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4 жыл бұрын

A look at the $70 Juntek 2000W power supply with wireless display.
Also the 3000W model, but does it have a problem?
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@MarkFunderburk
@MarkFunderburk 4 жыл бұрын
Those higher voltages are starting to become common with stuff like drones and ebikes.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, ok, interesting, thanks.
@johnalexander2349
@johnalexander2349 4 жыл бұрын
Still not high enough for LED luminaires.
@MarkFunderburk
@MarkFunderburk 4 жыл бұрын
@Dave Micolichek Obviously not, this would be for testing said motor controllers and the like.
@nikkicarlson8511
@nikkicarlson8511 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly and since ebikes are popular, batteries for ebikes become cheap so we can use them for projects. We built a remote operated vehicle that runs on a 48v ebike battery at work.
@StaticVapour590
@StaticVapour590 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikkicarlson8511 And battery packs are relatively easy to build with 18650 batteries and BMS
@JuanJose-tn8yd
@JuanJose-tn8yd 4 жыл бұрын
So, are you telling me i need a power supply to power the power supply ?
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 4 жыл бұрын
AND you need a Dam to power the power station that powers the power supply that powers the power supply. Don't worry, there will be enough left for your light bulb and hot plate. Your power meter may saw a slot through your house, though. ;-)
@averysbragbook
@averysbragbook 3 жыл бұрын
If you really need a basic power supply you could jury rig a enclosed circuit board that plugs into the wall goes into a full wave rectifier and a couple filter caps. Probably those caps need to be rated 220v and I guess everything would be going through the rectifier. So you need a beefy rectifier. Max 1500 w from the wall ?
@mervynjack4108
@mervynjack4108 3 жыл бұрын
@@averysbragbook And how do you isolate the mains supply from the end circuit?
@averysbragbook
@averysbragbook 3 жыл бұрын
@@mervynjack4108 Good point. Make a 1:1 transformer might be the solution
@mervynjack4108
@mervynjack4108 4 жыл бұрын
I found the title misleading. It's not a power "supply" really. It's a smart DC to DC voltage and current regulator. You still have to spend the big bucks on getting your mains rectified, isolated and dropped down. I suppose you could hook it up to batteries or solar cells, but it's still not the 'supply'.
@tenmillionvolts
@tenmillionvolts 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I was thinking it was such good value until i realised it was a regulator without a switch mode mains supply. Price is just ok
@kwhp1507
@kwhp1507 4 жыл бұрын
Rectifying mains voltage is super cheap.
@TheCheaterofall
@TheCheaterofall 4 жыл бұрын
if you dont need 60v, just get a 50v server power supply. for 100€ you get 3kw 60a easy
@777anarchist
@777anarchist 4 жыл бұрын
I get free mains transformers from work. No worries there. Besides, the manual says "DC power supply", fair enough.
@lukahierl9857
@lukahierl9857 4 жыл бұрын
@@kwhp1507 and will blow up the converter and make the output live
@srbuckles
@srbuckles 4 жыл бұрын
Higher voltages are useful for high end bldc motors and servos, they typically have flatter torque curves at higher voltages. 96v would come in handy as a cheap supply for anodizing titanium as well. I'll watch the rest of the video before I decide to I need to pick one of these up!
@tomwimmenhove4652
@tomwimmenhove4652 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't mess up the "V" and "U". I.E U=42V in the same way that you'd write I=42A
@leocurious9919
@leocurious9919 4 жыл бұрын
Jeah, he didnt notice its "I=xA" too, just like with U = xV. Shoudl it be Amps=3Amps? :D
@tinkerwithstuff
@tinkerwithstuff 3 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression the anglo sphere does not use U to designate voltage variables, but V? (which woul dbe confusing because the unit is also V, but hey, that's what it seemed to me so far)
@ipr724
@ipr724 2 жыл бұрын
You are right, it does seem like he messed that up, however, next to where he pointed it says CV CC, so that should be CU CC.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 4 жыл бұрын
Test, KZfaq seems to erasing my own comments on this video.
@esonlemi
@esonlemi 4 жыл бұрын
I see this comment and a few reply's to others on my end. Thanks for the video. always enjoy the content.!
@Rickbearcat
@Rickbearcat 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, I see this loud and clear.
@markwebcraft
@markwebcraft 4 жыл бұрын
Test 1, 2
@pfeerick
@pfeerick 4 жыл бұрын
No, can't see that! 😂😂
@blanknone5408
@blanknone5408 4 жыл бұрын
KZfaq knows what’s best for us
@rEdf196
@rEdf196 4 жыл бұрын
I am a radio enthusiast who monitors VHF and shortwave bands. I have very mixed feelings on some these cheap, sometimes questionable build quality switch-mode transformers used in increasing numbers in modern electronics which are unfortunately known for strong excessive RFI (radio frequency interference) My LED computer monitor which likely uses a cheap 19 volt switch mode power adapter emits widespread interference throughout the entire shortwave band likely becoming a major issue if your a Ham radio operator or receive only listener. I do have a new somewhat pricy TekPower 30 amp swiching power supply I use with my CB radio and other low or high amp 12 volt gadgets. This supply specifically designed 2 way radio use also emits some RFI but does have a nifty noise offset to tune out any self made noises it generates, but cheap poorly designed power supplies are a growing issue to radio enthusiasts.
@digitalradiohacker
@digitalradiohacker 4 жыл бұрын
There isn't a great deal you can do about all the junk that the neighbours have plugged in, but if you're doing anything with audio, including radio, the better bet is have a decent linear supply. Linear supplies are generally larger, heavier, far less efficient, more expensive to buy and more expensive to post. You're not paying this price for nothing though - All these characteristics are the price you pay for very low noise output. I have pulled the supplies out of my monitors and replaced them with a linear regulator setting the reference for a series pass transistor stage on a sheet of 1/4inch thick aluminium. It runs screaming hot, but it adds nothing to the noise floor from audio up to 440Mhz (my playground). It IS possible to get SMPS that are very very low noise, and when I'm rich and famous, I'll go to the effort of stress testing a few. Until then, I dump money, in the form of heat, into reliable and low noise linear tech.
@digitalradiohacker
@digitalradiohacker 4 жыл бұрын
@David Daivdson I am genuinely surprised that the national regulators tolerate it. The place it is most noticeable is HF (3 - 30MHz). Yes, for amateurs it is really really annoying, but they're not the only group of people affected by this. The military of any developed nation still uses HF for long range communications that can operate "off grid". No repeaters, no satellites, no phone lines. I can't believe that in an age where police are empowered to kick down doors over mean tweets, they allow critical infrastructure to be jammed by joke electronics.
@brazeiar9672
@brazeiar9672 4 жыл бұрын
@@digitalradiohacker I suspect that the benefit of higher power supply efficiency outweighs the higher noise floor for ham operators. Very few people use ham radios anymore anyway, at least here in the UK.
@migsvensurfing6310
@migsvensurfing6310 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I moved to the countryside for the same reason.
@Brokendiode
@Brokendiode 3 жыл бұрын
This has been a problem for a long time now, but the only thing that you can do about it is drive out to a mountain top that is at least 3 miles from any civilization, then set up your HF radio gear and then drive your car a 1/4 mile away from your radio antenna or remove the battery cable so that the ECU computer shuts down all the way. Unless you have an old vehicle, pre computer era or at least OBD 1 not 2 let's face it there's more switched mode power supply's out there than you can ever imagine, all new appliances, refrigerators, washers and dryers, stoves, and then there is lights it got really bad at night because of CFL lamps (compact fluorescent lamps). But fortunately those are going away slowly, and bring replaced by LED's which still produce some noise, but not nearly as much as the CFL lamps do. The CFL lamps are bad because of the high voltage required to ionize the gas in the lamp. But TV'S and computers are horrible offenders as they have both a switching power supply, and extremely fast processors. But in addition to those there's little things like chargers for Electric razors, and Electric toothbrushes, and then medical devices such as CPAP machines, there are 2 of those in my house, and they both have those inline power brick power supply's like a laptop computer, and they're all generating noise some a little some a lot. Strangely enough one of the worst offenders I have ever come across is one of those little switcher buck converters that plugs into the cigarette lighter or auxiliary power jack in your car, and it was a really nice one triple output 4.6 amp unit. I didn't realize it was the problem at first but I was sometimes having trouble receiving my favorite Christan radio station, and not AM but FM, and a local station at that. And it seemed to be random, it would be there and then suddenly disappear. Well one day I had gone somewhere a short distance from home, I was not in my truck but a few minutes, and when I went to get out, for some reason I unplugged my phone before turning off the truck radio and most of the interference instantly disappeared so I pulled that buck conver out of the auxiliary power jack, and all the interference instantly disappeared, and I had a full quieting signal. So yes some of those things are noisy all the way up into at least the VHF band's and maybe even further. One of these days I will have a look at it with a spectrum analyzer, and just see where all it is visibly trashing the spectrum.
@AndreyK415
@AndreyK415 4 жыл бұрын
Is the Thermocouple in a TO220 package at the end of the heatsink, flapping in the breeze, measuring the output air temperature?
@danielmelendrez1616
@danielmelendrez1616 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, that's an IRF something meaning that it's more likely to be a MOSFET. However, they might be measuring temperature using that one. A bit overkill and unnecessary but who knows, Chinese wisdom maybe?
@flo_neke
@flo_neke 4 жыл бұрын
chinesium is strong in this one
@landspide
@landspide 4 жыл бұрын
top quality, only the best.
@jaywenden1939
@jaywenden1939 2 жыл бұрын
Best element on Isaac Newton table, stuper strong, many reliable
@therealb888
@therealb888 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂 😂
@mcintoda9
@mcintoda9 4 жыл бұрын
As a cheap load you can take some coated magnet wire and dunk it in a bucket of water. I’ve done this with kW loads
@bashaaksema94
@bashaaksema94 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 4 жыл бұрын
That works much better with AC sources since it won't corrode the wire so much.
@tullgutten
@tullgutten 4 жыл бұрын
@@userPrehistoricman coated wires dont give a shit about water, ac or dc 😜
@TomashPL58
@TomashPL58 4 жыл бұрын
U're right. But where is he going to get
@ronmuller9899
@ronmuller9899 4 жыл бұрын
For testing higher loads, you could use a string of SLA batteries in series for the DC input supply, plenty of current on tap. Just 4 of them from a typical UPS will give you 48V.
@StrongOneX
@StrongOneX 4 жыл бұрын
The erase of the part numbers on the chip, the markings look interesting, could it be done with a pulsed laser beam? Looks like little dots with some tiny overlapping.
@leisergeist
@leisergeist 4 жыл бұрын
Thought so
@pyromen321
@pyromen321 4 жыл бұрын
Ah! This must be it! I was puzzling over how the hell they could make a quick and easily-automatable scrubbing method that would end up looking like that.
@JerryBiehler
@JerryBiehler 4 жыл бұрын
They probably use a galvo steered beam from something like a fiber laser. Set up a fixture to register the board, program the size and location of the chips and fire away.Beats getting out a dremel.
@Dr.LaserBeam
@Dr.LaserBeam 4 жыл бұрын
It is lasered off. Seems to be a small pulsed qswitched (most likely about 10-100ns) high rep rate laser.
@StrongOneX
@StrongOneX 4 жыл бұрын
Pew pew pew
@ruslanzalata
@ruslanzalata 4 жыл бұрын
Dave, please, test these two devices for max load. I understand that won't be easy, but possible. At least you can connect a number of your PSUs outputs in series to achieve higher voltage to supply DUT, then load it with some ballast resistor (nichrome wire wound). Thanks.
@Kris_M
@Kris_M 4 жыл бұрын
43:45 So it blows the hot air towards the caps? Nice!
@Strawberrymaker
@Strawberrymaker 4 жыл бұрын
The active chips look more "lasered" than "milled". You can see the individual circles by the laser
@AngeEinstein
@AngeEinstein 4 жыл бұрын
Why would they even do that?
@davecc0000
@davecc0000 4 жыл бұрын
1. To put off competitive Chinese that want to steal the design. 2. So you can’t fix it.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is laser engraving. There are many reasons to obscure the components. The devices are not designed to be serviced, so there is not a huge impact for consumers.
@gamerpaddy
@gamerpaddy 4 жыл бұрын
the wireless modules are standard NRF24L01 2.4ghz modules
@th3maz1ngwotchannel10
@th3maz1ngwotchannel10 4 жыл бұрын
They look fake with that black blob.
@ovalwingnut
@ovalwingnut 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciated the video retaining the UPs & DOWNs... it is real life after all. Good on you. 👍😎
@curbelix
@curbelix 4 жыл бұрын
You should have increased the Hameg output voltage by a bit as you will have less than the 20V at the Juntek input because of the cable voltage drop.
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 4 жыл бұрын
That top to bottom Via stitching is probably significantly helping reduce the resistive losses, because the vias are filled with solder and hence can carry current laterally ie across their diameter! So instead of the current just flowing through the top and bottom layer copper, it can also flow inplane across each via, and as the via's are very close together, they will act as a reasonable, "conductor" of some equivalent thickness to the pcb itself (1.6mm) rather than just the thicknesses of the top and bottom traces (~ 0.07mm for 2x 1Oz layers)
@qwertyasdf66
@qwertyasdf66 4 жыл бұрын
32:32 I've tried on multiple occasions and have been unable to find cheap knobs without markers (mainly for use with rotary encoders) on eBay or aliexpress.
@Rob2
@Rob2 4 жыл бұрын
It is a but unfortunate that these (and other similar) "power supplies" really are just DC-DC converters. To have a lab power supply, it would be favorable when they had a 230V AC input and isolation. I know I can order a separate fixed switchmode supply for 60V or similar but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a cheap lab power supply. Hopefully one time they bring out boxes with AC input (and of course with the required safety).
@lukahierl9857
@lukahierl9857 4 жыл бұрын
I use my dps5015 (50V at 15A) Power by my old arc welder transformer and a smaller transformer to drop the primary voltage to the main transformer. But the transformer from the welder has no built in magnetic shunt, so baisicly a normal transformer just a huge ~1500W one.
@MrSnoots
@MrSnoots 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it'd be great to use the ready supply of AC at these power levels. You're not going to find an old laptop/pc power supply putting out 2kW. Maybe rip the transformer out of a microwave, but then you're getting sketchy as. For a "lab" power supply I'd rather something that's reliable, linear and self-contained. But I rarely need >100W
@23RaySan
@23RaySan 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSnoots you probably dont want to do this. those transformers are designed to be "lossy" and you have to hack in somehow a new secondary. finding a transformer which does 2KW can be a tricky task. but im still not fully convinced that it can handle the 2 kW anyway. maybe more 2 chinese kW
@lukahierl9857
@lukahierl9857 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Slackware bur rewind the secondarys or you will get a "very shocking" experience. But still they are only in the 500W range.
@mattmoreira210
@mattmoreira210 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukahierl9857 Shocking indeed! More like a shocking and skin-burning experience.
@Sqeezerful
@Sqeezerful 4 жыл бұрын
3:30 e.g. stepper driver (CNC) are in this range
@funkymcmonkey187
@funkymcmonkey187 4 жыл бұрын
Old telecom rectifiers is the first thing that comes to mind to feed these little units. Not a problem finding something that can pump out a few KW!
@JAKOB1977
@JAKOB1977 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive, particularly with that wifi toggle box included but I reckon an AC to DC converter that could play along at those power-altitudes, would take it to a completely another price ballpark.
@charmio
@charmio 4 жыл бұрын
Dave, pretty please with ice cream, cherries and frosting on top; Give it the beans, FULL POWAAAA! This would be perfect for a parralel resonance induction heating project for small parts I'm working on. It would be absolutely perfect if it works but as cheap as it is, it's still a good bit of money in the current climate (cough!) and I'd hate to be waiting around for 40 days (the stated max delivery time) only to find out it doesn't work. -Charlie, a fan on the other side of the of the boarder lock down
@phenyl22
@phenyl22 4 жыл бұрын
At 23:00 one can see about 130-140 W on the R&S power supply, when 100 W are being pulled from the Juntek. That's
@krissolshaq4934
@krissolshaq4934 4 жыл бұрын
96V is often a nominal voltage for train equipment. We use these HV PSUs for powering DUTs
@lawrencelederer5060
@lawrencelederer5060 4 жыл бұрын
90 Vdc was also used for the old "farm" tube radio receivers from the 1940"s that used a 90 Vdc power supplies.
@Rx7man
@Rx7man 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of fairly high power audio amps have quite high voltage rails, I think a Sansui 9090 has +/-75VDC rails
@christopherguy1217
@christopherguy1217 4 жыл бұрын
I would think you could use the higher voltages for working with strings of LEDs which can run in the 90v range.
@rockrl98
@rockrl98 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the cooling, I'd say those are peak numbers, also, a set od high performance RC batteries shouldnt have a problem with few kWs
@helmuthschultes9243
@helmuthschultes9243 4 жыл бұрын
Should test the dynamic response of the power supplies, say 2A to 20A at 1KHz.
@pharaohxgaming
@pharaohxgaming 4 жыл бұрын
Would reducing the size of the output capacitor just reduce the amount of current that can be shoved into your load at once? Or would that cause other issues? I own the DPM8624 and now I'm wondering if I should try to do something to help keep the noise down at the output?
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 4 жыл бұрын
The interface on the remote box is very similar to the RuiDeng (RD Tech) stuff
@CaptainDangeax
@CaptainDangeax 4 жыл бұрын
At 39:30 Dave plugged the RS485 terminal unevenly, I can't wait to see the brick fail when power applied
@englishrupe01
@englishrupe01 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, i saw that too
@stevenhoneyman
@stevenhoneyman 4 жыл бұрын
Mikeselectricstuff did a “dummy load in a bucket” video some time ago. I really want to see if these things can handle what they claim or if they explode/catch fire!
@MM-lv8ib
@MM-lv8ib 4 жыл бұрын
They work good! Heathkit now MFJ has been making 50ohm transmitter load for years. These units are set in oil.
@mycosys
@mycosys Жыл бұрын
halogen globes work well for plain ol DC
@stargasm1000
@stargasm1000 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way you analyze this equipment. You get what you pay for.
@MattAtHazmat
@MattAtHazmat 4 жыл бұрын
For Titanium anodization, the color is set by the voltage, blue is down around 20V, green is around 100V
@vovetsno1
@vovetsno1 4 жыл бұрын
Dave becomes lazy, he had all the equipment to test dropout voltage. Two minute test. I liked his videos for their entertainment _and_ educational value. That last point gradually diminishes. Then what, unboxing videos? Yes, I'm a little grumpy now. :)
@4BoltClevo
@4BoltClevo 4 жыл бұрын
Is that meant to be JunkTek?
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 4 жыл бұрын
Those exact words kept running through my mind, every time I seen it!
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Junket
@sw6188
@sw6188 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought it said when I first looked at them!
@aneeshprasobhan
@aneeshprasobhan 4 жыл бұрын
no u
@lukahierl9857
@lukahierl9857 4 жыл бұрын
It turnes your tech to junk when IT crashes
@Muny
@Muny 4 жыл бұрын
The weirdness you were having seems like it could be from the voltage drop across your input wires. The voltage that ends up at the input is likely less than the minimum input voltage of 20V. How about re-doing some of your tests, but feeding it say 30V or more from your supply?
@medienmond
@medienmond 4 жыл бұрын
Hook up some lead acid batteries in series, that should provide the needed umpf...
@reinardharmse4375
@reinardharmse4375 4 жыл бұрын
Deep cycle batteries would do the job quite well enough...
@leothecrafter4808
@leothecrafter4808 4 жыл бұрын
I know that you sometimes need high voltage for laser diode banks or even normal big LEDs
@gwhizz5878
@gwhizz5878 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. I could not read the SSD on the unit as the background LEDS were same as the active LEDS.
@serenerebel1983
@serenerebel1983 4 жыл бұрын
110v is a common voltage used in substations and switchgear automation in most countries
@bluerizlagirl
@bluerizlagirl 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like exactly the kind of thing I was thinking I might have to design from scratch, for charging a 48V battery bank with current limiting depending how much power is available from a Solar inverter, so I can be sure not to take a single Joule from the mains. Well, it would if it worked.
@amateurtech736
@amateurtech736 4 жыл бұрын
0-50 amps.... Anyone after a welder😂
@philipashmore
@philipashmore 4 жыл бұрын
But not with high frequency start!
@mikewillis1592
@mikewillis1592 4 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder when a 105V input supply has a 100V rated capacitor across it/s input. I know they survive modest overload but that's not good practice surely?
@ruslanzalata
@ruslanzalata 4 жыл бұрын
IRFP4110PBF MOSFETs used in these DC/DCs are also 100V rated. ;)
@absurdengineering
@absurdengineering 3 жыл бұрын
They are not rated for how long they need to operate at 100V. I guess three seconds is long enough? 😂
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the new boost converters. 50v 20amp input. 120v out.
@Golem386
@Golem386 4 жыл бұрын
With 0-96V you can do DC input supply testing for AC power supplies. Often you need to adjust some parameters or resistors during power supply development. And it's really handy to do most of those adjustments with a DC source, since it's much easier to get a clean view on the scope with DC. Many power supply ICs made for 220V mains only start up at ~70 V (UVLO). So 0-60V won't do.
@tbos
@tbos 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the older Synrad CO2 laser RF units run at 96V. ARF1500 FETs, very fun to play with.
@DEADB33F
@DEADB33F 4 жыл бұрын
It's not super common but 90V is sometimes used in CNC stepper motors. Although normally you wouldn't need an adjustable power supply for that.
@gblargg
@gblargg 4 жыл бұрын
19:30 Still not as bad as a Hakko soldering iron with digital interface. Two buttons.
@pyromen321
@pyromen321 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, they could have done everything with one button but were super generous and decided to give double the necessary buttons.
@hikariyouk
@hikariyouk 4 жыл бұрын
That is the one thing I do not like about my Hakko; it has to be some of the worst UX design I've come across recently.
@absurdengineering
@absurdengineering 3 жыл бұрын
My first test for a power supply with maximum rated output voltage above 12V is to take it *straight* out of the box, take my #4 jumper wires with banana plugs or fork terminals (got both), and use those to hook up the output to my car’s battery. If some magic smoke escapes or if it doesn’t power up after that - I put it nicely right back in the box and ship it back. There were a couple HP supplies a while ago that didn’t pass that test, sadly. Can’t remember the model, sorry. This may sound like an arbitrary test but I really had very few problems with the models that were immune to being back driven from a source with a couple hundred amps of short circuit current capacity. It was my Hogwarts sorting hat for power supplies.
@datamedic
@datamedic Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see spectrum analyzer measurements, both conducted and radiated, as these supplies are often great RFI generators.
@morarmihai4881
@morarmihai4881 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. The wireless module is a nrf24l01. I had a couple of them from ebay.
@whatthefunction9140
@whatthefunction9140 4 жыл бұрын
I'm all stocked up on power. Thanks
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 4 жыл бұрын
Could the thermal probe be under the heatsink? I see a couple of solder points on the bottom of the PCB.
@tscherenkov9461
@tscherenkov9461 4 жыл бұрын
If you only need one fixed voltage there are very cheap and powerful converters on ebay. I got one of these 1800W 40A boost converters for 20$. Works great if you want to boost your battery voltage of your Ebike. Barely gets warm with my 700 W motor load.
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 жыл бұрын
96V at 10 amps is what my ALC 60x Ar-Ion laser needs. Nice to see this available.
@Zenodilodon
@Zenodilodon 4 жыл бұрын
Nvm.... these things should be as far away from a laser as possible...
@jeffescortlx
@jeffescortlx 4 жыл бұрын
If you need to control a lot of current it's a good value. Non-isolated design isn't critical since the power supply that is running it should take care of the mains isolation.
@flecom5309
@flecom5309 4 жыл бұрын
over here in the USofA you could probably get away with using a decently large auto-transformer to drop the mains and rectify it to get ~110VDC... only issue would be input/output would be mains referenced and not isolated in any way
@michaeltucker8645
@michaeltucker8645 4 жыл бұрын
You can use a transformer n rectifier set up from a treadmill. They use 130v dc motors. That could easily supply any of these the mains ac/dc power at decent amperage.
@akdenyer
@akdenyer 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, where do you get the money to buy all these expensive pieces of test equipment. Acquired of a long time or supplied for review?
@shengruizhang6476
@shengruizhang6476 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell it is Chinese whenever there is a"technical parameters", seems like nobody can get this translate to the more common technical specifications
@leisergeist
@leisergeist 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Ibput voltage, personally
@andrelange9877
@andrelange9877 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell it's Chinese if you end up buying it after watching KZfaq.
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the "Operationg Instructions." That's another common translation error I see in a lot of products.
@tahustvedt
@tahustvedt 4 жыл бұрын
RC electric ducted fan jet models can have up to 89 V nominal battery voltage (24S). 12S (44,4 V nominal) is very common. My big jets are 4 to 5,5 kW power at full throttle. I've wanted a cheap PSU for testing for a while.
@randylenart9674
@randylenart9674 2 жыл бұрын
Always a good review 👍
@PhysicsDude55
@PhysicsDude55 4 жыл бұрын
One use for higher voltage supplies is relatively high watt LED fixtures will use 70-90 volts at 270-350ma to power a bunch of LEDs in series. I've wanted to test some lights where the LED Driver has gone bad, but the LEDs won't light up at 30v (highest voltage of my current lap power supply). Something that can go to 90v would be useful.
@marcseclecticstuff9497
@marcseclecticstuff9497 4 жыл бұрын
You can send one of them to me in the states and I'll put it thru its paces. I have 2 higher power capable supplies, one 60V/50A @ 2500W max. and one 20v/115A 2800W max., both running off 240vac single phase. The 2500W is rated for 3KW but only when running off 3-phase power. I have a Transistor Devices electronic load that will do 600V/400A @ 4000W! You can pick up 48v server supplies off Fleabay relatively inexpensively which would be a great way of powering one of these supplies (regulators).
@leisergeist
@leisergeist 4 жыл бұрын
Damn! That electronic load must be enormous
@Jimmeh_B
@Jimmeh_B 4 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite problem. I own a 20.5 + 20.5 Vac 30 +30 amp iron core transformer and all the filtering capacitors and rectifiers... A linear regulator would be an insane waste of power!
@FJL4215
@FJL4215 4 жыл бұрын
The constant power mode of the electronic load is much more useful if you set its current limit (now 70A) below the current limit of the power supply under test. Otherwise it will "do the dance" because the load current increases as the voltage decreases.
@rogerorchard2317
@rogerorchard2317 4 жыл бұрын
The CPCI 3 rack I was using was -96V and lets of amps
@Christian-ti7wh
@Christian-ti7wh 4 жыл бұрын
Did you test the actual dropout voltage at full current? Might be worth to.
@johnwick7175
@johnwick7175 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video where you sort out that switching noise on the output :P
@Dr.LaserBeam
@Dr.LaserBeam 4 жыл бұрын
Well, 96V which is 2x48V - a very common voltage for power supplies nowadays.
@1kuhny
@1kuhny 4 жыл бұрын
Personally using relatively higher voltages for laser diode pulse drivers. Need voltages of 60-120V DC.
@chrisbauer1925
@chrisbauer1925 4 жыл бұрын
The high voltage could also be useful for driving high power audio amplifiers.
@yoksel99
@yoksel99 4 жыл бұрын
I have a smaller version of this called DPM 8608, 60V 8A, paid about $40. Coupled with a beefy 200W 20V power supply brick from some old gaming laptop, it makes a good car battery charger.
@ElektronikLabor
@ElektronikLabor 4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering who the customers are for that converters. I can't imagine any industrial field of application where I would install them
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves 4 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting to see what color that bench mat will change to next. Brown?
@kingjamez80
@kingjamez80 4 жыл бұрын
Anodizing titanium is a good use of precise higher DC voltages.
@ivic1112
@ivic1112 4 жыл бұрын
Could these be modded to include remote sensing wires, at least get the positive wire to be remote?
@borisvalkov1893
@borisvalkov1893 4 жыл бұрын
once i got a 10 pound power supply off ebay and it was 18v 12a and if you wanted to pull 10 amps from it you needed to ramp up the current from 3 amps and it had one of those annoying potentiometers where you need a screw driver to operate it.
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 3 жыл бұрын
I made mine from ATX 400W PSU, plug board interface and chinesium buck-booster.. Has worked just fine, i did change the caps as the original did already blow up, about 3 years of quite frequent use.. which was no surprise, i was waiting for it to happen and had replacements ready. I added USB charger to it to get USB power output.
@ctrlaltdel02
@ctrlaltdel02 4 жыл бұрын
I guess having those caps on output big, isn't such an issue, afterall, you would not buy 2k output capable power supply, to run at 1A or something like that
@avejst
@avejst 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive powersupply Thanks for sharing 👍😁
@TheAussieRepairGuy
@TheAussieRepairGuy 4 жыл бұрын
16:02 - almost looks like laser pulses were used to erase the chip faces. would make sense as it would be a rapid process to erase an entire board in a few seconds.
@samipetri
@samipetri 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, there is fw updates for DL3021 series, overshort problems etc... We had problems one test device at DL3021 overshorting. Rigol send whole new unit and it was B revision.
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw 4 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see some stepped down and rectified mains into this and output to a big heater element to really test it. :D You should invest in a high capacity variac. :D
@jaygee6447
@jaygee6447 4 жыл бұрын
High voltage useful for selecting different colours when anodising titanium
@SuraLeo
@SuraLeo 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up the 5 amp model few weeks ago, can't seem to get it to talk with the computer program, anyone have the same problem.
@cowasakiElectronics
@cowasakiElectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Could I use two of either to get split voltage -V/0/+V so ground on one connected to V+ on the other giving the three outputs?
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the question if it can provide the output power. The question is for how long.
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertc1161 not only Chinese products. Just something that applies to everything that has to dissipate heat
@mad_hatty
@mad_hatty 4 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for a good component organizer? Ive been using a fairly small one for a while and I have too much stuff and not enough storage.
@zorrosigiloso5280
@zorrosigiloso5280 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of components? Stuff like capacitors?
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen those black blob RF boards. In fact i have a bunch. The ones i have are nRF24L01 wire protocol compatible and similar RF protocol but not compatible due to differences in padding. So almost like they were aiming for compatibility and just missed narrowly.
@davidblarstron767
@davidblarstron767 4 жыл бұрын
lol , I read "$70 200 Power suply"! Was a bit confused at the begening because i expected a masive high end piece of gear!
@Ra-zor
@Ra-zor 4 жыл бұрын
Notice the wire link bodged around the back of the blue cap (c12) to the right of HD2!
@neur303
@neur303 4 жыл бұрын
What about a "cable in the water bucket" - load? It's not very comfortable, but easy to realise and probably good enough for one-off demonstration purposes.
@hisnameisrentoo
@hisnameisrentoo 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he reminds me so much of Junkrat.
@sebraecha
@sebraecha 4 жыл бұрын
Well there's a lot of affordable 3000W server PSUs you can find online (48V 62A) at about US$70 to mess around a bit haha
@fzigunov
@fzigunov 4 жыл бұрын
junktek - WHAT A NAME!
@ruslanzalata
@ruslanzalata 4 жыл бұрын
Incredibly promising! :)
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 4 жыл бұрын
Very much like the very tasty very old desert.
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 4 жыл бұрын
Very much like the very tasty very old desert.
@Chris_Grossman
@Chris_Grossman 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with all of these switching power modules is that they don't convert from the AC line, but require a high power DC input. Without a converter from the line they are useless as a bench supply.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can't think of any path to an isolated DC supply of that magnitude that doesn't at least double the cost. Even something like a few car batteries or used server power supplies in series add up. Still probably a screaming deal, but you have to keep in mind the price of a usable assembly here, not just the core component.
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