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EEVblog 1503 - Rigol HDO4000 12bit Oscilloscope TEARDOWN

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Teardown of the new Rigol HDO4000 12bit ultra low noise oscilloscope
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@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
Bird is a puffin. Black and white with a coloured beak, and not common in Australia outside of a zoo. And fast flying so a fast colour device. 50R termination going to be well cooked if you put more than 2V into it, going to say you will have a call for inputs to have a warning on that mode, or you will be cooking input resistors within a week if you have anything over naff all input power.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
Yes, I expect many fried 50ohm inputs. Maybe they couldn't get the bandwidth (and response shape) they wanted with the bigger part.
@LutzSchafer
@LutzSchafer Жыл бұрын
Puffin is common on the east coast of Canada especially Gaspe Quebec.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog I can see the one accessory being sold will be a 50R inline termination that can handle 5W, probably with 6dB attenuation or more, so that you can actually use the 50R input. Otherwise a warning when selecting 50R that your input range is limited to 1V only. Looks like the team was the one that did the spectrum analysers.
@fredknox2781
@fredknox2781 Жыл бұрын
A puffin might be better than a weird egg-laying poisonous mammal.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Reported yet another impersonator......
@rileywolfe1384
@rileywolfe1384 Жыл бұрын
NGL something about Dave's accent plus all the enthusiasm always manages to brighten up a day regardless of whatever hes talking about lmao
@czarodzi9967
@czarodzi9967 Жыл бұрын
No whackers
@nneeerrrd
@nneeerrrd Жыл бұрын
His SNR is like -42 dB
@davkdavk
@davkdavk Жыл бұрын
Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner!!
@button-puncher
@button-puncher Жыл бұрын
True plus the Aussie sayings. Give it a Squizz...LOL.
@abitofabitofabit4404
@abitofabitofabit4404 Жыл бұрын
The RK3399's big value proposition is probably that x4 PCI-Express port, which makes for a very convenient way to talk to logic on FPGAs. They might even map the waveform store RAM directly into the SoC's address space.
@aDaWaN
@aDaWaN Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know, the interface between the SoC and FPGA was one of the things I was wondering about, PCIe is a really nice fit for this application indeed!
@BrianG61UK
@BrianG61UK Жыл бұрын
It's at the heart of a few single board computers too.
@Guineh76
@Guineh76 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for continuing to make outstanding content! Love the tear downs!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated.
@BenjaminEggerstedt
@BenjaminEggerstedt Жыл бұрын
Your excitement for technology makes this even more fun to watch :)
@horiamorariu
@horiamorariu Жыл бұрын
Dave, you make my day. The Sharp Stereo radio-cassette player - I had this model (or very look-like) back in 1984, in Deva, Romania. An yes, as always, a great educational video. Live Long and Prosper. Cheers!
@Seiskid
@Seiskid Жыл бұрын
I never even saw it till you pointed it out. Way cool boombox. Dave should do a tear down on it soon.
@horiamorariu
@horiamorariu Жыл бұрын
@@Seiskid Uh... hopefully not doing tear-down on that Sharp Stereo 😁 Those "history" pieces should remain as they are.
@SomeTechGuy666
@SomeTechGuy666 Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Rigol. I can't wait to see the HDO1000 series.
@Cmensailing
@Cmensailing Жыл бұрын
You are a true legend Dave only you do there great teardowns! Way to go Mcgyver
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the heatsinking could be more about minimising temperature for stability than having to dissipate a lot of heat
@ikocheratcr
@ikocheratcr Жыл бұрын
Maybe even have all inputs at the same temp, to reduce differences between the inputs on the same signal.
@aDaWaN
@aDaWaN Жыл бұрын
I also like the way they integrated heatsinking, temperature equalization and shielding into a single die-cast part.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@aDaWaN Makes sense, after all a single spin cast mould that integrates it all is going to be cheaper in the assembly line, and you can get great dimensional stability in that single part as well so minimal machining work to get good results. You need a heat sink, so makes sense to have a single part then for the entire range, and it definitely cuts the cost down in assembly. Spin cast, run through a single CNC mill to level the critical paths, and drill the holes and tap them, and be done. One fixturing clamp only needed, and perhaps 3 minutes of machining time total. 400 per machine per day is probably faster than the rest of the production line.
@andyjdhurley
@andyjdhurley Жыл бұрын
Puffin are a kids book publisher in the UK (part of Penguin books) so that bird outline is very familiar here in the old dart.
@lmwlmw4468
@lmwlmw4468 Жыл бұрын
That bird is an Atlantic Puffin, aka Sea Parrot, and their colorful beaks are beautiful......great teardown.
@Petertronic
@Petertronic Жыл бұрын
That mouse insisting on drawing polygons was quite funny. Nice teardown!
@mUbase
@mUbase Жыл бұрын
Marvellous teardown ! Not a patch on my Scopex 14-d 15Mhz scope but... ( I'm in tears, I want a proper scope !!! )
@martinkuliza
@martinkuliza Жыл бұрын
A Scopex is a proper scope, Granted not a DSO but still i have 3 CRO's and i still use them
@jacobamador7989
@jacobamador7989 Жыл бұрын
The video we've all been waiting for!
@Scrogan
@Scrogan Жыл бұрын
Looked at using a 4053 for a sample+hold circuit once. The worst-case ratio between on-current and off-current wasn’t extreme enough. Ended up making a large spreadsheet, and settled on using a DG444.
@altimmons
@altimmons Жыл бұрын
Rockchip 3399 is commonly used for android boards. I think Linux will run on a wide range due to the large community but I always see the rockchip 3399 and the older 3288 on android devices- it’s probably because there is well validated software to run on it. The two buttons populated are recover and reset and I always see them populated regardless of if it’s intended to be worked on. Somehow it must be required. I’m working on a 3288 now trying to hack an old advertising display with touch screen on it. It’s supposed be to be “pretty powerful” for android because it’s also found commonly in Chromebooks
@MrBrianms
@MrBrianms Жыл бұрын
It's a Puffin. A Puffin is a seabird seen around the forth river estuary islands in Scotland.
@Chilangosta
@Chilangosta Жыл бұрын
Very clean construction; interesting choice to put the R&D into the front end with a bespoke chip and ADC, and shell out for the Artix7. Crazy amount of heat and noise, but I think a lot of people will find the trade-off acceptable! Would be super cool to see somebody unify the front end & ADC; you'd end up with a very modular front end that you could feed into an FPGA and go from there. I can imagine a lot of possibilities for that combo.
@nightshadelenar
@nightshadelenar Жыл бұрын
an interesting note with the closer look around 24:25. the micron memory there (and likely for the SoC as well) is 4Gb/512MB x16 width DDR3L 1866MT/s memory, so there is 2GB total RAM there, which makes sense with the ongoings under the hood. the 3399 ARM SoC has a PCIe 3.0x4 link which also makes it easier for coms to the FPGA with low latency, as a few people in the comments here have mentioned. this is fitting given it's 2Gs/s would be too much for serial unlike lower sample rate and bandwidth scopes.
@aetch77
@aetch77 Жыл бұрын
"software upgradeable" sounds like a really polite way of saying software gimped.
@bakagaijin7452
@bakagaijin7452 Жыл бұрын
excited for hdo1000 with12bit at $999. would be very nice to check for whether it actually has that 50 ohm input not mention in datasheets but stated in ui and the front panel.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
No 50ohm input or active probe inputs.
@bakagaijin7452
@bakagaijin7452 Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Oddly enough hdo1000 user manual 5.4 says: When the input impedance is set to "50 Ω", the channel coupling is set to DC coupling by force. Am confused.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@bakagaijin7452 Probably used with external 50R terminator, and software sets the input to DC coupled when you select the 50R termination for the display unit.
@udhayakumara4033
@udhayakumara4033 Жыл бұрын
If you have chance, please do review of R&S MXO 4 12bit oscope
@AbdelmoumenBacetti
@AbdelmoumenBacetti Жыл бұрын
2 diff pairs for the quadrature IQ outputs, 1 pair for each.
@managementrights6037
@managementrights6037 Жыл бұрын
I think the large spanned heatsink is to cool the chips and keep all of the chips running at the same temperature, running a virtual differential low noise system..with the wafer fabrication of the ASICS, maybe
@Psi117
@Psi117 Жыл бұрын
Super! Hope you will also get new R&S MXO 4. James (baldengineer) was quite speedy on teardown.
@kalhana1
@kalhana1 Жыл бұрын
MGTAVCC is for the multi-gigibit transceivers in Artix 7.
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles Жыл бұрын
The „when I was a boy“ sentence got me thinking. Why not make a comparison of scope front ends of today, 10 years ago, 20 years ago and so on
@KeritechElectronics
@KeritechElectronics Жыл бұрын
Not a Tek 2 but still a very nicely built scope. I like the shielding and the way the PCB is designed. Just look at all the gold plating and these smoothly rounded traces, it's a thing of beauty and a joy for ever, just like Tektronix did in the '60s. Good job, Rigol engineers! Now, on to Shahriar's teardown... wonder if he'll do one too, haha!
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
It's way better than the universally panned Tek series 2.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
@@NeverTalkToCops1 It's hardly "universally panned". By who? It's a nice scope, it's just not great bang-per-buck. But bang-per-buck is not Tek's domain.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Tek is more the buck per bang, and being at the bleeding edge, for the time. Then stay as the solid reference for the following 3 decades, to use as a reference device for all who use them.
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Panned by MANY commenters to your video. How casually you dismiss the "bang for buck" factor. "... Not great bang per buck"? Of course, the Tek 2 series is horrible bang for buck. Who buys an 8 bit scope when this 12 bit Rigol scope is available at less bucks? Even Rhode & Schwarz will have sales of their 10 bit RTB 2004 scopes suffer because of these 12 bit Rigol offerings.
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
@@SeanBZA IF your criteria depends on gear being a viable "reference device" for 3 decades, then have at it. How is the Tek series 2 "bleeding edge" at 8 bit resolution a better value than these Rigol 12 bit offerings.
@richb419
@richb419 11 ай бұрын
It would be nice to have some intake air filters. this series of Rigol scope looks like a keeper
@rialtho_the_magnificent
@rialtho_the_magnificent Жыл бұрын
these warranty void stickers ... are they still legal? I believe they have been 'outlawed' , at least here in Europe, if I'm not mistaken.
@user-en4vo4qp9h
@user-en4vo4qp9h Жыл бұрын
Please leave a review about "Rigol DP900" series
@tcpnetworks
@tcpnetworks Жыл бұрын
I wonder why they keep putting those 'warranty void' stickers on things... they aren't enforceable.
@NICK-uy3nl
@NICK-uy3nl Жыл бұрын
With Android OS it should be fairly easy to connect this scope to the internet. Android platform includes the HttpsURLConnection client, turning the scope into a web browser and a web server. More and more test equipment are being designed for World Wide Web connectivity
@JCGver
@JCGver Жыл бұрын
That leaves us with 1 question: Why would you want to connect your scope to the internet?
@NICK-uy3nl
@NICK-uy3nl Жыл бұрын
@@JCGver 1 Remote users on the internet can see exactly what you are seeing during a test by logging into the scope with secure username and a password 2 Email test results such as screenshots or JPEG video of the test to others on the web.3 Download new 'app' to change scope functions. 4 Save test results to the CLOUD for future analysis and viewing. you can store unlimited amount of data to the cloud 5 Using an embedded web server, a remote operator can run the scope from anywhere on the planet, 6 Factory diagnostics in case of failure. 7 Factory calibration and firmware upgrade 8 You can download third-party apps for various analysis, you don't have to depend on Rigol for their limited analytical library... and many more applications. I hope that gives you an idea of why test equipment are getting connected to the World Wide Web
@NICK-uy3nl
@NICK-uy3nl Жыл бұрын
@@nicmate2543 - Wake up! it's no dream. It's reality. Most modern electronic equipment are internet connected.
@SomeTechGuy666
@SomeTechGuy666 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting that they are using Linux on the Rockchip and there is a JTAG, 4 pin port and 2 switches. That thing is probably easily hackable. I'll bet you can ssh into the OS from the 4 pin port.
@nathanweasley4580
@nathanweasley4580 Жыл бұрын
try username root and psw rigol XD
@unclebach3495
@unclebach3495 Жыл бұрын
foresee is sort of a sibling of lexar, both owned by longsys
@omniyambot9876
@omniyambot9876 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand a thing I just love watching your oscilloscope teardowns... How do I learn Dave?
@martinkuliza
@martinkuliza Жыл бұрын
well.... 1. You learn by watching and paying attention (Your brain has a funny way of putting things together even if you don't immediately understand it) 2. You can download his videos 3. if you need to ask a shit load of questions i'm happy to jump on zoom with you or whatever to explain a few things to you that's how you learn by being curious pulling shit apart and asking questions
@omniyambot9876
@omniyambot9876 Жыл бұрын
@@martinkuliza that's very very kind loool thank you. I'm not beginner tho, currently in BS ECE, been doing electronics hobby since 4 yrs old. I know the context of what dave is saying. I'm just exaggerating because I really do feel I'm still absolutely stupid compared to people like you who are highly knowledgeable and experienced with this field. I hope I could learn more forever. Love electronics.
@martinkuliza
@martinkuliza Жыл бұрын
@@omniyambot9876 LOL, ok then 1. RE "been doing electronics hobby since 4 yrs old." How cool is that... Me too, from 4 years old haha 2. Well then if your'e not a beginner you'll pick it up, My advise is, Just keep watching the videos over and over , if you watch it enough and don't focus too hard, it'll sink it and your brain will make sense of it Ultimately if you love electronics you don't even need to worry because it'll happen naturally , Just watch the videos be cool
@omniyambot9876
@omniyambot9876 Жыл бұрын
@@martinkuliza yeah you're absolutely right. Just enjoying these videos, I think I naturally pick up the ideas as time goes by..
@martinkuliza
@martinkuliza Жыл бұрын
@@omniyambot9876 Indeed, I remember when i was young pulled apart a Stereo and looking inside at the mainboard and marvelling at the wonders of the PCB and then looking at the SMD's and wondering What are they ? Will i ever understand those things and what they do ? and then thinking, I can never understand this , i mean you need to be a genius to figure this shit out and you know what mate, at the age of 49 i can tell you this DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT Just keep being curious, Keep learning and Keep pulling shit apart, and sooner or later your brain will give you the answer Truth is , at one point or another we are all geniuses I get called a genius all the time, I'm not a genius , I just pay attention to shit and just as you are now marvelling at me and dave and thinking that our knowledge surpasses your own ONE DAY YOU WILL LEARN THIS SHIT AND SOMEONE WILL MARVEL AT YOU AS BEING A GENIUS AND HOW YOUR KNOWLEDGE SURPASSES THEIR OWN and they will wonder "How can i ever be as smart as Omni Yambot" See mate... it's all relative We are not geniuses, it's just that people that have less knowledge than us see us and interpret THE DIFFERENCE IN KNOWLEDGE as "Genius" LOL The dictionary defines it as EXCEPTIONAL INTELLECTUAL OR CREATIVE POWER but what we have here is not EXCEPTIONAL KNOWLEDGE it's just DIFFERENCE IN LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE based on age and experience therefore..... YOU TOO WILL ONE DAY BE A GENIUS or... at least "Seem to be" LOL don't worry about it mate, I'll happen, just do what you're doing and you'll get it
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
12:00 "Just a differential pair output buggering off there." That's the second usage of "buggering off" differential pairs used by Daiyve. Is the destination of the "buggering off pairs" the flying albatross on the PCB? Place your bets.
@nightshadelenar
@nightshadelenar Жыл бұрын
likely SAMSUNG or TSMC 7nm process given the size, and also the power it is outputting. likely a 10w part.
@WaynesWorld999
@WaynesWorld999 Жыл бұрын
I seriously question if the 'Warranty void if removed' sticker is legal in Australia. I don't think it is in the US.
@JCGver
@JCGver Жыл бұрын
If it is, you can buy the exact stickers on Aliexpress.
@martinkuliza
@martinkuliza Жыл бұрын
IT IS Legal in Australia they can legally refuse your warranty if the sticker is violated and i'll tell you how i know this Many moons ago when i bought my DS2000A Series Rigol scope as we all did, i did my upgrade to 300MHz Anyway, i went into Emona Instruments at one point and they figured they'd come out with the question and face me with it well... Little did they realize , i handle pressure extremely well and i don't give 2 fucks about what they think In a nutshell, they asked "so... you did the upgrade illegally did you ?" i said to them, "No, I didn't do anything illegal, but i did do the upgrade" The scope is mine i can do what i want with it they asked "so you removed the warranty sticker did you " I said "well.... You can see the warranty sticker is intact and un damaged and not violated" they went on about a speech regarding "well, we know you took it off" and i said "well, regardless of what you think you know the sticker acts as evidence of tampering and as you can see the sticker has not been violated and is still intact" THEY HONOURED THE WARRANTY so yes, it's legal But... Had i said directly "Yes, i removed the sticker" this would have been enough to void the warranty instead, i said "well. You can see it's still intact" In Australia there is a big difference there , legally speaking. and ... LOL.. He actually tried to debate with me as to whether i was doing something wrong. and i said, Mate, it's my scope, i can throw it in the bin, i can piss on it if i want , i can pull it apart and take the components out, it's my scope When he said, but it's our software i said... "well, You shouldn't have been so stupid so as to lock it via software, and you should have been smart enough to know who you are selling to and what the product is, what did you expect us to do , We are technical people, as soon as we get something home, we open it and check it out, did you honestly expect no one to interrogate the firmware ? so.. since you were banking on no one finding out and we did, i suppose you'll learn for next time won't you , as for now, you gotta cop it on the chin" he said, when you bring in your scope for service we'll just roll back the update to 70MHz and i said "actually , no you won't , what you will do is LEAVE THE SCOPE IN A SIMILAR CONDITION AND STATE TO WHICH I BROUGHT IT TO YOU IN" they had no way out of this , they just had to grin and bear it Most people kept quiet about the upgrade, i didn't give a fuck
@uni-byte
@uni-byte Жыл бұрын
Puffin. The bird..
@coryengel
@coryengel Жыл бұрын
Aren’t they flightless like penguins? If so that might make it swimming rather than flying.
@uni-byte
@uni-byte Жыл бұрын
@@coryengel No, they fly. Very fast too - over 85 KPH.
@henninghoefer
@henninghoefer Жыл бұрын
There's even a third, nondescript, but populated button above the Rockchip. 👀
@MrDoneboy
@MrDoneboy Жыл бұрын
"Floating Dave Head"...LMAO!
@theatheisthammer
@theatheisthammer Жыл бұрын
Should have used a hairdryer on that security warrenty tab😂😂😂
@EEVblog
@EEVblog Жыл бұрын
Care factor ZERO!
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog They sent it knowing it was doomed to be dissected, so know the sticker is going to be sacrificed. They gave the strongest one they had though.
Жыл бұрын
Somehow this looks a bit like out of the Cyberpunk 2077 game. I like the look.
@codebeat4192
@codebeat4192 Жыл бұрын
0:38 On top, that is a nice Sharp boombox! Modelnumber?
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff Жыл бұрын
19:16 second front-end output could be for triggering
@Wolfhound.
@Wolfhound. Жыл бұрын
Battery pack is lithium ion and can last up to 4 hrs
@hinz1
@hinz1 Ай бұрын
Seems FPGA memory bandwidth limited then, since 2x ADC and only 4GS/s in single channel mode. With dual ADC, 1ADC for 2 channels, 4GS/s should be possible in 2Channel mode, but FPGA interface/memory bandwidth likely sucks too much, for that ;-/
@agustincurcio86
@agustincurcio86 Жыл бұрын
I wander what's that component sitting between the main board cutout and the RJ-45 jack. Seems pretty isolated.
@BassheadMusicConnoisseur
@BassheadMusicConnoisseur Жыл бұрын
I would be glad if you could digest a DSP car amplifier circuitry
@heinzbremer5326
@heinzbremer5326 Жыл бұрын
this bird ist a puffin
@ajingolk7716
@ajingolk7716 2 ай бұрын
Each ADC four inputs!!!
@RicardoOliveiraRGB
@RicardoOliveiraRGB Жыл бұрын
Why does it need Artix7 and a processor? Couldn't one of then do all the job?
@hinz1
@hinz1 Ай бұрын
Well, Artix7 has to do fast ADC interface, fast memory, advanced triggering... All that stuff eats resources quickly and hardcore is faster and way cheaper than bodging a softcore into FPGA Do FPGA stuff in FPGA and CPU stuff in dedicated CPU.
@user-qj4qw4iy2x
@user-qj4qw4iy2x Жыл бұрын
不知道是不是打磨后重新刻的丝印
@TheTruthSentMe
@TheTruthSentMe Жыл бұрын
Why are there two differential pairs per front end channel?
@elpetacaalvarez3828
@elpetacaalvarez3828 Жыл бұрын
We where in, but not like flynn...
@Shrek_Holmes
@Shrek_Holmes Жыл бұрын
the lowest end HDO1000 Model will be 699. thats not bad,
@nneeerrrd
@nneeerrrd Жыл бұрын
Dude, your SNR is like -42 dB
@FrankHarwald
@FrankHarwald Жыл бұрын
What? These things are using google's Android OS nowadays? Gee, guess I'm getting old
@MrNoNamedIdiot
@MrNoNamedIdiot Жыл бұрын
when your osci is vulnerable to spectre....
@Nik930714
@Nik930714 Жыл бұрын
24:25 is that QR code made with vias?
@henninghoefer
@henninghoefer Жыл бұрын
It says "QR code" on the silkscreen, but it's actually a Datamatrix code. It reads "ZRSPYHDO12209050003" w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶r̶i̶a̶l̶. (2022-09-05? Third one off the line?) EDIT: My assumption above is wrong. The serial can be seen at 0:28 and is "HDO4A243700085"
@Nik930714
@Nik930714 Жыл бұрын
@@henninghoefer I don't know my 2D codes well enough to know the difference. I was just surprised by the way it was made, with vias.
@hinz1
@hinz1 Жыл бұрын
Maybe in a few years, fully hacked for cheap on ebay....
@stoptheirlies
@stoptheirlies Жыл бұрын
I'm confused Dave, you keep saying 800mhz scope, but it says 200mhz on the case?
@henninghoefer
@henninghoefer Жыл бұрын
That's because the hardware is an 800MHz scope, only the firmware limits it to 200MHz. You can buy a license code from Rigol and unlock the higher bandwidths.
@Bobby-fj8mk
@Bobby-fj8mk Жыл бұрын
It's using custom Rigol chips - what if they need to be replaced one day? it has BGA chips - so hard to fix if not impossible. The multitude of tiny switch mode power supply chips doesn't look durable to me. I've seen chips like that cooked on PCBs. As Dave says at 16:00 those tracks and parts look very whimpy for 50 ohm mode. Are they 5 thou tracks and tiny resistors? So could they burn out in some situations?
@Chilangosta
@Chilangosta Жыл бұрын
BGAs actually aren't too bad anymore; even if you're not comfortable with or don't have a good hot air gun they have a broad hoof attachment for most irons that let you take them off in seconds. Then you can stencil on some solder paste (stencils are optional, but cheap and helpful), heat it again to create the ball, and then plop it back down and zap it again quick with some heat and you're done!
@Chilangosta
@Chilangosta Жыл бұрын
I think the hardest part for me with custom chips is the supply. Dries up quickly after production and then you're dead in the water if you need one down the road.
@Bobby-fj8mk
@Bobby-fj8mk Жыл бұрын
@@Chilangosta - in theory that is OK but in practice it's hard to get a reliable repair. You can't see if your solder connections are all OK. Did you know that they check BGA connections with an X-Ray system in the factories?
@Bobby-fj8mk
@Bobby-fj8mk Жыл бұрын
@@Chilangosta - yes - they make only a certain number of chips and that's it. Factories will often order an extra 10% to keep as spare stock so they can do repairs and that's all there is. They use too many custom chips to cut down the cost of mass production. In the good old days design engineers would try their best to use chips that were available from at least 3 different sources but not anymore. Some chips now even need factory firmware to operate them too. You'd never be give that. The repair game is a thing of the past in many cases.
@jstro-hobbytech
@jstro-hobbytech Жыл бұрын
wanna sell it. i just lost my house in sydney to a hurricane and need to buy a 121gw next week and you can send that with it. haha, funny, not funny. Sydney, Nova Scotia Canada. i had just bought a new siglent scope and needed a new dmm. if you do see this how long is shipping to canada from your store do ya know?
@jackpatteeuw9244
@jackpatteeuw9244 Жыл бұрын
How do you test/prove 12 bit accuracy?
@uliseszx6044
@uliseszx6044 Жыл бұрын
Hack it!! 🙏
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
You hack it by hand entering bits via the small pushbuttons on the board. This takes 12 hours, and if you make a mistake, the scope becomes bricked.
@wwsoft
@wwsoft Жыл бұрын
Why would you want to add a DC bias to the frontend?
@laurencefeng2706
@laurencefeng2706 Жыл бұрын
good for measuring low frequency noise/drift for power supply circuit?
@scottpelletier1370
@scottpelletier1370 Жыл бұрын
I was also confused. Everything should be software controlled.
@and1424
@and1424 Жыл бұрын
Android? I would have bet they would use gnu/Linux..
@aarongreenfield9038
@aarongreenfield9038 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you hack this to run some Android apps on it.
@scienceandmathHandle
@scienceandmathHandle Жыл бұрын
Just I thought but I bet the IQ at the end of the front end IC probably means its an IQ demodulator which explains the dual differential pair from each channel.
@AnotherPointOfView944
@AnotherPointOfView944 Жыл бұрын
Dust?
@brumbymg
@brumbymg Жыл бұрын
Oh-oh .... my "Like" just put the count to 666
@yuai339
@yuai339 Жыл бұрын
seemly no serdes chips
@JoshDeng
@JoshDeng Жыл бұрын
Didn't you JUST buy the thing?!
@iodehk5205
@iodehk5205 Жыл бұрын
you mean to say you do not take apart new stuff immediately? its where all the cool stuff is
@allenbaltz6114
@allenbaltz6114 Жыл бұрын
"Don't turn it on, take it apart!"
@TeacherBrunoOneil
@TeacherBrunoOneil Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many osciloscope you have lol
@NickNorton
@NickNorton Жыл бұрын
Congratulations getting the Silicon manufactured I suppose. Given that China is only interested in making
@gglovato
@gglovato Жыл бұрын
Yeah they cheaped out on the rock chip soc, it's a turd processor for bottom of the barrel tablets and cheap TVs, performance is horrible as well as software support
@MrJef06
@MrJef06 Жыл бұрын
It may not be a high end SoC indeed but there was a time not so long ago when a scope did not need a 6 core 64-bit CPU running at 2 GHz 😉
@gglovato
@gglovato Жыл бұрын
@@MrJef06 and that's.how you get sluggish unresponsive UI as soon as you do anything than displaying a basic waveform. That manufacturers always cheaped out and put underperforming soc does not excuse them
@joeyjustin6895
@joeyjustin6895 Жыл бұрын
SOO UNFORTUNATELY. THIERS ALWAYS AN UNFORTUNATE. THE RESON FOR THE HEAT SINKS AND FAN IS TO DRAW DIRT AND DUST IN AND OVER HEAT IT IN YEAR SO IT OVER HEATS AND YOU HAVE TO BUY NEXT YEARS MODEL. THAT'S THE REASON ALWAYS FOR THE FAN. ALWSYS. YOU CAN ALWAYS DESIGN ANY THING THAT RUNS COOLER OR HAS A FAN FILTER. THIS IS PURLEY TO KILL IT IN A YEARS TIME
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