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Rouute: Road Based Energy! Harvest kinestic energy from cars using speed bumps. Will this decarbonise and save the planet? Do the numbers add up?
www.rouute.com/road-based-energy
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00:00 - Rouute Road Based Energy
01:58 - Discount Morgan Freeman narrates the video
03:21 - UN Goal 7 compliant
04:40 - The founder explains and shows a testing video
06:37 - Let's look at their info pack
09:03 - Can we get serious now?
11:19 - Reminds of PaveGen that is still gaining millions in funding for energy harvesting pavements
12:41 - You canna' change the laws of physics Captain!
13:30 - Let's calculate the Kinetic Energy viability using their numbers
14:34 - They seem to be out by an order of magnitude at least...
16:15 - Converting kinetic energy into electrical energy is just energy THEFT on flat roads
19:57 - It works, but is all but impractical in most circumstances.
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@whollymindless
@whollymindless 3 ай бұрын
Our educational programs are seriously failing to teach fundamental engineering.
@cberge8
@cberge8 3 ай бұрын
Agreed 115%. Anyone with even the most basic engineering or electrical knowledge knows intuitively that a system like this is simply harvesting energy at the expense of road users increased energy consumption. Think of it as a toll or tax on roads that would employ this technology.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 ай бұрын
They still teach E=1/2mv squared in school, it's just that no one bothers to apply it.
@OtherDalfite
@OtherDalfite 3 ай бұрын
I don't think that's the issue. It's that people not versed in engineering at all are being swooned by 'clever' marketing tactics
@stusue9733
@stusue9733 3 ай бұрын
@@cberge8 Isn't 115% part of the problem? ;)
@cberge8
@cberge8 3 ай бұрын
@@stusue9733 Not at all. Anything above 100% just gives you a perpetual motion machine/free energy device. I've seen a ton of KZfaq tutorials on how to make these so they must be legit. Lol
@hertog8149
@hertog8149 3 ай бұрын
The fact that the creator has worked in oil and gas before makes perfect sense. This is an excellent way to increase fuel use.
@dh2032
@dh2032 3 ай бұрын
and am amusing the faster the traffic the power it will make? I think I need reminding why speed bump where put on the road in the first place? the landing say plane? landing or something getting rid of energy eg speed landing would a good idea jet aircraft carriers use tow line that catches the planes as the land making landing area a lot shorter than without one?
@rucker69
@rucker69 3 ай бұрын
@@dh2032 try again mate. you killed godzilla with that comment.
@HenrikMyrhaug
@HenrikMyrhaug 3 ай бұрын
FR, I thought I had a stroke
@chaosryans
@chaosryans 3 ай бұрын
​@@dh2032the landing strip is long to allow the plane to slow down. Using a rope to slow it down would rip pieces off of it. Planes have to dump fuel for early landing because the mass could break off the wings.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 3 ай бұрын
Well they did say that they're aligned with the UAE.
@Chris-rg6nm
@Chris-rg6nm 3 ай бұрын
Loll they are stealing energy from your car at the very best
@codures
@codures 3 ай бұрын
It's just making regenerative braking less efficient.
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan 3 ай бұрын
Works best if you drive a G-wagon
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 ай бұрын
Not if you put up a sign, then you've been informed and consent if you proceed.
@Mechnipulation
@Mechnipulation 3 ай бұрын
Stealing while wasting some.
@bobert4522
@bobert4522 3 ай бұрын
@@MeppyMantoo efficient. More so coal blowing diesel pickup.
@aaronhunyady
@aaronhunyady 3 ай бұрын
Compression-absorbing boots for cows. I’ve calculated one cow walking across a pasture could generate 450-850 Wh per hoof. AND, if you cover the pasture in speed bumps it will double the energy output. Each cow will have blue lasers that coordinate cow movement to maximize power output.
@noop1111
@noop1111 2 ай бұрын
Collect the farts too
@ciprianmogosanu7169
@ciprianmogosanu7169 2 ай бұрын
Tech bros watching right now: 😲 is free real estate
@An_Attempt
@An_Attempt 3 ай бұрын
I'm not even 40 seconds in and I'm already mortified. This makes the solar roads look like the product of sheer genius.
@SomeDudeInBaltimore
@SomeDudeInBaltimore 3 ай бұрын
"Discount Morgan Freeman" had me in tears.
@chodnejabko3553
@chodnejabko3553 3 ай бұрын
Considering we're in 2024 this possibly can actually be an AI generated voice of Morgan Freeman.
@chadiaffan1956
@chadiaffan1956 3 ай бұрын
Soind like AI generated Morgan Freeman
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 ай бұрын
@@chodnejabko3553 Yeah, I wasn't sure if AI or a voice actor. I'm erring toward AI
@gg-gn3re
@gg-gn3re 3 ай бұрын
the trailing sound on words sounds more like "ze frank" (youtuber) I think the AI is using both of them lmao
@Kabodanki
@Kabodanki 3 ай бұрын
that is the voice of soda sopa in south path : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9WFp9KiyqvbaIk.html
@mervstash3692
@mervstash3692 3 ай бұрын
When Thunderf00t transitions into an Aussie. Love it mate
@Shrike-Valeo
@Shrike-Valeo 3 ай бұрын
And stops being a massive narcissist. Much as I like a debunk he's insufferably condescending.
@mervstash3692
@mervstash3692 3 ай бұрын
@@Shrike-Valeo that's how you treat scammers.
@homuraakemi4559
@homuraakemi4559 2 ай бұрын
This is a Thundrf00t video
@viktable5955
@viktable5955 2 ай бұрын
Th00t is a dirty commie though, while this guy is based
@piad2102
@piad2102 2 ай бұрын
He is " the man ".@@Shrike-Valeo
@stephenban
@stephenban 3 ай бұрын
To be clear, this device isn't capturing the energy from a vehicle slowing down - it *causes* that to happen, but doesn't capture that. The actual energy generated is coming from the vehicle compressing the speed bump, which would indeed be a tiny amount. So it does steal the energy from the car that's required to crest the bump and compress the hydraulic cylinder, but the energy that goes into slowing down *before* you get to the speed bump is either going to go into regen (for an electric car), or just get wasted (for ICE cars).
@sapincher
@sapincher Ай бұрын
Doin' some math, gravitational potential energy for a 3 tonne vehicle moving down 10 centimeters is .. 2940 joules or 0.8 watt hours. You can run a microwave for 2 seconds for each passenger vehicle. Assuming perfect extraction, energy storage & AC conversion, you would need 60 cars to get their gravitational potential energy sucked out of them to cook a hot pocket
@Mr.Not_Sure
@Mr.Not_Sure 3 ай бұрын
From my understanding, a "speed bump" capable of stopping 3 ton vehicle from 68 km/h to zero, must be 2 meters tall and made from concrete.
@Lolwutfordawin
@Lolwutfordawin 3 ай бұрын
A sand/gravel pit would work too.
@supernova743
@supernova743 3 ай бұрын
A sand and gravel pit will trap the vehicle and take up a lot of space. A brick wall is both compact and effective.
@An_Attempt
@An_Attempt 3 ай бұрын
If not, then they managed to crate the star trek inertial dampener.
@Taudlitz
@Taudlitz 3 ай бұрын
@@supernova743 but sand pit is reusable, I fear brick wall is getting close to one use disposable trick. Unless we build it real thick. Also I think it would be easier to trick people to drive into pit than a wall. We need more grant money to rsearch this further.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 3 ай бұрын
@@Taudlitz What if you paint a tunnel on the wall?
@GOAE7777
@GOAE7777 3 ай бұрын
I get about 250 watt hours per mile in my Model 3. So driving over a single one of these gives as much energy as it takes to go an entire mile? Now I may not be the best at physics, but these bumps look considerably easier to drive over than to drive a mile, given that drag exists. If I drive over 5 of these, I get a whole kilowatt hour! So... It sounds like a perpetual motion machine. Just hook up some induction pad right after the bumps and we have infinite energy folks! We solved it! Maybe we can also put dynamos at stop lights and have cars rev while waiting for the light to change while we're at it.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 ай бұрын
Yep, I did the calc, 300Wh is the same energy as stopping a 3ton car from 94km/h down to zero.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 3 ай бұрын
you don't get it, they'll stop your car for 1 minute to run the wheels. sure it's an abrupt stop when you're driving 50mph and you get latched on the device but think about it, it's energy you paid for and not the city, it's only right they ste.. tax your battery in an inefficient neck breaking manner.
@jeffmassey4860
@jeffmassey4860 3 ай бұрын
Human nature dictates that car drivers will avoid places with annoying and property damaging speed bump zones for their own comfort.
@d3nza482
@d3nza482 3 ай бұрын
@@EEVblog They are probably doing some bad math combined with wishful thinking. E.g. Taking the maximum energy harvestable from a car then multiplying it by 2 (two sets of wheels per bump), then splitting a bump into two bumps so each wheel compresses one half-bump and multiplying again, then adding another bump in series and multiplying THAT... then going "But what if a car is a fully loaded VAN?" Also, any energy harvestable wouldn't come from speed reduction but from the weight of the vehicle - you can drive over a speed bump at full speed without it slowing you down. There's a speed bump I can see from my back window - people not minding the road (or their car) will go full speed over the bump. The bump doesn't stop the car. It is not a wall. DRIVER slows down the car to avoid getting a kick in the ass and to protect the car. These guys are also off in their calculation by the factor of shock absorbers - that's where the energy is already going when going over a bump. Yeah, sure, the spring in their harvesting speed bump will store energy when a car goes over it - but so will the shock absorber spring in the car, that was designed to minimize the effect of going over a bump. Also, rubber tires. I had a moron run over my foot which was already in the road. I was standing, looking right, being careful and all cause I was holding an umbrella and it was raining - he ran by me from the left. It felt no heavier than a regular sized moron stepping on my foot. It took me a split second to realize what happened as he just drove on down the street. He was moving fast enough that all I experienced was a fraction of the weight of the car for a fraction of a second. It hurt a bit but I just mentioned his mother and continued walking to school. Same happens with a speed bump. Only a fraction of the energy as weight gets transferred. And the faster the car goes, the less energy gets transferred. That's why people lose the grip of the road while going fast vs. going slow and why asphalt tends not to get depressions in the open road but will deform at traffic lights.
@1Hippo
@1Hippo 3 ай бұрын
Has to be over a mile plastered with these bumps or something like this. Then you lose "only" a few km/h on each hit ;) Note: they didn't specify what "one system" means, how many bumps, modules etc... basically a marketing lie.
@jesuslovespee
@jesuslovespee 3 ай бұрын
The blue lasers that shoot around to every other car makes this tech totally worth it
@IlBiggo
@IlBiggo 3 ай бұрын
It's the surplus free energy generated by all the bounce-bounce-bounce.
@jesuslovespee
@jesuslovespee 2 ай бұрын
@@IlBiggo 1. Violate the laws of thermodynamics 2. Profit
@Cartoonman154
@Cartoonman154 3 ай бұрын
The housing for the generator had a solar panel on top. Something tells me that more energy can be gathered with that. lol
@edomn822
@edomn822 3 ай бұрын
The one place this could potentially work (steep downhill roadways) is precisely where I don't want my ability to brake effectively being compromised by these things' reduced tire contact patches and the entire car bouncing up and down, loading and unloading the suspension.
@wimtel
@wimtel 3 ай бұрын
Real fun is this. Several years ago our municipality also wanted to "experiment" with energy harvesting road bumps. I did the math based on the vertical movement of the bump and the weight of a car. Results were the same: useless idea. So I wrote a letter with the math. Luckely they didn't invest money in this experiment.
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740 3 ай бұрын
It generates steady sustainable income for car repair services too. And, the more you car sits at a suspension repair - the less it drives on roads and less pollution. Combo!
@subarusympathizer
@subarusympathizer 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the only thing I could think of as he was explaining that energy cannot simply be created, only transferred, WS just the idea of how little that would matter to anyone wanting to employ these, since the added fuel required to continue at the same rate of speed comes out of my pocket, not theirs!
@twoina
@twoina 3 ай бұрын
I guess, the marketing guys are just confused by W and Wh. The speed bump may generate 150-300watts for the split second, the car is hitting the bump.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 ай бұрын
I suspect so also.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 ай бұрын
That's like the PMPO "rating" for speakers x.x
@matthewrichardson828
@matthewrichardson828 3 ай бұрын
harvesting energy from footsteps from people who are just trying to get through their day without getting too tired, forgetting that gyms have dozens of people in them working out and trying to give energy away
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 ай бұрын
Is there a good way to do that? OK stationary bicycle or stepper/walker excercise devices are pretty obvious candidates. A treadmill is not... really unless it's gravity based?
@turolretar
@turolretar 2 ай бұрын
Ok this really sounds dystopian
@HaloInverse
@HaloInverse 2 ай бұрын
@@SianaGearz You'd have to set it up so the runner was driving the treadmill belt, instead of the treadmill belt being spun under the runner. I'm not sure how practical this would be, but _maybe_ if you had some sort of shoulder-harness tether to stop the runner from moving forward, you could set up the treadmill belt to be basically free-spinning but connected to a flywheel (to preserve inertia and keep the belt movement semi-continuous) and a generator (to harvest energy). The bit I'm least sure about is how to set up the harness so that it doesn't interfere with natural running movement - I'd imagine the tether line would have to align with the runner's center of mass, at the least.
@HaloInverse
@HaloInverse 2 ай бұрын
@@turolretar It _sounds_ dystopian, but I doubt any economically-realistic dystopia would mandate it, due to efficiency losses. The poor proletariat forced to work in "human energy production" would be consuming more food energy than the amount of electrical energy they'd be producing - you'd get much more efficient energy conversion by just setting food on fire directly. I think this only works in "dystopias" where even the underclass has a resource surplus, or in semi-dystopias (e.g. the real world) wherein you could get credit back on your gym membership fees from your energy production - making them cheaper or almost-free if you have the time and energy to work out regularly.
@takix2007
@takix2007 3 ай бұрын
During my engineering degree, I stumbled on a newspaper article about "piezoelectric pavement", and submitted it for thoughts to my fellow students. My point was, "the energy comes from your lunch, and you'd be better off producing electricity on a bike with a dynamo generator". Amazingly, some of my fellows failed to see it was moronic, and said "well, the system can gain in efficiency so it won't rely on the walker's energy"... 🤦‍♂️
@vylbird8014
@vylbird8014 3 ай бұрын
Humans don't generate that much energy. I already thought of a gym with a side-line in electricity generation. But it would only give enough power to run the lights.
@takix2007
@takix2007 3 ай бұрын
@@vylbird8014 no, indeed, they don't, that was my whole point : bicycles with dynamo generators (which is a dumb idea once you really think about the little power it would generate) would be a much more intelligent thing compared to the "pavement generators"... which is saying something about the uselessness of the latter.
@pulidoggy
@pulidoggy 3 ай бұрын
@takix2007 Of course, improving efficiency is the key! Simply design a 101% efficient dynamo and you're done 😂
@AndrewFrink
@AndrewFrink 3 ай бұрын
An average gym goer on a bike could maybe produce 100w for an hour. Trained amateur cyclists maybe 200w for an hour, but let's use 100w. So if you have a spin class of 15 people, that's 1500w/hr. A bit more than the lights for the room, but nowhere near covering the hvac.
@ZTanMURReneRs
@ZTanMURReneRs 2 ай бұрын
Yeah "unfortunately" for ideas like human powered gyms, human bodies are just way too efficient at using energy. :p
@homeoftheineptgamer318
@homeoftheineptgamer318 3 ай бұрын
This is the thing. If you just draw a basic diagram with arrows representing the downwards weight of the truck and horizontal push of the vehicle you get a diagonal line. You cannot extract energy from the weight of the truck as it will weigh the same and so the only other place is from the push/momentum. If you extract momentum then the truck slows down (needing energy to accelerate) which means it needs to use more energy (and gas/electric) to speed up.
@EwanMarshall
@EwanMarshall 3 ай бұрын
There is a quarry in Beil, Switzerland, this specific quarry is unusual, they load the ore into dumptrucks at the top and take it to the bottom. So they use the largest electric dump trucks, they drive off the batteries on the way up and recharge the batteries on the way down recovering enough energy they do not need to to ever plug these trucks into recharge. And this shows the rub, any location you could use this, an electric vehicle regen will be just as good if not better.
@gabest4
@gabest4 3 ай бұрын
I think giant pendulums between major destinations is the future of energy efficient travel.
@kain0m
@kain0m 3 ай бұрын
Imagine you if you wanted to step off halfway between the stops 😂
@Envinite
@Envinite 3 ай бұрын
Reminds me with that elevator thing from Total Recall
@dirkvornholt2507
@dirkvornholt2507 3 ай бұрын
Actually, some of the urban trains in Germany use something similar by having elevated stations so they decelerate uphill and accelerate downhill.
@jonathanj8303
@jonathanj8303 3 ай бұрын
​@@dirkvornholt2507 I can't remember which, but at least one of the early tube lines in London did this too. Regenerative braking before there were power electronics.
@wta1518
@wta1518 2 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanj8303I'm pretty sure that was the Victoria Line, which is the second newest Underground line.
@vorpalinferno9711
@vorpalinferno9711 3 ай бұрын
Thunderf00t is going to have a field day with this one.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately he's too busy farming views with nonstop Elon bashing as if there aren't enough channels doing that already.
@vorpalinferno9711
@vorpalinferno9711 3 ай бұрын
@@JJFX- Elon bashing is a good thing. Keeps Elon down to earth and gives Elon an incentive to prove his haters wrong.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 3 ай бұрын
@@vorpalinferno9711 I really couldn't care less but it's taking away from his scientific content. Essentially 10/12 videos in the last 4 months dedicated to Musk drama is a bit ridiculous.
@Cara.314
@Cara.314 Ай бұрын
@@JJFX- Seeing that Elon has more influence than all these other scams put together while also selling the same vaporware, good, im glad he focuses mostly on that clown.
@sapincher
@sapincher Ай бұрын
i cant wait to listen to the same 3 points repeated 20 times over the course of a 30 minute video
@rianhines8747
@rianhines8747 3 ай бұрын
Ah yes, previously untapped energy source. The internal combustion engine. 😂
@50shadesofbeige88
@50shadesofbeige88 3 ай бұрын
Anyone working in "green energy" initiatives should be forced to use a hand crank flashlight before starting.
@flapjackboy
@flapjackboy 3 ай бұрын
Every single Doctor Who fan upon seeing the kid in the gas mask: "Are you my mummy?"
@exe_
@exe_ 2 ай бұрын
something like that creates drag and it makes using that road less energy efficient, you will pay more gas to get a fraction of the energy captured.
@MegaRyan123456
@MegaRyan123456 2 ай бұрын
Them darn laws of thermodynamics 🤔
@paulscottrobson
@paulscottrobson 3 ай бұрын
Sounded like a perpetual motion machine claim to me ; the energy expended in climbing / pressing the bump exceeds the generated energy, otherwise it's just an inefficient energy transfer.
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740
@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740 3 ай бұрын
Dave roasted them 'Well done', with a great sarcasm 'full on'. I can't appreciate it enough.
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of a stretch of concrete test highway I used to commute on. You don't use concrete for roadways where the ground freezes solid in winter because it just falls apart at the joints and needs to be patched... So driving on that stretch of road was miles of THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP..... it was especially horrible in a truck with a leaf spring suspension. I was so happy when they tore that up.
@actually5004
@actually5004 3 ай бұрын
The Lake Pontchartrain Causeway does this for it's entire length, so wonderful.
@PDF-project
@PDF-project 3 ай бұрын
Great as always Dave. I love the bump test with the Mercedes, one of the most polluting cars on the market! Well done green roads...
@IIARROWS
@IIARROWS 3 ай бұрын
Solar FREAKING Roadways finally got a proper sequel! I love it!
@CZpersi
@CZpersi 3 ай бұрын
Passangers in busses are going to love this😂
@ivy7642
@ivy7642 2 ай бұрын
I don't know why they don't target motorway braking zones primarily. Over in the UK they put down these big yellow stripes that shake the hell out of your wheels in braking zones. It's a place where energy is being wasted because you HAVE to slow down, they FORCE you to slow down with the bumpy stripes, so why not install this stuff at these points where the energy being recouped is actually energy that'll be legitimately wasted otherwise.
@Mimimo02
@Mimimo02 3 ай бұрын
The fake euphoria kills me… Too funny
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 3 ай бұрын
Looking at the energy figures are they really assuming it will _literally_ be the only thing to stop your car? For a 3000kg car 150Wh corresponds to a speed of 68kph while 300Wh corresponds to a speed of 96kph. The only other organizations that have "speed bumps" capable of extracting that amount of energy from a vehicle are NHTSA in the US and NCAP in Europe. I think we are going to need more cars!
@DjClarky78
@DjClarky78 3 ай бұрын
I like the "fist pump of excitement" you do in the air at 0:44 - it's fantastic how excited you are about humanities journey to net zero, and nice seeing you share your enthusiasm with your viewers. Keep up the good work Dave - you are an inspiration to us all... ;-)
@IlBiggo
@IlBiggo 3 ай бұрын
**cough** Guys, who's going to explain this to our friend @DjClarky78 ? :D
@ineedaname5928
@ineedaname5928 2 ай бұрын
@@IlBiggoI believe it’s a joke seeing as they put “fist pump of excitement” in quotations
@IlBiggo
@IlBiggo 2 ай бұрын
@@ineedaname5928 I wasn't sure so I just went for a multipurpose joke :D
@ineedaname5928
@ineedaname5928 2 ай бұрын
@@IlBiggo oh sorry, looks like I’m the one that failed to realise the joke 😅
@DjClarky78
@DjClarky78 2 ай бұрын
@@ineedaname5928 - exactly this. I certainly got it - wank wank. ;-)
@TonboIV
@TonboIV 3 ай бұрын
The simplest way I can think of to build such a system would be to put a long gas filled bladder (nitrogen or just air) inside the whole length of the bump. When something drives over the bump, it compresses the bladder and pressurizes the gas. Add a couple a check valves and you now have a gas pump. Store the pressurized gas in a big tank and use the stored gas to power a small turbine or pneumatic engine. The tank can store up the gas from each pulse, allowing the turbine to run continuously, and by making the tank nice and big, each pulse won't change the pressure much, which will give more consistent (and thus more optimizable) performance for both the pump and the turbine. A hydraulic-pneumatic system could also be used, with the bump having hydraulic fluid inside which then operates a pneumatic pump close to the generator. The shorter run for the pneumatic circuit might increase performance or the switch to hydraulic for the bump might make the design more robust. It would take a lot of work to figure out if that would be worthwhile. Of course, it would only make sense to install these in places where you already want a speed bump, and I think it's very questionable if the system would produce enough power to be worth-while. My intuition is that it wouldn't even pay off the energy used for manufacturing and installation during its lifetime.
@AllanSavolainen
@AllanSavolainen 3 ай бұрын
This might make sense in cities as regular speed bumps that can power some speeding camera or something like that.
@nacoran
@nacoran 2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing something about this quite a while ago. If you look at it from the perspective of an engineer it's stupid, but remember, the person who puts in the speed bump isn't paying for the gas that is being wasted by slowing the vehicle with a speed bump. Speed bumps usually slow cars down by encouraging the person to use their brakes to slow down. If instead you had something that physically slowed the vehicle... more in the line of the slowing you get when you drive through a large puddle, then, because it was forcing the vehicle to slow rather than encouraging the vehicle to slow, you might get a better speed bump for safety, but energywise, yeah it's stupid. I could see it being useful on some long stretches for large trucks, not so much for generating electricity, but as a way to save their brakes a bit and prevent runaway.
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna 2 ай бұрын
Except they already have something for that: The jake brake. Problem is, people are too busy complaining about the noise of the jake brake to realize that it is a safety feature and should be able to be used anywhere regardless of the loudness. I would rather be woken up in the middle of the night by a straight piped peterbilt using his jake brake than for said straight piped peterbilt run through a minivan and two sedans and kill three families because he lit his brakes on fire trying to stop and there aren't any runaway ramps nearby.
@MinecraftRivers2311
@MinecraftRivers2311 3 ай бұрын
0:32 That “yayyy!” got me. Brilliant video.
@MyTubeSVp
@MyTubeSVp 3 ай бұрын
I watched this for one minute. Every watt this concept outputs is stolen (x2-3-4?) from the vehicles that pass over it. Impossible, next!
@jakelong4271
@jakelong4271 3 ай бұрын
I think they're claiming that if the system was constantly in use for an hour it would make 300wh of power. And it would be impossible to get a constant flow of cars that never stops. So what they actually mean is it will make
@ViaConDias
@ViaConDias 3 ай бұрын
Universities lining up to participate in the Hyperloop scam told me all I needed to know about the state of the educational system.
@topek8693
@topek8693 3 ай бұрын
Assuming it works (on downwards hills), I would think it still will only be green if the energy it generates is worth more than the corban emitted from manufacturing, installing and maintaining the system as well, and I doubt that was ever considered.
@andreagarbin1726
@andreagarbin1726 3 ай бұрын
Also Downhill will not make sense for Hybrid or elecrtic cars : the energy accumulatded by the system is stolen from the rigen system of the car... ( minus inefficency )
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 3 ай бұрын
Roads are dirty, what happens when it gets full of dust and dirt? What happens in the winter when water gets in and freezes?
@shenriksson
@shenriksson 3 ай бұрын
Einstein said, "Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another". This first law of thermodynamics which also known as Law of Conservation of Energy works in all sphere of life.
@TheMoulie
@TheMoulie 3 ай бұрын
This is going straight into my A level Physics lesson tomorrow for a discussion starter. Pretty certain my future automotive engineering student will be in hysterics. That small trial footage reminds me of the cobble test road they used a lot in top gear 🤣
@conodigrom
@conodigrom 3 ай бұрын
I just need "quantum" to fill my bazingo-mubo-jumbo bingo card!
@EpicATrain
@EpicATrain 3 ай бұрын
That sounds like a person doing the voice of Morgan Freeman (not Freeman himself).
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow 3 ай бұрын
300Wh from a single car driving over one of those things? Didn't know you can find an engineering degree in Cheetos Ketchup
@Joliie
@Joliie 3 ай бұрын
we have speedbumps all over the place here (Denmark), but if we did replace them with these, what would be the initial cost, maintenance and how much would it generate to offset that cost.
@mikedjames
@mikedjames 3 ай бұрын
Looks like springs and pumps in the road surface. A few hours of muddy runoff and it will lock solid.
@HontasFarmer80
@HontasFarmer80 3 ай бұрын
Yet this kind of thing people will tell us is WONDERFUL and REVOLUTIONARY and how dare you tell people it won't practically work.
@tra-viskaiser8737
@tra-viskaiser8737 3 ай бұрын
Ok, when you first said egen.... i didnt have the volume up very much to my american/southerner ears, and swore you said ejit with so much enthusiasm... laughed pretty hard and loud for a few seconds. Lol
@TheSeanUhTron
@TheSeanUhTron 3 ай бұрын
The only place I could see this working is on highway offramps, but as you pointed out, people would get really annoyed at their cars bouncing around! Also, as EV's become more common this would have a negative impact on energy efficiency. It's way more efficient to recharge the EV battery with regen than it is to try to harvest it through speed bumps.
@criticalevent
@criticalevent 3 ай бұрын
Why are they speed bumps? Why not make the whole road out of them? And add solar panels! Solar bumpin' roadways!
@VincentZauhar
@VincentZauhar 3 ай бұрын
The fact that they used a G-Wagon to showcase it is so great
@danradum
@danradum 3 ай бұрын
You should do some traveling around the world. In Romania there is an extreme amount of speed bumps, every crazed parent request one to “protect” their child, in some suburbs there are roads with speed bumps every 100-200m, it is crazy
@user-rz6tn4kx4c
@user-rz6tn4kx4c 3 ай бұрын
Priority memo to Purchasing! We need another 55 gallon drum of buzz-words!
@bencheevers6693
@bencheevers6693 3 ай бұрын
Revolutionary idea for these guys, instead of taking the energy from the car, just go straight to the source, hook up an engine to a generator and that's going to solve our power needs, we could distribute these stations where it's feasible but also distributive to prevent losses and vary the generation based on demand and not need storage, could call these places power stations, probably more efficient motors than car engines but that's for r&d to work on.
@SchwaAlien
@SchwaAlien 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the science project that the kids next to me in gr. 10 did at the university science fair which was to stick a ridge line wind turbine on a car. Their excuse was that a lot of cars were boxy (at that time) so it wouldn’t make much difference in terms of fuel economy… I was pretty sure you’d be taking more energy out of the movement than you’d recover in electricity. My project was 3D TV, also impractical but did eventually come to market!
@dogdipstick
@dogdipstick 3 ай бұрын
My dad is a power engineer and he says its a drop in the bucket. The C02. Says the biggest danger to the atmosphere is lawnmowers, unregulated mowers. He designed the scrubbes for most GE power turbines all over the world. He was hired by Italy to develop nuclear but Chernoyble sent us home. He is still working in nuclear.
@losttownstreet3409
@losttownstreet3409 3 ай бұрын
You'll find energy harvesting with wind turbines at UK roads for road side installations (road signs, metering, ...). The speed bump could be used for traffic purpuse but there a non newtonian speed bump which are cheaper.
@mstewart248
@mstewart248 3 ай бұрын
In Brazil they have speed bumps on the roads like every quarter of a mile. That’s how they combat speeding mostly instead of cops patrolling for speeders. So in a place where they are doing that might make more sense.
@thedave7760
@thedave7760 3 ай бұрын
The whole problem with all these things is "or can be stored for later use" The public thinks that this will happen in the next 5 years without realising that we are out of options when it comes to storing, they will never improve to the level we need to do net zero.
@scottc346
@scottc346 2 ай бұрын
Right off the bat I see this taking a toll on the wear and tear of vehicles.
@scottgilmour8392
@scottgilmour8392 3 ай бұрын
So what happens when one of the hydraulic cylinders siezes at either end of its travel or simply collapses under load? At highway speed?
@boryswwa
@boryswwa 3 ай бұрын
I think what they did with those calculations Is to state the energy stored in a traveling vehicle and "sold" it as energy that can be recovered. They forgot to mention, that recovering this energy would mean - stopping the vehicle complately. Or maybe they didn't forget. They just didn't know that :)
@An_Attempt
@An_Attempt 3 ай бұрын
There is a reason that we don't put speed bumps at the bottom of hills: You don't want cars to pile up in start and go traffic on a hill if avodable, a speed bump at the bottom a hill will exasperate this problem substantially.
@HamedAdefuwa
@HamedAdefuwa 3 ай бұрын
its net zeroing the decarbonization process for all industries, I'm in.
@SirDeanosity
@SirDeanosity 3 ай бұрын
A commute to work and back on a level road would be like driving uphill both ways! Lol
@throwaway3227
@throwaway3227 3 ай бұрын
8:00 A landing strip would probably be perfect, as the energy is clearly taken from somewhere, and you want to slow the plane down. Probably less good for planes trying to take off, though 😆 It could also be useful leading up to stop signs, as long as no people live nearby to complain about the extra sound pollution from the speed bumps.
@Pentross
@Pentross 3 ай бұрын
All those mesh connection scenes… love how they use stock footage of a completely unrelated technology
@bobbykozak6032
@bobbykozak6032 2 ай бұрын
I went into this assuming they were harnessing the constant pull of gravity on it. That would make the conversion only directly related to rolling resistance, not any of the inertia or atmospheric effects faced by vehicles. Why would you be limited to downhill then? Or am I missing something?
@andrewkepert923
@andrewkepert923 3 ай бұрын
I wondered how long until Dave dropped “rouuted”. Rouute is a perfect name for an investment harvesting device, if you ask me.
@Agouti
@Agouti 3 ай бұрын
For those curious, you would need to lower a 3 ton car 36.7m (120ft) straight down in order extract 300 Wh (1.08MJ) from it, assuming 100% efficiency. Based on their video, I'd estimate it to be closer to 20mm per bump, so with 6 of them (3 each side) your best case scenario is extracting just shy of 0.5 Wh per (very angry) car. So yeah, just another snake oil startup hitting all the green-washing buzzwords. You could maybe use it to let a carpark speedbump power its own warning LEDs, at least intermittently, if you really wanted to.
@jaredj631
@jaredj631 3 ай бұрын
I heard about something similar to this about 10 years ago, they were only talking about its use for remote checkpoints to power, the toll booths essentially.
@thermionic1234567
@thermionic1234567 3 ай бұрын
After being subjected to that cloying Rouute commercial, I remembered I had gotten off track in my search for an anthracite stove. I’ll redouble my efforts soon!
@MrLampbus
@MrLampbus 3 ай бұрын
I saw an advert (I think) somewhere this week for speed bumps made from thixotropic material ... the aim to make them smooth for slow drivers, but hard for fast drivers. Neat .... but the energy will be released as heat ... I am sure this heating could be harnessed to make electrical power in many ways (steam, thermo-electric etc). ...and it will melt the snow on it !
@aremoreequal
@aremoreequal 2 ай бұрын
9:39 Yeah, downhill, that's a great place to put these things! So we should do that in place where there are downhill runs and a need for electricity, like street lights, maybe local homes, something like that.
@nikasingh8058
@nikasingh8058 2 ай бұрын
My assumption for the use case: Many parking lots in the US have loads of speed bumps. I had assumed that was their target placement until the discussion of "let's place them on major roadways." At that point, given the major prevalence of fossil fuel powered vehicles, it's just really inefficient oil powered generator.
@timballam3675
@timballam3675 3 ай бұрын
A local supermarket in the UK has something like this that generates enough power to run their tills but takes the energy from every vehicle entering their car park! Pain in the arse!
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 3 ай бұрын
One fundamental problem not mentioned is the fact that cars and trucks have dampers. When a road wheel hits a raised part of the road, the wheel is deliberately allowed to move upwards out the way, and the energy of that impact is temporayily stored as tensile energy in the road spring. But we cannot let that energy simply come back out the spring unchecked because the car would be undrivable with both sprung and unsprung parts boucign around uncontrollably. Hence, we fit dampers, and these hydraulic devices absorb the impact energy and disipate it as heat. These dampers are specifically designed to be as close as possible 0% efficient, ie to do their job of keeping the road wheels smoothly in contact with the road, the dampers must disipate the energy from the perturbation as heat, as quickly as possible. So every single vehicle that hits one of these ridiculous moving speedbumps is going to be wasting at least the same amount of energy as heat in it's dampers each and every time, which means even if the energy collection system was 100% efficient the overally efficency is going to be well below 50%, which immediately makes it much much worse than just using regen braking, which being a low impact event, won't also fall apart the entire time........
@supermanp00
@supermanp00 3 ай бұрын
Energy = vehicle mass * gravitational acceleration * vertical displacement. Given their own numbers: Energy = 150Wh = 540 000J, mass = 3000kg, g = 10 m/s^2, then displacement is 18 meters. I am assuming here that this "bump" is round-ish and has a spring mechanism that returns it to equilibrium. Hence, when driving the car over the bump, the car will initially decelerate, yes, but that energy is returned when the the car is past the halfway point of the bump and the spring rebounds, such that there is no effective braking. However I am also assuming that all the compressed spring energy somehow is extracted out of the spring (because this thing must get its energy from somewhere), which implies that the spring will not have any energy to return back to equilibrium. This device is in other words an 18 meter tall speedbump which is one-time-use.
@fmdj
@fmdj 3 ай бұрын
alternative: put smooth ablating rails alongside roads so that stopping cars can come scratch onto them to brake
@dutchbeef8920
@dutchbeef8920 3 ай бұрын
Would you really want complicated machinery installed into to your site entrance and exits? What if it breaks or needs maintenance, whats the downtime then?
@SpaghettiniFiveMillion
@SpaghettiniFiveMillion 3 ай бұрын
This is the equivalent of attaching a diesel generator on a trailer to an electric car but with more steps.
@1Hippo
@1Hippo 3 ай бұрын
Regular speedbumps don't slow you down significantly, it's just the driver taking the foot of the gas because it's uncomfortable. First it needs more energy to get up to the peak of the bump, but then you roll down and convert the elevation back to speed forward (minus some suspension losses). These are no normal speedbumps though, they have to drop down while the car is on it. So you first lose energy driving up and then get nothing back. With multiple in a row it would be like driving up a hill constantly. The design is way to bumpy, maybe with bigger plates/ramps it could be made smoother. Should be possible to have a constant drag, like driving in mud or sand, but idk how diffucult that is in reality... Could have been cool a few decades ago, only on steep downhill sections of course, where breaks often overheat. That could artificially reduce the slope, drivers would be happy because it's safer and reduces break wear. Now with electric vehicles on the rise everyone has regen already built in, so why would any city/state/country install this? people would hate they increased consumption on these road. Tech for the past.
@antikommunistischaktion
@antikommunistischaktion 3 ай бұрын
The thing is this could work if its installed in locations that call for speed bumps anyway. It's taking energy from your moving car anyway so installing them where speed control is desired makes sense. I highly doubt even then it'd be worth it, though.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it will create energy, but there is an effective loss because the energy expended by the vehicle to replace the loss at the generator is greater than the energy created by the mechanism. But another problem not addressed here, is degradation of the devices due to punishment from heavy vehicles, speeding vehicles, and weather, road grit, etc. Then there are safety concerns locating this kind of moving surface in higher speed or high braking areas, leading to loss of traction. Another safety issue surrounds breakages in the devices with potential holes, and broken parts being flung into oncoming traffic. It is an accident waiting to happen.
@Grymyrk
@Grymyrk 3 ай бұрын
The bumps remind me of Mexico City where I was just on holiday. Where fast roads change to slower speeds like a toll station on a highway, they have lots of small bumps on the road forcing cars to slow down.
@pulidoggy
@pulidoggy 3 ай бұрын
I always have a hard time making people realize that energy harvesting is _always_ done at the expense of something else, and it's becoming very frustrating 😠 Last time I did so there was a friend of mine with the brilliant idea of harvesting road energy from magnets installed on vehicles and coils buried under the roadbed, and to my objection that the produced energy would ultimately come from the engine burning more fuel due to the magnetic field drag, he replied with a condescending smile "Yes, but we could make magnets _very small_ ..." 😵‍💫
@troublefollows9986
@troublefollows9986 Күн бұрын
So install in road areas where you need to slow down. In neighborhoods, in school zones, down steep mountain grades, etc ....anywhere your going slow anyway by law.
@RichardDTube
@RichardDTube 2 ай бұрын
This is a really good idea, but it can be made more efficient and cheaper for everybody involved. Don't build the infrastructure, calculate the proposed revenue and collect it as a road toll or road fuel tax. The authority/company avoids the huge installation cost. The motorists pay less because they are only paying the output value, after the inefficiencies of the generation system. The revenue can be spent on renewable energy.
@Philip1995
@Philip1995 3 ай бұрын
As a car shock absorber company I would invest into this.
@donaldhoot7741
@donaldhoot7741 3 ай бұрын
Snake oil salespeople are alive and well! This generation claims to be honest compared to mine, I am 65. Thank you for the great video!
@CatNolara
@CatNolara 3 ай бұрын
3:17 them showing how the energy can be used to charge electric cars had me rolling :D Can they guess where the energy comes from? Oh man...
@Thatdavemarsh
@Thatdavemarsh 3 ай бұрын
ME here - probably the simplest and most efficient is straight to a linear coil/generator. Any intermediate mechanics will rob energy and introduce maintenance, costs, and weather challenges...the displacements would be small, so that might drive big coils. An intermediary year train could multiply displacement, but...yeah. The whole thing sucks. Better to just pave in piezoelectrics.
@SirDeanosity
@SirDeanosity 3 ай бұрын
Someday grandparents will tell their kids they walked to and from school uphill both ways. Soon nobody will finish the New York marathon. These things will replace the moguls in the Winter Olympics.
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