EE Canberra: The Leap Forward

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Dwaynes Aviation

Ай бұрын

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@alanparkinson549 Ай бұрын

You've got the labels for the Lysander and the Whirlwind photos crossed over!

@user-en9zo2ol4z Ай бұрын

I have always considered the Canberra to be the first in a winning line of aircraft from English Electric. Remarkable in its day, to such an extent that even the USAF were forced to purchase them, as they lacked any aircraft with its unique abilities. Reading chief test pilot Beaumont's book about his very first flight across the Atlantic, the tower at Washington needed identification when he arrived seeking landing instructions The tower had not noticed him at his height or direction. While in use by the RAF, it ran any number of spy missions over Soviet territory, while the Soviets remained oblivious. Further, I have viewed this beautiful aircraft many times, and always marvel at its relatively small size, being smaller than many modern fighter jets. Despite which, it could carry a serviceable bomb load, and reconnaissance cameras. The Canberra had a very distinguished career, even being used during the Vietnam War, where it served admirably.

@socaljarhead7670 Ай бұрын

The Canberra did absolutely everything that was asked of it. Superb aircraft.

@jameswebb4593 Ай бұрын

Mention should have been made of the PR Canberra's role in photographing the Soviet Union before America had its Lockheed U2 .

@plymouth5714 Ай бұрын

Apparently after Gary Powers' U2 was shot down the US President forbade any further flights and the US military was so desperate that they had to beg the RAF to fly their recon missions for them in the Canberras!

@billballbuster7186 Ай бұрын

It was without doubt one of the best aircraft of its generation that was a great export success eventually flying with 15 air forces. It was built under license in the US as the Martin B-57 from 1953, winning a competition with five other aircraft for the contract. Some later Reconnaissance and Intruder variants saw action in the Vietnam War from 1963 to 1972.

@-lightningwill-6014 Ай бұрын

Apart from being produced under license by the US some African air forces still fly their original canberras today which is a huge testament to the engineering used

@Sacto1654 Ай бұрын

The USAF had seriously looked at the Martin XB-51, which was a highly-innovative plane in its own right. But development difficulties with the XB-51 resulted in the choosing of the B-57, which was built in large numbers for the USAF. The USAF versions also had a new nose design with tandem seating and a much larger canopy. And it was Martin who developed the RB-57D and eventually RB-57F, planes that could fly at nearly 70,000 feet in altitude and could carry much larger cameras than the U-2.

@billballbuster7186 Ай бұрын

@@Sacto1654 The B-57 was based on the early Canberra B Mk2, but with different canopy. Interestingly the B-57 style canopy was used later on the B Mk6(I) Interdictor and later reconnaissance versions.

@davem2369 Ай бұрын

@@-lightningwill-6014no, they don't. The only Canberra's in use today are the NASA ones

@richardcoggins739 Ай бұрын

I wish you could have covered the use of the Canberra by the US Air Force during the Vietnamese War. Hopefully you can do so in a future video.

@ianhelyar6383 Ай бұрын

I remember seeing the Canberra flying from Amberley in Queensland, when I was a lot younger. I always thought it was a beautiful plane, reminiscent of a Spitfire. If form follows function, the Canberra was just about perfect.

$@iffracem$

@iffracem Ай бұрын

Sadly, a lot of the Australian Canberra's ended their careers as target drones.

@mikenewman4078 Ай бұрын

When I started working at Amberley the Cranberries were still flying and the Pigs were being introduced. The Canberras were so graceful doing touch and goes, the Pigs were every inch meanness personified. The touch on go in a Pig was obviously more complex but spectacular. They reminded me of a Water Hen, all the orange bits flashing, then slam, slam, slam all the spoilers etc closing, a big boot in the arse and gone. No Canberra type grace, just raw power. The difference between Poms and Yanks I suppose.

@ianhelyar6383 Ай бұрын

@@mikenewman4078 every time my dad saw an F111, he'd say, there goes 60 million of my money! But we had them for a looooong time!

@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын

Wellington, New Zealand, is the furthest capital in the Empire/Commonwealth.

@nilanjangupta763 9 күн бұрын

This aircraft was both used by the Indian and Pak Airforces. Saw conflicts such as the '65 ,'71 Indo Pak Wars and the '99 Kargil Conflict. Although it was rendered as obsolete by the time of Kargil war.

@jamesmcclure815 Ай бұрын

The US used a Martin Aircraft made variant in South East Asia. I missed any mention of that.

@hangie65 Ай бұрын

Excellent historical review of the Canberra.

@JoshJones-37334 Ай бұрын

They have one at Wings Over the Rockies. When I was there a few years ago they let me sit in it. The volunteer curators there are great. Give them a visit if you’re ever in Denver.

@JoshJones-37334 Ай бұрын

Edit: as pointed out the WOtR bird is a Martin

@mickvonbornemann3824 Ай бұрын

H’mm no mention of the American variants, some of which are still used by NASA today.

@danmcdonald9117 Ай бұрын

Canberra is so beautiful

@LeonAust Ай бұрын

You should of mentioned that the Australian Canberra's excelled in the Vietnam war, with ground troops from Australia and the US preferring a Canberra's than others.

@onenote6619 Ай бұрын

If nothing else, the Canberra showed the potential of even the early jet engines. In all regards the airframe used conventional aerodynamics and construction, but it used them very well and leveraged the engine advantages.

@warpartyattheoutpost4987 Ай бұрын

Thanks! I'm ordering 3D printed miniature Canberras for the UK and ANZAC for our Cold War Axis&Allies house rules. This really helps!

@ChuckieFinzter Ай бұрын

I had the honour of working on them between 1985 and 1988 at RAF Wyton. (B2, B2t and T4).

@matthewmoore5698 26 күн бұрын

Broke multiple records wouldn’t surprise me if a couple still stand!

@frankmitchell3594 Ай бұрын

The WB-57 variant of the Canberra is still used by NASA.

@brianwillson9567 Ай бұрын

The cranberry was, quite simply, two or three steps ahead of anything of its time.

@davidpeters6536 Ай бұрын

Why no mention of the Martin B-57?

@user-vl5wg7gu7g Ай бұрын

Nasa had a U2 and B-57 in hanger 936, I saw the B-57 take off ( new engines) like a scalded cat. They were doing high altitude ice crystal testing.

@joegoldberg8770 Ай бұрын

Why no mention of Canberra extensive service with the United States.

@misterthemad994 Ай бұрын

Dude just called the wyvern a fighter jet...

@alasdairclark4213 Ай бұрын

I think the recon version was in service into the 2000's

@kevinbarry71 Ай бұрын

The capital of New Zealand is farther from London than is the capital of Australia

@beh1972 Ай бұрын

Useless fun fact, at 2326km Canberra and Wellington share the title for the worlds most remote capital cities

@Evilroco Ай бұрын

I guess whoever did the graphics knows mothing about aircraft , how cold you confuse a Whirlwind (twin engine fighter) with a Lysander (single engine observation plane with gull wing and spatted fixed undercarriage) And then the narrator calls the Wyvern a "fighter jet" despite the plane clearly having a propeller. that's as far as I got ,not worth wasting time if that's the accuracy of their film.

@Evilroco Ай бұрын

@@terrystevens5261 Clearly whoever made the vid was confused ,or they wouldn't have made so many errors in the opening minutes . How could you trust anything else they say ? The wyvern was Turbo prop after the initial MK , no one talking about aviation calls it a jet , and it wasn't even a fighter but a strike aircraft so wrong on both counts.

@heneagedundas Ай бұрын

@terrystevens5261 They actually labelled the picture of a Lysander as a Whirlwind, and vice versa. That seems pretty confused to me.

@brianwillson9567 Ай бұрын

At least the picture of Mr Petter is correct! Get that one wrong would be an even greater insult to the man.

@victorhs258 Ай бұрын

NASA still flies the WB-57 N928NA, registration expires on June 30, 2024.

@user-dl3se9iy4r Ай бұрын

Yes I agree the Russian missions. Also if I remember correctly 3 Sqd based at RAF Geilenkirchen in Germany had a Nuclear role with two aircraft held in Quick Reaction Alert. However I was only 8 then but the USAF were on the Station I think for that purpose.

@user-dl3se9iy4r Ай бұрын

I have just checked Jack T C Long's book Three's Company who confirms this and the weapons were Uncle Sam's. Page 177.

@FortuneZer0 Ай бұрын

"Lusaka tower, this is Green Leader."

@wallycox4579 Ай бұрын

I liked this but I wish it had covered the US variants.

@TonyPalmer103 Ай бұрын

Who did the start graphic

@josephbaca5214 Ай бұрын

Lysander accidentally placed above non lysander in intro.

@wafudave6041 Ай бұрын

Missed out the T17 varient.

@mebeasensei Ай бұрын

Weren’t these in Vietnam.

@xyzguy5903 Ай бұрын

Yes, they were. Stationed at Phan Rang AB, just south of Cam Ranh Bay AB. 1969. Saw then personally.

@brettcoster4781 Ай бұрын

Both the RAAF and USAF operated Canberras in Vietnam. The Australian ones were built in Australia (B20 version, with the original canopy) and the American ones were US-built B57s with the 2-seat tandem canopy.

@AlistairGale Ай бұрын

Hey Dwayne : CaNberra might want to change the thumbnail

@paulgamble7548 Ай бұрын

Were also early nuclear armed bombers under QRA in the mid 60s before the V Bombers took over. Scary and rather exciting.

@propman3523 Ай бұрын

Didn't the US produce this plane under license?

@kelvinfoote9897 Ай бұрын

Yes, as the Martin B 57, with a greater wingspan and tandem cockpit.

@liborrez6657 Ай бұрын

Where is better U.S. variant B-57?

@victorhoe2321 Ай бұрын

Interesting that Canada's last domestic all weather fighter, the Avro CF100 looks similiar.. It was part of NORAD and deployed to Germany as part of NATO's forces.

@franciscook5819 Ай бұрын

1:00 Whirlwind & Lysander labels are swapped. You missed some interesting facts. I offer some. The last RAF Canberra (a PR9) was withdrawn from service in 2006 marking 55 years since service entry in 1951. The highest published altitude of a PR9 Canberra is over 70,000ft (it took the world altitude record in 1957). At least one PR Canberra suffered shrapnel/gun damage flying a PR mission over Russia (the Kapustin Yar mission). That may well have been a B2 configured for reconnaissance. The Canberra was one of very few UK aircraft adopted (and modified) by the USA for its air force as the Martin B57 and for NASA. Three of the NASA aircraft (RB57Fs) are still in use, reengined with TF33 (like the B52), and are sometimes used to provide high altitude and downrange video coverage of space launches.

@neiloflongbeck5705 Ай бұрын

RR also dropped the development of the large turbojet.

@theirthereandtheyre2947 Ай бұрын

Forerunner to the U2

@rocksnot952 Ай бұрын

Even better as the RB-57.

@m1t2a1 Ай бұрын

The Americans flew them into the 80s.

@wafudave6041 Ай бұрын

And the UK flew them into the 90s

@Schlipperschlopper Ай бұрын

From concept the Canberra followed the German ARADO Blitz jet bomber from WW2

@BV-fr8bf Ай бұрын

Surprised, no mention of the (American) B-57 (variant.)

@-lightningwill-6014 Ай бұрын

Because not everything is about the Americans? It's a video on British aeronautics

@gort8203 Ай бұрын

@@-lightningwill-6014 Perhaps you can't see past the large chip on your shoulder, but mentioning the Martin-produced version would only highlight the international success of the basic design. Such success was rare enough that I would think you would wish to highlight it.

@-lightningwill-6014 Ай бұрын

@@gort8203 well, canberras are still flown in their original British configuration by a few African air forces operationally, like for bombing, there's canberras still being used for their intended role to today, how many b57s are still in combat operational service today?, there's 3 NASA test beds but it's a bit of a Vio comparing the two considering, and even then NASA also uses British canberras so....

@gort8203 Ай бұрын

@@-lightningwill-6014 Wow, that's some twisted logic. Because some third world air forces still operate their version of an obsolete bomber the world's most powerful air force should still operate its version? Seriously? And again, your parochial attitude causes you to miss the point, which is not about which version is better, but the fact that the basic design was versatile and prolific. I hope you don't handle firearms, because you're likely to shoot yourself in the foot.

@rvsteve583 Ай бұрын

@@gort8203 yah!

@clangerbasher Ай бұрын

Wellington..............not the bomber the capital of New Zealand............... A bit further on that Ozziietralia...........

@GaryChurch-hi8kb Ай бұрын

Really sad the RAF did not modify them with longer wings like the Americans did making them only slightly less capable than the U-2.

@JBinthesticks Ай бұрын

Canberra PR9?🙂

@Eric-kn4yn Ай бұрын

Cant compare to U2 which had much longer service life.

@GaryChurch-hi8kb Ай бұрын

@@Eric-kn4yn Can you google? They are still in service with NASA.

@terrystevens5261 Ай бұрын

@@Eric-kn4yn Had ? they still fly over my house on a regular basis.

@swampmonster4935 Ай бұрын

I believe the Gen 1 through the Gen 3 era of jet aircraft was the greatest. Every conceivable design was seriously looked at and we got some of the most unique and iconic aircraft. Seems like the newest era of military aircraft are becoming cookie cutter copies.

@shirleydrury5565 Ай бұрын

Don’t spilt hairs!!😂

@birlyballop4704 Ай бұрын

Too much camber in the camembert!

@xgford94 Ай бұрын

???caMberra???

@Dwaynesaviation Ай бұрын

Saw that too, will fix it asap 😂

@indigohammer5732 Ай бұрын

The Wyvern wasn’t a jet, the captions showing Westland aircraft are wrong. This isn’t even three minutes in...#pisspoor

@terrystevens5261 Ай бұрын

The Wyvern was a turbo-jet.

@KapiteinKrentebol Ай бұрын

Also got the Lysander and Whirlwind mixed up.

@bodan1196 Ай бұрын

@@terrystevens5261 No, it's called a turbo-prop. 🙂 There are basically three "kinds" of gas turbin propulsion. The original turbo-jet, (not counting the Caproni as it was no gas turbin involved.) the turbo-prop, and the turbo-fan. The similarities, and differences of these, are quite interesting.

@terrystevens5261 Ай бұрын

@@bodan1196 Yes, my mistake.

@TonyPalmer103 Ай бұрын

Spelt Canberra. Not Camberra

@Jack-bs6zb Ай бұрын

spelled ‘Canberra’ not spelt Canberra

@shirleydrury5565 Ай бұрын

Come on you are better than THAT!!😢😢😢

@TonyPalmer103 Ай бұрын

Camberra

@ianhelyar6383 Ай бұрын

@@Jack-bs6zb who cares how the semi-literate renegade colonials spelt it! ;-)

@terrystevens5261 Ай бұрын

@@TonyPalmer103 Nope.

@Hopeless_and_Forlorn Ай бұрын

British engineers: I say, old chaps, this new Canberra looks absolutely stunning. Let's move a few things sideways and add a lot of bumps and protrusion until it looks like a typical British ugly stepchild of an airplane. And so they did.