EEVblog 1378 - NEW Uni-T UT61E+ Multimeter - Still bang-per-buck king?

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Is the new Uni-T UT61E+ Multimeter still the bang-per-buck king the existing UT61-E was? How does it compare? Is the increased cost worth it?
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00:00 - Old UT61E
09:18 - NCV test
10:33 - Probes and Continuity
15:57 - Teardown
25:26 - Specs
26:15 - Conclusion
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@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
Something is happening with the price is this meter, it's jumping around like a jackrabbit. I have a screen capture of USD$88, but now it's USD$73 at 50% off. Maybe they know my video is coming... :->
@m.zohaibusman1298
@m.zohaibusman1298 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, they're changing the prices on their original website?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
@@m.zohaibusman1298 I'm using their official Aliexpress store as the reference. When I shot this video it was USD$88 at something like a 30% discount sale price.
@redtex
@redtex 3 жыл бұрын
The influencer brought order to the market.
@conodigrom
@conodigrom 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, you should put a content advisory at the start of the video. When I heard you being actually happy with a continuity, with a uni-t nonetheless, i spilled coffee all over my desk and fell from my chair!
@ahmedalshalchi
@ahmedalshalchi 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you should know that Chinese don't sell by the value of the product at all and they only know to sell RAW MATERIAL + LABOR and that's it !!...
@liquicitizendirk2147
@liquicitizendirk2147 3 жыл бұрын
A review about the AM870 would be awesome, I like seeing the cheap stuff being reviewed, especially if it ends up being suprisingly good for the price.
@pratap3369
@pratap3369 3 жыл бұрын
Aneng AN870 ?
@stevenspmd
@stevenspmd 3 жыл бұрын
@@pratap3369 Exactly. As long your aware of any limitations and safety fixes .. cheap electronics is the hobbyist's bread and butter
@pratap3369
@pratap3369 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenspmd yup,I got one and it is pretty decent for its price.
@sanour3
@sanour3 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Please make a Aneng AN 870 review. It will be awesome.
@Sentinel-1
@Sentinel-1 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree and support this call. Would be nice if Dave will review this 20000 counts cheapy meter.
@johnyoungquist6540
@johnyoungquist6540 3 жыл бұрын
The lack of input protection resistor indicates these folks know how to use PTC protection devices.. Any resistor value big enough to limit any sort of current would limit the current needed to trigger the PTC devices. It would increase their trigger voltage, increase their trigger time or prevent them from working at all. PTCs often have enough resistance to limit peak current and increase resistance very quickly under overload conditions. A downstream clamp device like a diode, zener, or TVS will have a large peak transient current rating that will hang on for a few milliseconds until the PTC device limits current. I have used PTCs for 40 years in applications like this. Like any component you have to fully understand them to use them properly. The fact that the protection system in both meters differ indicates to me that they re-evaluated the design to make improvements. I notice more PTCs in the new meter which would not go in without cost justification. No doubt they were trying to meet some sort of test requirements and probably did. I'll bet the engineers at UNI-T that design meters for a living under extreme cost constraints don't appreciate your criticism when you really don't understand their design in detail or their test criteria. Let's not criticize a $50 meter by comparing it to a $500 one. I have a wide range of instruments from HP lab instruments that cost thousands to Harbor Freight meters that cost $2. There are plenty of applications where the $2 meter is perfectly adequate and sometimes superior. I admire these low cost instruments for their convenience and the value they offer for the money. These folks face incredible challenges to provide extraordinary instrumentation to the hobbyist for less than a set of HP meter leads. I respect them for taking on that challenge and succeeding I don't know how they do it for the money.
@rael5469
@rael5469 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't know how they do it for the money." Slave labor in China. That's how they undercut American workers.
@smartchip
@smartchip Жыл бұрын
An absolute pleasure to read your critique, done with real brevity and succinctly, From likely an fellow techie, Engineer, sparky etc, very impressive on the english, I toff my hat to you sir, Thank you for taking the time to reply and advancing the conversation,
@bozoc2572
@bozoc2572 Жыл бұрын
@johnyoungquist654 What meter would you recommend for around $100?
@LifeofanElectronicEngineer
@LifeofanElectronicEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Love how you cracked open the fuse to check - this is one thing you'll never see on normal channels reviewing multi-meters
@muppetpaster
@muppetpaster 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes you do
@unclejohn5012
@unclejohn5012 Жыл бұрын
@@muppetpaster Link me to one of these videos.
@KeepOnTesting
@KeepOnTesting 3 жыл бұрын
When I reviewed the *UT61E+* 3 months ago I was blown away by the quality and overall bang for buck. It's not a CHEAP-O persay but it's very hard to do much better at this price point with these features...Great job UNI-T!
@TheGrantourismo
@TheGrantourismo 3 жыл бұрын
CEM and OWON meters are much better in this price range.
@kitecattestecke2303
@kitecattestecke2303 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrantourismo ? What no ! Proof which model do you mean
@electronicengineer
@electronicengineer 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrantourismo Really? Would you please be so kind as to share your knowledge with us in the form of a Model Number and accompanying pricing of these CEM and OWON DMMs that are "much better in this price range"? Inquiring minds would like to know! Thank you in advance. Fred
@danuber5559
@danuber5559 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrantourismo OWON is chinese BS
@michaelcosta7235
@michaelcosta7235 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrantourismo will assume by your lack of expounding that you are just full of it.
@viperidaenz1
@viperidaenz1 3 жыл бұрын
They've also moved from a single chip solution to a meter chip + mcu + display driver. Interestingly, the meter chip is rated for 30,000 count but they've kept the 22,000
@Ryan_Smyth
@Ryan_Smyth Жыл бұрын
I've been using the UT61e+ for around a year or 2 so far and really like it. Maybe not 100% the best value, but still certainly acceptable.
@flymypg
@flymypg 3 жыл бұрын
Would love a shoot-out of all 5-digit meters with the 121GW as the reference, and all others rated relative to it, perhaps with radar plots to make the key differences more visible.
@alaspooryorick9946
@alaspooryorick9946 3 жыл бұрын
Wicked! Sure it's whatever for most people, but the transistor gain test is really useful for stuff I do with old germaniums for particular music stuff. Pretty keen!
@electronicengineer
@electronicengineer 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I Beta match long pair stages in most of the audio amplifiers that I work on and I also think that the built-in HFE/Beta measurement capability is quite useful in a DMM, with the caveat that the measurement is relatively accurate/repeatable, if only for gain matching between cascaded stages. Fred
@gamerpaddy
@gamerpaddy 3 жыл бұрын
did i read 30000counts on that chipset datasheet? tehres a eeprom? time for some modding! this could be the next ut210e
@yushenwang2103
@yushenwang2103 3 жыл бұрын
But the bar graph was designed for 22000 counts, it may lead to issue if modified to 30000 counts as UT61e is likely to select range based on bar graph (raw) ADC
@ashevillemusictools
@ashevillemusictools 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the Review. I have been wondering about this unit. I do wonder if they long term calibration has been fixed. The 61E drifts bad after 1 year. Regarding HFE this is not surprising and I'm sure heavily requested feature. The 61E is a favorite of the audio hobbyist market including the guitar pedal and amplifier market and that market needs HFE for grading older, esp GE transistors so I am sure they were asking for improved HFE features since it is getting harder and harder to find meters with this feature.
@zadekeys2194
@zadekeys2194 3 жыл бұрын
The fuses + backlight (although so weak) + improved continuity makes the upgrade worth it for me. Might wait a few months and see if there is an improved revision of this newer model.
@mati865
@mati865 3 жыл бұрын
AN870 owner here, my unit had screen cover not glued correctly (there was a glue but not heated enough) but heat gun was enough to make it rock solid. Plastic on the probes isn't great but I've seen worse, NCV isn't great either but it does find wiring inside European concrete walls. So far pretty happy with it given 28 USD price (free shipping).
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a pet peeve of mine to see AAA where AA would be more appropriate, which would include just about everything that takes FOUR AAA batteries. I get the impression that AAA batteries must be free in China.
@beefchicken
@beefchicken 3 жыл бұрын
I have a thing that was obviously designed for AA batteries, and the mould was modified after the fact to downsize it to AAA. Here in Canada, AAA cost 50% more than AA, and obviously don’t run as long. It’s infuriating.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 3 жыл бұрын
@@beefchicken Exactly! Ever see those freebie LED flashlights with a battery holder inside to adapt AAA C-cell? ;)
@ElmerFuddGun
@ElmerFuddGun 3 жыл бұрын
@@beefchicken - Yep. AAA are fine for small things that don't use much power but for a DMM that is using >9mA they just aren't going to last long at 8 hours/day. But I guess AAA is at least better than using a 9V.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@beefchicken AAAs are more expensive? That sucks, here in the US they're the same price as AAs and that's bad by itself since you only get half the capacity at best.
@Mingjie_Li
@Mingjie_Li 3 жыл бұрын
@@beefchicken In China, AA and AAA are at the same price. AA is much better for a DMM, I guess someone will soon replace it with a LiPo.
@Beavis26NZ
@Beavis26NZ Жыл бұрын
Just got the 61D+ version, which only has a 6000 count range on it, but it has a temperature feature and the NCV function seems to work a lot better than the 61E+ for some reason. Build quality is surprisingly good as well.
@aquinamedia4508
@aquinamedia4508 Жыл бұрын
I recently got the UT161D of which is the European version (i think) of UT61D+, really good quality stuff. Like it way better than my Fluke 175 at work, what stands out seems to be the fuse being 1000 Volt on the 161D though.
@FISHERMAN33RUS
@FISHERMAN33RUS 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for uni-t vs aneng comparison. Thanks.
@petersage5157
@petersage5157 3 жыл бұрын
Now an analog EE picking up a DMM with a hFE position on the range switch, the first thing he should ask is if the manual mentions the base current for the transistor test. I'm sure it isn't mentioned for the cheap dinky meters that Clive and I have, but for this one it's probably on a page that Dave flipped past in this video. I think Dave might be forgetting that a lot of people still use bipolar transistors in the linear region, and the manufacturing process still spits out transistors within any given batch with hFE all over the shop. For someone whose bread and butter is radio transmitter and audio amplifier repair, a dedicated hFE position on the DMM range switch might be a valuable feature. We know of a certain Canadian KZfaqr who has posted a video on building your own hFE tester and, while he has never explicitly stated this, most likely sorts through bulk transistor purchases and bins them by hFE.
@RobertBolanos
@RobertBolanos 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Peter that eh HFE is a good feature to have especially if you want to match the HFE. I disagree with Jone's comment about the HFE.
@truthful3777
@truthful3777 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you...I repair audio amps and I match my transistor with HFE values. Checking diode test with Fluke 189 is not good enough me...
@hwingerrr5680
@hwingerrr5680 Жыл бұрын
@@truthful3777 a component tester with clip leads is more versatile than the testers that have fixed slits that require the transistor leads to be reformed for testing.
@blaze1461
@blaze1461 21 күн бұрын
@@hwingerrr5680 I usually use breadboard as an adapter. WFM
@lu4enp
@lu4enp 3 жыл бұрын
Love this kind of reviews from you!!! Thanks
@AubreyKeck
@AubreyKeck 3 жыл бұрын
Love my 61E. Its in constant use and always dependable.
@alexgray552
@alexgray552 3 жыл бұрын
The British fuse is on the dedicated current terminal, so doesn't need a 1000V rating, though in reality 1000V would give it no problem - that will be limited by pcb track spacing etc. More importantly a sand-filled ceramic BS1362 fuse will withstand a massive fault current of 6,000A without shattering in the way a glass fuse might.
@berberger4814
@berberger4814 3 жыл бұрын
11:40 imo thats nice, the old one had no auto power off because it was constantly in serial mode
@mumbaiverve2307
@mumbaiverve2307 3 жыл бұрын
I found that the mV measurement input impedance value was much higher than the 10M in a fluke DMM I had. I found that it gave more accurate readings in the mV range for some high mpedance mV measurements compared to the fluke DMM.I dont recollect offhand the fluke model though.maybe someone can clarify if I am right ?
@jkobain
@jkobain 3 жыл бұрын
What a nice price upgrade! Thank for the review.
@jeffm2787
@jeffm2787 3 жыл бұрын
I had to replace the main IC in the 61E after someone tried to measure a car battery and had the leads in the amps range. Blew the fuse and the chip. Worked fine after replacing the main IC and doing a re-cal. Point being the original 61E has terrible input protection. What's the group of resistors near the inputs on the 61E+? It almost looked like they might have used resistors in series for the input protection. Guess I could go look at the hi-rez photos but too lazy right now.
@gino.avanzini
@gino.avanzini 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to watch a comparison with Aneng AN870. I had forgotten about this youtube bug
@St0RM33
@St0RM33 3 жыл бұрын
which bug?
@gino.avanzini
@gino.avanzini 3 жыл бұрын
@@St0RM33 This video was unlisted a few hours before release. Dave added the unlisted video to his multimeter review playlist. If you opened that playlist you could watch the video even though it wasnt publicly released. Dave posted it on twitter, take a look
@St0RM33
@St0RM33 3 жыл бұрын
@@gino.avanzini ohh ok thanks
@Protocol-X
@Protocol-X 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. Do you have any suggestions for an accurate low current clamp meter that won't break the bank?
@kuhrd
@kuhrd 2 жыл бұрын
I will say that these units are pretty decent for the price, especially for a hobbiest or for students just learning in school. Every so often you can even catch these at about the same price as the old one. I am far more comfortable letting kids work with this meter than the harbor freight ones especially for the input protection and accuracy when completeing learning labs. Not going to replace the 121GW or my HP bench meter but makes a great unit to have in all the vehicles as well. I am interested in that ANENG AN870 but I find they make the meters a big too small and cost cut them too much for my taste, but they still make great little meters to have beating around in the tool box.
@ajaymore3009
@ajaymore3009 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, please do a burden voltage test on both models. Also the comparison with AN870 will be nice. Thanks.
@highfidelityinc
@highfidelityinc 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave. I guess I am one of the few people who like the HFE transistor feature. I use it all the time to beta match diff pairs on the input stages of amplifiers. Beats having to break out the curve tracer and connect it to an oscilloscope. Also gives a quick way to figure out where the emitter is on those TO92 transistors with the base in the center pin.
@leocurious9919
@leocurious9919 3 жыл бұрын
But why is it a dedicated position instead of a FN menu?
@_____.__
@_____.__ 3 жыл бұрын
A transistor tester is much better at this.
@highfidelityinc
@highfidelityinc 3 жыл бұрын
Like I said, for beta matching and lead identification, the transistor tester built into to these types of VOMs is perfectly adequate and does a good job at this application -- it has never failed to get a good match or identify leads. And it is quick -- much quicker than pulling out my curve tracer. It is the right tool for this job. Sure, for checking more parameters a full blown transistor tester/curve tracer would give more information but it is not needed nor desirable for the application I specified.
@andymouse
@andymouse 3 жыл бұрын
I was just waiting for it as you clicked the dial round !
@markshaw2207
@markshaw2207 3 жыл бұрын
Threaded insert on the back is for a magnet. Used a lot in the field for affixing to electrical cabinet doors.
@englishrupe01
@englishrupe01 3 жыл бұрын
Right, but only an EE tech hobbyist or electrician would know that. Oh wait.....
@tl1024
@tl1024 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a dumb one, but I always go straight to meter leads with "alligator clamps" support, and I use the probe holders to keep my alligator clamps when I'm not using them. It's a option you would never know you missed until it's not there. But, I usually upgrade the leads instantly on any meter I buy anyway, and support for alligator clamps is a must in my line of work. Good leads & alligator clamps is a must (at least the good leads part). Many people dont understand just how good it is to have a decent set of meter leads.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
As somebody who's had a few el-cheapo meters I certainly understand how frustrating bad probes can be. Regarding built-in alligators that would be nice but I just use regular probes with a pair of alligator to alligator cables. Integral alligators would be better (nothing to short for example) but since most of my meters don't have probe holders I'd be worried about misplacing them.
@rcinfla9017
@rcinfla9017 3 жыл бұрын
I have two UT61E and two AN870. I discovered by accident the good 0.05% accuracy on AN870 degrades quite a bit over temp., At about 90 deg F, 32 degs C the accuracy dropped from 0.05% at 25C to 0.14% at 90F. I like the UT61E internal calibation pot adjustment for DC volts verses firmware eeprom cal storage on AN870. If your working with Li-Ion cells, neither allows 4 decimal readout which require at least 50,000 count meter.
@Marsandrey
@Marsandrey Жыл бұрын
Have you tried to measure with AN870 the voltage of sin wave and increase the frequency from 50Hz to 15kHz keeping same amplitude? :)))))))))))))))))
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you can easily desolder the fuse holders and put them in the other holes available so you can use larger fuses.
@saddle1940
@saddle1940 3 жыл бұрын
My first thought, but you'd have to put some type of insulation under the shaft.
@silviustro1
@silviustro1 3 жыл бұрын
There's actually a UL rated Uni-T UT61E version that's being sold in Germany. A bit more expensive, But certified to be safe for poking around AC. I've been using one for a couple of years now, No wockers.
@TedSchoenling
@TedSchoenling 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, there are tons of us analog audio circuit hobbyist out here who do indeed measure transistor gain for our pedals.. That said we have better tools than a multimeter for that but we do do that
@sopalen
@sopalen 3 жыл бұрын
Nope we do not, we want Vbe NOT hFE (Eurorack). hFE does nothing to us, it's the Base Emitter voltage we want to know (Vbe). aka transistor matching done right.
@MucaroBoricua
@MucaroBoricua 2 жыл бұрын
@@sopalen, you don't know what you are talking about. Go check your text books again.
@sopalen
@sopalen 2 жыл бұрын
@@MucaroBoricua do not need that, i'm designing vco's and filters hfe is useless, vbe is what i need, exponential converter and stuff like that. Hfe is easy, vbe not so much. I do not see the point with hfe unless you need an exact q point.
@sopalen
@sopalen 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that's what you are doing right mjau ;)
@thedanyesful
@thedanyesful 3 жыл бұрын
If you set it to measure AC in peak mode, does it still measure the DC peak of the waveform like the UT61E, or does it measure the RMS peak like one would expect from an RMS meter?
@OneBiOzZ
@OneBiOzZ 3 жыл бұрын
i worry about the rubber on that range switch degrading due to hand oils and high pressure
@RandomHacks
@RandomHacks 3 жыл бұрын
Funny I ordered this 2 days ago, was looking for a good review and here it is. I also have the Aneng AM870 it is ok but not great, very slow range switching, not much input protection as far as I remember and NCV is equally useless.
@carlosgarrido1285
@carlosgarrido1285 3 жыл бұрын
Good review, I'm curious why they cover only one of the PTC?
@flamberge8791
@flamberge8791 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Your last review of multimeters in the US $100 range was some 10 years ago. Has anything changed?
@stevenspmd
@stevenspmd 3 жыл бұрын
Picked up a Fluke 8050A (4.5 digit meter) for $110 delivered CDN works great except needed new fuses. Bloody things aren't the easiest to get or cheap. Had to educate myself on fuses too .. never knew the sand got turned into glass to prevent any kaboom :-) good to know.
@frederickevans4113
@frederickevans4113 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Fluke 79 series III which I bought new back in the late '90s (probably about 23 years ago as I am typing this). I used that thing doing hobby electronics (checking diodes, capacitors, etc.), working on automobiles (engine electrical, stereo upgrades, hunting phantom drains, etc.), and all the way up to commercial office building 480 volt 3-phase electrical systems. Over the decades, I've gotten the leads wrapped up in a car engine's distributor rotor and it has had a few falls. I bought new leads. It has, over the last couple of years, started to fall apart. When the mode buttons below the display fell out and the display itself started losing segments, I decided it was time. It still works, and when the body is pinched in the right spot, the display shows all its segments. Keeping it, at least for now. My lovely wife found an eBay listing for a 179 (successor to the 79-III) for half the new retail price. She offered them about $20 less than the list price and they accepted. It arrived with a blown 11A fuse for the 10A current range. I got a pair of new fuses from Amazon in under a week. Works just fine now. I'll probably have this one for a couple of decades too. Although I no longer work in Property Management, I do have a friend who has an HVAC company and he sometimes calls me for help, especially when his regular assistants are indisposed. I'll still have the occasional brush with 460 to 480 volt commercial building systems, though not as often as I once did. Fluke meters aren't cheap to buy (new). But, if they can put up with what I put mine through and still last roughly two decades, then it is money well spent.
@EngineeringVignettes
@EngineeringVignettes 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Fluke meters too. Have an 8840 and a 8842. Benchtops of course.
@chrisbailey4759
@chrisbailey4759 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely perplexed why they wasted a function position with the Hfe test, and what's the point of the non contact voltage detect if it doesn't work properly, I was all set to buy one for back up purposes, Thanks for the review and thanks for saving me some money 👍
@gilbertexcoffon
@gilbertexcoffon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I bought the 61E+. In your video you don't talk about the sokett accessory for measuring components. With mine it is impossible to plant a component in the 2 small rectangular holes provided for this purpose. absence of contact "clamps" inside. Have you noticed this defect ???
@funcool8884
@funcool8884 2 жыл бұрын
Its stupid china marketing.
@hameedullah6633
@hameedullah6633 2 жыл бұрын
Which one is the best multimeter for everything. ( home, industrial, electricians and for electrical users)
@MazeFrame
@MazeFrame 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Voltcraft MT-52, and the NCV sometimes falsely triggers on any metal object.
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 3 жыл бұрын
The main thing that needed improving about the UT61E was the input protection. Everything else about it was a perfectly competent meter.
@telmobrandao5062
@telmobrandao5062 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a comparison between the Uni-T and the Aneng.
@arnauddurand127
@arnauddurand127 3 жыл бұрын
+1
@Mr.Leeroy
@Mr.Leeroy 3 жыл бұрын
I bet Aneng won't have anything near to the build quality of Uni-T. Cheaper plastics, wonky fit&finish, god knows what in electronic components.. Not that I'm a fan of uni-trend, but I happen to own a multimeter that comes from the same OEM that Aneng badges their products (or at least used to).
@JohnUsp
@JohnUsp 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Leeroy Aneng AN870 is very good.
@GrafElko
@GrafElko 3 жыл бұрын
I have the UT61E and it´s fine for me. As long as it would work or there is not a significant better multimeter at the same price range, I will not replace it. thx for the comparison :)
@miningbruno
@miningbruno 3 жыл бұрын
The greater-than-expected price may be related to shortages and other procurement problems caused by the pandemic. So, would you recommend a pair of these DMMs for a starting, but committed/serious, hobbyist?
@crackwitz
@crackwitz 3 жыл бұрын
since the UT61e (yes, not the + one) rose in price ($60) compared to several years ago (~$45 in 2017), I'm wondering what's out there for around $50... I like fast continuity and the serial output.
@melvynsmith2143
@melvynsmith2143 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, you know what, this meter the 61E+ is being sold here in the UK through Amazon for £139, much more than the more reasonably priced 61E which is just £59, I wish it were just half as much again as the E, I would buy one, but at the price they are being offered in the UK I don't think its worth it, I can get a used but working Fluke for that price. Love your videos BTW and your Ausie sense of humour... Keep up the good work buddy.... Mel - Yorkshire, England
@garethjones7182
@garethjones7182 3 жыл бұрын
I measure transistor gain (matching pairs of AC128s etc.), thought everyone did!
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, when you test meters you check how fast is the ohms continuity buzzer. I would like to know the maximum value of resistance that will still let the continuity buzzer sound. I want it to be quite low. I still have to run proper tests with the BM235 but my use of it has shown it to beep with as much as 170 ohms between the leads. That is way too much.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
What would you think of a dual-tone system with one tone for good continuity and another for a weak connection? Or maybe adjustable thresholds? What do you think a good threshold would be?
@Jose-Ribeiro
@Jose-Ribeiro 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Good work. For an eletrician multimeter, the NCV it's pretty far away of the V AC position. :( Other thing, does the UT61+ (it's an eletrician multimeter) have live wire feature? Why UNI-T (for the eletrician multimeters) don't implement the live wire feature on the V AC position?
@lordmadnes
@lordmadnes 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video as always. But every time a measurement is made you could put a temperature meter to know at what ambient temperature you are making the measurements. Thank you. greetings from Chile Mauricio
@AndrewCislak
@AndrewCislak 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love you to compare with the ANENG AM870!
@AHaensel
@AHaensel 3 жыл бұрын
Does the backlight stay on indefinitely? That alone would be a reason to buy it.
@BradKwfc
@BradKwfc 3 жыл бұрын
Been wanting their mini UTG932 signal gen for a while but at $140USD seems a bit pricey.
@ElmerFuddGun
@ElmerFuddGun 3 жыл бұрын
20A max. / MAX 10 seconds / each 15 minutes... but what about less current? Does the manual have a graph or table to show how long for less current? How long can you use that jack at 10A, 5A, 2A, 1A, etc. Plus it is using only 10A fuse... 8-/
@JohnUsp
@JohnUsp 3 жыл бұрын
What the necessity of verifying the accuracy using the instruments if you can just trust in the manual specs.
@gloomyblackfur399
@gloomyblackfur399 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I was thinking about buying one, but those fuses are a deal breaker for me. I have a Cliff Quicktest that uses them. At least in the US, genuine BS1362 fuses are rare as unicorns. All the ones I've found are counterfeits, with no sand.
@redtails
@redtails 3 жыл бұрын
know your userbase. multimeters are used to test continuity (why does my thing not work?), resistance (I can't read color values), and voltage (is it 5v or 3v3?) most often. Beyond that, mA current (real diagnostics), mains voltage, and _maybe_ capacitance.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying. But don't forget diode test mode, very useful to see if diodes and transistors are shorted, open, or likely functional. For a pocket multimeter that's all you need. Analog multimeters are also good here, I don't know why everyone only talks about digital meters. But on the other hand I can also see the utility of a meter with more features and more accuracy. My thought is to have a basic meter (or several) for everyday work and a more advanced meter kept at the bench if you need a bit more.
@retrocomputeruser
@retrocomputeruser 3 жыл бұрын
A shoot-out with the AN870 would be nice.
@sonic2000gr
@sonic2000gr 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the price will go down soon. I think it's a nice meter. Not very fond of the new red knob in there. But the bigger display and the change from the 9V battery is very nice. I have the original UT61E also and would consider buying this as a second (well, maybe... 5th) meter.
@firewalker6712
@firewalker6712 2 жыл бұрын
Is this good for biasing a tube amp. I don't need it for repairs. I'll take it to a technician for that. I just need to replace poweramp tubes every few years.
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 3 жыл бұрын
Aneng comp - Yes please! Also tell us about the optical usb - what's it actually capable of - can it be set up as slow sample rate data logger?
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can use the USB to datalog the current display reading.
@1Hippo
@1Hippo 3 жыл бұрын
According to the datasheet the new chip is more capable with 30 000 counts and 3 conversions per sec instead of 2. Also it has a fast mode with 30 times/s and 300 counts. Maybe it is possible to unlock it?
@zukjeff
@zukjeff 3 жыл бұрын
Speed of continuity and continuity lead voltage is a MUST for meter comparisons. more of my circuits are now below 3.3 volts. testing components power the whole DUT when the lead voltage is 5 to 7 volts like the fluke !
@Xsses
@Xsses 3 жыл бұрын
UT70A It's very old, but it is RLC + multimeter and because it is very old you can find one for 50$. I've opened it and I believe it has a decent design. Only drawback is a lack of auto-ranging.
@euleausberlin
@euleausberlin 3 жыл бұрын
I certainly would enjoy an Aneng 870 review.
@emersonyepez1326
@emersonyepez1326 3 жыл бұрын
Hola, si uno se equivoca y suministra voltaje AC en la escala de Vdc, que sucede con el equipo se quema la protección??? Vi que suministra voltaje Ac a todas las escalas, menos a la Dc, se la saltó!
@TheGhostfaceKLR
@TheGhostfaceKLR 2 жыл бұрын
Currently here in the US I can't seem to get the BM786 for a reasonable price ($250 on eBay is not reasonable, lol). It seems like the Uni-T UT61E+ is just so-so. What other meters do you recommend in the same price catagory?
@nortonis3565
@nortonis3565 Жыл бұрын
Hello my good man, nice video. I can see it gone 2 years. I am on a look for a new meter, what would you say now is the most bang for the bucks ?
@sairfan06
@sairfan06 3 жыл бұрын
I bought Uni-T 61 in past it did not come with auto power off, i just through it out.
@qlum
@qlum 3 жыл бұрын
Own an Aneng an870 myself, fine for my uses, just don't expect the ncv to actually be a useful feature on that one.
@WooShell
@WooShell 3 жыл бұрын
NCV isn't a useful feature on any meter. Complete waste of space.
@R2AUK
@R2AUK 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how inexpensive DMMs like UT61E are accurate in terms of measuring RMS current. Let's say I have a class C/D/E RF power amplifier with very irregular DC+AC current consumption and I would like to estimate its efficiency. The problem here is that even a slight difference, say 60% for class C vs 55% for class AB is significant. Do I need something like Fluke 115 or a more expensive model for this or UT61E is good enough?
@R2AUK
@R2AUK 3 жыл бұрын
After thinking a little I realized that DMMs are designed for AC measurements in kHz range while an HF RF amplifier's current consumption changes in 3-30 MHz range. Apparently, this should be done with an oscilloscope and a low-value shunt resistor.
@alejandroperez5368
@alejandroperez5368 2 жыл бұрын
@@R2AUK Thank you for the information, most people don't come back to post their findings.
@monkfoobar
@monkfoobar 3 жыл бұрын
14:35 what’s the burden voltage for the current measurement?
@caseyrevoir
@caseyrevoir 3 жыл бұрын
00:11:47 The delay/light is because if the resistance is below 300 ohm the light will illuminate green, if over 300 the light is red.
@juancarlossandoval5628
@juancarlossandoval5628 3 жыл бұрын
Got this meter,, malfunction on its 2nd month,, shorted lest leads shows 2 ohms,, so I do the IPA bath. Now open leads show 6meg, diode test and buzzer are also affected,, shorted test leads shows 38 ohms,, ncv beeps non stop,, never abuse the meter,,, just sitting on my desk no batt leaks, leads are ok. Tested the front end, no issues,, it seems cal just drifted so soon.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes!
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog , Exactly... it is Chinese junk, with no repair and no replacement either.
@treadmillrepair754
@treadmillrepair754 3 жыл бұрын
Continuity Beep of my Fluke 27 fail after 40 years of total abuse. All the meters are the same. Hehehehehe.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 3 жыл бұрын
@@treadmillrepair754 , HORRID! ONLY 40 years! Ha ha ha ha! Good one!
@friede88
@friede88 2 жыл бұрын
i was looking for this multimeter here in Germany. It turns out that they use another name scheme over here: ut161 d/b/e. I compared the instructions and they appear to be the same except different (regional?) certificates.
@chrisaz7567
@chrisaz7567 2 жыл бұрын
The fuses are also different. According to the manual, the UT161 uses F1:6x32mm(600mA/1000V) and F2: 10x38mm(11A/1000V) which are larger than the UT61, where both are 6x25mm 240V fuses.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 3 жыл бұрын
My decision was the AN870 is better bang for buck, getting up around 100USD one may as well make the jump to the BM235 or something else with proper safety features.
@excitedbox5705
@excitedbox5705 3 жыл бұрын
I think Aneng is still the most bang for buck. Their new 9002 has Bluetooth and data retention for $22 but sadly only 6k counts but I think there is 1 with 10k. Their Q1 is still only $27 though. Their Bench meter is $70 has bluetooth, a radio, Alarm clock 19k counts and better precision than this one. I saw something about multi function calibration as well but the description didn't mention it.
@elkingmohamed1993
@elkingmohamed1993 10 ай бұрын
Hello, Would you mind taking a minute to answer my question? I am writing to you to seek your advice on the purchase of a multimeter for measuring small values on the order of millivolts and microamps. I am considering two models: the UT61B+ with a 6000 display count and the UT61E+ with a 22000 display count. I understand that the display count refers to the maximum number of digits that can be displayed on the multimeter's screen. However, I am still unsure of the practical difference between the two models. Would you be able to provide me with some guidance? Thank you for your time and consideration.
@kamikazekk-df4vz
@kamikazekk-df4vz 3 жыл бұрын
My boss bought one of this new DMM uni-t models, the 17B pro and I admit not bad at all. It's accurate and full of features, for 80 bucks with shipping included not bad.
@Brian-uq6jm
@Brian-uq6jm 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 17b pro on my repair bench to use when my hands are covered with lead and disgusting flux. Yeah I use it instead of my better meters cuz i can't be bothered cleaning it every time. It has been months and I have to say, it's great!
@Igor_user
@Igor_user Жыл бұрын
You can measure a current of about 150-200 mA with a UT61E+ multimeter in milliAmp mode, take a reading and, without changing the current, switch the limit to Ampere mode (20 A) and also take a reading. Mine shows 170 mA and 0.182 A. Will there be such differences on yours or not? Is it normal for readings to differ?
@mirosawlewandowski7865
@mirosawlewandowski7865 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely no competition at this price! It sets new trends in the construction of meters for service and electronics hobbyists.
@TheFelix63
@TheFelix63 9 ай бұрын
How useful is a 20000 Counts if the last digits fluctuate or are not precise, compared to one with fewer digits, in the same price range
@deterdamel7380
@deterdamel7380 3 жыл бұрын
The European version of UT61E was equipped with MOVs and was independently tested (GS/Tüv).
@MedoFortyTwo
@MedoFortyTwo 3 жыл бұрын
The European version also only claims CAT II 600V, CAT III 300V, and I think I read that it also has better fuses. Funny enough, they messed up the TÜV printing on it even though it's legit. If you look very carefully it says TÜV Rheinland, ID: 0000000002, which must be a placeholder. I'm happy with the accuracy as well. At the Maker Faire Hannover I got to check it with a Fluke 5700A Calibrator. At 200mV, 2V, 20V and 20mA (positive and negative) it was at most five counts off (0.025%). 200µA was a bit worse at 18 counts (0.1%), but still way better than the advertised 0.1%+5 counts for voltage and 0.5%+10 counts for small currents.
@sanityd1
@sanityd1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, penny just dropped on what the letter at the end stands for. I have an old one with C at the end, "mystery" solved.
@MedoFortyTwo
@MedoFortyTwo 3 жыл бұрын
@@sanityd1 no, we're talking about two different versions of the UT61E. The UT61C is a different model altogether, with fewer counts on the display etc.
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 Жыл бұрын
I just checked, and it's now $100 US on Amazon.
@mrpetit2
@mrpetit2 3 жыл бұрын
The board says that the components for the communication port are both leds. If thats true it cant be 2 way communication of course. It would be nice to see what the software can do though. Too bad that it got more expensive.
@tomcruiser2407
@tomcruiser2407 9 ай бұрын
Great comparison, although I didn't understand everything because I speak Swiss German, I still understood a lot haha. And yes, it's a shame that the temperature measurement was omitted. Nevertheless, I bought, well, the plus model and, as an amateur radio operator, I am extremely satisfied with it. Price performance is excellent and what is also impressive is the extremely fast continuity tester when troubleshooting. Your video helped me decide, thank you very much. Greetings from the Bernese Oberland Thomas
@TignMeg
@TignMeg 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Dave Dave....Was there not a temperature thermocouple plug point on that adapter for hFE?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like it, but it doesn't have the feature. They probably reuse this on another model.
@todayonthebench
@todayonthebench 3 жыл бұрын
The "No contact voltage sensing" seems a bit like a gimmick, even when well implemented. (I much prefer using the traditional pen type, since poking a whole multimeter into an electrical cabinet seems down right silly...) The lack of temperature measurement is a bit of a bummer, but I can live without it to be fair. Though, I don't know why Dave needs to hate the transistor gain measurement as hard as he does... I have found transistor gain measurements actually useful a fair few time. (Though, usually I want a known base/collector current, and typically graph it a bit as well. Ie, a straight up "beta" is a bit lack luster. But I don't discredit a whole meter just because it has the feature.....)
@hwingerrr5680
@hwingerrr5680 Жыл бұрын
All NCV implementations I've seen in DMM units are fairly unuseful not only because of the bulk but also because they're so ambiguous. That's more worthy of the gimmick gripe because I doubt anyone would actually use and rely on that ncv feature when the pen type is so much better. With a good one, it can easily determine the hot side of a lamp cord, which isn't possible with the DMM version.
@NICK-uy3nl
@NICK-uy3nl 3 жыл бұрын
For me, the major difference is the mechanical design and packaging of the new meter. It is much more robust as far as teat lead terminals, rotary selector tracks and case and internal shielding design. They finally wised up and hired a mechanical product design engineer to properly package the product. People don't realize mechanical packaging of a product is as important as the electronic specs. Nobody likes a chintzy product. The Aneng might be a good meter but it's nowhere near as well-built as the UT61E+, not even close.
@someone2506
@someone2506 2 жыл бұрын
Silly (probably) question - why a 10A fuse when it supposed to read
@HamedAdefuwa
@HamedAdefuwa 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Dave's reaction about the hfe was hilarious.
@ashevillemusictools
@ashevillemusictools 3 жыл бұрын
Yep and shows he doesn't understand the audio market, their love of this meter and how they grade GE transistors.
@arsenicjones9125
@arsenicjones9125 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashevillemusictools it’s doubtful that this meter is all that accurate and HFE w/o leakage info in a GE audio circuit is pretty useless
@m.zohaibusman1298
@m.zohaibusman1298 3 жыл бұрын
Yooo, ur the guy I've been getting ads about
@sergsimakovich1444
@sergsimakovich1444 3 жыл бұрын
my reaction was 100% same :)
@ashevillemusictools
@ashevillemusictools 3 жыл бұрын
@@arsenicjones9125 fair enough. Maybe they put it in knowing people wanted it but didn't do good enough. Plenty of half baked not fully properly implemented features in this meter as Dave's review clearly shows.
@akkudakkupl
@akkudakkupl 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the hFE tester here seems to be of some better type, maybe the audio crowd can benefit? They seem to need matched pairs
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech 2 жыл бұрын
I've never used temp on any of my meters. Being a hobbyist the addition of a backlight and 22000 counts makes it great for measuring small values. I can see why it's not professional grade but you get what you pay for
@alejandroperez5368
@alejandroperez5368 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Why the hell would you need to measure temperature with that probe? To see at which temperature water boils? Jeez.
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroperez5368 I don't know if you're being sarcastic or genuine hahaha. I agree the hfe would be better replaced by a temp probe. I'd never use that and I did it would be one one of those little arduino based ziff socket testers we all have laying around somewhere lol
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video.
@chrispletcher6535
@chrispletcher6535 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I just don't think there's USD 75ish worth of meter (current price although like Dave I have seen it swing) in it. Welectron is asking USD 120 shipped for a Brymen 257s or USD 110 for a BM235 which meets all the compliance for sure and much fewer bugs. I think the gotcha is the RS232, not included in the Brymen (ugh). I could see myself getting a 61E for a cheap data logging to USB solution or maybe casual use, but the price point is still a tad high. Thanks for opening this up for us Dave.
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