use this case as the stand it would be to. I would make a separate stand for this one

@baneverything5580 Жыл бұрын

You can get at least six 100 watt glass panels for the same price.

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yup true. But no one would want to pack those around. Those are more a permanent mount. These are meant for temporary portability.

@inter18 Жыл бұрын

What stand you can buy for this. Diferent from one o ready have. Thanks

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

There isn’t One unless you build or make something. And only buy this if it’s more for portable once in a while use.

@BigBox609 5 ай бұрын

dose it charge anker 767?

@johnnysweekends 5 ай бұрын

Yes, a solar panel is a solar panel it doesn’t care what it charges as long as you dont go over the max input voltage

@Chris-yy7qc 10 ай бұрын

I personally do not like these flexible solar modules. Theyre just too delicate, break easily and often they lack a proper stand. I bought suitcase style mobile solar panels and would buy them again. They are strong and sturdy and the extra weight is not really a problem unless you plan to carry it for long distances. Plus: If I dont need them anymore at any time in the future, I can always remove the hinges and mount them anywhere I want, just like normal solar panels.

@johnnysweekends 10 ай бұрын

I will admit, the stand could have been designed definitely different. The panel itself performs well, but overall the flexibility of it and taking it up and down is prone to being damaged much quicker.

@mikepfeifer1753 9 ай бұрын

I just got these panels today. Out of the gate, the set up was one of the worst experiences I have had! Great performance but crap for set up.

@johnnysweekends 9 ай бұрын

Yup, not sure what they were thinking. Especially something meant to be traveled and set up and taking down repeatedly.

@WizzRacing Жыл бұрын

These things hate heat...More suited for cold climates. Where they shine...

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Just about any panel loves cool temps

@WizzRacing Жыл бұрын

@@johnnysweekends Not like these.. I got a Renogy Bifacial 220.. It gets cool. It will push out 280 watts...

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

That’s also a rigid panel, again totally different as they will always do better than a flex panel. Flexible portable is more about convenience 👍🏼

@WizzRacing Жыл бұрын

@@johnnysweekends That is not a flex panel.. it's a fold able suitcase. They just removed the frame..

@1stRanger Жыл бұрын

That design doesn't make any sense... The design choice to add a second row of panels on the back is questionable on its own. But then they design a stand that covers a good half of it. XD

@johnnysweekends Жыл бұрын

Yea the stand really is interesting. I think that could use some work. The benefit to these is temporary mounting

@grahamkearnon6682 6 ай бұрын

What a cheap flimsy panel, probably degrad in the first season. Biracial panels generally put out 20% more power. Ecoflow are a greedy brand, look elsewhere for more bang for your buck.