The Pokemon of Smyrna was hard to catch, for his dogs were fierce and plentiful.

"My dog ate my wax tablet"

I studied under Pokemon of Smyrna.

If anyone is wondering what Bart Simpson wrote on the blackboard it was: "Romans, go home!" We know he got the syntax correct because of the scene from Monty Python's Life of Brian. I love your sense of humor, Dr Ryan!

-"I am tired of studying phylosophy. Let's study music now!" -"You will need philosophy much more than music." -"What for?" -"For any state office you're going to hold. You have to prepare for responsibility" -"What I want is to be a great actor, dancer, and singer. Can you talk about responsibility when it comes to art? -"Not of moral responsibility." -"You're an old fool, Seneca -"That's not appropriate at all. You are going to apologize in fifty lines of hendecasyllables that you will present to me tomorrow morning." -"What if I don't present them to you?" -"I'll tell your mother." -"Those Hendecasyllables...can they be sung?" *Argument between phylosopher Seneca and his pupil Nero during the last years of the Reign of Claudius*

This channel is the reason both KZfaq and the internet were ever formulated - to spread knowledge and spark curiosity. I'm eternally grateful that people like you continue to make your genre of content. Much love Garrett I wish you every success x

I bought your audiobook on Audible but was very disappointed to find out that it is narrated by someone else. You an excellent narrator! If in the future you could do the narration itself, that would be amazing

Man it's crazy to think teachers have always been underpaid

Your videos make me feel tingles in my insides

Of course this comes out right after I finish my research outline for "an analysis of greco-roman pedagogy"

For those interested in Roman-era education, the Robert Graves' book "I, Claudius" recounts in great detail from Emperor Claudius' point of view what it was like to be educated among the great elites of the Roman Empire. It's quite funny that Claudius went from being bullied for his disabilities to being respected by his classmates thanks to the influence of his brother Germanicus and his cousin Postumus Agrippa, who were very popular during his school years

If you add Caesar's Commentary on the Gallic Wars, the texts you mention are pretty much the ones I learned taking four years of Latin in high school. With the Romans as hidebound as they often were about curriculum it tickled my sense of humor we were basically still following it 2000 years later

It is pretty funny how most of the ancient rulers who had the privilege of being educated by the greatest minds of the time ended up simply ignoring their teachings. For example: -Alexander the Great consolidated his conquests mainly through the mixture of Greek, Syrian and Indian cultures and races despite the fact that Aristotle taught him as a child that the Syrians and other Eastern peoples were barbarians with whom the Greeks could not mix. -Nero was obsessed with being more of an artist and chariot racer than being an Emperor, despite the fact that his tutor Seneca told him all the time to mature and behave like a great ruler. The only attention Neron gave Seneca was asking him to kill himself. -Commodus was the son of Marcus Aurelius himself, who instilled in him his stoic teachings from a young age, but the only thing that mattered to the boy was becoming Hercules

"perished from studying too hard".....wow. I don't even have a joke for that

The humour and pictures are on point with this one :D

C is for Constantine LOL! 👍

this guy: researching ancient history Google: “did you mean *Pokémon* ??”

"Pokemon of Smyrna..." That made me chuckle...Lol

13:00 Laesus? Sordida dives fieri potes. Voca nunc. Quintus, Quintus et filii

Thank you for being wonderful❤

Hi Doc, unless I missed it it might be a good idea to link those other channels in the description. Happy to find them on my own though!

you are the best. I hope you make a spotify podcast based on stories and experiences. i loved the pompeii series

2 new channels Christmas came early!!!!!!

Very interesting, thank you. I found it particularly interesting how oration and philosophical thought were "taught" in such prescriptive ways. How that parallels today and speaks of human nature across the ages.

Thanks Garrett. I have often wondered about this topic. I enjoy your posts. Keep up the good work.

Very timely, as I am just preparing for lecturing on literacy and education in the Greco-Roman world.

Wonderful stuff!

Do a video about greek and roman working culture pleaseee

This is absolutely perfect for our homeschool unit! Thanks so much!

I am so thankful for your hard and interesting presentation. It keeps my ghosts away

This video is awesome like all of them!

What about more advanced mathematics? Where were the engineers created? Perhaps it was more of an apprenticeship type thing? Thank you for a great video as always!

Crazy how radically things have changed. Here I am, a 4th year English and Philosophy major, with only a passing familiarity of antiquity. Everything I've studied so far seems so...insignificant in the face of these great classics---of Homer, Cicero, Ovid, or even Plato and Aristotle. I suppose, in today's day, I can call myself "educated," yet I know nothing of the very foundation that predicates the Western world. I lament the decline of the classical education.

Thank you!

I love all you do, thank you very much, it is priceless, greetings from the mountains of Colombia.

Damn fine work as always, love me some toldinstone. I was wondering if you would ever do more conversational interviews or long-form podcasts? You've had some really bright people on and those back-and-forths were nice but the questions seemed pre-written and often it felt like interesting doors the answers opened were left entirely unexplored to continue on to the next question at hand. I see the value in doing that but it'd be great to also have something less formal, just a couple historians shooting the shit as equals and letting the magic of all that knowledge unfold itself organically.

I love this channel!!

Great video! I would party with Ancient Greek college students

I like your videos and ancient roman history :)

this is awesome. thank you

Awesome. Great subject.

Got your book on Halloween, made it through the first 4 chapters, it's a very fun read! If anything I wish there were even more references (for some anedoctes that are aluded to in the text) all in all a great book! Thank you.

Just subscribed to all your channels.

In the 60's, I was partly educated in the classical system (element, syntaxe, méthode). It was so useless for the realities of that time. I can't believe I was exposed to the last remnants of the Roman empire. Makes me feel like a fossil !

We studied some greek mythology/writing in my senior language arts class in high school. Absolutely crazy how even in the 2020s United States we still study classical Greek writing.

It’s really cool how I literally just wrote a lesson plan that has an activity that is a Model UN Style crisis Mod about the Bolivarian Revolution but also incorporates paradox style grand strategy elements.

Pliny the younger saved his life by choosing to study rather than accompany his uncle on that 1 last investigation.

4:00 has got to be one of the greatest frames I ever saw studying History on KZfaq

Seems like teachers in the ancient times also suffered with little pay

Interesting! Perhaps a future topic might be a comparison of the Greek SophIsts versus Aristotle and the Trivium way of education

I liked your video. Can you recommend some books about this topic ?

Should have mentioned Quintilian!

Hi, I completed my bachelor course in dentistry in 2005, and was a highschool graduate in 1995.

So strange that the wax tablet and the slate used up to maybe 50 years ago are so similar.

The narrator of this video is so cool and handsome. And clever.

The hierarchy of educational availability and lack of respect for teachers sounds distressingly familiar.

Hebrew is still taught by the method described in the first part of the video. Learn a consonant and the repeat it with all possible vowel combinations. The build shot words and progress onto two, three and four/five syllables. mish ka no tei kha .

I find it fascinating someone in the 2020’s can so ardently believe that someone who lived thousands of years ago and had no framework of the modern psyche or world could so brazenly claim that those contemporaries of an author “misinterpreted” them.

Now I know where the concept of _grammar school_ came from.

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How do we estimate literacy rates in ancient populations?

Is there a code for Speakly? Clicking on the link provides no discount.

Thank you very much for this presentation. It made me realise that one of the reasons there are so few tales of the exploits of the life of Jesus the Christ was the lack of education. I don't recall any of the texts in the New Testament being written in Latin; I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I recall that the languages used were Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew, and Rome had control over every piece of ground that Jesus ever trod. I find this interesting. Thanks again. P. S. (Septuagint might be added to the list but I could be thinking of something else there.)

Where is the video on the ancient cultures in the Balkans, toldinstone

This is seriously one of the best youtube channels by far. Thank you so much for sharing the history of our (Western) civilization. History is one of the greatest gifts we can ever receive from our ancestors. I truly believe that.

Has there been any evidence of smaller features of education meant for adults or foreigners?

Quintus is a pretty great name.

Just finally bought your Kindle version ;-)

Are there any education manuals (esp. bilingual) that have survived to today?

Does anyone know some lf the sources where one can learn more about Roman education?

Is there any way to find a complete list of the images used? I recognize many, but I'd like to know where, for example, the image at 14:26 of three figures (Church fathers?) in black and white robes comes from.

i would use the sponsored app if they had Greek and Latin. That is what I love and why I am here in the first place. (; Very few language learning apps actually have Greek, let alone Latin. Latin is rare in those. I only know of Duolingo having both Latin and Greek.

but... how were the Engineers educated?

I heard they solved the underpaid teacher problem in the middle ages. A teacher wasn't actually paid more but since he had probably taken a vow of poverty it didn't really matter.

I have never been so early

Toga parties?

What I wouldn’t give to be a student of in one of those schools!

Interesting ! I work in history and education and came across Hypatia who was said to be a great teacher with students coming from all over. But this gets me confused : in +300, in roman empire, woman were ofter still confined to the Domus. How could a woman ever attend philosophy "school" or groups or teaching if it was the case ? Even more : how could a woman even become a renowned teacher if women in general were confined to a house ?

It's sad that even in ancient Greek and Rome students had to memorize almost everything and a teacher sometimes had to work two of three jobs to make ends meet.

"And misinterpreted accordingly" nice

My how far we have fallen.

I found slave letters in the London museum from the Roman time period

We need to bring back debating fictional characters' decisions.

Another axium about teaching....."Those who can DO....Those who can't TEACH"

What about engineering?

They were "tutors" not teachers although possibly later in Rome's History something more formalized did arise in having Romans travel to Ancient Greece itself to learn. There is no evidence of an ancient "University System" though of course more of a Roman "way" requiring one to know both Latin and Greek in order to govern which of course gave certain Greeks (though not Greece of course) a truly awesome amount of influence over Romans. This of course would never make Romans into Greeks but yes in some ways the Romans were more fanatical ancient Greeks than the Greeks themselves in a quest to become how a Greek might see there be become a kind of "ultimate Roman."

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Meanwhile, the useful people were learning their trades by working for master craftsmen.

Just add the link to your secondary channels in the description so people can subscribe easier :)

You’re telling me Hooked on Phonics was invented by the Romans.

I bet the toga parties were great oras they called them, “parties.” 😉

You forgot the universities that arose in Western Europe in the High Middle Ages.

You can never truly understand a book unless ur reading it in the native language. It would be very interesting if people who are fluent in old languages to annotate historic books and describe the meaning behind every line.

It makes sense, in a twisted way, that the most necessary jobs are the lowest paid. We require so many teachers, that governments are incentivized to keep ongoing costs, in the form of salaries, down. Taxpayers would rebel if they had to see their taxes go up year after year, eating away at their savings. Taxpayers and landowners, who have a larger stake in outcomes, are also those who tend to vote. I also know understand that proper reform and investment in public schools, tend to produce a decent return on investment on every dollar. If terrible teachers, whom we have all had the pleasure to encounter, lost their jobs, due to incompetence or malicious intent, maybe taxpayers would be willing to pay a higher tax burden. Other wise, its just throwing money into a roaring fire and pretending that because we all feel a little warmer, that everything is getting better. It must frustrate good and honest teachers who see their worthless collegues get the same pay regardless of performance. But if those bad apples, were removed from the bushel, maybe the rot would not spread, and education and teachers pay would rise, allowing good teachers to be better ones.

This is a really great video, but the cadence of the speaker is really repetitive and becomes funny at about 5mins and infuriating at 7mins. My class of 12 year olds were all laughing and humming along with it, going up at every third word.

Say what you want about how English is complex because it evolves and intersects with so many other languages, trying to learn Latin will make you want to stick to English. Engli, Englorum, Englis, Englos, Englis x20 in order to phrase things in unnecessary and extinct ways that no modern romantic language would imagine. And thank god for arabic numerals.

heh, paid in experience

It wasn't college as we know it.

and you thought our schooling system was bad

This is completely unrelated but: Once a classicist was asked if he agreed to hybrid teaching. Replied the classicist: oh well... Yo mamma so fat... Replied the superintendent: Your ubris does not amuse me. Sayed the teacher: Well, you've asked for it.