Economizer Logic Troubleshooting

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David Harty

David Harty

8 жыл бұрын

Basic Economizer Logic

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@jonahswinton8102
@jonahswinton8102 Жыл бұрын
I've been struggling to understand how economizers work for a while now, and this is by far the most in-depth explanation i've seen. Thank you so much for your help.
@juanc597
@juanc597 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic , very good and profesional. Thank you sir
@TOOLMAN4hvac
@TOOLMAN4hvac 7 жыл бұрын
DAVID THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST ECONOMIZER TUTORIAL i HAVE EVER SEEN!! THANKS
@greggstrangways4752
@greggstrangways4752 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely the best video I've ever seen on economizer troubleshooting and even describing just how one works. Very nice job!
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the kind comments ya'll, This is my way of paying back/ forward what my Friend and Mentor Jim Schaper (Now Retired) did for me when he selflessly shared his vast knowledge and experience with me .. Special Thanks to "Jedi Jim"
@gmguy156
@gmguy156 6 жыл бұрын
David Harty Im shocked you dont have more subscribers
@e.j.griffin1758
@e.j.griffin1758 6 жыл бұрын
David Harty Greatly appreciated, your economize videos has helped me a lot. Thank you.
@jiangbian76
@jiangbian76 5 жыл бұрын
Just have worked in field for 4 months. Learned the concept of Economizer from your excellent videos. Thank you very much.
@b3d3g69
@b3d3g69 7 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL EXPLANATION!!!! Now I feel a little more confident working on these types of units.. Bravo!!
@gilbertmwansa6943
@gilbertmwansa6943 7 жыл бұрын
Hey David, I just want to appreciate the knowledge you have imparted to me. You are an excellent expert with extensive knowledge and a very good teacher who explains clearly. I now understand the Economizers, Thank you very much:)
@syndikatehvac
@syndikatehvac 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks dave. Nice diagram. Easier to understand than reading carrier literature.
@jeffersonwlafitte
@jeffersonwlafitte 6 жыл бұрын
Best economizer training video out there! Wow!! From your kitchen, no less.
@orlandorizzo5780
@orlandorizzo5780 5 жыл бұрын
And A Bag of Doritos!!! HAHAHHA
@ask4george1
@ask4george1 11 ай бұрын
When I was in the apprenticeship program, they never went over how that works. I was always so dam confused on how to troubleshoot that module. Now I finally know, thanks !
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 11 ай бұрын
You are welcome
@BurnabyCorey
@BurnabyCorey 3 жыл бұрын
David, thank you kindly for the precise explanation of these economizer sequences. It’s the best explanation I’ve ever seen and it is much appreciated!
@mrlatnemis1849
@mrlatnemis1849 5 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more videos like this! Very informative!!! Thank you for putting in the time to do these videos!! 🙏🏽
@albotiger7268
@albotiger7268 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video my friend very easy to follow and understand! Cheers!
@hvaclifewithalex4051
@hvaclifewithalex4051 7 жыл бұрын
thank you very much, exelent job sharing your knowledge!
@jaymartin5095
@jaymartin5095 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic explanation with visuals.
@mark.r8900
@mark.r8900 4 жыл бұрын
WOW!!! just an amazing tutorial. The best I've seen on youtube. Thank you so much.
@theunit5939
@theunit5939 7 жыл бұрын
David your videos are incredibly informative, your videos help me beyond believe, keep em coming man thanks again my friend.
@nakiapringley5391
@nakiapringley5391 2 жыл бұрын
Great video brother 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You, hope it helps
@thecurious6721
@thecurious6721 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great video 👍
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 9 ай бұрын
You’re welcome !!
@thoydouangvilay3783
@thoydouangvilay3783 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome video!!!!! Thank you for your clear explanation! Awesome! Thank you!
@davidwolff4590
@davidwolff4590 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, I’ve come back to this video several times for a refresher while working on a economize.
@razzthokhee1189
@razzthokhee1189 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video,, very informal, thanks,,,
@randomyoutuber6992
@randomyoutuber6992 6 ай бұрын
Great video
@Brian17177
@Brian17177 5 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent training video thank you
@jimcuster5318
@jimcuster5318 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge...
@Pennconst101
@Pennconst101 2 жыл бұрын
Great walk through! Thank you.
@guardianmn
@guardianmn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, David. Very educational indeed, sir more please and thank you
@abbottmechanicalservicesll4464
@abbottmechanicalservicesll4464 3 жыл бұрын
24 year tech. Consider myself a pretty good tech. However economizer has always kicked my ask. I always figure it out. Within 15 minutes I figured out an obsolete part. Thank you very much you are simple and very helpful.
@alexescoto3116
@alexescoto3116 Жыл бұрын
I have never had anyone simply this in such a way that it actually makes sense.
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I did it the way I wish someone would've explained it for me 20 years ago !!
@lancerudy9934
@lancerudy9934 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video ,keep them coming. Thanks
@msantiago1976
@msantiago1976 5 жыл бұрын
Great teaching and explanation. I enjoyed watching your videos & have saved several for future referencing. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@GabeDT567
@GabeDT567 5 жыл бұрын
great video . I don't work on rooftops a lot . today i worked on a carrier 2 stage RTU with a carrier economizer control . 2nd stage was not coming on . this video explains what happened and why it did. i wish I could keep this videos in my learning records LOl. this is gold . thanks
@mrgreen9086
@mrgreen9086 3 жыл бұрын
Great video really appreciate the knowledge thank you
@EyesofIllusion
@EyesofIllusion 4 жыл бұрын
I been looking for a good tech to explain more better on economizer and you sir are number 1 when explaining. I now have a better understanding because of how you explained it. Thank you🙏
@orlylandy
@orlylandy 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video to bad it took so long for me to find it. Its straight and to the point. Congrats on this video.
@rajg7037
@rajg7037 2 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing and so helpful. I came back to it every time I have to look at one of these controllers. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share your knowledge!
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome, thamks for the kind words
@garypoplin4599
@garypoplin4599 6 ай бұрын
I’ve not had a bad economizer to troubleshoot; but, now I’m confident I can efficiently service one if a problem arises. Great overal understanding and traps for new players!
@marcelangers9953
@marcelangers9953 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Hart Thank you!!
@xraybravo7180
@xraybravo7180 3 жыл бұрын
Great work sir much appreciated it
@brucecrutchfield3473
@brucecrutchfield3473 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Not much economizers down here in Florida so they can be a little more time consuming to figure out. Now I have a better understanding of them, thanks!
@maxmaxx284
@maxmaxx284 8 жыл бұрын
Hey David, thanks a lot for the video! Definitely not something you have to do but I am glad you put it up here. I am an apprentice myself and have worked with a few Mechanics now that would sometimes take the Y2 terminal off and tape it or put a marrett on it. I've spent a little bit of time playing with economizers to try and understand them and found that you did need the Y2 terminal. I didn't know however that the module actually communicates with Y2 and can still economize and use a compressor. So far I have been setting up a Time Delay on make with the unit to energize Y2 after Y1 has been energized for a few minutes. This might sound like a ridiculous step to take but it was all I knew haha. Anyways, thanks again for the video it was very helpful!
@lancerudy9934
@lancerudy9934 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice we all this kind of training. Thanks
@coachchris548
@coachchris548 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson
@wildoutrudeboy
@wildoutrudeboy 16 күн бұрын
Thx for explaining how economizer works.
@pincheburro956
@pincheburro956 6 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Excellent information
@l.crossjr
@l.crossjr 5 ай бұрын
Very nice
@itsmemsti
@itsmemsti 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thank you
@char0507
@char0507 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing job first one in manyyyyy that helped me tz
@eric4467
@eric4467 7 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Very well explained.
@jorgeestrada3894
@jorgeestrada3894 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@jmmiller0383
@jmmiller0383 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Saved so much time and frustration!
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome, glad it helped you
@hvacr24
@hvacr24 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Dave, Thank you. Grand Rapids, MI Griffin Hall
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 11 ай бұрын
My pleasure, I installed a EMS system at the H&M in the woodland mall in Grand rapids like 3-4 yrs ago
@hvacr24
@hvacr24 11 ай бұрын
@@davidharty3653 im working on putting in a honeywell jade w7220a1000 in a york unit. i have temp and enthalpy sensors, honeywell sells them a a kit. maybe we can go over how to convert from York's economizer board set up to w7220a1000. just a small 5 ton york, the temps are still well about 53* so no huge emergency.
@edilsonserafim4784
@edilsonserafim4784 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing you knowledge I learned so much from you video.
@invisibles362
@invisibles362 3 ай бұрын
Extremely good in5👍
@PBS-nm1uu
@PBS-nm1uu 7 жыл бұрын
great video thanks
@kabu7073
@kabu7073 4 жыл бұрын
Really great, thanks.
@SlashBurp
@SlashBurp 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you verymuch!
@FireandFrostHVAC
@FireandFrostHVAC 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@hvacgabe5889
@hvacgabe5889 7 жыл бұрын
great video. helped me out today. enthalpy sensor was mounted in unit. mounted outside unit on intake. started to work properly.
@daryllneuburger4946
@daryllneuburger4946 5 жыл бұрын
Great job 👍 thank you so much you made everything so easy to understand
@shanegreen268
@shanegreen268 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Now I understand. Great video 👍👍👍👍
@khayberadil
@khayberadil 4 жыл бұрын
The best explanation ever
@GrandpaJimSchaper
@GrandpaJimSchaper 8 жыл бұрын
Since parts are becoming less available for these you might consider a video on how to convert to Jade. The only functional difference is that you need to have the Jade module powered all the time. Not just on a live G signal.
@ekdeepsekhon3274
@ekdeepsekhon3274 7 жыл бұрын
why does the jade have to energized all the time?
@mikemalone6103
@mikemalone6103 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and detailed explanation. Much easier to follow than the OEM explains. When economies fails, most just pull the connector and install the jumper to eliminate the economist because the customers don't want to pay for these expensive option repairs especially when the anted of return is usually less than the expense. Still think you missed your calling, should ,vet been a teacher. Your ability to communicate is excellent.
@Mgear1217
@Mgear1217 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. It helps me understand how it works.
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 6 жыл бұрын
metal gear , this is why I do these, trying to pay forward all the guys who helped me
@16valve64
@16valve64 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot sir
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 2 жыл бұрын
Most welcome
@christiantinsel6483
@christiantinsel6483 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'm a sparky just getting into this stuff. And this helps a lot. Any insights on jade controllers? As a layman they seem to run similar to this but I camt figure out how to modulate the economizer enough to prevent positive pressure in this store.
@hangngoaigiare
@hangngoaigiare 6 жыл бұрын
very clear instructions, thx
@soleilsoleil8287
@soleilsoleil8287 5 жыл бұрын
i love this video and the way the teacher explains thx so much more videos please I m an apprenctice in canada hvacr
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 5 жыл бұрын
Soleil Soleil Thanks for the kind words, We’re neighbors/ I’m in Minneapolis, Minnesota
@soleilsoleil8287
@soleilsoleil8287 5 жыл бұрын
that s awesome keep in touch and more videos when possible i wanna get very good at economizers !!!
@curtbrooks7495
@curtbrooks7495 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man huge help
@calmdownplzz1662
@calmdownplzz1662 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@winkhvac62
@winkhvac62 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@spiromatsikas2473
@spiromatsikas2473 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for sharing. What if your unit control board only has a y1 terminal and would you bring the y2 wire form tstat directly to your economizer?
@yrwyreazureAjuhtrea7
@yrwyreazureAjuhtrea7 Жыл бұрын
Is the mixed air temp sensor drawn in the right place? other diagrams seem to show it located before the evap coil.
@Jimmyyadayada
@Jimmyyadayada Жыл бұрын
Good Stuff!! Thank You
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Omar219s
@Omar219s 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for this vid
@newagedawn1358
@newagedawn1358 5 жыл бұрын
solid tech information, really enjoyed this vid, you are a good teacher!!!!!!, what happened to the jule ???
@fourdragonv2
@fourdragonv2 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have to tell the thermostat that it is a 2-stage, even if it's a 1 stage? Or do you just have to run the Y2 wire as if it did have two stages? Great video. Very informative and thorough.
@Alain0775
@Alain0775 4 жыл бұрын
2 Words: THANK YOU
@jackmcdonald7391
@jackmcdonald7391 4 жыл бұрын
I used a 1 stage tstat on a unit with 1 compressor and an economizer.Will it bring on the compressor in the summer? Or do I need to change the tstat
@mcvaylitt
@mcvaylitt 3 жыл бұрын
So can you by pass it buy jumping 1 and 2? To force cooling?
@hvacgabe5889
@hvacgabe5889 7 жыл бұрын
also there's a power exhaust installed with no literature. can you recommend a site for the literature. it's a York. I can get model and serial if needed. thank you.
@mrgreen9086
@mrgreen9086 3 жыл бұрын
What if you put a jumper between y1 and y2 at the terminal strip? Instead of running a dedicated wire for y2
@jakej81
@jakej81 3 жыл бұрын
Could you explain the operation of the w7212 Logic when co2 sensors are connected to the aq and aq1 terminals. Does the co2 sensor take over even when free cool is available? Great video! It was very helpful.
@timothypawlowski2286
@timothypawlowski2286 7 жыл бұрын
David, Awesome video. You mentioned at the end that you can test some actuators with the 9 volt battery. Do you know which honeywell acuators are 9Volt or where I can find that out? I have a carrier unit with a W7212 mounted on top of the M7215a actuator. Thanks
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 7 жыл бұрын
Timothy Pawlowski M7200 series actuator uses a 2-10v signal for its proportional control The 2 in 7200 tells you that actuator it's a 2-10v
@timothypawlowski2286
@timothypawlowski2286 7 жыл бұрын
thanks dave.
@AZ-gz4cf
@AZ-gz4cf 8 ай бұрын
Best tutorial I’ve seen
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate you !!
@nickyengle9668
@nickyengle9668 9 ай бұрын
Thks !!!
@xiaojie895
@xiaojie895 7 жыл бұрын
if the cooling call is still unsatisfied even free cooling plus #1 mechanical cooling, how can we set the wire to start the #2 compressor, or this is impossible happen(i mean free cooling + #1 compressor #2 compressor ).
@Brendan_Clancy
@Brendan_Clancy 3 жыл бұрын
To test a compressor during spring maintenance can you jump 1 & 2 on the logic board to energize the compressor contactor?
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Jump 1-2 to test 1st stage compressor Jump 3-4 to test 2nd stage compressor
@kamechanicalhvac2891
@kamechanicalhvac2891 5 жыл бұрын
Great video brother ..... Can you make a video on converting the W7459 OR W7212 to a Honeywell jade economizer controller
@lancerudy9934
@lancerudy9934 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you use blue at the oat
@tradelife2802
@tradelife2802 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Definitely helps me understand economizer function a lot better. However, I’m more of a nacho cheese Doritos guy. Still, great video though.
@stuartewoldt1513
@stuartewoldt1513 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say this is the best video ever. It would be hard NOT to understand
@abbottmechanicalservicesll4464
@abbottmechanicalservicesll4464 3 жыл бұрын
How do I save incase I forget
@reedrutkowski50
@reedrutkowski50 6 жыл бұрын
Question, how does G get energized without power on R (broken by G open contacts)?
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 6 жыл бұрын
Reed Rutkowski / The “R” terminal has a constant 24v power supplied to it from the transformer at all times, I just didn’t draw that into my schematic here and drew out my schematic knowing it was hot but without ever showing it. I cant believe I never drew that into my print :)) Good Find Reed and thanks for sharing that, and I’m the guy who’s always preaching to never assume anything....
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 6 жыл бұрын
Reed Rutkowski/ The R terminal has a constant 24v power supplied to it from the transformer at all times, I just didn’t draw that into my schematic here and drew out my schematic knowing it was hot but without ever showing it. I can’t believe I never drew that into my print :)) Good Find Reed, and thanks for sharing that / And I’m the guy who’s always preaching to never assume anything...
@reedrutkowski50
@reedrutkowski50 6 жыл бұрын
David Harty, Thanks for the reply Sir.
@blkcrappyescorts
@blkcrappyescorts 2 жыл бұрын
🤙🏼
@capitolrefrigerationheatin7501
@capitolrefrigerationheatin7501 Жыл бұрын
is the MAT sensor polarity sensitive?
@davidharty3653
@davidharty3653 Жыл бұрын
No its not MAT = Not polarity sensitive Enthalpy Sensor = Is polarity sensitive
@razzthokhee1189
@razzthokhee1189 7 жыл бұрын
I meant to say ( informative)
@xiaojie895
@xiaojie895 7 жыл бұрын
8:50-9:30 still confusing. why water will leak if only #2 evaporator work? the moisture into the air will condense on the surface of fin and flow down to the drain pan.
@hangngoaigiare
@hangngoaigiare 7 жыл бұрын
water not falling fast enough and the wind from blower fan will blow water all over. When both evaporators work however water less likely be blow off the 1 evaporator due to lower temperature of the evaporator.
@semperparatus8163
@semperparatus8163 5 жыл бұрын
I think the most difficult thing to understand about this, is how did this receive 8 dislikes? What’s up my Brother from another mother!
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