Huge shoutout to Irene for providing the head needed to make this video.

The only rework SSS needs is to make it non-required gameplay-wise Move those module rewards as a weekly mission reward and make SSS rewards something like mats or skins

I think the problem with old SSS wasn't that it was too hard, it was with "stat-stick" scaling. It was just, enemies, that had more stats. That's boring. It should be enemies from different CCs or something inflicting crazy ass aoe crowd control. That's difficulty. If it's random, that's difficult. This was just bigger = harder. Which isn't true at all

To be honest I do think the ridiculous enemy stats and etcetera had its charm, and getting the medals felt like a great achievement you had to earn. But having to farm the stages like annihilation, without skip tickets, and shuffle RNG, was (is) quite frustrating. If the rewards were like IS2, with no time limit, I think it would have been fine. Also, for the record, I prefer the old Supporter A effect.

Liskarm buffed with defenders and Carnelian buffed with snipers adjacent to each other work fantastic for me. The damage Carnelian gives is delighting

sounds like someone never experienced having ground ops refusing to be pulled every stage before this

Suzuran s2 + Goldenglow s2 + tanks is my favorite combo for SSS. Its relevant and OP on every stage.

You mentioned it, but yeah if it was was optional content for masochists to enjoy then im sure old SSS would of been fine as is, but when you make it manditory for account progression every 2 weeks a certain feeling of dread sets in near every reset. Glad the change happened

I managed to clear both OG SSS stages before the rework and the highs were really high but the lows are really low. I did enjoy abusing the Passenger with Caster Buff strat with Irene and Gnosis. But I would rather farm the mode without the pressure of missing out on the medal. Then I could try out different strats just because.

Kirin lady (After module) & Mizuki are already meta in SSS since far long ago you know >.> (CN community) It is incorrect to say that you are differ from many other. ============== BeastMaster Vanguard can substitute for Caster A. ============= The painful chore in previous SSS is actually because of the lack of thought in the permit system (Draw) Basically in a card game (TCG, Poker, etc2), you draw (an RNG) to open yourself a new option, which make it fun. But because of how the old SSS works, you can't draw when you need it, ultimately, the challenge = how much retry are you willing to make. Which is really2 bad in "fun" perspective, because I know I will win, but how many retries? In Old SSS, bad RNG = retry. In New SSS, bad RNG, is somewhat tolerated given you can now get more draw and stock some draw. Also Supporter A goes from straight stupid (Previous SSS), to sometimes OK (Current version). ========== Finally, old SSS was stat-stacking foes, not to mention the stupid DEF increase, making almost all Physical dealer useless. Players are there to have some fun experimenting with fun builds, not to be locked to the meta. This is why IS is a great welcome (Tons of fun experiment and Risk & teambuilding), while SSS is not (Make players locked in Meta).

Gg n gnosis, really loves this combo. 5 speed is insane

My strategy in SSS is a very complex one, it consists in using only the few characters that i have leveled because i started the game reacently witch weirdly enough includes Goldenglow without me knowing that she is meta

Don’t you just love being part of the 1% Let me know when the next video is I’m gonna be stacking 5 vanguard A buffs on Broca

If this change already discourage you from SSS Well, you wont like the Major Rework then xD Yes, the Hard Mode is still a Far Cry from the Alpha SSS (the very first Iteration.) So, if you like challenges Better off with IS3 Ascension 15 (No joke, it is the new SSS torture)

Sss should have a endless mode

i think SSS is good now, i flawlessed it before the patch and i do think its honestly better now. It really felt like you either had to be a super whale or you had to resort to meta only, but now its good, now you can use your ops and even if they arent the crop of the creme they can win.

Your production is phenomenal you earned a sub

I had a lot of fun in pre-nerf SSS with 5 Vanguard A + Module 3 Ch'en S2. She gets a guaranteed S2 use every 9 seconds even when she does absolutely nothing, and the 500% atk modifier felt extremely juicy especially when you have a +200% ATK Skalter nearby

I knew something had changed, but I couldn't tell what it was since I don't struggle with sss once I figured out all the stages. Glebe was way too easy, but I understand why they did it. IS-2 Hard Mode is definitely a good idea if you're looking for that challenge. IS-3 is coming soon, so we won't have to wait long for a challenge though.

I think a big problem that no addresses is that for newer players you need many built units to fill an entire roster, or else you end up with many random e1 or e0 units, that can really fuck you over when you don't draw any of your actually built units. And then you can't improvise, when you mostly have filler units on your hand. It's also less fun to build your deck, because every deck you built has the same units in it, because you don't have any units to choose from to actually make a choice.

Weirdly enough, your opinion of SSS after the change was mine before the change. To me SSS has never been really difficult, difficulty isn't just making hp and defense go so high the enemies are invincible, this is just making the level longer. Not only that it's a very small amount of stages that you have to do over and over again to farm for something. There's a reason this game has an auto system. Because doing the same stage ad infinitum for materials isn't fun, so the game does it for you. I feel like SSS should've been a side mode that gives you additional mats like IS, instead of unique ones required for modules. Maybe then it would be easier to appreciate it for what it is instead of this 40 minutes long grind to get me some modules. SSS to me has always felt like if you had to manually play annihilations every time.

i get the point but sss was actually terrible for anyone that doesnt play with al lthe meta omega op or omega niche units, i mean i play the game for abt a year now and between the current saving for texas (im at 300+ pulls with op luckily) the future pulls for mlynar and eventually the monster hunter + the chong ye and lin coming soon its preety much impossible for anyone that didnt get irene or passenger for some reason to do it unless they heavily invest in some niches as 5 stars assuming they are lucky enough to have, because at the point my acc stands with a decent investment in it it has surtr, thorns mountain spalter poz fiameta hoshiguma ,silverash lumen schwarz angelina skadi, its just preety hard to cope with it considering how hard it was for people who dont have the meta units, i would say that it was oversimplified but this change is still far better for preety much any f2p or player that doesnt have all the omega meta units

Loved the video! I disagree in that I like the updated SSS. Missed S.O.S. opportunity for your intro, but I get that's not the vibe this video is going for. I love the ending credits too! Great work!

as someone who only has 4 E2s because I'm still a new player; and aiming to clear hard stages like h10-3 by getting module upgrades- fuck SSS. It's _still_ too hard after the nerf because there's no way in hell I'm getting a full squad of usable e2s off the bat. I don't think making stupidly high scaling enemies that can't be creatively defeated, nor making the process rng dependent _and_ long is good game design. It needed to die, and the nerf was deserved. That being said, there's definitely people with a fully built squad, who've probably been itching for something masochistic to do and flex, and hypergryph should've let SSS be that thing for such people. A 'normal' mode and 'hard' mode where the rewards stay the same but the difficulty varies would've been nice.

honestly the problem with the old one was how fucking tanky the enemies were, they have such an absurd amount of health and def they were practically a fuckin wall unless youre lucky enough to get a fully buffed meta operators

Whisperain is one of my favorite healers and I quickly learned the lesson @7:05 before this video. But that sound almost becomes hypnotic if you are stuck delaying in the stage for 30 minutes.

1:52 IGNITED BY BURNINGGGGGG DESIREEEEEEEEEEEE

That two bird and dog joke was so great.

I'm glad i was able to do my SSS first time clear before the nerf! It was honestly so frustrating and fun and i'm building Leizi now (i just got her few months ago) because i was so thrilled to play the mode again. Idk if i'm gonna still struggling with the nerf version because i haven't got time to play it again but i understand that veterans can feel that is not so challenging anymore. I'm still learning lot from this game but maybe one day when i have those characters and build them, i can feel the part where is not challenging anymore. Because i do love challenge too

This is the second time I’ve seen someone recommend Leizi for SSS. Well, I have her built up and haven’t used her for anything of note, so I guess it’s time to finally dust her off and see how she does with SSS.

I also think it was fun to do the first two secret medals even though i had to go through hell. And i was disappointed when i got the third secret medal on the first try 😔

I wish you the best on future endeavors.

I fucking love whisperains sfx

Currently I'm using a borrowed passenger + chalter + surtr. It works, but I'll definitely borrow a W for the next SSS

I WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

Very well made guide. This video was fun to watch and I don't even play Arknights. Thanks KZfaq recommendations.

"Because Surtr hates existence." Me too, Surtr, me too.

Whisperain with 200aspd is the asmr i want to listen all day and night

So challenging is great. New enemies awesome. Losing to RNG or the bug crash that has meant I never go beyond level six because I can handle losing to poor play not to a bug I can’t control or having to rely on good RNG every stage when I my odds get worse as I progress.

Thank you funny horse man for the video!

bro whipped out the battle cats music for this one

whisperain whispering in your ears and dreams

of course i only get reccomended this video after ive already started my own shenangians in SSS

When update come, I start playing Suspicious Sanity Starvation more often. This mode is now in my opinion playable.

Here's some hell to imagine. What if IS4 featured SSS's scaling and stacking mechanics, across the entire run. Obviously the scaling would need to be 'scaled' back to a pace that would be managable for an hour+ run, but imagine it. Imagine the *fun* it could be.

My wild picks are 3 specialist B, 2 sniper A carnelian, who does unbelievable map-clearing damage on a respectable cooldown, and five vanguard Saria, who is hilarious with s3 m3.

While I can understand your point, and indeed sometimes big stat dump is just good fun and challenge, as a newer doktah with a massive urge to check every box to completion before the deadline to get all those sweet f2p rewards,... I am glad SSS soul died and I will be dancing on its grave as I consume its dark soul for sustenance and power up the modules for my ops. No more running 3 hours doing the same first 3 maps with a borrowed GG and praying you get that bonus 1 more rare drop. Now I just run like 3 runs and done. Still cant clear 1 mine fully yet, but that is my skill issue and a bunch of ops I havent built.

i actually make a video about this since i thought no one make it. thanks for creating one 👍

yay new eha vid

My skill issue has become more apparent as I still haven't gotten a Flawless Clear even after the nerf... But I do love messing about in the earlier levels with random operators I raised way back when, let's go Flamebringer let's goooooo

the later stage (like stage 5 onward) are kinda ok and slighly fun to play I still remember getting 22 danger level on stage 4 and need to redo it like 4 more time lmao

"Validation having level her years ago". That's me there

you can stack vanguard A with blacknight, and beanstalk, (And durin if you want cheap options) question if you have 5 medic stacks and use gavial s3, is that 100% damage reduction?

the dog could not have said it better

I haven't been able to clear a single Integrated Strategies run, yet, i forced through Carrot Mine with a borrowed Goldenglow. I just enjoy the buffs and actually being able to choose instead of RNGjesus, i mean, there's still rng, but i can lie to myself

So basically Some Sussy Strategies mode now

Subscribed because yes I like the video, but more so because you used Battle Cats as BGM 😂

"Suffering with style" so Fiammetta? You can do Meta AND Suffering!

I love how this video at the same time would piss Namie off for calling GG a dog AND make her incredibly happy about the appreciation for Mizuki's armpits

i dig the battlecats bgm.

You missed the chance to name the video Some Stupid Stationary Security Service Strategies or SSSSSS for short

I can't wait to try using reed alter with caster A buffs

I wouldn’t mind SSS contingency contract mode

I wholeheartedly agree with all of this except gavial S2 is so much more fun with the range and the funny pull

Second comment here to say Gummy best bear if you disagree she will eat you

My 3-sniper and 2-caster Suzuran S2M3 is MVP in every SSS run. Everything else is optional

My meta team was only 2 ops, gg s2 and suzuran s2. And i called this team "lazy team when i dont want to play sss since its goddamn too long and unskippable"

1:37 you mean two birds and a ca... oh okay lmao. I'ma just enjoy the vid

Glebe was far easier to no fail clear. I still have yet to do it for Toron Mine, man that shit sucks

Defenitly have to try the W strat now lol

Carnelian works great in SSS

Erm... one more thing. Irene is an Inquisitor. That's mean she got the blessing from the *Emperor of Mankind.* *That's mean her gun and sword is just a Bolter and Chainsaw Sword in disguise.* ;)

30 seconds in and I just realized I could very much abuse Surtr with atkspd medics...

Eha is just a masochist confirmed

I never ever managed to finish the last stage

Old one, I maxed out at stage 6. New one, I was able to finish all 8. But I had some time to build more operators. But as a newish player, game mode is just bad for us. If you don't have the operators, you don't have it. If you don't have operators built, you don't have operators built. Since SSS got released, I was able to build some more operators but I'm still missing a lot. I still have like no support built. Can't do anything like your strategies. S1 Horn is super fun though. Anyways, at the end of the day, the worst thing about SSS is the RNG. I mean Arknights is a strategy game and majority of us don't like RNG cause it ruins our strategy. It's also why many games removed RNG factor cause it gives a poor playing experience. You can win or fail due to luck. We aren't playing against other players, so if you fail, you can just play a zillion times until the stars align and the RNG goddess is with you. This is also why the gacha goddess is not really a true RNG goddess. There are soft and hard pity.

saw video felt motivated (mistake) to play sss tried the carrot mine (easier one) failed at stage 6 as usual (average skill issue, also im aiming for first time clearing all stages for medals, probably unrealistic seeing me failing stage 6 [sometimes even stage 1] all the times, but meh) 3h wasted, return to baseline stage 4 grind (playing on tw, we still have the old system of 8 stages and had just released mlynar, before ideal city and ashring)

My favorite squad chen s1 +palas × 5guard atk x speed / skalter x5 caster Surt / warfarin vanguard x2 sniper x3 + skalter x5 caster atkup only

The way this guy say BL GAME from lingering pain(echo) event got me🤣👀

god i love mizuki i would die for him

Eha what are your thoughts on the cm mode of sss?

You know, my strat is just stack 5 40% atk on skalter and boom, it clears itself

I leveled my Greyy the Lightningbearer and I'm about to tell 50 of my friends about it

SSS may change. But War. War never changes.

My first SSS is today and wow... If Kyo shisou see me now, he would cry of joy seeing the man who follow my foot step now struggling on it's own way using the methods i teach him😊. But honestly, if you don't have certain dps... Don't even think to enter this nightmare seriously 😑🤝 My strat? *Just 3v and 1d for irene and, 3s and 2c for passenger. Just start nuking everything (p.s having stainless: congrats you just made it easier)

I had to replay the video because I was ಠ‿ಠ at the battle cats bgm

TLDR: does SSS still need tweaking? Yes, given that I was planning on waiting for Penance to complete them. Old SSS needed your ops to be massive beat sticks to get through the stages, so the changes to the overall difficulty is appreciated, though I'd argue that it still has some problems. Example: Toron Mines actually does require you to use some Plan B/Mode B for class equipment, specifically the Defender class which increases HP and DEF. Why? Because stage 6 has Enraged Possessed Soldiers making a beeline for the box, and Plan A's Block Count Plus does not do anything against base 1000 ATK that's further increased by SSS. It took me several tries with Plan A before I decided to look for ways to counter those guys and a discussion stated that stalling them works best, hence Plan B. Of course, it won't do anything if your Defender can't beat the dog rush early on, which also requires backup. I would've had leaks multiple times in that stage if I replaced Ash with someone else. The final stage with the "only 3 high ground tiles" restriction is also a pain, because if you don't have medic support then your chances of winning are low. I replaced my ops multiple times and used the Emergency Retreat thing to replace Surtr and bash the final boss. So overall I'd say that SSS still needs further tweaking. Maybe instead of just increasing every single enemy stat they'd make them take turns and add in movement and attack speed. Would be more challenging because everyone at the end would be a glass cannon, and losing an op stack would be a near complete loss for you. Overall though, after the tweaks during Dossoles rerun I managed to complete Toron Mines, and when Glebe released I completed it too. And recently I've managed to finish both Carrot and Toron Mines no leaks and no repeats, doing all of it from the start if I failed.

I enjoyed sss for it’s difficulty, hell that’s why I play ak, for achieving weird clears and doing high risk cc. I didn’t enjoy the rewards being locked behind a time gate and it felt intrusive when I just wanted the mats and didn’t give a shit for doing the mode itself. however I did enjoy the more reactionary feel towards sss since most of ak is planning rather than making the best out of a situation.

Is Bibeak actually considered meta for CCC? I've never used her in the game at all (well, except for the base combo) so I had no idea.

Healing + fiameta with max snipers . S2 Was the most troll thing Also phalax caster (carnelian) I serious Carnelian is broken She is strange But... Really can deal damage Insane damage And stall enemy on place for full duration of s2 (stack caster/vanguard in her and 1-2 snipers) I have no meta so i still can use amiya s3 m3 and , nothing now exists

mudrock with 4 vanguard a and 1 guard a is bayblade

I am meta slave with GG and Gnosis, so I had no problems with SSS before (clearing stage 8 for the first time was very satisfying) I get the complains about how it is a chore cause it is a farm mode, but idk why people are so mad about rng part? Like, if your starter deck is good, choosing decent units before each new stage won't ruin it. Maybe people just don't like picking supporters and specialists, it is a great way of managing your deck and getting core units back to hand. Sure, game can say "f u" and not give you vanguards at the start of the stage, but you are not punished for restarting. And yes, it is possible that your core unit is your last card, but that's exactly why supporters are so good.. go through your deck faster. Also relaying solely on that one unit is obviously a bad decision. Like, GG could've been my last card, and I still would've been able to get to her, while other ops held off.

i liked the old sss more the new one is way too easy hopefully when the next rework comes they add a difficulty mode that way everyone wins

oi i didnt need validation for levelling leizi...i just was being a stubborn contrarian and refusing to build ifrit or any of the other better casters

My potential 6 Irene did not dissappoint in SSS

"The changes make it way too easy" Me who hasn't beaten it once: 💀

leizi with module is more meta than gnosis imo, better than gnosis pre nerf if you have an aoe carry, i think gnosis is overrated since his multi target cc is on too high cd even with caster stacks and caster stacks means shit off skill cc. leizi with 4x sniper has 100% slow uptime on 4 targets and has decent dmg on s2. respect on mizuki, with module i like him with leizi. but horn is probably leizi's best pair if the map allows for it, s1 vanguardx5 is some of the best dps on the game mode. shamare is also heavily underrated, she basically lets you trivialise any defensive stat check, i genuinely think she's worth building with caster stacks for perma bear uptime in some cases, but usually better to build carries first so you may never get to it. sss was never going to be received well. remember for how long people wanted anni skip tickets? they finally got them and then they release an even worse grind with no auto deploy not too long after. they aren't 1-1 comparisons but they are both game modes that you have to clear often (biweekly/weekly) that require a ton of time investment, and are the only consistent source of an ingame resource with module materials. and SSS doesn't even have auto deploy lol, it's worse.and whilst module materials aren't as limited as orundum or rolls, nor are they as important to most people, hypergryph very rarely make impactful direct updates to operators and they "fix" operators via modules. so imagine you've waited for this balance patch for so long and now you have to grind this poorly balanced game mode to fix your favourite operator. if it was treated like is2, not tied to a very limited resource, have a battle pass reward system, then nobody would hate it but it would still be unpopular. i actually agree the game is a more boring post nerf, i also got both secret medals pre nerf and i first timed secret medal'd glebe mining platform too, but the truth of it is it's an unbalanced piece of shit with, on average(FUCK GRINDING FOR ENDING ENCOUNTERS), more frustrating rng than is2. the nerfs are the right thing to do imo, despite me wanting it to hurt like pre nerf. but i think sss has been given a rougher testing ground, is1 had the advantage of being time limited so the novelty never wore off and had tons of people playing for utage titty skin, sss came out as a full permanent game mode with no wider testing, and idk WTF happened in internal testing to create this abomination. i think the secret medals should never have existed, and if they did they shouldn't have an effective time limit on them, you can't get these secret medals after the next changes and they're already working on sss 2 you will never be able to get those secret medals again. they know they have fomo freaks like me it's a fucking gacha which i think makes it harder for people to accept the RNG of the game mode. i like that they made SSS, i've had really fun intense moments in it as you described, but it needed a beta test like trials of navigator and interlocking competition (pls come back). despite my flame i am looking forward to sss 2

subbed because you are funny

I think it’s been changed more than twice also how dare you call goldenglow a dog I will find you

in my case ; i was fighting with my potato phone lmao (iphone8) 3/4 force close app