Eddi - free hot water from your PV array

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At Home With Green Energy

At Home With Green Energy

Жыл бұрын

Eddi gives me "free" hot water from surplus solar energy. My eddi was installed a year ago, along with a PV array and an ASHP. There was so much new technology all over the house that I didn't properly understand what I'd got. And no installer took the time to explain it to me properly, leaving me to figure most of it out for myself.
To help me do this, I've made this video - and a series of others that you can find on my channel @AtHomeWithGreenEnergy I'm sharing the videos in the hope that they might help other people, like me, who are perhaps still a bit earlier in the process... maybe considering getting some of this kind of "green energy" equipment installed.
I'm not a sales rep, I'm not an installer, I'm simply doing this to try to encourage (in a small way) the uptake of green energy solutions. Comments and questions are welcome - I'll do my best to answer them. And if these videos help you, please do share them. Thanks.

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@desryan8182
@desryan8182 6 ай бұрын
Great clarity of explanation in this video. Well done as I am tired of the BABBLE in so many other presentation videos. I found it so helpful and I await the installation of my Solar Panels and system in the coming weeks.😇
@robhoulden
@robhoulden 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, this is by far the best video explaining how the Eddi works, I’ve had my Eddi for 6 months now and I’ve saved myself £148 that I would have spent heating the water. I like the new update they have installed because it automatically shares the solar power between the battery and Eddi in the morning for the 1st few hours then it charges the Battery then goes back to heating the water. Great video
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, Rob. Good to hear that someone else likes the eddi too! We have had loads of trouble with the main contractor for our installation (ASHP & PV) but with everything now resolved (I hope) we are about to get a safe pair of hands in to fit a couple more CT clamps and to configure the Eddi so that we can see everything in the myenergi app. Thanks again for your kind words.
@roezenaclamity7021
@roezenaclamity7021 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this information video👍. I got my solor system with Eddie put in a week ago and like you said they did not really explain it at all, after watching your video I understand it much better. Thanks again 😊👍
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks for letting me know.
@slartybartfarst9737
@slartybartfarst9737 9 ай бұрын
Superb explanation of the Eddi, clearly common sense self generation system, how it should be.
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@SanaagSomaliland
@SanaagSomaliland Жыл бұрын
I thought about this option but eventually settled with replacing the whole thing with a more power efficient Heat-pump solution which uses 1/3 the power of my previous hot water system. The cost difference was $500 more when going Heat pump. My old system was 7 years old so it was about the end of its life anyway.
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Sounds good. I'm not an evangelist for any particular solution. It's so hard to work out what the best solution is. I think the more we can share our experiences with different solutions, the better the choices we will be able to make in the future.
@synthwave7
@synthwave7 9 ай бұрын
Just want to mention : I export power to my immersion heater when my Sunsynk Solar system reaches 100% battery SOC. This hapens daily from 12h00 till 16h00 on sunny days. The AUX port on the Sunsynk Inverter has a relay that kicks in and surplus energy from the solar panels are used to charge the batteries while power is sent to the immersion heater. The export kick in percentage can easily be adjusted to send power to the immersion heater.
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Sounds good. I'm still struggling to work out exactly what my inverter and battery are doing.
@ianandrew7010
@ianandrew7010 Жыл бұрын
❤ my Eddi best thing about my PV Array 💕
@duncanwilliams3221
@duncanwilliams3221 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great system. Could you give me more details. Ie. I assume there is a tank somewhere if so is the hot water pumped from the tank or gravity fed. I live in a bungalow. Restricted on room in the loft.
@rugbygirlsdadg
@rugbygirlsdadg 11 ай бұрын
​@@duncanwilliams3221 I "think" (based on the supply pressure at the taps) my hot water is gravity fed. My tank is in the airing cupboard upstairs, but the gravity pressure is provided by the cold water tank in the loft immediately above the hot water cylinder. Plumbers please butt in here... 😊
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
Yes, there's a tank. This is a virtual guide to the complete system: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNhdeLRkzarOdaM.html
@smiffysmiffy123
@smiffysmiffy123 9 ай бұрын
A customer wants to use the eddie to power his emersion & an outside socket is this a good idea?
@walters2023
@walters2023 Ай бұрын
Can eddi be programmable for Aircon, also Ev battery.
@barryhaeger4284
@barryhaeger4284 9 ай бұрын
Interesting but the economics is often less straightforward than people think. I used to have the predecessor of the Eddi when it cost £300 and I saw it as a less expensive option to a £3,000 Solar-Thermal add on when I had my Solar PV install 10 years at my previous house. If you are on a FIT tariff then it is as started at around 2:38 "free hot water unless you count the capital cost" and there's the rub since supply and fit is according to a Google search going to cost around £750 (less if part of a larger project) and that's a lot of hot water before break even even on FIT where it doesn't mater if you export or not. However, for the past several years since FIT was dropped using locally generated roof top solar electricity is no longer free to use simply because if you didn't use it you'd be paid for its export. On Octopus depending on your tariff you could be paid as little as 4.5p/kWh as I am or 15p/kWh as my neighbour is any time of day. You could get more with time of day export tariffs. But take my tariff Octopus intelligent where I have 7.5p/kWh import for 6 hours at night which is when my car charges and hot water heats up then when the sun shines the following day my surplus solar after charging my home battery is exported at 4.5p/kWh. So to use Eddi every kWh I'd divert I would have been paid 4.5p. Now doing this it would save me 7.5p/kWh so the saving is 3p/kWh. I use on average 5 kWh per day for hot water so I would save only 15p/day or 365 x £0.15 = £54.75 per year. So how may years before I breakeven £750/£54.75 = 13 years 255 days assuming you have enough surplus solar PV to heat a whole tank 365 days a year - which you won't. Remember that the Eddi has only a 3 year warranty so it needs to work flawlessly for 4 times the warranty period.
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. And you may well be right. My single biggest complaint about all these "green energy solutions" is that they are complex, and the more you get involved with them, the more complicated it all becomes. How do I make sense of the overwhelming volume of data involved? Have I got the time, energy or the talent to figure it all out? Are installers competent to design a complex, cost-effective system and then to install and connect it? Our approach has been (1) get rid of or minimise use of fossil fuels - faced with the climate emergency, this is something that we can do. (2) suck it and see. I don't know if or when we'll get to breakeven, but I know that we've got heating, hot water, and lots of solar-generated electricity, and no gas coming to the house. I'll take that, and see how it goes. Thanks again!
@husainalli
@husainalli 6 ай бұрын
Isnt it better to use the Aux/Smartload/Gen port on Deye or Sunsynk?
@smikedenney222
@smikedenney222 Ай бұрын
Hi, could the Eddi diverter charge an Anker power station. If so how ? Thanks
@lipsee100
@lipsee100 10 ай бұрын
I now value my exported electricity,, Last month Octopus paid me over a hundred pounds ,so now I,m happy to send back to the grid,,and my credit with the energy company is tobe used as a energy store for winter..Thats until the priced falls... Everything has some Value in an economical sense and not sending back to the grid has a cost...
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
When our system was installed (a year ago), it wasn't possible to switch to a feed-in tariff. I looked at doing that with Octopus a couple of months ago and discovered that our installer had not provided the documentation we need to sign up for a such a tariff: MCS Certificate and Distribution Network Operator approval for the installation. Beware suppliers / installers who don't do their job properly!! It's taken a while, but as of today I have that documentation and will now apply to Octopus. Once that's done, I suspect that (like you) we will value our exported electricity more. As you say, everything has some Value in an economical sense, and I confess that I place some value on simplicity. The eddi works in a way that I understand, and I like that.
@andyhibbert3234
@andyhibbert3234 Жыл бұрын
Had my system a few months now (installed back end of 2022). Consists of EV, storage batteries, solar, Eddi and Zappi. I love the App. When I tap tank one, I get Boost settings and an opportunity to select Manual, Scheduled or Stop All but no temperature reading of the water in the tank. Was this a feature that you installed or possibly something that my installer didn't? Presumably you have a thermocouple fitted on the tank somewhere that also connects to the Eddi. Great video by the way!!
@rugbygirlsdadg
@rugbygirlsdadg 11 ай бұрын
That is an extra cost function I believe.
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
Hi Andy. I'm not sure! When I tap "Tank 1" on the app, I'm presented with the opportunities you describe, but below them there's a chart showing "consumption history", and below that there's a Tank 1 reading (currently) showing 0kWh, and another Tank 1 reading showing 48.7 degrees C avg. Is that what you are looking for? I've not noticed it until now. I don't remember anything special being done by the installer, but then he didn't even explain to us how the eddi worked.
@CorndoggyD
@CorndoggyD Жыл бұрын
Any reason why you didnt try adding it into the smart grid function of the ASHP with maybe a smart thermostat? This will allow the ASHP to produce hot water for you which should be more efficient than an immersion?
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
I think I get the gist of what you're saying, but I don't know what the smart grid function of the ASHP is. Quite honestly, we took on board a whole load of new technology without a lot of help from the installer(s). We're almost on top of it now (a year later), and maybe then we'll be able to start fine-tuning it all. Thanks.
@robertsmuggles6871
@robertsmuggles6871 9 ай бұрын
I'd like to connect a few PV wall panels directly to my immersion heater. To get a bit of warm water for free in the summer when I do not use my gas boiler. Not interested in the Eddi - unwanted cost & complexity. Am I being too simplistic ???
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
All I can say is that we have friends who do what you suggest, and who feed back to the grid when the PV array has finished heating the water. Good luck!
@johngore8443
@johngore8443 8 ай бұрын
amazing video thanks so much, quick question, can if i replace my hot water cylinder immersion heating element with a 12v/24v and connect directly to couple of PV will take be enough to slowly heat 250ltr of water, im not expecting to heat to 50c but at least to 30c to 40c?
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Sorry, however, because I'm not technically qualified to answer your question. Someone else might be...?
@rugbygirlsdadg
@rugbygirlsdadg 11 ай бұрын
This all depends.... On the size of your PV array. Whether you have a battery or not. On your import and export rates. On how you would normally heat your hot water (gas/oil/electricity) and what you pay for it. In the UK, you pay around 34p/kWh for standard rate electricity usage, you can get 15p/unit for exports and gas, I think is around 10.4p/kWh. Then there are off-peak electricity rates. There is no simple one-fits-all answer. If you have gas heating and you're on Octopus outgoing at 15p/kWh, purely financially, stick to gas. If you're losing 15p/kWh in lost exports to save 10p/kWh in gas, you're losing money. Obviously if you're trying to save the planet, that's a completely different issue.
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Agreed. I'm not presenting this as a one-fits-all answer to anything, it's just my experience - which started with trying to work out what this Eddi thing was all about... what to expect from it, how to monitor it, how to control it. Per other comments (above), using surplus to heat water means you're not being paid for sending it to the grid (assuming you have a feed-in tariff). But we wanted to get rid of gas - we're not going to save the planet on our own, but every little helps.
@gazzrobb2366
@gazzrobb2366 9 ай бұрын
I’m buying a new build spring 2024 looking to have solar and battery installed how do I get an immersion heater installed? Then don’t have to use the boiler for hot water? Thankyou
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Hope it all goes well for you. I can't advise on immersion heater installation, however. I think you probably need to consult the builder for that.
@rhyme2192
@rhyme2192 10 ай бұрын
What is the difference with monitoring my surplus and turning on the boiler heating electronically myself? Would really like to know!
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
I guess the difference is that the eddi will do this automatically. No need to monitor surplus yourself. If I'm missing something, please let me know! Thanks.
@robhoulden
@robhoulden 10 ай бұрын
The Eddi will vary the amount of power going to the water heater, if you only have 100 watts of surplus solar it will just use that up to the full wattage of the water heater… I tried watching my solar and switching the water heater on and off but I was pulling more from the grid than solar….. I know the Eddi isn’t cheap but it will pay for its self in a few years and all of the hot water is totally free from grid power, in the winter I connect a heater to the Eddi too so when the water has reached temperature it automatically puts the power to the heater and saves some of the gas used by helping to keep our house temperature up…. Hope this information is helpful
@aryvid
@aryvid 9 ай бұрын
Hi. At 5:52 on the video timeline there is a temperature on your app. Is this the temperature coming from the immersion heater which heat the water? My eddi seems to be installed correctly but I can't read the water temperature. Could it be the thermostat that it's broken? I have an Albion indirect cylinder 120l also plugged with a Hive for the water temperature top up from the combi boiler. The issue i have is that the eddi continuously heats the water and create a lot of pressure in the cylinder and once the pressure is over the limit the hot water is pushed to my cold water tank. In the end i have only hot water, no cold water. How could I solve the problem? Thanks.
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
Crikey! That doesn't sound good. However, I'm just a "user" not a supplier or any kind of technician and can't advise on this. And I have to wish you "good luck" because I've had too many people turn up to install or service without fully understanding the setup. Green energy systems are great, but they are complex, and that makes them difficult to troubleshoot.
@showme360
@showme360 9 ай бұрын
How does it work if your not sending anything to the grid?
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 7 ай бұрын
If there is no surplus to be diverted, the eddi doesn't heat the water. In that situation, we get hot water from the air-source heat pump. If, for some reason, we didn't want to use the ASHP, we would switch the eddi to "by-pass", which means we're then using a straightforward immersion heater.
@garytango
@garytango 10 ай бұрын
👍
@rymoe6299
@rymoe6299 10 ай бұрын
Why’s cheaper. Using a modern gas boiler on a gas price of .7p kwhr or the potential of exporting surplus PV @.15p with the octopus 🐙 SEG payments. My system 4kw PV 12kW battery’s House is band B super efficient with no recommended measures. The cost of an induction hob is double that of current gas hob plus the purchasing cost of induction hob ASHP quote we’re saving of £170.00 a year
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy
@AtHomeWithGreenEnergy 10 ай бұрын
This seems fair enough, but I'm starting from a different place: our top priority was to reduce our carbon footprint by getting rid of gas, and to use self-generated electricity as much as possible. With no gas supply, it doesn't help us to compare the cost - we're already committed!
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