Edith Finch and Inheritable Tragedy

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Lucky

Lucky

Ай бұрын

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@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Ай бұрын
A lot of people talk about Gregory, for good reason, but not many people talk about the romanticizing. Like, it's almost psychopathic how hard Sam tries to turn a baby drowning into a beautiful thing. Gregory didn't die happy, surrounded by toys. He died scared as his lungs filled with water and he didn't know how to stop it.
@ConfusedLemons
@ConfusedLemons Ай бұрын
The way the family excuses/romanticizes death is really horrific when you look back on it.
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 Ай бұрын
@@ConfusedLemons I get why Sam's wife left. I'd leave too if somebody tried to romanticize me killing a baby by mistake
@ConfusedLemons
@ConfusedLemons Ай бұрын
@@genericname2747 Especialy since she wasn't raised with this morbid glorification of death.
@chicken0w044
@chicken0w044 28 күн бұрын
@@genericname2747 yes and no, from what i remember, Sam doesn't glorify/romanticizes his death, he wants his wife to remember him as an imaginative and happy baby, wanting her to not blame herself too hard. Obviously from a gameplay perspective where we watch everyone's last moments they made him "imagine" all those toys come to life and what not, but Sam's note is him being at peace with his son's death, and wanting his expartner to be at peace too
@doredam8919
@doredam8919 8 күн бұрын
The death most terrifying to me personally is Lewis. Maladaptive daydreaming is real, and I used it for escapism for a few years, given that I despised my life so much at that point that I had to get lost in a fantastical daydream most of my day just to survive. Everyone has their own inner fantasy world, but I spent more time in mine than in real life. It does get better, but please, if you recognize yourself in Lewis, go to therapy, talk with your friends, and maybe don't listen when your therapist tells you it's all good to daydream so much. People care about you, and maybe it's more fun to make stories together than to be alone.
@MaddyRose1998
@MaddyRose1998 2 күн бұрын
I think about it a lot too. Whenever my life gets overwhelming I can always tell I’m doing bad when I’d rather be in my head than in the real world. I’ve spent hours in there before, choosing to “nap” instead of doing any of my normal hobbies that would bring me joy. His death is a scary reminder to not let that get out of control.
@Elliechi
@Elliechi Ай бұрын
12:45 - I watched my friend stream this on Twitch (he's a dad). And I remember the second he saw the bath tub, he knew. He said "No no no... Don't make me do this." And when the mom stepped out of the room, he had to pause the game for a moment to orient himself, and to remind us viewers that it only takes a couple inches of bath water for a baby to drown. It was a really difficult portion of the game.
@silverstarlightproductions1292
@silverstarlightproductions1292 Ай бұрын
Whenever I watch people play through the game, I always skip Gregory's story. As a mom, it's just too hard to witness.
@fanfight
@fanfight Ай бұрын
Can you link us the video? Or,if your friend posted that video on KZfaq too,can you give it to us,please?
@Elliechi
@Elliechi 24 күн бұрын
@@fanfight Unfortunately it was so long ago, he didn't record the video. :( Thank you for your interest though.
@fanfight
@fanfight 24 күн бұрын
@@Elliechi What a pity :( Thank you anyway :)
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 16 күн бұрын
What a loser
@LadySaphira
@LadySaphira Ай бұрын
At the same time though Edith Jr. Was also showing really reckless behaviour while pregnant, climbing trees etc with an obvious baby bump. I don't think she fully broke the "curse" as it were.
@firstloveacrossthesea5835
@firstloveacrossthesea5835 Ай бұрын
Also her son has his arm in a cast, meaning he’s a little reckless. I don’t know if he would learn from this or lean into it?
@CharcoalNeko
@CharcoalNeko Ай бұрын
I think it was shown that Edith didn’t know she was pregnant at the time and only knew later.
@aalllllllexx
@aalllllllexx Ай бұрын
​​@@CharcoalNeko No, she's VISIBLY pregnant when she goes to visit the island, and she only goes back once she finds out she's pregnant. You can look all the way down and see a clear baby bump
@kaileychambers6969
@kaileychambers6969 Ай бұрын
One of lines she writes is "if I knew there'd be so much climbing, I never would have come when I was (however many) weeks pregnant" She knew she was pregnant, she just didnt realize all the journey would entail. That being said, she still chose to continue climbing and risking herself even after seeing how much coimbing was necessary, and although in the full context we know she likely died from child birth and wouldnt have had the chance to come back, for he unborn child it would have been a more responsible decision to leave the climbing parts for later@@CharcoalNeko
@CharcoalNeko
@CharcoalNeko Ай бұрын
@@kaileychambers6969 Oh I must have misremembered that sentence as “if I knew I was pregnant” instead. Thanks for telling me.
@kaitlynlavigne8411
@kaitlynlavigne8411 Ай бұрын
I haven’t seen anyone else mention this in the comments yet but, I believe Calvin’s death could be at least partially contributed to parental neglect as well. Considering the fact that the swing, that was most likely put up by his parents, was overlooking the cliff in the first place
@insertchannelnamehere9637
@insertchannelnamehere9637 Ай бұрын
and the fact that edith couldve just came outside and got him if he really wasn’t listening
@oeurydice
@oeurydice 5 күн бұрын
And even if he didn’t go all the way over the cliff, he easily could’ve gotten impaled on that old fence
@kaitlynlavigne8411
@kaitlynlavigne8411 5 күн бұрын
@@oeurydice I didn’t even think about that, but yes! And the father was a builder right? So he built all these tunnels and elaborate rooms, but couldn’t fix an old and rotting fence overlooking a cliff, where young children regularly play?
@asifallintonothingne
@asifallintonothingne Ай бұрын
I think about this game/story CONSTANTLY.
@opti6019
@opti6019 Ай бұрын
Same! I was so excited and surprised when this appeared on my recommended. What a beautifully haunting game. I still hear Louis’ theme in my head from time to time.
@pinkish_gloves2835
@pinkish_gloves2835 Ай бұрын
real
@kyluvsgyu
@kyluvsgyu Ай бұрын
real
@Meimoons
@Meimoons 15 күн бұрын
Enough to call this your Roman Empire?
@saturnalle
@saturnalle Ай бұрын
i have this theory that lewis's fantasy world was technically created by milton, in the sense that milton, being an imaginative child, created an imaginary kingdom to play in, imagining himself as the king, and likely roped his siblings into playing characters in his game, and lewis found comfort in mentally returning to that game.
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 16 күн бұрын
Extremely dumb theory that makes light of mental illness and suicide
@SpecialEdge
@SpecialEdge Ай бұрын
I like how the title can refer to both Edie and Edith Jr, this is the remains of Edie’s legacy
@Random-we8te
@Random-we8te Ай бұрын
Something that I think is a really cool detail is in the first scene of the game we see a bouquet of calla lilies, which symbolize life, resurrection and fertility. Interestingly enough, the flowers have also been used as a symbol for death. With the amazing detail the game creators put into Edith Finch, I doubt this is unintentional.
@gachaloseruser
@gachaloseruser 11 күн бұрын
“Unspecified substance” I think from the posters in his room the substance was pretty specified
@fishybear3078
@fishybear3078 21 күн бұрын
(About the Barbra section) As someone who lives and grew up in the woods in the middle of nowhere, a good track from any town, It was super common to never lock our doors, we where so far out that there was no point, because the odds of somebody going all the way out there was slim to none. No one I knew growing up locked their doors. Ever, It would be very likely for a home intruder to easily get in,
@TailsFan
@TailsFan 2 күн бұрын
The radio was talking about a gang of masked home intruders attacking homes, so clearly it was a known threat.
@lcg8220
@lcg8220 21 күн бұрын
I don't think Gregory turned the tap back on, his mother never turned it off and didn’t want to admit her neglect killed him.
@bellajones2563
@bellajones2563 13 күн бұрын
It’s more likely she just walked away while the tub was full of water & he fell forward, it happens sometimes & is seen in the game itself. Only Sam, trying to say it wasn’t either of their fault & being the one telling the story, says that she must have pulled the plug & something caused it to fill again. Essentially saying “no, no, I didn’t distract you that badly, you still did what you were supposed to” when the evidence heavily shows it was a neglectful mistake from tired, frustrated, & distracted parents.
@kylebean5743
@kylebean5743 Ай бұрын
20:07 for Milton getting stuck in the walls, depending on how the sealed them sometimes the smell may not be noticeable until they crack it open. Some people who get stuck in chimneys take a really long time to be found (though I do believe most of those cases happen in abandoned houses) Amazing video by the way!
@Ozzygirl17
@Ozzygirl17 Ай бұрын
I also enjoyed listening to another video on this game, and actually discuss what’s going on (as opposed to constantly questioning small things or those who don’t pay attention). Could be an artistic choice on the developers’ part, but even if Milton was trapped in the passages, Edith Jr. would’ve found more than his pictures, if you know what I mean. In addition, to add onto Barbra’s vignette, Sven’s injury was the catalyst for Edit leaving. While yes, it was set around Halloween (I find it amusing they gave out green apples to trick or treaters), 1960 was a different time (where they didn’t think about home invasions).
@c4mbr1el
@c4mbr1el Ай бұрын
​@@Ozzygirl17 I don't think she discovered all the rooms. Edith's (the old one) room one was never opened as far as I recall.
@Ozzygirl17
@Ozzygirl17 Ай бұрын
@@c4mbr1el I was referring to the passages Edith went through, although you have a valid point. Edith (I refer to the senior as Edie) only go to the third floor via roof and never got into the hall. Edith did go into Edie’s room, out the window from Molly’s, and found the passage by going through the attached bathroom.
@Senfree
@Senfree 18 күн бұрын
​@@Ozzygirl17 I always figured that what he fell into wasn't a secret passage, but what he thought was a secret passage, but was actually a place he shouldn't have been. When there's so many secret passages he could have figured that he found one no one else in the house had found yet, but it turned out it was a place he couldn't turn back from, potentially a part of the house people don't go to, as they don't know it's there.
@cheezitthesquirrel3135
@cheezitthesquirrel3135 6 күн бұрын
@Senfree I can definitely see this as a case, especially with many of the old rooms never becoming accessible again, I can imagine over time parts of the house became decayed leaving Milton trapped.
@louiskantrowitz2765
@louiskantrowitz2765 Ай бұрын
No matter how much analysis of this game I read or watch, I never get sick of hearing other peoples thoughts on it
@blizzybee222
@blizzybee222 15 күн бұрын
Tbh my theory with Molly is that she daydreamed before she fell asleep and due to the substances she experienced sleep disturbances that caused a form of sleep walking. You often dream of what you were thinking about prior to sleeping, such as her stuffed animals in a daydream. I then believe she either during the disturbance covered her face with the stuffed sea monster and suffocated or vomited and asphyxiated (with or without the stuffed monster on her face)
@bellajones2563
@bellajones2563 13 күн бұрын
Interesting! I’ve never heard the idea of a plushie being involved in her death, or really heard anyone suggest she actually climbed out the window!
@blizzybee222
@blizzybee222 10 күн бұрын
@@bellajones2563 I personally don’t think she climbed out of the window due to how we see her on the bed right before she dies, I only guess possibly the plushie since she has a specific monster plushy and the fabric would make it way easier to suffocate especially how it is with young children. My biggest theory is that she asphyxiated from vomiting because though what she ate wasn’t toxic enough to kill her it is toxic enough to induce vomiting and other stomach issues. Especially if she was dehydrated as well. I think the water scene might be hinting at it tbh
@mistingwolf
@mistingwolf 17 күн бұрын
In the end, everything happens because nobody can make good, rational choices. No one has been taught to think critically about the things they do and the consequences they can have. A series of unfortunate decisions, if you will.
@sunshinebear9949
@sunshinebear9949 23 күн бұрын
For me Gregory and Lewis’ stories are the hardest. A family friend we lost a long time ago lost her baby like Gregory I was probably 5 at the time and at the funeral I wanted to hold the baby cause I thought he was a doll. Lewis is me in a different universe in the sense that there was a time when I spent years living in the stories I created in my head waiting to die after missing out on my teen years I had to come back to reality.
@zabeerfarid7687
@zabeerfarid7687 Ай бұрын
This game shows the power of indie video game storytelling also this game takes place in my home state of Washington :D the big ass trees are accurate
@rfuitsalad
@rfuitsalad Ай бұрын
same here🫡
@annceres1204
@annceres1204 8 күн бұрын
I was annoyed by the foxgloves being in the forest though. Those flowers love the sun and never bloom inside forests. They are only on the edge of forests or in meadows
@E3AloeLi
@E3AloeLi 4 күн бұрын
Milton and the other creative finches hit hard for me. I’ve been deeply traumatized and my parents either responded with neglect or verbal violence. The use of art for them was escape. I use to do that too yet my pain always followed me, manifesting in something that drowned me. So I learned to use that powerful force in my work. Instead of escaping world after world tainted in my trauma. I weave worlds and stories of hope and healing. A broken piece of myself becoming a person that heals from trauma/mental illness and learns to live with it.
@extremesubtlety
@extremesubtlety Ай бұрын
I'm so glad you talked about this game! One of my faves ever. You also touched on a lot of stuff I haven't seen others go over, like Gus' feelings or that Edie might've been the one to write Molly's story to cope
@peppermintspider
@peppermintspider 7 күн бұрын
I love that people are still talking about this game. Good essay!
@FroggySpirits
@FroggySpirits Ай бұрын
god i love this game so much!! I watched a playthrough of it back when it came out and then a few years later played it for myself. the theme and series of unfortunate events (heh) reminds me kinda of how unlucky my own family is. It's no where near as unfortunate as the family in the game but we have some similar ones. Molly's death makes me so sad because it being so nonsensical that much more pushes the fact she was an imaginary child, too. I've always been curious about Barbara's death because I love the style of story telling but was very curious about how she passed. Calvin's death hit me the same way because it was so heartsinking. Gus reminded me a lot of myself when I was a bit younger and I wish he was actually seen and heard so badly. Its truly a game of breaking the chain of generational trauma and its so beautiful
@preshlock
@preshlock Ай бұрын
your narration is therapeutic
@darkwitnesslxx
@darkwitnesslxx 21 күн бұрын
I think blaming any of the events on the generations we see ignores 500 years of history, and the theory that the house that sank also had shrines to unusual deaths.
@bellajones2563
@bellajones2563 13 күн бұрын
I don’t think it ignores it exactly, just puts it in a more realistic light per se? I fully believe they have a “family curse” traveling back so long but like the video said it’s more of a self fulfilling prophecy. The family curse is a mix of taught reckless, taught helplessness, taught romanticization of brutal & sudden deaths all of which can be seen before Edie. (If believing the schizophrenia theory then that’d also be part of the “family curse” being genetically passed down.) Most of the deaths are to blame by negligence in one way or another & then romanticized by those who had neglected them. Most of the deaths were acts of recklessness that caused the tragic death.
@Quinn-he3vn
@Quinn-he3vn 4 күн бұрын
I never understand why people with family curses in media continue have children when they know they're cursed
@m_milos
@m_milos Ай бұрын
i was literally thinking abt this game like an hour ago omg i'm seated
@user-mf5kn8bn9h
@user-mf5kn8bn9h Ай бұрын
hands off the steering wheel headphones in ready to be blown away again by the ability this woman has to put things into words that only existed as vague notions in my mind so beautifully i'm convinced she's a telepath
@Kelaiah01
@Kelaiah01 Күн бұрын
One detail that I've never heard anyone talk about is that whenever Edith Jr. finishes reading one of the recordings about her dead family members, she always has something to say about it... except for Gregory's death. She is completely silent after reading Sam's letter to Kay... and taking into context that Edith herself is pregnant...
@BeebletheBee
@BeebletheBee Ай бұрын
Oh man I'm so glad you covered this game, it's one of my faves
@poed75
@poed75 2 күн бұрын
I like to think Molly actually died not from choking but starving to death. Yes the cocktail of holly berries, toothpaste, and a moldy contaminated carrot might be dangerous but to instantly die is a for sure no. She contemplates eating her GOLDFISH and eating your pet is going to be a last resort. She might have been locked up for several days because of that type of hunger. It seems to be a response to her eating all of her candy way to early unable to leave and eventually starving.
@butterntoast1249
@butterntoast1249 Ай бұрын
I was really down today and this made me feel better. Thanks lucky
@Barbieiseverything
@Barbieiseverything Ай бұрын
You covering this game is my roman empire.
@TetraTerezi
@TetraTerezi 56 минут бұрын
She's so lucky. She's a star.
@olivesumsum
@olivesumsum Ай бұрын
😮 wow this video was amazing thank you so much for the amazing work you do 😊
@That_Ozian
@That_Ozian Ай бұрын
I been waiting for this one! TURN IT UP!
@kumdemon
@kumdemon Ай бұрын
God, I love it when lucky posts
@squeethemog213
@squeethemog213 Ай бұрын
I've never played this game but by watching your video I can feel the sheer emotional rollercoaster of it all. You delivered this so beautifully I am left emotion. Thank you for make this video ;w;
@ghoststil
@ghoststil Ай бұрын
Oh my god I love your content and this is one of my fav games this is perfect
@sydneystevens3323
@sydneystevens3323 Ай бұрын
Here we go so excited for this one!
@TrocChamp
@TrocChamp Ай бұрын
Would love to see You talk about Life is Strange.
@teddieprox2307
@teddieprox2307 Ай бұрын
finally, a game I've played
@otagen
@otagen Ай бұрын
Wonderful analysis!!!
@littleghostboy7177
@littleghostboy7177 Ай бұрын
I could listen to you talk for ever
@CherishCat
@CherishCat Ай бұрын
Love your videos
@areathex4086
@areathex4086 Ай бұрын
YYEAHH Another video 🗣️
@finalform11
@finalform11 Ай бұрын
great video, glad i subbed
@Benzyl_Penoxide
@Benzyl_Penoxide Ай бұрын
If you have the time, consider doing a fears to fathom video!Seems right up ur alley!
@OvisArcana
@OvisArcana Ай бұрын
i haven't watched this video yet but i love this game and i cannot wait to see this. more people need to talk about this game
@mistingwolf
@mistingwolf 17 күн бұрын
Oh, I wonder if you have played and/or would make a video on _The Vanishing of Ethan Carter._ It has a similar mystique to it that _What Remains of Edith Finch_ has.
@hopelessraider7483
@hopelessraider7483 Ай бұрын
I DIDNT KNOW YOU HAD A KZfaq CHANNEL ❤
@squidairleo3155
@squidairleo3155 10 күн бұрын
edit: oh immediately after I wrote this they mention the Swan 19:24 I think there are 3 options the 2 that were mentioned and a third that he ran away. Water wave talked about how Milton could’ve ran away, and how he possibly might be the prince in “The Unfinished Swan” . He goes more in depth into a lot more things and I just don’t wanna write it all.
@theboxofdoom
@theboxofdoom 3 күн бұрын
OMG LUCKY?!?! I DIDNT KNOW YOU HAD A KZfaq CHANNEL
@viIIaneIIe
@viIIaneIIe 8 күн бұрын
one of my favorite games ever.
@Benzyl_Penoxide
@Benzyl_Penoxide Ай бұрын
Omg I was just thinking about Edith Finch today
@LoveNathasha
@LoveNathasha Ай бұрын
Can you do a video on Fran Bow?
@Mushroomelixir
@Mushroomelixir Ай бұрын
Random but you have the perfect voice for a video essayist
@conner101howard
@conner101howard Ай бұрын
For the engagement.
@lobotomies
@lobotomies 15 күн бұрын
i love this game so much
@carriehutson2920
@carriehutson2920 22 күн бұрын
Technically Barbara could have accidentally killed her boyfriend. She could have simply gone into hiding after dumping his body in the sea and put her ear in the music box to fake her death. The cutting of her left ear is also a reference to Vincent Van Gogh, artist of "The Scream" (Because she's known for her screaming) and who also cut off his left ear. Barbara could have suffered from the same mental illness as Vincent as well.
@capricornsaem
@capricornsaem 19 күн бұрын
You're thinking of Edvard Munch for "The Scream"! But I like the theory of Barbara faking her death, it's slightly less depressing.
@oceanamelodies8062
@oceanamelodies8062 17 күн бұрын
still looking forward to district 11 and 12 videos for the hunger games
@Nopexehdehudeujde
@Nopexehdehudeujde 9 күн бұрын
I can yap about this for days
@tairaquinones9364
@tairaquinones9364 29 күн бұрын
This is my Roman Empire tbh
@boogiebong420
@boogiebong420 Ай бұрын
pleaseee check out Season: a letter to the future, its such an underrated cozy game😩
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 16 күн бұрын
This game SH*Ts on all those crappy “Its up to your interpretation” games
@YourRyeBread
@YourRyeBread Ай бұрын
Having to set to 0.75x for the first time in my life
@cstar3880
@cstar3880 Ай бұрын
i think i disagree with the blaming of edie sam and dawn for the deaths of their children, i think all of them run from the truth of death in their own ways. edie turns death into stories to cope with an arguably unfounded guilt, sam falsely believes that death can be beat by preparation and dawn searches for someone to blame for the deaths. in truth i think there is no curse or self fullfiling prophecy, the deaths just happened. no one is liable, there arent forces at play. just a deeply unlucky family trying to cope with tragedy. but anyway, thanks for your perspective :)
@Mvmrobots4030
@Mvmrobots4030 10 күн бұрын
What i find interesting is the rooms edith might be trying to cope in a bad way but we do figure out what the families lives were like thanks to her keeping all their stuff together it was also definitely sams fault it seems like him and kay were having relationship issues and him calling her distracted her as i am pretty sure they got into an augment
@Grogeous_Maximus
@Grogeous_Maximus Ай бұрын
Can't really hear the mic audio
@Senfree
@Senfree 18 күн бұрын
Weird, I heard it really well.
@smallsunsnake7765
@smallsunsnake7765 Ай бұрын
I mostly agree with the points you made here, and you gave me some food for thought, but I think you've overfixated on Edie's unhealthy romanticization being some... driving force of evil in the Finch family. If you don't believe that, then you needed to reevaluate your script; it goes REALLY hard on Edie. There is NOT firm evidence she wrote Molly's letter, I don't think she intentionally withheld the information about the train from Walter, etc. She wasn't malicious or even delusional, in my opinion. Edie deals with tragedy by turning it into beauty. The mole man story is the same as the "dragon killed my husband" story: a whimsical massaging of the truth that is easier to bear than the stark reality of death. It is a sad and even endearing trait, not horrible and irredeemable as you've presented it. She IS presented as the main person perpetuating this self-fulfilling prophecy of the Finch family, but one of the beautiful, wonderful things about the game is that Everyone in the family shares this inclination. Everyone perpetuates the prophecy. Dawn writes a poem about Gus's death, Sam creates worlds for Calvin and Gregory, Walter waxes philosophic as he walks to his death. It is ALL highly romanticized, and I don't think any of these people are bad for doing so. And I don't think What Remains of Edith Finch wants you to think of them as bad for doing it either. Not purely, anyway. It's flawed in its intensity but achingly human in its tenderness. There is so much love here in this family and so much hope, despite the darkness. I think that's one of the really interesting conflict the game presents, the imagined joy vs. the terrible grief, how they coincide and can reinforce each other. But it isn't cruel. At any rate, despite that bone I had to pick, thank you for talking about this game. It definitely deserves the air time.
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