Electric Pickup Truck Axles

Electric Pickup Truck Axles - China Part 4

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We're visiting our axle supplier, Dana, diving into engineering, discussing the axles we've selected and ensuring they're the perfect fit for our needs.
What's in store?
Meeting with 8 engineers from Dana to finalize our axle selection.
Visiting their factory to see the e-axles in production (though filming inside is restricted due to prototypes).
Exciting Highlights:
-Overview of a 3.5-ton axle, similar to what you’d find in an F250 or F350.
-Discussion of various axle designs, from electric motor-integrated axles to dual drive gears.
-Focus on getting the quickest production-ready axles for our pickup trucks.
-Exploring independent front suspension with hub drive motors for buses, allowing for innovative design possibilities.
-Despite language barriers, we had an incredibly productive day. Our team and Dana's engineers collaborated seamlessly, thanks to great translators. We’ve mapped out a three-step development plan and are eager to get these prototype axles into production.
Special Moments:
-An afternoon full of tours and meetings that left us thrilled about the future.
-Immersing ourselves in local culture, sharing drinks, stories, and forming new bonds.
-Exploring a 2000-year-old walled city and a Buddhist temple, discovering hidden tunnels and enjoying the historical sites.
-On a lighter note, we even did a TikTok dance in China! 🕺💃
Today, we're at the axle manufacturing plant in China, examining the exact e-axles we'll be installing in our trucks. This is a huge step for us, and we're excited to bring these innovations back to Canada.
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00:00 - 00:31 - Intro
00:32 - 01:09 - We’re at Dana Axle Co.
01:10 - 02:36 - Dana Axles
02:37 - 04:39 - Business meeting with Dana
04:40 - 04:48 - Dana Factory
04:49 - 05:44 - Conclusions of the meetings
05:45 - 06:12 - Dinner with Dana and Ray asleep
06:13 - 07:07 - Dancing at night
07:08 - 07:54 - Nightlife Adventure
07:55 - 08:47 - 2000 Years Old Temple
08:48 - 09:14 - Cheaper than Water
09:15 - 09:20 - Water Town
09:21 - 09:53 - Coming up in the next video…
09:54 - 10:09 - Outro

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@Broken_Orbital 22 күн бұрын

Chinese: Solid Colors Canadian: Plaid

@MrFakit 22 күн бұрын

*Mackinaw

@rbutter9200 21 күн бұрын

Canadian tuxedo

@marcothehammer 13 күн бұрын

This Yank thought they really 'looked' Canadian... before I realized they all looked like lumberjacks. Eh? This reveals a side of China I've heard little about over the years. It's aggravating to face the fact that I have no idea how accurate (or honest?) the media has been, especially the past 10-20 years. It wasn't too long ago that I, along with most, took the media and government at their word, now it seems like it's not even close.

@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567 18 күн бұрын

👍 awesome to see China through a production side.

@Neberheim 21 күн бұрын

So it’s Dana! Researching eAxles is how I found Edison in the first place; I’ve been trying to figure out who the supplier is without bugging them with an email, and I'm glad to hear that they have been willing to work with you when others weren't.

@Ratkill9000 22 күн бұрын

It's a good thing Rich brought up the frame rail dimension issue. Some would forget that. Even leaf perches will be different between truck generations even in the same size. For example, Stephen Cox a mobile heavy equipment and diesel mechanic, had to install a different axle in his 2001 F350 because the original one broke. He got one from a 2005-07 and the leaf perches if I remember correctly were too far apart. So he had to cut and re-weld them at the correct distances so they would fit. I think he was fine for the locations for the shocks, just not the leaf springs. Then with Ram trucks from I think it was 2014, the 2500 trucks went away from leaf springs to coil springs and if you had money, air bags. If I had to take a guess on how you guys are going to accommodate for the different setups, all the spring mounts and shock mounts will be added by per vehicle and not from the supplier. Since even with some model year changes there could be enough of a difference to make it an issue.

@Hybris51129 21 күн бұрын

Makes sense as I remember Ford getting praise for the better ride in their trucks at that time because they switched to longer leaf springs that also avoided loosing weight capacity and without going full Dodge squat everytime you dared to put more than 5 lbs of cargo in the bed.

@henrycarlson7514 13 күн бұрын

So Wise , Thank You for showing a different view of China

@sebastiant5695 22 күн бұрын

The integrated Axle at 3:47min will be the game changer. Can not wait to put one or two into my Pickup.

@henrinaths1 22 күн бұрын

Or put on my 35 foot holiday 5th wheel trailer. Saving a ton of fuel. 👍

@bobstitzenberger1834 22 күн бұрын

@@henrinaths1, and regen going down hills

@PiDsPagePrototypes 13 күн бұрын

Or in to Muscle Cars - little modern generator under the hood, E-Axle under the rear, go hunting Tesla's for laughs. Heck, think of a light weight A-body picking on the 5000+ pounds of a Rivian. And what goes under a muscle car, usually fits under a Cobra clone.

@henrinaths1 13 күн бұрын

@@PiDsPagePrototypes Gotta love the torque

@ianmckay1780 24 күн бұрын

Looks like you made good progress with the axles, and hope you get what you want from the meetings. Glad to see you enjoying the change of culture and hope you recover in time for the flight home. As always best wishes from UK.

@ahtheh 18 күн бұрын

You know a guy served, when he can sleep with his arms crossed, while there's a perfectly good bed sitting there

@elierhernandez1 22 күн бұрын

Make it happen boys!!! The world is waiting!!! Literally 😍

@__WJK__ 22 күн бұрын

“Rad Bad Sea of Plaid” Making it happen LET’S GO!!

@wbball15 22 күн бұрын

The irony of the "Kings of Industrial Espionage" having concerns about 'information getting out' is not lost.

@remix-yy1hs 22 күн бұрын

What do you think the cia does? Who kidnapped a ceo's daughter?

@__WJK__ 22 күн бұрын

So true, funny how they see things differently when they want to protect their idea + all the effort/work that goes into these things.

@Neberheim 21 күн бұрын

Dana are the kings of industrial espionage? Or are you treating a billion people as a single monolithic entity?

@SimJDKS 21 күн бұрын

To be fair, most ip was give to them in trade for slave wages.

@robotsix6268 21 күн бұрын

If you stole something, you don't want that info getting out.

@oh-k-den2640 22 күн бұрын

I want an Edison style diesel-electric bugout bus so bad. Hope these axles help brings that closer to reality

@user-nm3pp4vu7i 22 күн бұрын

I'm excited for you guys and the future success of Plug-In hybrid, electric trucks. It's a little hard for me to see you half to go to China for the drive train and batteries. They are probably 5 to 10 years ahead of us in that technology. And their production capability is second to none. I visited China's lithium battery factories back in 2018. It was an eye-opening experience I will cherish and never forget. You could fill a cup of coffee to the brim accelerate from 0 to 300 kilometers back to zero and never spill a drop on the first class service table on that High-Speed train. The cities I visited were basically washed down and cleaned every night no homeless or unemployed people there that I witnessed. Don't get me wrong. I could never accept their social credit score and lack of freedom or privacy. I love my country and we are facing some tough decisions in the future. Only we can decide how our future will be. Most of the people I met in China are good people. I still keep in contact with a few of them today. They have a beautiful country. I hope to someday return there for another visit.

@gormauslander 21 күн бұрын

Whoah, a comment about China that isn't open xenophobia. That's crazy. It's also nice that you were able to appreciate what they do well while still offering criticism of things they do wrong. People are complicated, nations even more so.

@Neberheim 21 күн бұрын

Thank you for demonstrating that whatever views you hold toward the geopolitics and policies of a national government, shouldn't reflect on the actual humans of that country.

@theolich4384 3 күн бұрын

Rest assured for one bit that the "social credit score" is one of the most popular lies about China. Which hardly gets debunked and just keeps coming back.

@jimsvideos7201 21 күн бұрын

Fun fact, high speed trains have long noses as much for aerodynamics as for the sake of reducing the abrupt noise they make entering tunnels.

@jamonmang6099 22 күн бұрын

I cant wait to do this to my truck.

@tacticaltechie 10 күн бұрын

Rather than the Powerboost F150... I would change it up to put in the eAxel and pull out the drivetrain then just have a really good 2.5 or 3l diesel to power the system. Like an 800hp truck with a 1000 mile range would be sick.

@TheDogsBox 21 күн бұрын

I really, really hope you are successful. I have a 2000 E450 Cutaway Van Ambulance conversion to an RV. I expect that I will be exploring in it for the rest of my natural life.

@i-love-comountains3850 18 күн бұрын

My neighbor has a decommissioned ambulance, too, and for a second I thought you were them, but your rig is different. 😅 small world though lol

@TheDogsBox 18 күн бұрын

@@i-love-comountains3850 this would have been gold

@cyclesingsleep 20 күн бұрын

Excellent bridge building! I pray that this will all result in a freer people and more human-loving government in China and at home...!

@douglasboyle6544 21 күн бұрын

Everywhere you go people are people 😁

@alb2571 9 күн бұрын

Awesome experience and video!

@b-laz-e 22 күн бұрын

Whoa, glad I stayed up late!

@1944chevytruck 21 күн бұрын

AWESOME! AMAZING YOU GUYS HAVE FUN!

@frankleonard6570 21 күн бұрын

Looks like a great time!

@KiltedTitan 22 күн бұрын

Didn't know Dana did E-axles. My old truck had .411 Dana. Sheard the drive before I broke that axle (and I did try). Hope the quality is like it was in the 80's. Those will kick like a mule.

@charlesball6519 22 күн бұрын

That's actually 4.11, not .411

@capnkirk5528 22 күн бұрын

One thing I really appreciate about Edison is that they WENT to China, saw things for themselves and understand how much of the perception here in Canada about China is based on racism and ugly propaganda filtering up from vested US interests. (Those SAME US interests who refused to sell to Edison - because that's how a free market works, right America?). If DeBoss had this in place right now AND had capacity, I would go find a reasonable old F150 and have them do the conversion. Even though it's not terribly practical for me (I don't need a pickup anymore), it would be a toy and new tech that I would spend money on. But I think DeBoss will be booked up for years once they can get these kits rolling.

@alexwalker8422 22 күн бұрын

We hate the CCP, so do the Chinese who are not a part of it. The only people who don't are the failures in the corporate scene who take advantage of the cheap labor of China, the CCP themselves, and those who have fallen for their lies, and the lies of those who advocate for them in efforts to normalize our dealing with them.

@alexwalker8422 22 күн бұрын

There are devils everywhere in power, it's simply easier if you don't have to finesse what you do in fear of retaliation from the people, who are still able to hear news of the wrong doings of their own country and speak out against their own country and not die, in order to perform non lethal consent based organ harvesting. They shouldn't even be allowed to ask, but they are only able to do so if they are given permission, whereas in China, uyghur Muslims are gathered up without cause en masse and placed in concentration camps where organ harvesting occurs without a second thought. Spite for our own governments is able to exist openly, how are you ok with a government which is far more deserving of this but who is silencing anybody who exhibits their feeling this way? What's your first thought about concentration camps other than the gathering of the Japanese during world war two? You would be insane not to immediately notice the immense differences between those and the ones had by the Nazis, and the other, Chinese Nazis, but hey, it's not like it had everything to do with a severe risk associated with Japanese people in the middle of a war with Japan. I believe it was a mistake, but there is no mistake in gathering religious minorities and profiting off their bodies, it is deliberate pure evil without the protection the rest of the world is fortunate to have. Was America harvesting organs and leaving the Japanese in cells? The conscience you have for the foul players in the rest of the world is essential indeed, it is part of how we prevent it, but the ignorance you have to the limitless gangrene of corruption and abuse that is the CCP is something we cannot allow to persist. The foothold we have against their depraved world domination is essential, and the forces who seek to compromise it are clearly at work here.

@WANDERER0070 21 күн бұрын

@@alexwalker8422youve been brainwashed bro see Jerrys take on China or Living in China or Katherines journey east ❤ thnx

@aaronkoch3273 22 күн бұрын

Were those guys actually trying to out-drink a Canadian?!? :)

@ShaneEstabrooks 22 күн бұрын

Nothing but AWESOME 👍😎🇨🇦

@joshlesperanceCa 20 күн бұрын

Boys trip! Nice!!

@iBackshift 21 күн бұрын

WOO HOO..... super happy for y'all.

@j.angelo2528 22 күн бұрын

Yay! I can't wait!

@bdjm8595 22 күн бұрын

Different language, same drinking culture!

@wobblysauce 22 күн бұрын

The hub motors are still good for inter-city, agricultural use.

@hrothgeirrH 18 күн бұрын

This is exciting stuff. I'm looking forward to seeing electric drive conversion kit options

@k9wiREless 22 күн бұрын

i would suspect the hardest opposition to requesting specific axle length is from the larger automotive giants who ask for specific length & order millions at a time, not with retrofit in mind. luckily edison motors has the right idea

@mrricky3816 22 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@EdisonMotors 22 күн бұрын

Thank you for your support! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

@bernietoast2686 21 күн бұрын

Great series of videos guys!!! I wish you all the success you deserve. Disappointing to read anti Chinese comments where clearly the companies you are dealing with are treating you gfuys, and their business in a way North America should be emulating instead of complaining.

@zslemp 20 күн бұрын

my good sir, American trucks need the ability to go 120mph at the minimum.

@justinjones5288 18 күн бұрын

You aint wrong

@ivanryz 21 күн бұрын

Super hot there these days. Hang I. There. Jetlag is killer too. Great work fellas. I've lived and worked in China doing something similar many years.

@jeffreymartin2010 8 күн бұрын

I once met a woman who was in a meeting with her boss in Korea. He didn't want to admit he didn't understand the Australians in their meeting so he just said yes to everything. This is common with East Asians in general. Be aware of the polite yes vs. the actual yes.

@indyjons321 22 күн бұрын

I’m curious as to how the 4x4 front axle will be.

@Neberheim 20 күн бұрын

Same. Dana doesn't seem to have any steerable e-axles except for OHVs, but maybe that's some of what they didn't want to show yet in the factory.

@deathx605 18 күн бұрын

I literally bought an old truck wateing on yall to finish so i can buy one this hybrid system just makes sense

@M_Gargantua 22 күн бұрын

One of the risks of hub motors i've seen a lot in all the student prototype cars at the competitions is that they are much more susceptible to damage, and its an expensive fix. Also you've got a lot of extra unsprung rotating mass which is awful for ride quality and kinematics. I think the inboard motors with stub axels are the superior design, especially if the inboard motors have their own compliant mounting to minimize the drive angle as the outboard suspension moves. Its something that can only be done with electric and its does some very nice things for suspension geometry and packaging.

@user-yn5sk5ru5g 22 күн бұрын

Unsprung mass is a non issue. Rolls Royce ride quality is as good as it gets, you think RR wheels are light?

@Neberheim 21 күн бұрын

Same thoughts. My dream is to retrofit a 70 series Land Cruiser but as much as I want to like the eAxle, I’m worried about what two hours of washboard road would do to it.

@johnwenzel2003 21 күн бұрын

@@NeberheimIf the axel was split to anchor the motor to the chassis and allow the drive to the wheels to react to the terrain, the suspension would mitigate most vibrational stresses. There is a manufacturer that uses such a system, but to my knowledge they have yet to apply the design to an e-axle .

@ignasanchezl 17 күн бұрын

So while this does affect the suspension dynamics on high speed driving and racing, I doubt this will be a concern at all with heavy duty trucks. Sure you might get additional vibration, and wouldn't be ideal on a baja truck, but come on, people slap heavy ass wheels and tires on their trucks just for looks, I doubt it will be an issue. If that was a concern, trucks would have switched to independent suspension years ago. Edit: I just realized you are talking about hub motors not axle motors.

@alporan9087 22 күн бұрын

So if I had to guess,, for the retrofits of pickups, it looks like you are going to strap an e-motor to the existing differential. Flip the axle 180 dgrees so that the diff cover faces inwards, take off the cover plate, pop on the e-motor with an adaptor gear to couple with the existing gears and you have a solution. So for the 4x4, it would be the same with the front diff/axle. All you need at that point is custom designing adaptors for the different differentials. Cheaper to manufacture and you keep the existing axle with rotors = reduce the costs vs swapping in a new integrated axle. Just a suspicion based on what you show at 4:45 in the video...

@flyingrat492 22 күн бұрын

I mean right before that they mentioned exactly why they wouldn’t do that

@sebastiant5695 22 күн бұрын

depending on the age, you likely need to rebuilt the differential, that is a ton of labor and specific parts + tools. Brake components are cheap. Especially when they go with drums. (there is no reason to use disks - most breaking will be regen. Just swapping the axle is much less work and you got everything new. And you can sell that old axles.

@samjubilee6593 22 күн бұрын

I am intrigued by electronic differential, meaning inner and outer wheel can turn at a different rpm (angular velocity), controlled by software & electronics. Doing away with mechanical differential gearing seems mechanically simpler (less moving parts) and cheaper to make (bevel & hypoid gears, to transfer rotation from drive shaft to differential, are complex to machine). The LeTorneau heavy equipment, with separate electric motors for each wheel, would have had to use something like this (except no software back in the 1960s, lol). But they moved much more slowly, with planetary gears in each hub. Edison Motors needs highway speeds for their heavy trucks and pickup truck conversions. It will be interesting to see what they come up with, but I like the idea of doing away with mechanical differential gearing, if possible. I'm sure their are pros and cons.

@jazzmusiccontinues1134 22 күн бұрын

When you rotate an axle 180, the vent which is a welded barbed tube in a lot of axles will now be on the bottom, the drain plug will be on the top, the fill plug will be at the wrong level/ location, the spring hangers and shock mounts will need to be cut off and rewelded in the correct locations for the new axle position. Then, when you manage to shoehorn in a second pinion gear where the rear cover used to be, the 10 to 14 rear cover bolts won’t be up to the task of transferring the torque loads or supporting the weight of an electric motor as they were never designed for those uses and will probably shear off if the axle housing doesn’t crack first. If the axle in question even has a rear cover. Some don’t, like the Ford 9”. And as Deboss said straight cut gears are superior to helical when regen is a consideration. All around bad idea, which is probably why these guys never seriously considered it

@barkobama7385 22 күн бұрын

I'm guessing they discussed how to make the mount points on their e axles modular rather than how to shoehorn a motor into existing crusty axles.

@williamturner413 21 күн бұрын

Love the METAL in China.

@WANDERER0070 21 күн бұрын

9 : 30 so when will Canada build High speed bulet trains across country 😢

@Neberheim 20 күн бұрын

When it doesn't threaten the domestic airline industry.

@laurieberg2880 20 күн бұрын

Hahahahahahaaaaa!

@pietersnackaert 21 күн бұрын

i find this really good but my current concern is axles for 4x4 trucks, because as far as i see this a front axle wasnt discussed. although the bus hub motors were shown.

@johnwenzel2003 21 күн бұрын

It's the front drive axle that's a mystery to me. There hasn't been any coverage to how a powered stear axle would be configured.

@saff226 20 күн бұрын

@@johnwenzel2003I'm guessing it will be the same centre with just different outers

@ignasanchezl 17 күн бұрын

Worst scenario you could have the stock axle with an off the shelf medium power AC motor, placed with a disconnect right were the transfer case sits. It could be geared down so to still have the same torque as the rear but 4WD is limited to low speeds only

@wild_lee_coyote 19 күн бұрын

Looks like the time Deboss took to like at lots of different axles and frames for various manufactures and years paid off. Building an e-axle that will fit a majority of trucks will minimal amount of fabricobling is going to key to getting the kits out as quickly as possible.

@pablotharpalo5685 6 күн бұрын

I like the idea of front motors but remote steering doesn't sit right with me still. However, being able to bobtail FWD would certainly be interesting to see

@henrinaths1 21 күн бұрын

Chace, next time be sure to take all of us along with you. I mean wth why not? Why not take a couple of thousand fans of Edison Motors with you? What’s the big deal? 3 or 4 chartered planes. 😂🤷‍♂️

@dogefort8410 22 күн бұрын

DO IT, DO IT, YAYY! Remember to hand out vouchers for solar installs with every axle sold!

@matthewgingerich2540 12 күн бұрын

Question: will there be options for limited slip and/or locking differentials in these E-axles? I hope so: it will broaden the appeal of the conversion even more to folks who use their trucks in off-road applications.

@elliottdiedrich3068 11 күн бұрын

It is just a matter of programming. Check out what Rimac Motors did on their cars. I am pretty sure that these guys will pick that up as they progress.

@thenam3less 22 күн бұрын

Don't think this answered my questions around how your building for f250s vs f650s. I'll keep watching though.

@bobstitzenberger1834 22 күн бұрын

I think they said they were going to put 450/550 size rears in pickups, so they can be used in bigger and smaller trucks

@thenam3less 22 күн бұрын

@@bobstitzenberger1834 that's my hope but I wasn't sure if they were referring to their toppies axels or the retro kit. My disappointment in this video is we really didn't get any new information or confirmation.

@MegaDarkTroll 22 күн бұрын

You have no idea how much I want to slap that axle into a miata - it's like an LS swap I'll make it wooork

@cch201992 21 күн бұрын

I need one for a promaster cargo van 👀 van life is huge 🤷🏼‍♂️

@calvinpetrich 13 күн бұрын

Wait, you guys don’t walk around drinking your beer in Canada?

@WcSuka 18 күн бұрын

Rich breaking out the card board assisted design and sharpie

@johnwalterc 16 күн бұрын

Do you have a smaller axle for a F150?

@CajunGreenMan 19 күн бұрын

Way to lead with the white man rhythm, Rich!

@ayatotakema5axs 14 күн бұрын

Unrelated but do you think you will add an auto grease system to your truck?

@foolicooli 22 күн бұрын

So a 12 hour or so flight, and relying on their quality control. Being extra friendly to people spending a bunch of money is pretty universal hope it works out i guess.

@JD-yx7be 22 күн бұрын

They haven't done the testing yet.

@davidbonney5035 21 күн бұрын

A simple suggestion , have matching Edison Motors shirts on for meetings just to look a little less country boy look and more professional . Only saying

@northernbushcraft1809 17 күн бұрын

absolutely love what you guys do been following your videos since you started working on carl. bought my first truck back in january and im already thinking of picking up a second just too have edisons retrofit done too replace something like internationals maxxforce or possibly even old mercedes engines out there f*k TESLA😆

@Thecommon4321 22 күн бұрын

Add big suspension options for 300’ plus

@merlepatterson 22 күн бұрын

With the electric motor directly in the axle it seems like they'll have to use some kind of sprag clutches with reverse lockers or something to defeat full time posi?

@johnwenzel2003 21 күн бұрын

I would love it if I could get an exploded view diagram of the ez-axle, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.

@johnwenzel2003 21 күн бұрын

I would love it if I could get an exploded view diagram of the e-axle, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.

@ignasanchezl 17 күн бұрын

As far as I know, pretty much all electric vehicles have their motors permanently connected to the wheels, the additional electromagnetic drag is there, specially with permanent magnet motors (unlike induction motors) but it's fairly minimal if the motor is designed correctly. Rarely ever do drive/cruise without using a bit of power or e braking, unless you're coasting on a very slight downhill.

@merlepatterson 17 күн бұрын

@@ignasanchezl What I'm interested in is how they defeat posi on a direct drive axle. As I said, they must have some kind of sprag clutch or something.

@ignasanchezl 16 күн бұрын

what do you mean by posi?

@abab-kl2gt 21 күн бұрын

Cool when can I buy one?

@mfanto1 21 күн бұрын

This will all end in tears

@i-love-comountains3850 18 күн бұрын

Yours.

@jamestaylor4202 12 күн бұрын

People keep asking 'Why not just put a motor on the transfer case' that misses one key point in that you can turna 2wd truck into a 4wd truck simply by using two electric axles.

@happycamper137 22 күн бұрын

I'm sadden to see you have to go to China to make these improvements to American/Canadian trucks. I understand its about affordability, but this only shows what our governments are about.

@AdrianMcDaid 22 күн бұрын

They tried to get the products local.

@barkobama7385 22 күн бұрын

It wasn't governments that closed the factories and moved them to China, it was the billionaire factory owners that did that. Put the blame where it belongs.

@harmanjd 22 күн бұрын

It's not so much about affordability as it is availability. They could not find a North American supplier willing to work with them.

@bobstitzenberger1834 22 күн бұрын

@harmanjd , and the north American suppliers would just order from China anyway

@matthewgoedtel5998 22 күн бұрын

You can thank unintelligent people like tRump that spread lies around hybrid and electric vehicles. Most other countries choose a propulsion system based on specs, efficiency for a given need and not feelings.

@mikesmith8952 21 күн бұрын

Americans seem to hate anything China makes, I get it but consider so damn much is already made in China because US industries sold us out! DANA is an American company but they now produce their products in China because of the Almighty dollar, profits come first in the modern world, IMPO. If American companies would have taken Edison Motors seriously they wouldn't have needed to go to China. I wish I could afford to convert one of my many 4X4 trucks to the Edison build, designs. The people who hate Edison Motors due to the China thing need to go elsewhere for their needs, IMHO.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😊

@russellknight26 21 күн бұрын

Unsprung weight is a concern for the pickup trucks. On A C500 it wouldn't change the stability or handling like a pickup

@ignasanchezl 17 күн бұрын

kek

@dirtbike662 12 күн бұрын

But can I cram these under my single cab Tacoma?

@roberto.peterson9917 21 күн бұрын

curious how these axel drive train functions in mud snow and ice when you need a soft start do not to spinning tire's or even if in soft sand power taking of and spinning can leave you more stuck than you were

@ignasanchezl 17 күн бұрын

You can actually build really fast responding traction control systems for electric motors. Just look how EVs manage to set record launch speeds even on unprepped pavement with all season tires. Or check videos of the R1T. They should definitely look into it though, at least a soft start mode.

@nicholaswhite9760 5 күн бұрын

Sensors will make rapid response which is faster than mechinic 4wd system. It has been commercialized in some EV(sedan, SUV and even truck)

@joshfazenbaker5691 20 күн бұрын

What lug pattern will the axles have?

@johnwilliams4545 20 күн бұрын

Shades of Hotel California 😅

@BurchellAtTheWharf 22 күн бұрын

3:40 I van sea that this is eating Chase alove on the inside. We reely ought to be getting one if each axel and then break it down, an reverse engineer it, and make em Canadian from scratch.... Any machine companys out there willing to give er a crack

@bobstitzenberger1834 22 күн бұрын

It's a huge investment in casting and forging factories, it just won't be done anywhere but china

@BurchellAtTheWharf 22 күн бұрын

@@bobstitzenberger1834 it can be done here there just gotta be a group of folks to work to make it happen Yes casting can be tedious but, can be highly worth it, how do you think Ford made millions of cars in the early 1900's and manufactured 90% of everything in there model T's & Eh's 😆

@JD-yx7be 22 күн бұрын

@@BurchellAtTheWharf The u.s was an industrial powerhouse back then, during the 70s and beyond we moved to a service economy. Increased taxes on domestic manufacturing and decreasing tariffs

@BurchellAtTheWharf 22 күн бұрын

@@JD-yx7be yes. And the shuttering of small companies and businesses that would normally chase such an opportunity like I mentioned.. North America(USA and Canada) as a whole should be a manufacturing superpower. But fallow the money and profits

@samjubilee6593 14 күн бұрын

Please never hire an advertising team. Chace Barber & Rich Bosch are a blast to watch, better than any advertising team you could ever come up with.

@ArthriticAngler 22 күн бұрын

Engineers and manufacturing matters 😢

@paulwatson6013 21 күн бұрын

So okay they have K pop in Korea. So what do we call it in China, C pop perhaps?

@ctibpo991 22 күн бұрын

2 motor axle = 0 differential + redundancy if 1 motor dies + spin turn capability + lower gauge wiring requirements for each motor

@Neberheim 20 күн бұрын

Wondered about that too, though the front and rear axles would also provide redundancy.

@chibinyra 21 күн бұрын

I'm happy with my RV Dodge 3500 conversion topping out at 55, so 70 is fantastic... I hate that Americans feel the need to maybe go 100+, especially in vehicles weighing over 4 tons....

@__WJK__ 21 күн бұрын

I'd say people actually want 75-100 mph cars, so they can more effectively merge onto and/or pass other vehicles on the nations highways. Unless you were maybe referring to highly specialized work trucks, traditional consumer vehicles, topping out at 70 kmh/43 mph, isn't even close to what's needed to safely traverse most US roadways.

@Ajicles 21 күн бұрын

4:44 Windows 7 still in use in 2024.

@cobaltlukather9045 21 күн бұрын

Windows 7 still the best OS. people would still be using it if they weren't forced to update.

@glike2 21 күн бұрын

Hope Edison doesn't get swatted by US government with tariffs

@colo4217 21 күн бұрын

9:12 😂

@Loadedpig 22 күн бұрын

#theskydontlie

@grahammaclean1997 11 күн бұрын

As much as I admire your intent, when are you actually going to DO something that those of us who believed in you can actually counton what you say..? Please let us know when parts are going to be available and how your network will work. All I see from your channel is a lot of things that really don't matter to those of us that want to build our own truck. I don't want this to come off as sarcastic, just want to get with a program. Thanks and I really do like what the intent is. I have been a big supporter and told numerous companies to check you out. Hope they did. Take care.

@nickgibb4687 22 күн бұрын

WHAT!! Made in China?

@bobstitzenberger1834 22 күн бұрын

Dana is made in China. Everything is made in China

@johnwenzel2003 21 күн бұрын

North American corporations where so successful in offshoring production that now it is now prohibitively difficult to fully produce anything nativly within the reagon. It's like everyone didn't scream bloody murder when they did it, it's now that we have to deal with consequences of their short term profit taking.

@MarkRose1337 21 күн бұрын

No North American manufacturers were willing to work with them

@__WJK__ 21 күн бұрын

@nickgibb4687 - Are you saying, everything you currently own, has absolutely no components made in China? Also, if you were in Edsison Mortor's shoes, what exactly would you do different?

@gormauslander 21 күн бұрын

"Electric hub axles for buses" Me: :D "Top out at 70kmh" Me: >:|

@Neberheim 20 күн бұрын

That's actually the legal limit in North Carolina for school and activity busses. I wonder if the domestic market has a similar limit that it was originally designed to.

@gormauslander 20 күн бұрын

@@Neberheim in the rural US, school busses have to travel on highways to cover the district. Besides them, there are also RVs, tour busses, and coaches that could use the same axles if you increase the top speed. Your limiting your market by making them so slow.

@ignasanchezl 17 күн бұрын

they're probably legally limited, or simply a mechanical issue do to unsprung mass. I don't think they're purposely limiting them

@gormauslander 12 күн бұрын

@@ignasanchezl Oh certainly not. The fact that "they are working on fixing that" as Chace said implies that it was a mechanical limitation

@KrisT1622 21 күн бұрын

Is it still cost effective with proposed heavy tariffs? Will using this make exporting your finished product to the US difficult? If/when China invades Taiwan how will this impact your supply of this critical component? Wise to source a North American option and have a plan B if things go sideways.

@Serrol_ 20 күн бұрын

Given everything China has already done against Canada, it's amazing that Canadians would still go against their country and hand over their business to China like this.

@ragingchimera8021 10 күн бұрын

Careful my good man. They aren't your friends.

@Schroefdoppie 22 күн бұрын

Not allowed to film inside....yeah, somebody might steal your designs, right? 🤦‍♂️

@KeithOlson 21 күн бұрын

Be careful not to bump into any concrete walls, y'all. You might accidentally poke a hole that would be *VERY* hard for your hosts to explain away.

@Neberheim 20 күн бұрын

What?

@r.s.richey9956 19 күн бұрын

It a reference to "tofu - dreg"construction in China. Laughably poor quality construction done with fake materials, for cost cutting or outright scamming the people paying for the construction

@SamusMaximusSMXD 11 күн бұрын

So sad you had to go to the enemy for parts

@jamesnichols7507 22 күн бұрын

You might want to go watch the video that Peter Zeihan just put up because in the next ten years your axle suppler might not be around.

@michaeljiang960 22 күн бұрын

lol, if you believe anything Zeihan has said about China, you should just hide in a cave and nevr come out.

@__WJK__ 22 күн бұрын

You should link PZ’s video in this post, because most won’t bother and/or don’t know who he is.

@barkobama7385 22 күн бұрын

He said the same thing 10 years ago.

@__WJK__ 22 күн бұрын

@@barkobama7385- Point taken. However, given the unprecedented geo-political events going on right now (aka BRIX, Ukraine & China wanting Taiwan) I’d say a 10yr prior warning, is a good thing vs a bad thing.

@WANDERER0070 21 күн бұрын

@@__WJK__ Taiwan is REPUBLIC of China bro One country Two system,,learn history 😂

@barryk8969 21 күн бұрын

Is anything made in Canada anymore? How long do I have to learn how to use chopsticks? Also interesting how the Chinese don’t want filming in the factory. Don’t want anyone steeling their ideas. They should be the best at security solutions seeing they are the best at steeling others products.

@Neberheim 20 күн бұрын

You are treating a country of a billion different people as one entity. What a sad, racist comment about chopsticks too, I thought the Canadians were better than that (see what I did there).

@brettmoore3194 5 күн бұрын

I was wanting one of your trucks but seeing all the unsold EV's in china it makes me wanna wait

@ncmartinez_his 22 күн бұрын

You may just want to invest in business attire... I mean... I love the plaid, but you might want to meet them halfway. 😊

@MagikEh 22 күн бұрын

Lol, Chase basically was wearing a modern rendition of the casual Canadian tuxedo XD

@WANDERER0070 21 күн бұрын

9 min drinking beer in public ❤ and some people say chinese have no freedom 😂 try doing that here or Us

@workingcountry1776 21 күн бұрын

Who is the FM radio announcer during the closing credits? Also; this is the part of China the CCP wants you to see. Lest we forget their lack of environmental, safety or union protections for workers and their slavery problems. That said, I have worked with refugee from China. She took a long time to get used to our working conditions and freedom. She assimilated over time

@JasonG-wz1je 22 күн бұрын

You need an F150 package.

@95dodgev10 22 күн бұрын

Extremely bold of a Chinese company to be worried about other companies stealing their property. That's literally the business model of China as a whole lately.

@Sjanzo 22 күн бұрын

These Canadian dudes that have no knowledge about the European trucks they blatantly copy in China, are easy to fool. They are impressed by the previous generation Mercedes Actros, Scania R series and Volvo FH copies in China, its absolutely hilarious to watch this as a European 🤣 And Dana actually has European knowledge they have their Chinese location build.

@EdisonMotors 22 күн бұрын

This was Dana axles. An American company

@95dodgev10 22 күн бұрын

@@EdisonMotors yea I caught that part but that doesn't matter to me. Still chinese engineer's and plant managers and stuff that I would be willing to bet are more than willing to share Dana's info as well as yours with other Chinese companies to create similar products at reduced price to try and to out compete competitors. I really like what you're doing overall. I've just seen too many people big and little get their products and ideas stolen by the Chinese. A once small time guy that made a great mouse trap got his idea blatantly copied and then marketed on Amazon and Facebook with the guys own photos but the product was the chinese company's. He fought it and filed copyright claims and everything but was told sorry nothing we can do cause its international. And even recently the new chinese fighter jet is a direct copy of the f-22 from the US. I have no issue with foreign companies competing with others. I just don't approve of china's ethics or lack thereof. I'd be tickled to death if it was a Japanese, European, or even Taiwanese plant.

@gormauslander 21 күн бұрын

@95dodgev10 so in your internal model of how you view people, "I saw an example of a person in this group behave poorly" = "this entire group behaves poorly". We call that in the industry "racism".

@Sjanzo 21 күн бұрын

@@gormauslander racism is judgement based solely on race. Being aware of how Chinese culture values intellectual property, is called wisdom.