That is the best way to teach people things. Honestly when you say “no dont do that” people shut down.

Can you explain how bounce lands are a benefit. I’ve been playing g for 2 years casually and I just cut some bounce lands from my deck. They come in tapped and bounce a basic that I was using, so I see it as a loss unless I can play that tapped land immediately. I know I can benefit next turn but most games I play with my friend tend to cost me since I don’t have the mana now to counter or interact with his board during his turn. Or am I missing something not obvious. Thanks

@@Justadadonthetok There are a lot of reasons, probably more than I could list in a KZfaq comment, but I'll try. First off, the guild bouncelands (Azorious Chancery cycle and Guildless Commons) are far superior to the 'original' bouncelands (the Karoo cycle from visions that produce one colored mana and one colorless). The guild bouncelands don't have the restriction of bouncing an untapped land, so you can sequence your turn so that you are bouncing an already tapped land, negating some of the downside. The guild bouncelands also let you bounce *any* land, such as those with good enter the battlefield effects (Mystic Sanctuary, etc). Speaking of that, any deck that wants landfall triggers (like the Aesi deck I mentioned above) absolutely loves being able to return a land to hand, especially if they have abilities that allow playing multiple lands per turn. In fact, a powerful combo in Aesi is to loop returning Simic Growth Chamber and Guildless Commons with each other, providing multiple "free" land drops per turn. The bouncelands do fix your mana, which can be helpful, but they are very resource efficient, when you think that a single card is producing two mana, even if it is a bit delayed or requires a tempo loss. Very few lands in the game can do that. Moving ahead on total mana a turn ahead of schedule is powerful in the early game, but even late, a single bounceland can pay a commander tax by itself. Outside of commander and maybe draft formats where the guild bouncelands are present, I think the tempo loss from playing a bounce land can be kind of crippling, but they are a net positive in Commander in my experience. They are also easy on the budget, which isn't always easy with manabases. All this isn't to say that they belong in every deck. I don't believe I play any of them in my 1, 4 or 5 color decks, but I would say that I play them more often than not in my 2 and 3 color ones. I think I've only played the single color bouncelands (Coral Atoll and the green one) in Aesi, specifically because I want as many landfall triggers as possible in this deck.

Regarding the "let new players play the cards they like" discussion: If you're a new player especially if you're playing online and have a hard time getting wild cards, realistically you're not even going to get to play the cards you like. You're going to have to play the cards you have or else you're just not going to play at all.

​@@JustadadonthetokI think there needs to be some disclaimers to their use: Unless budget is a concern, I use only the 2-colour bounce lands (and Guildless Commons sometimes) that bounce any Land, and only in 2-colour decks. These bounce lands return anything - even if it's tapped - so while you basically skip your land drop this turn, you can still make use of the mana you already have on field, and the bounce Land gives you a land to drop next turn. If I were to make a tier list, bounce lands would be in maybe the C tier - playable, but not the thing you reach for first. In 3-colour decks there are plenty of untapped dual Lands to put together to consistently hit your colours, but in a 2-colour deck you simply don't have as many options due to colour identity and highlander rules. So in those decks do you load up on more Basic Lands, or do you start taking slightly worse options for dual lands? I already run very few unavoidably-tapped Lands - a bounceland (2-colour) or triome (3-colour) is the only Land I consistently play that doesn't have an easy way to ensure it comes in untapped (2+ other lands? A Forest card? If it's past turn 2 it's exceedingly likely I have these kinds of conditions met. If you're on a budget and using cards like the Temples or Snow Duals, then bouncelands become a lot harder to justify.

That's hilarious! I wonder what you would say for sublime ephinany lol

​@@Commander_Claw - Target opponent loses the game. - Target opponent loses the game. - Target opponent loses the game. - Target opponent loses the game. - Target opponent loses the game. - If you have 6 or more opponents, you win the game.

You're forgetting that it's a tribal interupt- beeble

@@DracoX-hz3tu No no no, Cryptic Command says: Choose two - • Return target permanent to its controller’s hand. • Draw two cards, then discard a card. • Change the target of target spell with a single target. • Turn over target nontoken creature

Great way to get people addicted to Magic. They are learning the straight forward way to play with Minotaurs ans at the same time they're victims of others players doing crazy things making them zealous! Like oh you can do that in Magic! I love it seeing ppls eyes light up when they find the endless possibilities of MTG

Can I block with Sakura Tribe Elder?

​@@rorschach1 no, it has protection from Steve

I always tell people that if you want to put a tutor into a deck, you need to know what you would intent to tutor for as you put it into the deck. A new player, playing something someone else built for them, just will not have the knowledge necessary to use a tutor without asking for help.

I felt that once two i don't remenber what deck i was playing but i remeber it was a creature tutor their is only like 28 -35 creatures in the deck and i was overwhelemed. You have to almost take the time look in the deck and think of the few cards you would want before hand before you even play.

​@@newdarkcloud I think especialy with new players you have to explain the deck and the goals. And what to tutor for😅 I think complex decks like Reanimation, mill, steal stuff etc. Aren't decks for new players😅😂😢

I have a rule myself with tutors. If I know I want to play one on my next turn, or at someone’s end step, etc, if I can’t think of a card to grab (or at least a card type: board wipe, spot removal, card draw engine, powerful creature, etc), I’m not casting that tutor that turn. I don’t want to be the person spending 5 minutes looking for a card because I had no idea what I wanted. One of the only decks I put a few tutors in was my tasigur birthing pod deck. That decision was easy. Do I have a tutor in hand? Yes! Is birthing pod on my battlefield or in my hand? If no, we’re getting birthing pod. If yes, we’re getting the first 2 cmc creature we can find to start the birthing pod chain

man sometimes I tutor my own deck that I created and I'm still like "wait what's the best card to grab rn?"

I know, I started the episode thinking about how Joey was gonna get took for a ride and he brought some fire this week

Segue.

I didn't know he had a bike

@@maxducoudray no

Literally my own fiance's first deck as well. She doesn't play often, but she does enjoy the game when we all get together, and she's excited to work with me for the upcoming Sigarda angel/human tribal commander :) Bottom line, who cares what gets a person into magic. As long as it's something that doesn't hurt others, gives them a sense of fun, and encourages them to invest in the hobby, bring it. I have a whole deck built only upon the premise of the deck having Phage the Untouchable be the commander because she was a character in a book I read 20 years ago, ya know?

I had been trying for ages to get my wife into magic, to no avail. She is obsessed with dogs, we have two of our own that she loves, but she also will just sit and watch dog videos on Instagram etc. I saw *Faldorn, Dread-wolf herald* in my LGS, which is basically "lady with her two doggies", and said "Look it's you with our dogs" and she loved it. We've basically played every day since then.

I built my buddy an Atarka deck to get him into the game. He has like five decks now. It was definitely a good lead-in.

My Burakos/Folk Hero deck is probably one of my favorite decks for that reason. Even someone with little experience with the deck can absolutely perform well because the deck rewards you for doing what most players already want to do when sitting down to play a game of Magic: Play cards and swing in.

Yea brilliant idea and a good way to keep teachable and relatable moments because the same sub theme. It's always fun with new players. What colors are the 4 decks and which commanders? I'm always trying to find those commanders that don't have a lot of videos but are crazy popular!!! I'm trying yo male more EDH videos with this criteria.

@@Commander_Claw so my commander is Rashmi eternities crafter, it’s got some spellslinger creatures like the magecraft ones that get +1+1 counters and some jank proliferate stuff like from ravnica and war of the spark, for my friends I made a partner pair of Ghost of Ramierez Depietro with Alharu Solemn ritualist so it’s kinda spirit tribal with some +1+1 counters, then there’s a Halana and Alena Partners deck which also just has some +1+1 stuff and just some general good cards (he also likes art of women so there’s a lot of things like reclamation sage/eternal witness good cards that have women in the art lol) , and finally Kalain reclusive painter which also has some treasure stuff along with the +1+1 counters

Both those cards are OD. Korbold is a problem because of its colors. It's too easy to sacrifice permanents with those colors (cough cough) treasure tokens

I thought omnath was kind of tricky for new players. Landfall seems like an easy trigger but exploiting and making landfall Explosive takes a crafty player....but I think all the artwork for it was the 1st reason it's attractive

Yea agreed. Not paying That 2 life for mana to enter untapped can put you so far behind In a Commander match. It's only noticeable wants you start playing more commander matches

- Exile target Segway. For as long as it remains exiled you may cast it in the middle of the episode. - name a Joey. Joeys named with cryptic command, cannot Segway as long as cryptic command is on the battlefield.

I love MDFCs. Once you play that for the moment that is game changing you always add them to your deck. You might need that land or that ability clutch. My favorite is the red mana / fling!!!

@@Commander_Claw Honestly the red ones are so underrated in general. Mana dorks with 1 toughness, exiled. Want to wheel your hand? Done. Need a mana sink, we got you. Glad you agree!

@@Vrir16 Yea Valukut Exploration I believe...its at instant speed! I you reminded me to add that to my Galazeth Prismari Voltron deck....

That sounds cool. What are the other deck themes?

Out of those 3 commanders which one is your favorite? I'm looking for Deck Tech idea

Oh, and Rampant Growth, Cultivate, etc. are also fine … in beginner EDH, grabbing basics is very much something green is rightfully so much better at … while other colors have to mostly rely on 2-3 cmc mana rocks instead which are a bit more fragile

The deck list can be found Googling “Nylea 69 Creatures” since YT is stupid and won’t let me leave the link

I actually run that, Stinging Study AND Necrologia in my Kagemaro deck! I need all the cards in the world

Huh. Never seen that card. Pretty good

​@@chillinon3263one point about necrologia though, since it's during your end step, it doesn't let you pass the turn with more than seven cards since you need to discard after the spell resolves and you've drawn the cards from it

@@joedoe7572 the deck runs so many forms of no maximum handsize that naturally it often isn't a problem