Watch this if you still believe Bob Lazar: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6iUiMpizZ-8fIk.html

Can‘t believe this is already two years ago! Watched the JRE episode back then, but just found this gem 💎

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It would be incredibly exciting to believe Bob's story, but the truth is that nothing in the documentary comes close to truly collaborating his claims. Corbell makes a huge deal of the image of a hand reader, implying that it was privileged information that somehow proves Bob's authenticity. That section of the documentary HAS to be disingenuous. Identimats, as they were called, became commercially available in the 70s and it will take anyone here a few seconds to find many pictures of them online. As a matter of fact, one of the models - which you can see on the Wikipedia entry for 'hand geometry' - more closely matches Bob's description of a device with pins that you slip your fingers between. So the hand reader proves absolutely nothing except that Bob, who's clearly a geek for tech and gadgets, was somewhat more aware of biometrics than your average guy in the 1980s. I was also struck by how inconclusive the newspaper article about Bob's rocket car actually is. Sure, the article describes the hobbyist who built the car as 'a physicist who works at Los Alamos'. But that only tells us that Bob was *claiming* to be a Los Alamos physicist as early as 1982, since the writer of this silly fluff-piece presumably didn't put vast resources into researching its subject. It proves nothing. Then there's the moment when Corbell excitedly relates his conversations with the security guy who supposedly played a role in securing Bob's clearance. All we know about this is that the filmmaker, who's already shown himself to be somewhat gullible and prone to over-excitement (see identimat 'revelation'), *claims* to have spoken to such a person. Again, this isn't proof of anything. I would love nothing more than to believe stories of alien visitation. But am I able to believe that a scientist as reputable as Edward Teller was so impressed by Bob's ability to weld WWII rocket technology to a Honda that he employed him to back-engineer alien spacecraft? No I am not.

Antimatter is not negative mass

Hey guys. Nice show. Enjoying it

Forgot to sub when I watched the last podcast. I do agree with something y'all say in the beginning that those more interested in Science are more inclined to have an interest in UFO topics. I've never really been into any crazy conspiracies/occults/hidden government type stuff. I just have always loved Sci-fi and the idea of extraterrestrial existence. That's why I enjoy Bob Lazar's claim best. I love hearing about what he has to say because he seems to view everything from a scientific standpoint. He has always stressed that he was fascinated in the Physics and his main issue was that he claims this technology exists and thats what he is concerned about.

I think it makes its own gravity bubble to move at speed of light so the operater don't get throw round or body get smashed cause anybody in the ofo would get splattered moving at the speed of light especially when it just takes off at the speed

You guys swayed me and I love how objective you two remained! Smart guys. I subbed 😊

I think your assessment of Corbell is perfect. He’s a shyster and a conman. He behaves like a used car sales man trying to put one over you by smiling and sweet talking with confidence. He behaves like a thug, trying to conceal his aggressiveness long enough to make money. I’ll never forget his debate with Stanton Friedman where he was rude, crude, crass, aggressive and totally disrespectful toward someone older than him and million times more accomplished than him. The guys lexicon is laced with words like “hey man”, “badass”, “dude”, etc. You can talk like this with your friends who are into hip-hop. You don’t hold a debate with a famous nuclear scientist using language such as this. What a clueless buffoon! He even resorted to slapping Stanton’s arm and back in a kind of condescending manner. This was physically intimidating and aggressive toward a frail old man. That’s how people like Jeremy Corbell try to prove their point- by steamrolling over people. He’s got none. I think he’s a trickster who is using Bob’s true or untrue story to make money.

50:00 The way I understood it is that the aircraft that Bob saw when he walked into the hanger was not Alien, it was one of those human built prototype's that you can see being tested in old videos (google "project 1974" for an example). Still pretty cool, but not on the same level as Alien tech would be which is why it was stored relatively casually in the entrance hanger and why it had the American flag (why the hell would they paint the American flag on an Alien ship).

I like all the points you guys make here. I agree with your point at 50:00 . The thing that occurred to me about that was; They have the most top- secret item of all time, and they leave the hangar doors open, for anyone to see? He would not have walked in through hangar doors, he would have been led through a high security protocol to see the ships.

So real talk, why has no one asked him (Bob) for paystubs, bank records, W-2, IRS records?

Watch Corbell debate Stanton Friedman who is a physicist. He’s also the Grandaddy of the UFO world but he goes a lot deeper into Bob’s education. The debate is on KZfaq

I am also skeptical. But I suppose it could make sense for Bob to bluff having some 115 in his possession as a kind of insurance.

These clowns criticizing Jeremy Corbell on his looks and they look like roadies themselves 😂 well the guy in the green shirt looks homeless 😅😅

So you guys skipped over one thing, so he claims they erased his records at los alamos but an employee found a directory, of a year that he claimed to be there, that had his name. He also took george knapp there and walked him around the place.

The "migraine" comes when they talk about element 115. The original show with George Knapp alluded that Bob stole a sample of it from the lab as insurance and physical evidence. That's what Bob and Jeremy are suggesting to be the focus of recent raid on his workplace. If it is true it would be obvious why he becomes nervous to say the least. It seems that Bob is not interested for us to know the truth but to only protect his skin and settle score with authorities for stupid things he did. What is interesting though is how his story gains weight in the context of TTSA "Tic Tac UFO" case.

Do a video about the USS Nimitz Tic-tac UFO incident. Great video guys. I’ve never believed Bob’s story, but it’s a good story to listen to now and again lol. Subscribed to your channel and I’m excited to watch your content.

What he said was that his "friend" "Barry" told him to touch this decice and it pushed his hand away...

The brothel thing happened after he supposedly left area 51

The Wilson document originally came from Edgar Mitchell.

I was looking for stuff debunking Bob Lazar years ago, yet this video didn’t show up.

Threats from very powerful people could explain a lot of the objections. Maybe he doesn't want to come forward with the Moscovium/E115 because that would be crossing the line where he and possibly other people wind up at a CIA black site, he has migraines when he tries to talk about the story because stress causes migraines, he won't name professors because he doesn't want them to be harassed... It's a lot, though. He ultimately has no evidence beyond his claim.

My problem with Bob's story is the working conditions don't sound realistic. The information we're given is the government has some piece of technology it wants broken down and reverse engineered. It has at its disposal the biggest brains from every research university in the country working in the most advanced lab in the world guarded by the single most powerful military in written history operating in such secrecy that no known laws apply to them. All of it is funded by the full weight of every NATO-block economy. And apparently after spending decades getting nowhere while on the cusp of the single biggest discovery in human existence, one that could upend everything we know about the laws of nature...these PhDs are going to put their egos aside and say "F*@k it, lets see if the new guy can figure out out. No, not the kid from MIT, the lab tech standing next to him with the jet-powered moped in the parking lot. Bob I think is his name?" If he had actually seen and touched highly-classified technology without being cleared (or cleared and then decided to talk), we never would have heard the name "Bob Lazar."

Question. Let's assume Lazar's story is legit for a minute. If I have the story right, as soon as his higher ups discovered his wife was having an affair via phone taps, they took Lazar off of the job. If he really had 115, he would have to of taken it before he lost access, correct? It seems 98% of his reasoning for "coming out" was for his own safety as he stated "if they are kicking me off the job there is no way they are going to let me go get a normal job knowing what I know". Do you really think he would be dumb enough to steal something while he was there working and not feeling threatened? What would be his motivation to steal some 115 before he lost access and felt his safety being threatened? I think that part of the story is bogus. Also, watching the documentary where he and the film maker were talking in the woods (apparently about Bob's possession of 115) it seems a lot was said before the film maker thought to turn off the phones. If I were in his position and the story was true I would probably do the same thing. I also wouldn't be dumb enough to disclose information like that with a cell phone in my pocket unless I was purposely bluffing and wanted to see if anyone was listening. If his story is legit, I don't think he stole anything as he would have no reason to before he was taken off the job. It sounds like an off the cuff claim that he made up thinking it would make for an insurance policy on his safety. If he really had it, he would have showed his friends that he took to watch the test flights......or he's a bullshit con artist master manipulator haha. What are you thoughts?

Howdy thanks for the video! Quick question: how would someone who genuinely saw these things be expected to act?

Off topic, but I thought a roadie is more a guy who helps set up the stage.

Think with me He sends 115 they study it,it has to go for some kind of approval and validation. Government shows up cover that story easily and Lazar no longer has 115 to use as protection (he must've stated that if something happens to his family or his friends he himself would show up and externalized that to the world live)

He got the charge in Nevada after his story broke. Remember George Knapp saying he was worried it was going to be used to discredit the story or something like that (if I recall)

I'm guessing that area S4 was used for whatever misinformation and counter intelligence campaign they were working on at that time. Area S5 I believe was used for filming scenes used for broadcast during the moon landing missions.

He doesn’t come out with 115 because he would immediately be arrested... plus cause mass historia once confirmed.

Never seen this podcast. The tin foil hats are genius. Those alone earned my sub.

Having element 115 doesn't percee know that you can or want to proof it to others. We don't know exactly what it is, does or can do. So sending it to a lab or universiteit to prove that you have it in isotope state might be not such a good idea.

Maybe it's not so easy concerning the mass spectroscopy since if he'd do that it would prove that he stole that material and he'd go to jail...it would make sense that he's unwilling to make that sacrifice since he has a stable relationship and so on and so forth

I only have an undergrad in engineering, but the biggest red flag for me (while watching Rogan) was how elementary Lazar's explanation of the physics behind this alleged equipment function was. It didn't sound like a graduate or post graduate level of understanding.

How do you guys know that we arent able to detect those gravity waves here on earth? Im honestly just asking. Is there some kind of registry or list that shows what they have detected? Maybe it has been detected on earth but not published ...? Kind of conspiratorial i know... But its an honest question. #Eigenbros

I saw the inteview they did with Edward Teller, it was going well tell one of them mentioned Bob Lazar, he then became argumentative, and uncooperative , he then terminated the interview, he's reaction did it for me, you could tell he knew Bob, he was a scared man.😮

You guys could not say it better . Thank you !!! When I was a kid a belived Lazar . But I grew up 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The only logical analysis I've come across. Obsessed with your channel!

Lazar has more to do with idiot detection than with UAPs.

Its not a gravity wave. A gravity well is created in "front" of the craft. The craft then "falls" into that gravity well. In the vacuum of space, you can understand how quickly this craft could accelerate.

A compelling argument regarding this element 115. If he does have it, let it be confirmed!

these guys need more subscribers. I am now one :)

This sounds alot like Project Bear Claw. Most of the mentions of it were redacted in the Coffee Mug Memo.

"I wish we were friends with Joe Rogan." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ha

The government would not try do discredit him or make his records disappear. That seems like an odd way to go about it for the government. It would be easier to just make Bob disappear, problem solved. However more likely he would served with cease and desist orders or flat out arrested/sued for breach of contract. I am quite sure he signed NDI paperwork before working there. If the government was really worried about it he would be in prison or have an "accident".

57:37 - That tin foil hat hand-off is the most alien thing about this podcast.

My spelling sucks think that's why it makes its own gravity so the operater dont get splattered moving at those speeds

Like I said...Mr. Bob Lazar Has Always Told The Truth....👍👍👽

Uh, uh, uum uh. How do you do a podcast and it takes you 8 minutes to form a sentence?

Interesting.

Came here after the Joe Rogan episode and agree with a lot of what you guys say. Interesting to see physicists talking about this and not just another neck beard on the internet. Im still in the "i have no idea" camp though. He just doesn't come across as a bullshitter. He seems genuinely bothered by being in the spotlight. And lets say he did have 115, realistically how easy would it be to get it to someone else, assuming he is under the level of surveillance we seen in the documentary. They literally mention it and the next day he was raided by FBI. But then the holes you guys find are also where I call bullshit too! Who knows man, its crazy to think about isnt it!

I not to smart but I think they don't have to make gravity or gravity well just have to control the one gravity then maybe just extend it to get moving fast ... Make ya think that's for sure

115 retinal and finger print readers where not around when he did his first interview

I think you guys did a fantastic job being fair enough to Lazar’s claims and treating them seriously and not just going “LEL THATZ DUMB SUCK A GREEN DICK” (there is actually a video of this elsewhere on the tube of someone freaking out on Rogan for just getting Lazar on). I think you both did a good job of presenting the arguments fairly, not straw manning, and then showing where you think the strengths and weaknesses are. I’m skeptical myself, but am yet to hear something which establishes enough doubt for me to be able to dismiss it.

Great podcast. I'll go the Criminal Psychology route and say he was a disgruntled employee that got fired over his wife's affair. Then he tried to get revenge dumping some things he heard on what he thought was just a small time public access TV show in Vegas and, it spiraled out of control. I doubt he was more than some low level electrical engineer but some of what he says was corroborated by Grusch's leakers 30 years later.

Aint no Aliens from a galaxy far away

They forget to write a lot of stuff down for smart guys, not to mention in a podcast trying to debunk someone.

Thank you for this episode. Finally, someone who explained how we could measure his alleged isotope in case it actually existed in the form he claims to be. Other than that, he’s full of BS. There’s also a great detailed post about him on Reddit, why he isn’t credible at all. I’ll link to it at the end of my comment. Nevertheless, I have a hypothetical question for you: Somewhere in some old documents, he claims that the frequency of the gravitational wave pulses at 7,46 Hz at a one micrometer wavelength. ATM I cannot access the document where I got these numbers. A while ago, I read about some possible future events for measuring gravitational waves out in space which was planned to happen in 2025 or something along these lines. Due to the characteristics of gravitational waves the LIGO detectors are not precise (enough yet). However, once that experiment or some other kinds finally reveals us the frequency and wavelength and that turns out to be what Lazar claimed; what would you make of that? Would you still say he’s full of it? All his credibility issues aside, this one seems like the only (scientific) way to check his story besides his alleged Element 115. Maybe he got these numbers from John Lear too, but what would be the chance that out of billions of numbers this one is actually right? In case it turns out to be valid at some point, the story is gonna get a whole new meaning and one should reevaluate what has been stated … and if not then nothing has changed, as we know now it’s made up. Would love to hear your take on this! new.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/oyxuok/bob_lazars_story_is_it_believable_here_is_some_of/

The Corbell clip towards the start... Staring Joe in the eye to make sure he's fooling him, looking down every time Joe questions him, enraged that his story is questioned

Element 115 makes 116 isotopes for a second Get the science right 👍

"Gravity waves, what field would that be?? Astronomy?" LOL I dont think you guys are qualified to even hear Bobs story.

Really cool podcast guys! It's so refreshing to hear someone bring up the fact that Bob never mentions the stable isotope of Element 115 he worked with. I'm a undergraduate engineering student and even with the basic chemistry and physics I've learned so far that was my first question when I heard him talking about this mysterious element. I thought it was cool that you guys even took the time to outline the methodology you could use to determine the isotope of a sample element. Wouldn't this have been something that Bob's group should have worked on? I don't know much about advanced propulsion research but determining the chemical properties of any machine's fuel source should be one of the first steps in understanding how it works and if there are any glaring constraints.

I’m no physicist, so maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t see how his claims about 115 are compelling in any way. So he picked a number that was undiscovered at the time? What else would you do if you were making shit up? He probably should have gone a little higher though, because it seems more like the synthesizing of 115 later does more to discredit his claims, than it does to support them. The biggest problem I have with his story is that not only has he not allowed anyone credible to study the 115 he supposedly lifted, he seemingly hasn’t contributed a single interesting bit of useful information to the scientific community at all. That’s kind of odd, considering he’s so special that he was handpicked to be part of a small team tasked with reverse engineering alien spacecraft. Doesn’t he ever grow frustrated having to explain this stuff to non scientists like myself, and Joe Rogan? Why hasn’t he ever made any effort to reach out to the only people he can actually effectively explain any of the more technical aspects of his story to? The only people who could help validate his claims? And to the people who suggest that he’s not interested in publicity, validation, or attention, I call bs. He’s been at it for 30 years. Nothing to gain, some people say. Well, if we assume that someone has the type of psychology that would cause them to engage in a hoax like this, it’s just silly to consider what their motivations are as if they were a fully rational person. Crazy doesn’t have to make sense. Besides that, there are plenty of examples of people doing crazy shit for fame and attention. That’s like 90% of what the internet is.

What gets to me is the simple fact of what is going on now is implausible. Listen and look at Lazar naming off the names of what would still be very classified weapons projects...on a fucking radio talk show. That alone proves by default it is a load of bullshit. He would not be allowed to continue to do that. What message would allowing him to do such send to everyone else who works on such classified material? Why not go fucking Hollywood with it? Lazar has been doing it for years...standing up in front of people and claiming to be debriefing them on what would be secret material of the highest classification. The Feds dont give a shit because there is nothing to it and there is no crime they can charge him with being he is just lying. The time the FBI raiding him had to do with hazardous materials he was selling in the mail...not anything he "took from the test site".

Terence looks like a black hebrew israelite astronaut lol

Who cares if he's lying or telling the truth. Nothing in your life will ever change.

Why would he lie all these years? What about all these highly credentialed people coming out with very similar stories? How could he have known what he knew in 1989 without direct exposure to it?

I believe him as well. I would bet my life on it!

Element 115 was discussed in a a scientific journal 2 days before Bob made his initial disclosure.

Maybe focus on the stuff that's come true since,the craft that that rotation to its side,

Love the podcast guys. I do have the sense Mr. Lazar is being truthful. BTW, Joey Guzman is my son and I would have sworn in a court of law that Juan was Joey. Bizzaro world.

If Bob were to do what these guys ask, it would be a death sentence

Dude on right looks like a Hershey’s kiss

Bob said in 1989 that the Ufo flew sideways with the belly pointing forward so it could distort gravity and fill the gap.. The UFOs that came out on the military realeases a few years back appear to do exactly what he said 25 years earlier.. That would be a point in his favor..

Nuclear? No it’s electrical I need something to generate 1.21gigawatts of electricity ⚡️

Maybe Giza produced 115

I love you guys, thanks for the ultimate conclusion on Lazar, but you yield way too much along the way. (Edit to insert that Lazar may not have been talking about Moscovium, element 115, just something with the name "element 115.") Have you run a half life calculation on the 500lbs of Moscovium (Symbol:Mc, element 115) that Lazar claimed he had? You got the half life right, 0.65 seconds. But everything after that discussing how Lazar could prove what he had? Well consider this: 500lbs is approx 250 kg, so divide that in grams by the molecular weight 290g/mol to convert to N, the number of moles of Mc, N=862. Let's round up to N=1000 moles. Plugging that into the half life calculator to see how much is left after one day, or 86,000 seconds or ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO THOUSAND half lives .. it's effectively ZERO, after just one day. Lazard's claim is absurd on the face of it.... but that's not even as obvious a lie as the OTHER thing that powers his 'gravity' propulsion... anti-matter. Oh sure anti-matter is real, but so far there has been some tiny tiny TINY fraction of a gram produced by the worlds leading researcher.

What people are failing to realize is that to discover that something is totally real when all your life you thought is was fiction will have people try to block out the possibility of it being real due to their fears

I don't know about Bob, it's still something I debate back and forth. I think he believes he is telling the truth. So the most likely thing is that the government brought him in and basically gave him a ton of disinformation and set him to go out and tell the story so that they could cover projects they are working on. He could be just telling the truth. But I'm so skeptical I still tend to lean that he made it up back then but is very smart and obviously works as a scientist to this day. It's not an easy one to crack, I agree with that. The video from Commander Favor's experience where he validates some of the things Bob said 30+ years ago one being that the craft roll over on their side before engaging high speed mode. Feel free to look up the gimble video and witness it yourself. I've also had migraines for years and I'm in a technical field and they don't help me concentrate. But ones I'm in the grove I can hold onto the thoughts even though they are very painful. I ended up getting botox treatments and it's helped quite a lot.

what about the FBI searching bob lazar house ?

My hypothesis. He was thought these physics things, it really fees someone with no background on physics but with a good script.

Bob has no need to lie, he has never made money from this, that’s not to say he might not be now but, Bob has always said, he doesn’t care if anybody believes him or not!!

No lost everything. And keeps steady. Haters can disappear..

Jeremy is a film hustler and good talker but that's it.

There should be some consequences for people who lie about this.

Lol, you keep saying Bob worked at Area 51. He worked at S4.

If America caught up with the Germans, why did they steal all the scientists? 😂😂😂

He's lying through his teeth...never seen someone more unconvincing

I am not smart enough for this show. But I am quite certain that Bob Lazar is lying about his master's degrees from MIT & Caltech, and that means that he has a prospensity to make himself appear grander than he actually is. Perhaps he was a type of Lab tech or something at Los Alamos & "S4", but I seriously doubt if he actually saw or worked on the projects that he described. Perhaps he is speculating on things that he surmised from conversations with coworkers and using that speculation as the basis for his outrageous story.

I appreciate you trying to break down this discussion, but there are a number of facts and names that you got wrong. Good talk regardless.

2people with 9th grade physics education.

that's a lie, bob once said he was into ufos and read a book on ufos

You know how sociopathic this man would actually have to be if this is all a lie…..

I somehow jumped into a jeremy corbell rant, I'm out.

Lazar speaks truth.

I love these titles, especially because I loved the late James Randi. He made a career out of being a magician and then debunking psychic mediums and frauds. I love all this stuff. You only need to scratch the surface of research to know that these people are bullshit artists. It scares me that thousands of people that believe all this crap, not just Bob Lazar, but all the psychic medium paranormal investigator uphologist all these ridiculous people. I have to admit though they're more entertaining than the idiots that they believe

bobs followers are zealous and will try to come up with a new excuse for everything. i think bob comes off as a normal polite guy. but its so weird to see people getting so defensive when any of of their ideas are held to smallest amount of scrutiny becuase they cannot provde any results. it seems so obvious that they just WANT these things to be true because its fun and exciting, and it is. but there is just nothing of substance on their side. no issue with them just talking about it for fun but when they start defending things and coming of with excuses, i feel like thats too far