Actually Ace Frehley has always been friends with Gene Simmons

I had a feeling Gene & Paul would ultimately decide to not perform at this thing. There were too many variables involved. All-original KISS performing in makeup while Eric & Tommy hang out backstage in makeup or without makeup? The current lineup performing in makeup while Ace & Peter hang out backstage? My thing is, Ace & Peter did blow it. They blew it back in the late '70s when they decided that drugs & alcohol were more important than being successful in KISS. If it wasn't for Gene & Paul continuing on with the band, there would BE no R&R HOF to go to.

***** I agree !! They are twisting it for their own selfish and childish reasons. Making it look like it's the hall's fault, making it seem like its disrespectful to the other members if they only play with ACE and Peter....hello! The ORIGINAL four guys are the only ones being inducted. How much more simple than that can it get? For whatever reasons Gene and Paul can't seem to accept that fact....and that is on them and them only. So instead of doing what the HOF desires and what most fans seem to desire, they act like children and say if we can't have it OUR way, we will just refuse to even play. Good going guys. Could've played a few tunes with the original band and mentioned everyone else through a video montage that would bring down the house. Avoiding all this backlash. But alas.....egos are very hard to put aside. I still stand by my theory that they know that if they do a set with the originals, it will be received the same way as Unplugged. They knew then the fans wanted the originals, what were they gonna do ? Go back to Bruce and Eric ? Same thing would happen here I think. But again, Ace and Peter don't want back in KISS for a full blown reunion, they just wanted to celebrate what they did and play a couple of songs, that's it. One freaking night. And Gene and Paul can't even do that. I still enjoy KISS's music, and love their albums up to Psycho Circus (Sonic Boom sucked and Monster was good, but not great.) They say that "we're the bosses" and "we give what the fans want." Did we want KISS Hello Kitty ? Did we want the LA KISS football team ???

***** Not so sure about that. If KISS had called it quits after the Dynasty tour? Would that have been enough to get them inducted? Considering how long it took them to get in (what, 14 years after first being eligible?), I doubt it.

Mandy Dahl The bottom line is that Gene & Paul are all about the current lineup, right or wrong. They have to push THAT product. It's a business first and foremost. They couldn't care less about "purist" KISS fans who are only interested in the original band. Not only that, they actually get along with Eric and Tommy. It may be selfish, but it's not childish at all. And since when do KISS fans care what the RRHOF desires? LMAO... Fuck the RRHOF. Bunch of elitist douchebags who think what they think matters.

Mandy Dahl But I agree that Gene & Paul are afraid of the reunion backlash that would obviously occur and just create even more controversy regarding the current lineup. But also, it's not just one freaking night. Playing a few songs with Ace & Peter at the RRHOF induction would require weeks of practices, rehearsals and lawyer meetings. Some KISS fans think the original four could just jump on stage and start pumping out KISS classics. Uh... not quite. Ace was so lost back in '96, he had to have Thayer teach him how to play his old solos. That's beyond sad.

LOVE the descriptions lol

lol omg I frickin;' love your descriptions. I can't stop laughing, that is sooooooo awesome

PAUL cant sing a Fucking Note anyway, a DUCK Quacking Sounds better

Why? Van Halen didn't. Why should KISS be any different?

777zippy777 Because Van Halen should have.

kingofallwhites Yes they should have, and KISS should have as well, because unlike Van Halen, KISS is actually a fan-friendly band. But I wonder how much of a "big deal" this RRHOF thing really is. The RRHOF is an even bigger joke than Tommy Thayer wearing Ace's makeup. And that's saying a lot.

***** That's kind of like if you and your wife got to the point where you couldn't stand to be in the same room together, but you stayed together just because your family & friends wanted you to. KISS is absolutely a fan-friendly band, but there's a limit. They can't please their fans if they themselves aren't happy. Like Paul says, "There wouldn't have been KISS without Ace & Peter, but there wouldn't be KISS with Ace & Peter." Now obviously that would be fine with KISS purists, who most likely wish KISS' last show would've been 14 years ago, but at the end of the day, Paul & Gene want to play and tour with guys they actually get along with, and I don't blame them. In a perfect world, it would've been G&P&A&P from day one non-stop. But the reality is that some marriages just don't last.

***** Why do they need to do that? What is that 30 minutes going to do for you that 1996-2000 didn't do for you? Do you need some sort of closure after 13 years of not having Ace in KISS? And how is Ace "more KISS" than Gene and Paul? Because Ace was *your* favorite member? That's *your* opinion, bro. Guess who else were the ultimate rock super heroes for many kids that came to love the group back then? That would be Gene and Paul. Wait a sec... it's not about what Gene & Paul want, it's about what their fans want? Since when? Yeah, I get the whole "Our fans are the bosses" concept of Gene's, and that's all funny and it makes for a fun concept, but let's have a little dose of reality with that one. KISS is Gene's & Paul's band, not the fans' band. This isn't a negotiation, they tell us how it works. And they're entitled to that because it's THEM, Gene and Paul, who kept KISS going through the shit of the '80s, not Ace or Peter.

I'm buying it. I bought his last album Anamoly through Amazon and loved it. I'll buy the next one too.

I know the Ace diehards will buy it. I was speaking in generalities.

Not many people bought the last 2 KISS records either...

MrJoeythebabykangaro People still buy records?

Ace's solo stuff is still better then Anything Gene and Paul have put out in the past 13 years.

lol Ace and Peter are greedy too :3

Vince Edwards Waiting until the last second to announce a reunion performance would be the complete opposite of great marketing. The maximum amount of ticket sales would come from announcing the reunion as soon as possible. And this is why the RRHOF so desperately wanted only the original band to perform together. It's all about the $$$. And that would've been HUGE promo and pub for them.

Has Vinnie even picked up a guitar in the past 15-20 years? Personally, I think it's insulting that Eric Carr, Eric Singer, Vinnie Vincent and Bruce Kulick aren't getting inducted because they were important to Kiss in different ways and are all great musicians in their own rights.

dont forget tommy and mark st john

Hmm you compare to Blondie other than Debbie and maybe some know Stein, who could fucking name any of the others, hardly as Iconic as Kiss

Uh, excuse me, Clem Burke is one of the greatest living Rock n' Roll drummers and he's played with fucking EVERYBODY. Jimmy Destri? wrote some of their biggest hits. Not their fault people are fucking idiots. I'm a KISS fan, have been since 1977 when I got my first KISS record. You?

Me it was 76 Mother got me Rock n Roll Over on Casette tape, not that I can see that has anything to do with it. Your comments just agree with what I said about Blondie, very few people could name all members , so my point stands which you confirmed , they arent as Iconic as Peter, Paul, Ace and Gene

Yeah, I guess you're right actually. But from your posts elsewhere, you seem to despise them now anyhow, so no big deal.

jwhiteout Yes your quite correct, despise, hmm maybe , They arent the Hottest band in the World, the Singer cant sing a Note, they downtuned the Songs so much they dont even sound anything like the Original Song, and the Singer still cant sing them . I have no problem with them not being the Original line up, because second to the originals i think with Eric Carr and Bruce Kulick they were a massive band with a great sound also. Today its just one big BAD Joke