i made that video just when I decided to stop 8 rings haha that's why i made it in fact. notice how theres no 3 finger spinning in it, its cos i never learnt that really x). but now im starting batons, so i'm guessing 8rings'll come naturally. i only intend to learn clean basics though i'm quite done with learning new movements in general. like i have so much on my hands already (literally also), i just wanna know what I know, stop living for the moment when i'll know that one or that. it got to the point where i got annoyed when i find out a pattern that would look good haha. on the other hand, oh my god the joy of finding an idea that takes 0 seconds to learn, just a funny simple trick or mind game instantly added to your repertoire. those are often the best looking anyway.wow long message, so to answer your question: next 8ring vid will be in a while, with situations, mecanisms etc. no new techniques like stall points or i dunno what hope to see ya soon man! cant wait! will you be in ireland?