I appreciate the kind words!

I would like to ask how much, if any, improvement did you gain in speed and coverage going from your second gen eero to the Pro 6. Did you go from Wifi 5 to Wifi 6 with this upgrade? I'm considering doing the same but not sure if it's worth the investment. Thanks.

​@@denniso8380 going from my Eero Pro second generation to the Eero Pro 6 was an improvement in speed and a vast improvement in coverage. I never had any coverage issues with my second gen. Eero Pro. However the Eero Pro 6 coverage is superior. I can go down the street and still be connected to my Wi-Fi and the 2.4Ghz band is expansive and rock solid for my different BBQ thermometer and sprinkler monitors throughout yard. Eero Pro 6 also is faster, especially with multiple devices connected. Eero pro 6 is only slightly faster, maybe 10%-15%, on WiFi 5 devices. Biggest benefit is the speed with WiFi 6 devices, which noticeably increased even though my ISP only averages 300Mbs down and 35Mbs up. Battery life of iPhones and iPads is also shockingly better on Wi-Fi 6. The Wi-Fi 6 specifications must be much more efficient because of the amount of use time between battery depletion is drastic. Both my second generation Eero Pro and now Eero Pro 6 have been rock stable and never requiring a reboot. For me, Wi-Fi 6 has been worth the upgrade cost which was offset by an Amazon buyback of my old equipment. Wi-Fi 6e does not seem to be worth much, especially with Wi-Fi 7 knocking on the door. The ISPs in the area do not offer the high-speed to take advantage of WiFi 7 at any reasonable monthly rate.

Happy to help!

I appreciate it!

Thanks for watching!

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Looks like we're just about on the same page!

Happy to help!

Thanks!

If all Eero's in your network are the same model, they're interchangeable. If you have different models (like the 6 and Pro 6) in the same network, you want the one with the better specs to be used as the gateway (plugged into the modem).

Happy to help!

Glad I helped set ya straight!

Pro 6 on sale on Amazon for $229 now

Yeah, Eero finally added a "temporary pause" of the 5GHz, which is super helpful when you're setting up a 2.4-only smart device. So they clearly have the capabilities to do what you want, but they choose not to because they think it'll cause more confusion for the typical customer.

Thank you!

You can set up your VPN via Eero so that all web traffic is secure (if that's how you have it setup now) or you can use the ExpressVPN app on all your devices (if this is your current setup, nothing changes).

Yes, plug it into the router and set up the eero in the app and you should be running in a few minutes.

All older Eero's are backward compatible, yes. Just make sure you have the most powerful Eero as the gateway to get the best results.

correct on all accounts.

Thanks Steve!

definitely wired

500mbps is plenty for almost anyone, especially with the basic tasks like you suggest. When you say "Eero 6+ included," this is just one node? If so, I'd probably buy a second one to pair with it.

Plugged in or wireless? How close are you to the gateway?

Exactly...i get half the speed of my free spectrum router...and basically the exact same range. The app...bs...them teying to sell you on the 100$ per year upgraded app... completely irritating... customer service has me do wierd things like moving my unite to another room... Right next to were my main unit is...how can they know my houses layout...and why would i want my mesh sytem not spread all over my house. As far as im concerned...its just trash. My free spectrum wifi gave my thr full 1 gig...eero wants me to use yheir app...their app is a fraud...all the speedtests ive used aside from their app...give me in the 400s...their app...in the 900s... they're absolutely lying because their hardware isnt as good as the free spectrum router... Id suggest buying more reputable products... the reviews on Amazon have to be fake...since they apparently own or have a stake in eero.

A 1 gig internet isn’t one GIGABYTE it’s a GIGABIT or 125 mega bytes. You will get way faster performance on Ethernet also that’s where they perform speed tests

On a 6 pro system. Have Arris S33 modem and gigabit service from xfinity. Get 950+ Mbps to hardwired devices, and 750-800 Mbps Wi-Fi. Upgraded from cupcake eero Wi-Fi 5. The pro 6 has far superior wired performance (YTTV and Apple 4K are more solid with more consistent throughput). I got the pro 6s more than 1/2 off, so it wasn’t a huge financial commitment. Have not heard good things about 6E stuff, and the eero 7 is $1600-1700 for 3 pack (even if I could afford it, no way I’m paying that)…

@@jonathonsantamont8527 I don't blame you

saying it simple - x’bite = 1/8 of x’byte.

You need a switch.

I agree on the product line. I’m wondering what it’d look like if Amazon hadn’t acquired them.

You won't be maximizing your potential, but that's likely okay, depending on how your house is configured and what you're trying to accomplish.

Yes, it's compatible and a good idea! You'll have to play around with the placement of the new node though. You'll want it close to the garage, but still close enough to the gateway Eero that it gets a full signal.

You definitely don't want to keep the existing router. Eero is a mesh system to replace your existing router.

I'm in the same gooddamn position. Now I'm going to return them tomorrow when they arrive and wait for the next price drop on the Pro 6.

It’s not a bad system by any means, especially if you got a good deal!

@@camsecore Not really considering Pro 6 can be as low as £187 for two units whereas I paid £330 for two Pro 6E

I wasn’t aware of how much you paid. In that scenario, it’s not ideal.

@@MercSLRFan received mine and returned already. Now waiting for price drop

You connect your modem (from Spectrum) to your router (eero).

What do you mean by integrate Google Home? You have a smart speaker and want to connect it to your network and it's not connecting? That doesn't sound like a Eero problem. Google devices will connect with any WiFi network. On the other hand, if you're trying to add a Google WiFi node to your Eero network, that's not possible.

Depends what you're trying to optimize for. If you need true gig speeds, the 7 Max is what you want. If you just want good overall performance, the 6+ or 6 Pro are good calls.

That'll be a nice setup!

What are you trying to accomplish?

Yeah, you can do that.

Why are you trying to do that though? I'm confused. You just have an extra?

Yes!

You can mix and match however you want, but for the best performance, you'll want the most powerful node (Pro 6, in this case) to be the gateway (connected to the modem).

Do you have issues with your 6? It’s a great system. If you just want more speed, I’d go with the Pro 6.

@@camsecore my 6 is fine actually, but I was wanting to add 1gb speeds which the 6 cannot handle. The 6e is on sale so trying to make the best pick.

@@camsecore also would it add more speed to my Apple TV (WiFi 6 model) if I had a satellite pro 6 or 6e and used the Ethernet cable vs WiFi only from the satellite or does that not make a difference since it’s not wired to my gateway router?

@@AutobahnSoCal It can help but probably won't make a huge difference in your case.

I see them new for $200 on Amazon, which is the original price. A lot cheaper on eBay though.

I used his detailed analysis to choose, and the pro 6 does not disappoint. Wireless has gone from 350-450 to 750-800 Mbps, and is more solid. Wired performance is even better…. Was 840 Mbps and now 950+ on an xfinity gigabit plan. We don’t have the enhanced with xfinity in our area (so a gig is a gig with 20-25 Mbps upload - in enhanced areas a gig service is 1200 down and 200 up - hope our area gets a bump soon - c’mon xfinity). Thank you OP for your review!!!

Are you asking if you can wire two eero nodes together to create a wired backhaul? If so, yes. And both ports are auto-sensing.

There’s a ton that wasn’t covered. You can only make the video so long.

You can mix them without issues.

I'd go with three Pro 6's, then add more if you're not happy with the performance.

Yes, an ethernet switch should work fine.

Yes, they are. You'll want the highest-spec model as your gateway.

@Cam // Power Moves thank you I appreciate it

Tough to tell due to there being so many variables. But I’d likely go with Pro 6 if you’re not happy with your current speed.

Wow, that's pretty slow! Eero 6+ should do relatively well for mild internet usage with those speeds. But I don't think that amount of smart home gear will perform, especially the four cameras with the best router in the world.

@@camsecoreI moved the ZTE Modem/router to another location where I’m now getting 40-60Mbps. Will that help? I can scale back to maybe one camera at front of house/driveway. Or maybe just a Ring doorbell.

@@kenthompson3730 Your comment implied that you're paying for 40Mbps. What's the speed rating that you're paying for? Eero could help you maximize that. My advice for smart devices is to start with one camera and to see how your network reacts and add more as needed, assuming your network is running how you'd like it.

It depends based on all the reasons I talk about in this video. But assuming you have mostly 5GHz devices, and you're not running a wired backhaul, 3 x Eero Pro 6 nodes would be preferable.

Yes, you can temporally disable the 5 GHz! And I'm definitely open to trying the Wyze, but I haven't looked into it.

@@camsecore Great! Without that feature, it can be time consuming activating 2.4GHz devices. Another way would be to naming the 2.4, 5, and 6GHz networks separately. Does the eero app allow network splitting?

@@BlaqViper I’ve been there! Painful! Unfortunately, you can’t split the network though.

@@camsecore I suppose temporarily disabling 5GHz will have to do. Thanks.

So you’re asking why an Ethernet port on a secondary node would be useful? Two main reasons. 1. Most hubs for smart home accessories or even some printers need to be plugged into the network to work. 2. A dedicated backhaul where each eero is connected to one another. If you’re asking this question, it’s likely that you’d be fine without extra ports.

The RBK50 is a great system! I tested it three years ago. Orbi's dedicated backhaul is great for maximizing its specs. The Pro 6 is an upgrade on a couple of fronts (WiFI 6 & almost double the throughput), but I'm not convinced that you'd see a ton of difference in real life. Unless you're not satisfied with Orbi's stability, or its software features, I'd probably stick with it for another year. Or if you're chasing pure speed, get one of the newer Orbi systems.

I just switched from the RBK53 it’s minimal speed improvements on eero and definitely not worth the upgrade. Unless you’re looking for the eero secure features. Those work much better than that Orbi . Overall there’s not enough to warrant the money you’re going to spend on a whole new system unless it wasn’t working right. I also feel like the Orbi had more powerful radios and got further out .

You can do it in a pinch and they will work. But optimally, they should be on a table and away from the wall (and any other devices).

I'd probably go with two. Only the gateway node needs an Ethernet connection.

What about them? Both are good options depending on your circumstances.

All Eero nodes are backwards compatible and will work with each other. Just have the 6+ as the gateway node.

Thank you, one more question if I may. If I use a 6+ gateway node and 6 nodes…. Would you get any benefits from 6+

@@greginfla7211 Not the full benefits, but it'll be a better overall system than if you had only Eero 6 nodes.

Smart Queue Management? There's really nothing to do, just enable it in Eero Labs.

@@camsecore not available when in bridge mode

I have extensively actually. They’re OK!

It might be gone for good, but it's still on Eero's site, so we'll have to see if they get more inventory.

Yeah, for sure. You'll have to play around with the alignment because they're not magic, but it'd definitely be better than a solo router.

@camsecore Thank you Sir.

Yeah, you can't use your nighthawk with the eero.

Like literally 18? You can always sell the old models.

Reconfigure the arrangement and/or add an additional node near the cameras.

6+ would be fine!

You just need an ethernet switch.

Thanks for the reply… Like a TP-Link TL-SG105, 5 Port Gigabit Unmanaged Ethernet Switch or a NETGEAR 8-Port Gigabit Ethernet Unmanaged Switch (GS308)? What would be your choice? Or doesn’t it matter?

I've actually never used a switch, but either of those options will get the job done.

@@camsecore thanks for the reply.. I’ll get one and gone it a go 👍🏻

$20 tplink gig switch

Always. Wired speeds are much different than wireless speeds. If plugging into the gateway, you’re guaranteed your full ISP speed.

I agree. A wired backhaul is always preferred! BUT that's not how these systems are pitched to consumers nor how they're primarily used (which is why I don't talk about it a ton). Eero is a system for regular people who want to substantially improve their WiFI without much thought, not for nerds like us to be running cables throughout the house.

@@camsecore what are your thoughts on the brand new Eero WiFi 7?

@@RecklessTurtle Looks like a beast on paper. Two 4x4 radios, four ports (w/ two being 10 Gigabit) addresses all of my concerns with the Pro 6E. Worth the price? That's a whole different discussion. I'll eventually test it, but not in the near future.

I get a lot of these in the comments, but Chance Crawford is new!

I wouldn't "upgrade" if I were you. It's likely your performance will be worse based on your situation. Is there something wrong with your network now?

Sounds like an issue with your ISP.

Personally have multiple models of eero and never a problem. Check your actual connection

Unfortunately, you don't get any control over that with Eero.

Oooooh that sucks!!!

So, you’re saying I’m not able to split my connection into two diff networks of 2.4GHZ and 5GHZ?

No. Both will exists simultaneously as one network. You can't turn one on or off or split them.@@GamingWithAce85

Thank you!

The 6E makes a lot more sense when you can wire them together, but I think you'd be just fine with either!

@@camsecore thanks Cam. Do I want to wire the 2.5 to 2.5 or 1 to 1? Does it matter?

@@ajleslie2 Since you've only got a max of 1 gig, it wouldn't matter.