Chair Foxx Rips Columbia President's Testimony After Tense Antisemitism Hearing

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House Committee on Education & the Workforce

2 ай бұрын

The rise of antisemitism on college campuses is disturbing and threatening to Jewish students, faculty, and staff. Since the barbaric attack on October 7, antisemitism-verging on support for Hamas terrorism-has been pervasive at Columbia, and university administrators have been left paralyzed in response.
Chairwoman of the House Education and the Workforce Committee Virginia Foxx (R-NC) joined Greta Van Susteren on Newsmax to discuss the Committee's antisemitsm hearing, where Members demanded accountability from the top members of Columbia leadership, including President Minouche Shafik, for the disturbing wave of antisemitic harassment and discrimination engulfing Columbia University's campus.
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@chatify68 2 ай бұрын

Just like UPenn and Harvard, that Columbia president MUST GO!!!!

@mikelundmikel4006 2 ай бұрын

Ya way to educated

@jacobbay3114 2 ай бұрын

@@mikelundmikel4006😂😂😂

@mikelundmikel4006 2 ай бұрын

@@jacobbay3114 I love people laughing who's knowledge of Palestine started Oct 7 along with Israeli lies and propaganda.good for you.

@sherrycohen1824 2 ай бұрын

Same with prez of MIT. How did she get off?

@Noa-cc9ur 2 ай бұрын

@@mikelundmikel4006 I love those who think it started in 1948 When they know full well that the Muslims massacred Jews way before then because they want to eradicate the Jews So cut the bs The Jews always wanted peace the Muslims immigrants who moved there during the Ottoman Empire regime never wanted peace they wanted to still the land from the Jews and kill the Jews they tried and failed again and again ever since

@marci3667 2 ай бұрын

FIRE HER,!

@dawnemile7499 2 ай бұрын

These people in academia thought that they would not be held accountable.

@lf9341 2 ай бұрын

Hamas’ propaganda is brilliantly crafted with all the right buzzwords to entice young American far lefties who think they are experts in everything but know nothing. They exploit words like apartheid, colonization and genocide in cause accusations of Israel that actually reflect Hamas. Hamas’s creation of SJP to exploit college campuses was a brilliantly evil strategy.

@thomasmbr 2 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@karenrobertson1673 2 ай бұрын

Incompetent! Disgraceful!!

@moranjacobsongalon978 2 ай бұрын

Show me the money. Someone is paying for this movement.

@1234singer 2 ай бұрын

Qatar

@sherrycohen1824 2 ай бұрын

Absoutely! How are these students paying for the tents?

@josephs9451 Ай бұрын

Please donot ask many questions.because she is a child.and as a child she now try to understand whether there is Ny proffessor as Hamas terrorist getting the payment from America And also whether there any antisematism groups are protesting inside the campus.Give that child lot of time and milk to drink. My good America what is your future? Are you going to be the headquarters of Hamas ,Hizbulla like terrorist groups.

@charlenebotha7164 2 ай бұрын

Thanks to Virginia and others for standing up for what is right

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

HUAC to 2024, "first as tragedy, then as farce."

@marktonello3535 2 ай бұрын

WOW....she hesitated to terminate him as chairperson. What a FRAUD

@bleep957 2 ай бұрын

At the end of the day if you have students that are being targeted for being black , Jewish or any ethnicity then that cannot be allowed . Debate yes , abuse and intimidation can fester and spread .

@ruthbanon6049 2 ай бұрын

No no no. No black or ethnic students are being targeted. Jews are being targeted as "white priviledged". Whites are being targeted by DEI. No one else.

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

In a traditional First Amendment forum, all of this is permitted. Have you forgotten the Westboro Baptist Church case? Or RAV v. City of St. Paul? Both involved odious speech and expression. The speakers won in both. Targeting people individually, where they work or study or live, is entirely different. That is harassment, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and so forth. If it rises to the level of true threats or intimidation, it's a crime: summon the police. Where is Nadine Strossen, now that we desperately need her to speak out? The Constitution isn't a Miss Manners tome. (And don't tell me Columbia is private: every private university has incorporated First Amendment jurisprudence into its bylaws, by choice.)

@gdiwolverinemale4th 2 ай бұрын

@@l.w.paradis2108 Don't tell that to those who love the corrupt cabal

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

@@gdiwolverinemale4th This fundraising is working out great for them. They've never had to do so little to rake in so much.

@user-pf7tf3rf1u 2 ай бұрын

The protests are not antisemitism they are anti genocide by Israel. Israelism is not Judaism. Genocide is wrong. This is AIPAC controlling members of Congress with donations and using antisemitism as a weapon.

@ibatan7243 2 ай бұрын

Her last name is "Shafiq" which in arabic means: (tender or forgiving). So, if the name is her husband's last name or if it was her maiden name then she is of arabic background and NAURALLY will be biased against the Jews and to the side of the arabs/hammas/islam. She must have got her job thanks to the quattari and islamic grants sent to U of Columbia.

@mightyoak11111 2 ай бұрын

Why is Ms. Shavik still the president of Columbia University??? If it were any other ethnic group that were targeted, called ethnic slurs, intimidated and harassed, those protests would have been shut down and the students and professors disciplined. The university's non-response is pathetic and shows complicity.

@lewisr1164 2 ай бұрын

Why was it so hard for the Columbia president to answer questions? Virginia Fox is a classy woman.

@gdiwolverinemale4th 2 ай бұрын

Might be classy but full of ....

@EnaK.ktoridouKK 2 ай бұрын

president of columbia has a muslim last name

@mofallah2400 2 ай бұрын

@@gdiwolverinemale4th full of what?

@gdiwolverinemale4th 2 ай бұрын

@@mofallah2400 Look up the common expressions in English ... for not telling the truth

@LinA-it9vd 2 ай бұрын

@@gdiwolverinemale4thFull of what?

@nrodry76 2 ай бұрын

Columbia U. is financed with Qatar money. What do you expect?

@user-pg1wc6se3k 2 ай бұрын

just like harvard or many big universities are funded by other powers or govt senate congress funded by AIPAC what you expect

@sandrascott7351 2 ай бұрын

She should be sacked right now

@AntisemiteVictimcard 2 ай бұрын

Nope !! For what exactly.

@AntisemiteVictimcard 2 ай бұрын

@@Uuilll3LNot true

@Uuilll3L 2 ай бұрын

Amazing that she lasted for so long.

@AntisemiteVictimcard 2 ай бұрын

@@Uuilll3L The pathetic weeping and whining about antisemitism while a genocide is taking place is even more amazing

@jacobbay3114 2 ай бұрын

@AntisemiteVictimcard define genocide.

@nortonyatzee7254 2 ай бұрын

She seems like the type of lady that should be running a thrift shop.

@seyhanbinns5539 2 ай бұрын

do you run a thrift shop?

@eden3685 2 ай бұрын

Is this real? Are we really in 2024?

@user-hg9fl7ep1v 2 ай бұрын

It sounds like nazi germany

@user-pg1wc6se3k 2 ай бұрын

human race has not changed at all, do you see difference how pharo was acting and how powers treat weak people now?

@MM-my3pc 2 ай бұрын

Haha as a woman I laughed at your comment that its nice to see woman presidents but oh boy … I want to see leadership act like leaders. Sick of seeing women in leadership positions not take a firm position. Chair Foxx is a leader … want to see more like her …

@jbstonesfan 2 ай бұрын

Tragic what has happened to our one time prestigious Universities.

@lf9341 2 ай бұрын

@kevinpohlner2840 2 ай бұрын

So the label of the protest is more important than the subjective nature of the activities? If Hitler called his extermination attempt, "train rides for freedom," he'd be looked at differently by historians?

@nortonyatzee7254 2 ай бұрын

It was a weird exchange and a silly defense.

@David-bc4rh 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for the sound logic.

@Itsstuff7328 2 ай бұрын

I think you're right to bring up historians. The historians in Columbia's dept no longer teach history, or else these students would know they are repeating it. They repeat slogans about a country they've never thought of before last fall and in all these 6 months, they still get it wrong

@user-ed3yi2nv9g 2 ай бұрын

Why was this Jew hating Professor appointed? Says it all. WHO IS PAYING THEM……

@nagaxplorer2022 2 ай бұрын

Didn’t she have all these months to prepare!!! She was jittery, on edge, unsure in her answers. Negative body language. Just angers you 🤮

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

She couldn't even give the standard answer that personnel matters are handled in accordance with strict procedures and remain confidential until concluded. The incompetence is a shock.

@jewii3824 2 ай бұрын

You do realize most of the congressmen are there with "gotcha" questions and almost no one let's Shafik finish her sentence (which is typical of these kinds of hearings). These hearings are not there to allow the ppl summoned to answer questions. They are there to humiliate them, simple as that. Now whether that's good or bad, that's debatable, I'm not gonna comment on that. But to say that Shafik is nervous, well, no shit? If she says the wrong thing she could be fired. Have any of you ever had a job?

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

@jewii3824 If someone pulled HUAC on me, I'd stop answering or push right back and see what happens. You don't think I would? Oh yes I would. Twenty years ago, no. Today? Try me.

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

@@jewii3824 It's good for fundraising. Fundraising is Job One.

@jewii3824 2 ай бұрын

@@l.w.paradis2108 You can do all that confrontational stuff, but tomorrow you will be fired from your job. so you can be as brave as you want "in theory", but you are not the president of an ivy uni are you?

@nedsadeh5234 2 ай бұрын

Considering that she has had months to prepare, the President of Columbia performed poorly and brought no honor to her school. She should be sacked!

@kittyroo9294 2 ай бұрын

This is moral cowardice

@lunabasoledad372 2 ай бұрын

RESIGN NOW

@lunabasoledad372 2 ай бұрын

Columbia present administration MUST RESIGN NOW. DONATIONS and FUNDING Columbia Univ. must also STOP.

@user-il2eu1lr9u 2 ай бұрын

Påtryckningar i moskén?

@Gotlev6 2 ай бұрын

She clearly needs to find her way out!

@gbtBob 2 ай бұрын

There is a need to establish term limits for these individuals.

@kd359 2 ай бұрын

Its not protesting its antisocial domestic terrorism.

@davidswanson5669 2 ай бұрын

It’s always intolerable, when it’s speech you don’t like. Spoken like a hypocrite.

@kd359 2 ай бұрын

@@davidswanson5669 The right to protest comes with responsibilities. Abusing people as they go about their business in public space, obstructing others from using public space by camping in it is antisocial. It's got nothing to do with their right to express their workd view. Its the entitled manner in which they choose to do it. Threatening people and obstructing them from getting a coffee at Starbucks is antisocial. Protest all they like but do it without intruding on others rights not to.

@davidswanson5669 2 ай бұрын

@@kd359 I totally agree with you. Any protestor (or group of protestors) who end up just behaving like spoiled kids, or at worst - criminals, are in no way helping their cause. I’m just saying that the “cause” shouldn’t be redefined when a select group of those protesters end up undermining the message. I guess by that logic I shouldn’t be so harsh on “BLM” as an overall protest, even though it was quickly overtaken by thuggish behavior and grifting.

@demetriusc5676 2 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯

@kd359 2 ай бұрын

@@larynOneka8080Sounds like you might need a cup of tea and a nap. Wailing all sorts of assumptions there. But anyhow, quite the opposite absolutely fundamentally believe in free speech. Where free speech becomes "violence " is when it is exercised in an abusivre, intimidating or threatening manner towards others. When it calls for physical harm to others or other societal groups. When the right is utilised to obstruct the rights of others do go about their liberty free of intimidation, threats or "obstruction" in 'shared public space'. Free speech comes with civil responsibilitiest. The previous lack of policing regarding the antisocial manner in which people have chosen to express their free speech has led to, on this occasion, intervention. Thats because civil society is fedup with the disrespect shown towards others rights who may think differently and their freedom to do so. Rights are not oneway traffic we all have them. Silencing and oppressing others rights with calls for harm or social obstruction is not exercising free speech its abuse. Oddly enought it is the students who often react like words are violence unable to tolerate a conversation regarding contested concepts, often literally tantruming at others who do not share their view. Even curtailing the freedoms of those members if the community who have no view on the matter. They needed a good reason to get outside in the fresh air for a change. Actually surprised they haven't turned to dust 😂 . Don't bother I won't read it

@mikalliz2167 2 ай бұрын

If she wants to keep her job she better step the f up

@omoladewellington960 2 ай бұрын

Shameful,disgraceful,

@gdiwolverinemale4th 2 ай бұрын

Indeed it is. Not standing up for the freedom of speech on the Campus

@BishopVampire69 2 ай бұрын

@@gdiwolverinemale4thhate speech is not freedom

@gdiwolverinemale4th 2 ай бұрын

@@BishopVampire69 Who decides what is h speech? The lobby?. True ... user pays

@Ruach7777 2 ай бұрын

@@gdiwolverinemale4thso it would be ok to have a protest against LGBTQ, and that is freedom of speech? It would be ok to have a protest against blacks and that would be ok? You are part of the problem.

@Irina-iw5ji 2 ай бұрын

@@gdiwolverinemale4thdid you not listen? This isn’t freedom of speech this is hate speech there is also harassment and assaults on campus.

@vanessashimoni6548 2 ай бұрын

She was appalling, gaslighting, lying and spewing bs throughout her testimony.

@davidpkwy5068 2 ай бұрын

She is Egyptian, it says a lot.

@eddiethegray1884 2 ай бұрын

A significant stoppage for contributions by donors will speak louder than anything else. It is time for Universities to be held accountable for their actions.

@FoundingFathersUSA 2 ай бұрын

All the history of dehumanization of Jewish people is ignored in order to dehumanize once again.

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

Can't this woman stand up for herself and her university?

@mofallah2400 2 ай бұрын

With her secret agenda she doesn't have a leg to stand.

@Tzfatsky 2 ай бұрын

She wants it to continue, she is also an anti Semite, she’s smart enough to play dumber.

@messianicjewPhd2023 2 ай бұрын

Why are ONLY the ELITE universities brought out for investigation and interviewed on TV? Im suffering academically and emotionally at a Baptist Seminary in Virginia....HELP ME!!! No one gives a crap about my experience.

@nortonyatzee7254 2 ай бұрын

Go start an anti Jewish protest and get things rolling bub!

@mightyoak11111 2 ай бұрын

I would recommend that you document your experience with photo and video and once you have gathered enough evidence, you share with university officials, if there are any that you trust, and ADL.

@alviverdeus 2 ай бұрын

Because it's performance art and nobody gives a crap about the Baptist Seminary of Virginia. Glad I could help.

@l.w.paradis2108 2 ай бұрын

@@alviverdeus LOL, but even more, it's fundraising. Money that might have gone to universities will now go to Republican campaign coffers.

@oldiebutgoodie2554 2 ай бұрын

@@alviverdeus you’re a sad individual and you didn’t help anything! You just showed your ignorance!

@yb6465 2 ай бұрын

Does the college pres have an isis membership card?

@Dazbog373 2 ай бұрын

Why is this foreign Muslim president of Columbia?

@temperedwell6295 2 ай бұрын

She is more an internationalist globalist banker than muslim. Same difference?

@gdiwolverinemale4th 2 ай бұрын

Why do Jey was own the district?

@fkcavs 2 ай бұрын

@@gdiwolverinemale4th Is this English ?

@gdiwolverinemale4th 2 ай бұрын

@@fkcavs It is ... adjusted to the FYTAI conditions. I want my post to be visible

@temperedwell6295 2 ай бұрын

She is more an international banker than a Muslim. So much for the J---sh banker conspiracy theory, anyway.

@debbiemac1923 2 ай бұрын

What bothers me is the President’s hesitancy. Why can they not take a stand.

@allenarneson4349 2 ай бұрын

This is DEI in action. Hiring people who have no business being in the position they are in.

@zbacku2501 2 ай бұрын

She needs to be fired from her job because she's lying and will not do anything to stop the racist actions of the students

@Sardarji-bq6oj 2 ай бұрын

That woman being questioned by congress is a fruit loop 😅

@Neo_Red_Pill 2 ай бұрын

Deeply sad for the parents who have paid a lot of money for their children to radicalised🙏

@lf9341 2 ай бұрын

@emmaikeokafor3704 2 ай бұрын

Can you do this type of demonstrations in Iran or Muslim countries?That president should be sacked

@xiuhtezcatl8161 2 ай бұрын

Maybe need a male president who has BRAIN and use it

@anytajp7419 2 ай бұрын

There are plenty of women with brains but for some "strange" reason we don't seem to meet liberal DEI standards. 🤔

@sophiachavez3377 2 ай бұрын

Since when do the men do any better?

@VioletWings1353 2 ай бұрын

Gender doesn't play a role in this. Good grief. 🙄

@edog101 2 ай бұрын

Do any "elite" schools hire non-DEI administrators anymore? We know they need the Jews to teach math and physics, so they hand all the administrative and BS fluff subjects to DEI candidates. Merit-based systems should never have been abandoned for the sake of "equity." The result is a moral catastrophe.

@technoverse101 2 ай бұрын

Never s straight answer or truth from a Lib

@deborahdills4670 2 ай бұрын

Sack Shafik now

@RodinThink28 2 ай бұрын

At least she did not smirk, which is what those other Presidents did

@C_A65 2 ай бұрын

The Ivy League schools went woke way before woke became a household word.

@kimshienbaum3071 2 ай бұрын

Solution? In the absence of changes then withdraw all fed funds and bar foreign funding of Columbia altogether. NOW

@arieladelinechoo9845 2 ай бұрын

You cannot control your students and allow them to conduct hostile actions INSIDE the campus. Please have someone that can control the students. They are young and full of idealism and lack of self control ....

@jonstein9200 2 ай бұрын

Maybe we should get some men as presidents because it doesn’t seem to be working with all these women presidents that does it. No, it does not.

@user-xt8pv3he3m 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Chair Foxx

@melburke5405 2 ай бұрын

How much $ from Federal purse is granted to Columbia University receive?

@sophiachavez3377 2 ай бұрын

What a weak woman the Colombia president! Couldn’t lead a girl scout troop.

@StandWithIsraelForever 2 ай бұрын

Am I the only one noticing that this type of behviour started to become acceptable when Women started having executive roles? I wonder why that is that all 4 are women?

@lf9341 2 ай бұрын

And DEI.

@bunyinjbhadi7524 2 ай бұрын

The Dumbing Down Of America - Charlotte Iserbyt...should be held as standard operating procedure of Americans..!!

@144Donn 2 ай бұрын

Her hesitation and difficulty calling it what it is, straight up unvarnished JEW HATRED, is unreal! How people can be so obsessed and filled with hatred, to me is unimaginable. I may dislike people or not care for them, but this degree of obsession in a psychosis!

@ps603 2 ай бұрын

Virginia Fox Is one of the good guys..Not very many of those in DC..

@madelinebock6469 2 ай бұрын

antisemis don't change

@axel-wn3od 2 ай бұрын

these women seem to feel they are above being questioned about morality etc because of their positions at these universities

@dianaluzzatto9799 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for speaking so clearly!

@Toddlesandtales-Savia 2 ай бұрын

University president are all in support of what has happened. They all love it. Just like the man said ‘awesome’. They all feel it’s awesome. These guys are barbarous

@roybeach3397 2 ай бұрын

TAKE.THE. GRANTS. AWAY ..

@SCM0NDT 2 ай бұрын

Do these people know the definition of a semite? What kind of university is this? What kind of journalism is this?

@BalooBearYeah 2 ай бұрын

Even the news host realised the university President was just another quota hire.

@bunyinjbhadi7524 2 ай бұрын

What an absolute JOKE..!! House Committee on Education & the Workforce should stand down and return to English classes for basic English 101. How dare this bunch of fools pretend they know about education....what a bloody joke..!!

@kevinfox1780 2 ай бұрын

Why do Ivey League presidents stutter so much?

@professionalapprentice501 2 ай бұрын

reminds me of the holy inquisition, how many innocents were declared devil worshipers and condemned?

@Happyonthelake 2 ай бұрын

The Supreme Court has identified narrow exceptions to the First Amendment, including but not limited to speech that constitutes unlawful incitement, true threats, intimidation, or discriminatory harassment. Some of these carefully-defined exceptions encompass speech that one might identify as hate speech.

@shookieshaz 2 ай бұрын

Problem is there were really no serious "consequences" even after they admittedly admitted that there were many acts I anti- semitism.

@gillstraker1994 2 ай бұрын

PATHETIC !!! The body language is screaming out🤬

@jonstein9200 2 ай бұрын

Omar loves it

@user-iq7th6rd7s 2 ай бұрын

She has to go

@brianfoley3925 2 ай бұрын

What I don't understand is when any student enrolls at any college they have to agree to standards of behaviors and I'll bet those standards include not doing what the students at Columbia are doing...so why isn't the President expelling these students for violating the standards of conduct?

@Tuathadana 2 ай бұрын

She is actually a member of the house of lords in england...

@temperedwell6295 2 ай бұрын

And a member of the IMF.

@David31567 2 ай бұрын

If she use her mouth right , she can be dutchess as well

@Tuathadana 2 ай бұрын

@@temperedwell6295 yeahhhh kick her out

@bebetigre1252 2 ай бұрын

stefanik has real balls

@merlindavilla797 2 ай бұрын

she cannot answer YES OR NO

@JeffSmith-pl2pj 2 ай бұрын

I feel for this president. She gets mercilessly grilled for not disciplining the protesters so the next day she starts suspending protesters and this triggers larger protests calling for her resignation. Why do the students have such power? Why don't they just tell them to go someplace else. There are plenty of people who would love to take their place.

@jacobreal6451 2 ай бұрын

How horrible the president could not answer questions!, Barely

@ricokwan7178 2 ай бұрын

How could taxpayers/doners find people sitting on the top at CU could have performed in such a manner to be acceptable? Entirely disappointing and pathetic to see. No doubt why many woke students could have acted so irrationally there during the recent months.

@johnorel1951 2 ай бұрын

This woman should not run Columbia university or any university all together.

@sidthetraveler 2 ай бұрын

She has to go, period!

@trevorhutchinsonUK2506 Ай бұрын

it is normally considered discourteous to wear a hat indoors not to mention a place of reverence.

@mikec3971 2 ай бұрын

The constant nodding by the president while she speaks is a sign that she’s trying to convince herself that she’s not lying. 😂

@andrewparnell6656 2 ай бұрын

Didn't people read Thomas Sowell before reading history?

@max2lena 2 ай бұрын

Yeah………where is the money coming from?

@davidstephen2955 2 ай бұрын

What is the point in congress?

@dimitriskarathanasis4230 2 ай бұрын

Believing in democracy... presupposes listening to the opposite opinion.

@guitarlearningtoplay 2 ай бұрын

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@ttee6990 2 ай бұрын

If this is academia who needs it? Why pay so much money for these results? Oh brother

@nigelsheppard625 2 ай бұрын

And thus sprake the anti-Semite.

@jacobreal6451 2 ай бұрын

Colunbia president should go

@bamaboy7489 2 ай бұрын

Are there any American students at this university?

@gatedancer17 2 ай бұрын

She was far better than the smirking, arrogant Harvard and Penn Presidents. Once they got in a combative exchange, they refused to say anything the least bit agreeable to Stefanik. Felt like thay had to give a condescending, deep-thinker response to the simplest of questions. Not even a 'yes' to a simple question of whether calling for genocide is against harassment policy. The Colombia Prez said 'yes' when appropriate (with hesitation). She did make clear that some questions aren't so cut and dried, while acknowledging that others are. She was fine.

@conradrichard1492 2 ай бұрын

What's with the "echo," Newsmax?

@tomelder6028 2 ай бұрын

They are why the students act like they do

@user-pt2qv2zq2r 2 ай бұрын

It's a hate crime

@EnaK.ktoridouKK 2 ай бұрын

nemat sharif is egyptian > what do you expect

@esmeduplessis941 2 ай бұрын

I would say whether the student is Jewish or African American, AND problem is legitimate it should be investigated, and they are definate American citizens, it should be stopped. BUT if they are not citizens it should also be investigated, with the same vigor. BUT political games should not be tolerated, and these demonstrations are political AND manipilation.