"She skinned puppies for a fur coat, but hey, she have gays and blacks friends so she's good" -Disney writers

Cruella is not someone who _loves puppies,_ 👏 she's an *IDEA.*

*101 Dalmatians 1961* _~70 min_ *101 Dalmatians 1996* _~100 min_ *Cruella* _~2h_ *Cruella Snyder Cut* _~2h 30 min_ *Das Coat Directers Cut* _~4h_

2 minutes into Cruella and we already have... -Dumb hair. -"Cruella 'Solo.' " -Mother sympathy bait. -"i'M nOt LiKe ThE oThEr gIrLs!!!" -Token Black. -"i'M a WoMaN!!!!" -Strong independent Mary sue... -"yOu CaN't FiRe Me, i qUiT..." -"iTs HaRd BeInG a GeNiUs..." *Why are we still here... Just to suffer...*

Fun fact: The reason Roger was rubbing the pup was because puppies need stimulation to start breathing. Usually the mother stimulates her puppies by licking them clean. I can only assume she was too busy with the others to get to this one. I've watched vets help deliver puppies and the first thing they do after getting them out is rub them down with a towel and get to rubbin'. They also use other stimulation tricks, like plastic gloves full of warm water to set them on, poking gently at their mouths to stimulate a want for nourishment, and gently patting.

So I just feel the need to mention a nuance that 'Cruella' clearly doesn't get. Cruella De Vil doesn't hate dogs. She doesn't fucking care. She is rich and entitled and views everything and everyone else as beneath her. She is privileged and has clearly been that way for a long time. Case in point, watch the scene where she tries to buy the puppies and see how long it takes her to even register that she is being told no. This is entirely incongruent with her portrayal in 'Cruella'.

I disagree fundamentally with the idea that the experience of suffering is enough to justify inflicting suffering on others. It's a completely wrong, evil and poisonous idea that can only lead to- you guessed it- more suffering. Why the hell are we making stories which teach that idea? We should teach people to break the cycle and work toward a world where no one else has to suffer like they did. Teach actual empathy instead of cruelty. Stories matter. Movies like this are legitimately an indication of cultural rot and decay.

44:29 Honestly tho, Rags is right; drop a freaking like for this hero cat. What makes this scene all the more powerful is that the cat clearly fears for himself and is terrified knowing he’s gonna be killed first; but in spite of that, he keeps the puppies back because more than his fear of getting killed, he fears the deaths of the puppies MORE. It shows that you don’t have to be a brave person to do the right thing when it counts. “Courage is holding off fear for just one second longer.”

I can't wait for Disney's next movie about a struggling Austrian Painter, whose father is tragically knocked off a cliff by three Jewish Dalmatians, leading to the painter moving to Germany to seek a new career...

Instead of Cruella dying her hair as a fashion statement: _"NOPE she was born that way"_ Cruella killing animals because of their luxurious fur: _"NOPE dalmatians killed her mother by pushing her off a cliff"_ Becoming rich and powerful because of her success (which in return corrupted her): _"Durr.... she was actually the daughter of a Baroness and everything now belongs to her"_ Disney just don't give a sh*t.

Baroness: "What's your name?" Cruella: "Cruella." Baroness: "Cruella what? Who are your people?" Cruella: "I don't have people. My only friend is the devil" Baroness: "Devil"

Really excited for the Beauty and the Beast Gaston prequel where we learn that furries killed his mom

I swear, the side characters in an animated movie from the 60's have more charm and personality in a few seconds than some main characters today have in their entire runtime.

Mauler and Rags wonder why the Cruella film didn't spend more time developing her talent and relationship with fashion, showing how she uses it to express herself, and why it's a vital part of her character. They just aren't getting how bad the subversion has gotten. Cruella is too much of a Kween for all of that. Remember: she's a genius. She doesn't *need* fashion. Fashion *needs* her. Everyone just has to get out of her way so she can rightfully reign, because she's the bestest and the smartest.

I despise this trend in writing where whenever the want to do a sympathetic Villain Backstory, it’s done by making the heroes or characters associated with them assholes. This isn’t adding nuance it’s just retconning for cheap sympathy.

EFAP watching classic Disney movies is wholesome af I’m almost kind of looking forward to future remakes now, just so I can see the bois go back and watch the originals

"Poison them. Drown them. Bash them on the head. I don't CARE how you kill the little beasts just DO IT and DO IT *NOW!!"* -- 2021 Disney Heroine

Rags' anguished cries of "DOGS ARE REAL! I'VE SEEN THEM!" is such a mood.

I miss just having villains be "delightfully wicked "... Cruella, Ursula, Malificent, Jafar.... all the were so evil and LOVED IT! They were so much fun to watch.

I can't wait for Darksied's tragic backstory where his parents were killed by the dark side of the moon

imagine the next Disney movie being the story of a movie company owner who had his mother pushed off a cliff by 3 good writers, making him hate competent scripts and good movies

The biggest crime was the lack of Sergeant Tibbs. He was the mvp of the 60s movie

The three fairies are Pistolwhip, Brass knuckle, and Club

1961 version: 11:44 1996 version: 59:30 Cruella: 1:56:29

Meet Skinner, he's the man who can skin anything in the world.

In like a 3 minute scene she blows smoke in people's faces, puts a cigarette out in a cupcake, and ashes her cigarette in a cup of tea in a British household. That's gotta be some speedrunning record for fracturing cigarette ettiquette.

Joker, made by disney: *Society pushed Arthurs mom of a cliff*

"Here's a phone, call someone who cares." *9* *1* *1* "Gimme that!" I need to watch the Simpsons again, it's literally been nearly two decades.

The ONLY upside to the new Disney movies is that they make the originals standout more for their quality. RIP the old days of quality 2D animated movies.

They say whenever JlongBone laughs, those who hear it have their life force strengthened

Films as of late do not understand that you don’t need to like a character in order to be invested in them. Lou Bloom from “Nightcrawler” isn’t a character that you need to feel bad for. But his motivation and aspirations are understandable. There’s a lot of reasons why a character can be compelling to watch even if they’re morally reprehensible. But for some reason late writers seem to think it’s all about liking the character. And no matter how hard you try be it with Gabby Gabby, Abby, or Cruella I simply do not like these horrible characters no matter how many zebras they save or how many parents were pushed off a cliff.

"Aren't Dalmations typically very friendly dogs?" Yes, Dalmations are quite friendly and loyal and intelligent, but with the right training, they can be VERY aggressive when protecting. They were originally used to guard convoys on long journeys. So the fact that the Dalmations are aggressive isn't really a problem. Still funny that they dropkicked her off the cliff though.

I miss when Disney actually put some effort into their films like the original Dalmatians, we’ll never see an era like that again.

Can’t wait for the story of the Hunter who killed Bambi’s mom.

Seeing CGI dogs pushing Cruella's mom off a cliff is already one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life, but the thought that while she was falling to her death screaming her last thought must've been "I'm gonna die in a few seconds because some dogs pushed me off a cliff" makes it a million times funnier 🤣🐕

“Why are movies so long these days.” The quote “If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter,” comes to mind. It’s because it’s easy to ramble, but difficult to be concise.

"We were kinda hoping that people forgot Cruella skins dogs to make coats."

If the Cruella film is a prequel, how did Anneta and Roger go from Asian and black into a white British and American? Lol

I love how Disney looked at the original movie and saw everything this woman did, and was like, "This bitch just wanted a coat. She ain't so bad."

It's so tragic to see them go from wholesome 60s animation watching to a goofy live action to grunting like they're being stabbed in the gut right at the start of the last movie.

Can't wait to see Cruella's mother's sympathetic backstory in 20 years. Actually, I'll give it 10 years given how quickly Disney is running out of ideas.

Basically every version of Cruella: OG cartoon-One of the most despicable, and famous animated villains of all time 90s reboot- Over-the-top psycho that devours the scenery like a McDoanld’s buffet. 2021 prequel- Shitty Joker knock-off made to pander to the same stan crowd that thought BOP was a unique and brilliant film.

If the Dalmatians didn’t kill Cruella’s mom they would have been melted

Joker: commits multiple murders, including his own mother, and inadvertently sparks a class war that throws Gotham City into chaos. Gets arrested and then murders ANOTHER person in order to escape. Cruella: steals shit for many years, kidnaps a couple dogs, gets a murderer sent to prison for a different (attempted) murder. Gets away not only scott-free but also with all the shit the person she sent to prison has.

Cruella was more of a clown movie than Joker.

I swear, if Disney makes a cgi version of Robin hood, I'm going to throw a table.

OG Dalmatians: a wholesome and fun experience 1996 Dalmatians: an interesting experience 2021 Cruella: fucking why……………………experience

so... the first one was a cartoon with a wholesome story and mortifying villain (a legend from Disney's vault). The film was short and sweet and perfectly mixed in comedy, tension, and character. Roger was a man who stood up to the devil, Pongo was a unyielding father, and Cruella de Vil was unashamed of herself or her actions. No life was more precious than her passion for fashion, according to de Vil, and along with Jasper and Horace (the GOAT of Disney evil henchmen), functioned perfectly as an omen of death for Pongo's family. You read that right, de Vil embodies the very nightmares a father is expected to stand firmly against. Themes aside, the movie was good. The second was a product of its time with influences from Mouse Trap, Home Alone, and The Three Stooges. They decided to drop the original story's more heavy bits like de Vil being a living memento mori and instead went full slapstick comedy and it had no remorse for it. It knew from beginning to end that this movie was a popcorn flick you watch with your kids after you flip through Netflix for a while and at the time Netflix wasn't even a thing! Finally you have Cruella, where they decide to give her a character overhaul almost on par with Maleficent's character rework. Say what you want about Mal's rework, but she definitely held the audience's attention. With the power at her disposal, I was always interested in what she was gonna do next to turn the kingdom on its head. Moreover, she was absolutely a villain (don't mess with kids), but she does have a legitimate arc in her story. Cruella's arc, if you can call it that, seems a bit off. In Joker, Arthur Fleck started as a humble clown and ended as a feckless monster. Cruella starts off enjoying malice and even resorts to thievery as Stella (is that the name?) and as Cruella she's just a thief with more money. Also, the writing sets this universe up to be a bigger cartoon than the previous films! You have the mother perish at the hands of Dalmatians; you are not on the same level as JOKER, or even Maleficent, a movie that openly admits that it is a fantastic world.

Can't wait for Disney's "Adolf" where they explore Hitler's tragic backstory.

Cruella was one monologue about her tough life away from being Alice.

Cruela pitch meeting "What's your music budget? double it." " I didnt even say a number." Then triple that, this is going to cost a fortune."

A great detail from the first movie is that after Pongo brushes the road clean, Cruella still spots the tracks leading away and figures out where they are going. It supports two things; one, accountability for tracks being an obvious problem the dogs need to solve, and two, that Cruella is actually intelligent which adds to her intimidation as a villain. Modern films rarely account for this; the villain will almost always be dumbed down to the point of idiocy in order to prop up the protagonist, and basic problems like covering your tracks will either never be mentioned or explained by "they simply forgot".

I don’t know what the worst twist of the last film is... that the Baroness is Cruella’s real mother... or that Anita’s and Rogers’s dogs are the children of the dogs who murdered her adopted mom...

Know what we REALLY need? An origin story for those 3 dalmatians who killed Cruella's mom...

I’m glad EFAP is taking the lead on these awful films so I can laugh at them for free. Thanks chaps

Dalmations are extremely friendly to people they know and timid around those they do not. Those dogs would not do well at a party setting with so many random people. They are not aggressive or violent naturally so it would take a herculean effort to make them that vicious. Also how the flying fuck are those dogs still alive?!!! They would be almost 30 human years old when the breed lives 10-12 years.

I’m absolutely terrified with what they might do to The Hunchback of Norte Dame

First rule of filming a convincing pickpocket scene: Maybe don't have the extra who is being pickpocketed actually LIFT his elbow for the actress to pull the wallet out.

I would ask why Disney keeps trying to generate sympathy for their borderline/bipolar villainesses, but then all I have to do is look at the creative team and it all makes sense.

"They're summoning the God of Dogs." Oh, that's Goliath.

"And even drunk she'll do it amazingly" thats literally batwoman!

So when a woman trips, she’s quirky. When a man trips, he’s incompetent. Seems legit

Don't worry, Jlongbone, _I_ heard your "barking" joke.

The story of _Joker_ is, "This is how Arthur Fleck became a monster." The tawdry tale _Cruella_ is trying (and failing) to tell is, "She's not a monster, she's empowered! Look, her _lit-er-al-ly_ poor mother was killed by dalmatians! It's not _her_ fault she's a monster!"

I would’ve found it more interesting if they made cruella true to her actual character, like as a child she was a manipulative bully and it only got worse as she was older, make something interesting out of that, whether it be the satisfaction out of her falling from her pedestal or something.

With newborns, you can rescusitate them by vigorously rubbing their back to stimulate their breathing reflex. It happens when they haven't completely cleared their airway.

What do you do with Pets? Drown them, ON A FARM?! -Cruello Baggins

It took over 30 years for me to realize it's 101 dalmations, because it's 99 puppies plus Pongo and Purdy.

You ever really want to get a character who combines Alice's 'BAD THINGS HAPPENED TO ME' speeches with Kate's 'I'M THE BEST, EVEN BETTER THAN BATMAN' speeches? Yeah, me neither. No one should. But Disney did.

Cruella really shows us just how morally reprehensible movies and TV shows have become. Like, Holywood has never been a nice place, but you REALLY see them drop the facade in the last few years. Like, they don't give a shit about everyone knowing how horrible they are.

When it comes to why Cruella exists, you can point to the success of Wicked. It was popular and it gave a sympathetic story to a famous villain. Disney picked up on that with Maleficent, they also did it for Frozen (The Snow Queen was originally a villain) it couldn't be any more obvious when the voice of Elsa (Idina Menzel) was originally the lead in Wicked. Now they are doing it with Cruella.

Can we get a compilation of Mauler saying something and then Rag's saying the exact same thing 2 minutes later as if it hasn't been said yet?

101 Dalmations is the original 'Rag's ruined grandma' meme.

Seems like every Disney movie that gets pumped out these days is another hundred-million-dollar episode of Batwoman. You'd think they couldn't fuck up following the instructions from the previous guy step-by-step, but they keep managing to do it.

'She did not draw that; that fast." Oh Lord, Cruella is the Evil Me.. o.-.O

These bad movies like Cruella give me the inspiration to write my own stories. Because there's no way I can make something worse than this.

Glenn Close just looks like she was having a great time with that role.

@46:15 The logo on the horse's blanket is the regimental badge of The 9th Queen's Royal Lancers, a cavalry unit in the British Army up until 1960. The sign to the property in the movie states it's the residence of retired Major General S.F. Smedley of that very unit, which explains why all his animals have a military demeanor and rank structure amongst themselves. And, of note, that you all mention the cat, "Sgt. Tibbs," deserves a medal for doing all the work. It's downright typical that he's the only enlisted rank among them.

I just realized something ; assuming Cruella is between 30 and 40 in the original movie, since it took place in 1961, she would have been born between 1920 and 1930. In 1940, she would have been between 10 and 20, and you know what happened in England around 1940 ? The fucking Blitz, meaning technically her childhood or early adulthood would have probably been impacted at a great extent by such events. Can you imagine a Disney Villain with ptsd from being deported to the countryside or having to suffer from bombings ? There's good fucking reasons to not go too deeply into caricatural villains's backstories, and the implications of the historical context behind is a good fucking one

Disney's Captain Marvel: beaks random guys hand and steals his motorcycle - Hero. Disney's Cruella: steals postman's motorcycle - a little bit mad.

Can't help but feel if the original character of Cruella had a different name and was a man they wouldn't be making a movie making them a hero. Don't mean anything overpolitical there but seriously ... I think gender doesn't make a difference when it comes to skinning puppies

Watching the scene where Pongo is crusing for a girlfriend for Rodger and all the humans look like their dogs I wonder, if logic follow's 'what does Rag's human look like?'.

I'm impressed at rags restraint in this video. I was expecting him to make milf comments about Perdita and to ruin the maid character.

"How do we make it clear our character is really evil and irredeemable?" "How about we have her say Hitler did nothing wrong and she wants to enact another holocaust?" "This is a children's movie. We can't say such horrible things." "How about we have her say 'I love the smell of near extinction'? That should work." "Perfect."

You think Disney has internal bets going on what outlandish remakes they're gonna get away with? Like they dare each other to come up with even shittier movies with even more ludicrous premises that will still make a shitload of money.

I just realized something how is Creulleia and those two guys are able to do "clever" tricks stuff in the 2021 movie but they struggle to fight against an old lady and clumsy failed to get the puppies from a cat

Let's get a live-action backstory for Gaston, where we find out he had a rotten childhood with abusive parents who shaped him into the brute we saw in Beauty and the Beast. Or one about Dr. Facilier, where we find out he grew up on the streets and sought out his "friends from the other side" when he had no one else to turn to. Or one about Clayton, where we find out his family was dirt poor and so he vowed to bring back the head of a gorilla to make his family a fortune. Or one about Ratcliffe, where we find out that all he ever wanted was to do his country proud and discovering a new country, alongside gold, was his one way to achieve that. Huh, what's that? These are all male villains, so they don't deserve any sympathy, nor re-contextualising of their actions to make them appear as misunderstood heroes? Gotcha. Edit: Disney has officially proven me wrong by giving Captain Hook the sympathetic treatment in Peter Pan & Wendy (2023). Nice to know that they're comfortable ruining their male villains as well as their female ones. 🥴

Cruella sitting on top of that child beating him to paste unable to defend himself, made me think of the Archer episode where Cyril kills a tied up disarmed guard by snapping his neck to prove a point about his authority where nobody has any reason to respect it.

2:02:35 Fringy: they couldn't get real Dalmatians? Mauler: well they couldn't get real Dalmatians to be monsters? Me: oh Disney... how lazy you've become

No you cant inherit just because the owner is jailed. owners retain rights to their property even in jail. they can assign someone to manage it in their name but I doubt she will pick Cruella. only way she could inherit is if they spin this whole "Cruella is estela" as the baroness having lost her mind after committing a murder. If she is deemed mentally unfit than someone can be assigned to manage the estate in her name and best interest. even in that case I doubt the judge will look at the situation and go "yeah the best friend of the woman she killed and her rival sounds like a perfect person for the job"

The two big missed opportunities I see with the 90s Dalmatian movie were 1, not casting Hugh Laurie as Roger (he fits the build and is great at humorous songwriting) and 2, if you're going to make mistake #1 and instead cast him as one of the henchmen, not casting Stephen Fry as the other one. Could have been an excellent opportunity to introduce Americans to some excellent British comedy, but I guess Disney thought we weren't ready for that back in the 90s.

Hook: the story of how an English explorer was molesteed by boys in green tights. Queen of hearts: A nice queen who had her pasties stolen from her and justly wanted them arrested. Hades: was bullied by his jock older brother and got given a shit job. Prince John: Struggled to live up to his father's expectations and choose to clean up the country by creating infrastructure through taxes. Frolo: Wanted to clean up Paris and make it a safe place from theives Dr Faciler: Oppressed Black man in New Orleans wanted to stick it to the evil white colonisers. Maleficent: (been done but) singled out fairy wanting to bring peace to the lands and stop the evil industrialised culture of humans. Gaston: Hero protecting the local towns from wild animals. Siamese cats: immigrants wanting to fit into western society but oppressed by stuck up locals. The coachman: wanting to help grow his business as a theme park entrepreneur and help children out of poverty. Rattigan: Intellectual who feels a system of domcratic government is better then a monarchy ruled one. Ursula: Discriminated for being overweight and just wanting to help lost souls in need from a tyrannical ruler.

Swiper the Fox needs a movie. We all say "Swiper no swiping!", but we never ask "Swiper, why swipe?"

I wish they had covered the sequel _102 Dalmatians._ That one was always my favorite of the early Disney live action movies back when they were endearing and not a quick cashgrab.

"dude I swear to god she's the Mr. X of this movie" had me rolling lmao

How did I not know Doctor House and Arthur Weasly was in the 1996 live action

One of the flaws that they never mention, is that this movie applies modern BS art ideals to pre-WW2 Europe. The art world didn’t start to get all tismy until the 1960s, and it took a while for that to bleed over to the high fashion area of the art world. What Cruella was wearing in the original is much more representative of what would have been considered high fashion at the time, not the dress equivalent of a girl who vomited on herself at a college party. The high fashion world of the early 1900s would have NEVER accepted the sh*t Cruella was making.

Even JLongBone is there! Dis is gunna be guuuuuud !!!

Amazing. We can't have anyone smoke in this movie because we don't want to encourage people to smoke but we are happy to encourage people who have been abused and mistreated, to become abusers who mistreat people to deal with it because that is somehow empowering. Nice values Disney!

The original animated 101 Dalmatians was the only Disney movie that had one of the characters actively sing the villain song to the villain’s face, without it being an extremely flattering song. It’s such a Chad move.