Beautiful and yet sad story. Effie Grey had the bravery to move out of a loveless marriage in order to make a new and ultimately happy marriage. Thank you again, Jon!

I wish the movie would have gone further than it did. Thank You for finishing her story. Elle Fanning resembled her so much too!

Wow, another historical person with whom I was not familiar. Glad that she got a second chance at happiness.

She's the reason why my opinion of John Ruskin changed forever. Love the Pre-Raphaelites, by the way. Thanx again Jon!

A 5 year moratorium so that he could get his work done? Oh yes, there's a story there. Hmmm. I can think of a handful of scenarios to explain such a request, but most of them don't reflect well on him. There's a character in Room with a View who desires to have a perfect wife but doesn't have a clue what to do with one. He loses her in the end too. Interesting tale, John.👍

I loved the movie Effie Grey with Dakota Fanning. She played that role so beautifully.

I always admired her spirit and determination. Very well done presentation!❤

Jon, taking a break from the royals; this was a FANTASTIC story! Thank you! You are one if my favorite Utubers!!!!!

What a fabulous video about a complex and fascinating woman. Much appreciated Jon! ✌

I had not heard of this lady and enjoyed your video very much thankyou

This was good. Where do you always take your ideas from? You always present us less known (at least unknown to me) personalities. Thank you and have a good week 🙏

Effie Gray is a beautiful woman! What was wrong with her in John Ruskin's eyes? I love Pre-Raphealite art but yeah I understand why John Everett Millais chose to go another direction. Thanks Jon! I look forward to the next historical figure on your channel.

Great job with the video. 👍

Never heard of her but she’s a very interesting lady. Thanks

Truly eiffe was a very remarkable lady, she lived her life of passion and art on her own terms, thank you Jon I knew nothing of effie.

There's a movie entitled 'Effie Gray' which tells the story. Ruskin appeared to be repulsed by the female body.

The Pre-Raphaelite painters made me think of someone you might want to consider for a future video: Elizabeth Siddal.

Love learning new stuff. Another great episode. Keep them coming.

Hermosa historia y espectacular video.

Most likely when they met we she was "much" younger but when they got older he most likely didn't find her attractive anymore when she became an adult 🤔

Great video. I have not heard of her before. She is a wonderful lady who makes me want to learn more about her. You always have wonderful videos that I love watching them.

Thank you Jon! I recognize most but not all so where do you find them? FASCINATING!!😊

Amazing video! As always! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

People seem to think that Ruskin was at fault but the truth is he and Effie were twp different personalities and he didn't work out.

Watching the movie now…so sad

Another person I had never heard about. The paintings and the video are beautiful.

I watched the movie recently. Way to go Effie I know it was hard for you then❤

Really enjoying the focus of women known in history.

Although the real reason for the breakdown of their marriage is irrelevant, I would say it was plain impotence; that ridiculous story of Ruskin being "disgusted" by Effie's physique sounds unbelievable and made-up by Ruskin to cover up his impotence. Thank you very much for such a nice presentation. BTW, I like your pronunciation and accent, although I am not a Brit, I would say that there is something Scottish in it, am I right? Regards!

Failure to consumate a marriage is a legitimate ground for annulment, so no big scandal except to Victorians, Ruskin sounds cruel in her story, at least she got a trip to Venice out of the deal.😊

Thank you

Bellísima música!

Enjoying this series of videos on remarkable women. I am also drawn too, and curious about, the (AI?) art.

I recall that name, as a school girl, but not the context given about her. Perhaps, in association with Millay. Thank you, Jon. I enjoyed it, though!😊

Her first husband. Was 1. Not interested in sex. 2. Wasn't attracted to her, or 3. Had issues with sex.

Ruskin sounds like an absolutely dreadful person..and Effie gray sounds like a decent lady and she looked absolutely beautiful in her portraits...wow Ruskin seems good grief...but he made his bed and lies in so as my mom would say..yet falling for jail of bait..eww tis sad and sigh.. and amazing woman amazing story.. I just discovered this channel and Definitely enjoy it..not sure if you do just UK history but I have some suggestions for stories you may like in the states..I suggest you look into Nancy ward the Pocahontas of TN and her cousin Dragging canoe very amazing Cherokee leaders and yet hardly taught about..both my kin on my old man's end..and if you like the history with old cinema.. there's a 1940s actress name Linda Darnell she's my mom's dad's second cousin anyway she's pretty fascinating and I bet your videos could do either of these peoples story's justice..but so far I really enjoy your videos.

That is not the church where Effie Grey is buried it doesn't have a graveyard. There is a small very old church just off the Dundee Road in Perth that has a graveyard where Effie is buried in an area called Rodney Gardens. The house where she lived is still standing it at one time was an old folks home but i think it's maybe now flats im not quite sure . Like Effie Gray im a Perth girl too.

Very interesting of little known lady.

After being married to Ruskin for six years, she met and fell in love with another artist. She wrote to her brother asking him how she could become "unmarried" to Ruskin. And when he found out that his sister was still a virgin he told that was her "out". He cautioned her though not to mention her plans to her husband or in laws, because he had no doubt that Ruskin would rape her to keep her with him. So after telling her husband and his parents that she was going to visit her family, she left. Her parents and brother arranged for her to examined by a reputable doctor who confirmed that Effie was a "Virgo Intacta". And that's when her family arranged for the marriage to be annulled. Of course Ruskin and his parents were outraged at being tricked and especially at the gossip that Ruskin was impotent. Ruskin tried to save face that the reason he didn't have sex with his wife was because there was something wrong with her body but nobody bought it. Fortunately the annulment went through and she was free. Ruskin was a pedophile. There was a girls school near where he lived (when he was old) and he was a frequent visitor there. Years later when the girls were grown (and he was dead) they revealed what he did to them when the head mistress and teachers left them alone with him. They said they never mentioned it earlier because they knew no one would believe them. There was an artist Kate Greenaway who was a friend of his and she would ask his advice about her work. She wrote and illustrated many books, including Robert Browning's book "The Pied Piper of Hamlin". Her illustrations of children especially of young girls are beautiful. There is an illustrater's award that is given in her name, "The Kate Greenaway Award". Well, Ruskin was quite taken with her beautiful and charming drawings. And at first everything was fine, and he gave her good advice about how to make her illustrations better. But then things took a turn. In letters that he wrote, he asked if he could have drawings of her girl child models in their shifts (i.e. slips), then he asked if he could have drawings of them in their underclothes, and then he asked for NUDE drawings of the young girls. You could almost hear the heavy breathing at the last request. But Miss Greenaway never did. I can't help but wonder what she must have thought about it. 😐

She's a real person? Never knew. I saw a movie about her.

Would love to see some American historical figures added!

He fell in love with Effie when she was 12. Later he in his 40's he fell in love with a 10 year old.

Great movie made by Emma Thompson

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What an interesting woman - I’m guessing the problem lay with with Ruskin, but who knows?

Wow so she couldn't be around the Queen because she had her marriage annulled? As in, this marriage never happened in the eyes of God? And an unconsumated marriage no less. I guess God's eyes aren't good enough for Queen Victoria. That's so crazy

This guy is 🚩🚩🚩🚩

5 years ! he was gay sorry.

I see nothing that is “fascinating “ about this woman.

A tale of passion?? They were not intimate with each other, so there was obviously no passion, here. Why in the world did she marry this man if they were not going to be intimate??! 😂🤣